Male genital jewlry ( Rings) [Archive]

David77

09-21-2005, 01:28 PM

Listed below, is a post I have previously made expressing my opinion.

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I very much dislike genital piercing, which to me is genital mutilation. I think revealing this unfortunate practice in naturist magazines would give a very bad impression to many persons, and would give suggestible persons an unfortunate idea to "mutilate" themselves.

I can tolerate casually seeing nipple piercing, eventhough, to me, it seems like a desecration and some mutilation of one's glorious, wonderful, even sacred body.

Seeing some miniture "barbells" sticking through these piercings, to me, is very unaesthetic (ugly), also.

I never liked seeing piercing in pictures of primitive tribes, and never in my wildest imagination, did I think that our culture would take up this primitive mutilation.

I hope primitive scarification does not become popular too.

I think that the very worst practice is displaying a metal piece in a piercing in the penis. Gross! Disrespectful of the body!

Sometimes I wonder if someone is trying to punish themselves (like flagulation) by abusing their body (penis). Maybe the Prince Albert penis wearers may not be the new acetic, self defacing persons, (like wearing sack cloth and ashes, or flagulating one's self) but may be gross "showoffs" and those bucking society.

Surely let the natural body radiate nude, in all it's glory, without all the defacing hardware or permanent ink on the body.

If one of our art models has hardware sticking out of his/her body (including through the female "genital hood") I feel like walking out and returning some other day when a completely natural looking model is there.

I would hope that most of us revere the body and would not want it altered unnecessarily.

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If a person wants to actually adorn the body, here are some "non-invasive" suggestions from what I have observed at resorts.

A male can put a (non-binding) gold band around his penis. (Guys, sorry, your old, unused wedding band will probably not fit on your penis. I suppose that you could take it to the jewelers and get the wedding band enlarged - and hope that the jeweler does not ask you to try it on).

A female can put removable gold bands (gold rings) around her nipples.

She can wear two or three jewels hanging on a short chain from her navel, if she knows of a non-invasive method to keep it attached to her navel.

She can wear a delicate ankle chain bracelet.

She can wear the somewhat popular larger gold link waist band.

Of course, anyone can wear a nice neckless,

and a fancy waterproof watch.

A narrow watchband could second as a woman's charm bracelet if some dangling (naturist) "charms" were affixed to it.

A non-permanent coloring can be used, if you must have temporary color.

This all said, l will certainly accept and honor anyone regardless of piercings, tatoos, etc.

namedun

09-21-2005, 01:54 PM

I don't care so much about "mutilation" in the social-disgust sort of sense, but I don't know why anyone would want to damage that apendige. Personally, I like having as much feeling as possible from there.

rascal56

09-21-2005, 02:02 PM

The topic was geared more towards rings that slip on or off. Not (Ouch) Piercings.

Croydon

09-21-2005, 02:21 PM

**** rings are not rings you put in your penis or rings you see on those who have genital piercings.

**** rings come in so many forms. Chrome, leather, rubber. Primarily, they are used to sustain erection but have seen many use it as jewlry. They can be as cheap as 5$ or as expensive as 100$.

For leather and rubber rings simply wrap the strap, if leather, around the penis and balls and snap. Chromes are steel and simply just slide around balls and penis.

KirkOntario

09-21-2005, 03:35 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rascal56:
Just wondering as I was visiting another sight and read about male c*** rings. who wears them,Why and what kind of material.
Just a thought
Rascal. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

On a nude beach? Gays. Why? To attract attention. Why? Do you have to ask? It's not appropriate, akin to pulling out a vibrator in public. They are used to prolong sexual pleasure. They have no business in a nudist environment.

NudePete

09-21-2005, 04:07 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KirkOntario:
On a nude beach? <snip> Why? To attract attention. Why? Do you have to ask? It's not appropriate, akin to pulling out a vibrator in public. They are used to prolong sexual pleasure. They have no business in a nudist environment. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Agree 100%

However, people do wear them in (nude) public places. It is sending mixed messages to newbees who happen to be there at the same time. I hope and wish this fashon fad would quickly run it's course.
(25Sep2005 - edited quote slightly to clarify 100% support.)

need2Bnude

09-21-2005, 04:22 PM

I agree as well; Why wear a ring like that to a nude beach. Yes it will send a mixed message to newbies, and thats not good, what are we then encouraging the message of perversion? I have seen many with chrome c*** rings, O.k but what for? Thank God I haven't seen any leather or other than chrome out there, but I would think they are present at other beaches.
This is something I would'nt do or encourage for the mixed message it sends. Nudists have a difficult enough time just being accepted as nudists, adding jewelry can only hurt the way we are viewed.<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by NudePete:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KirkOntario:
On a nude beach? Gays. Why? To attract attention. Why? Do you have to ask? It's not appropriate, akin to pulling out a vibrator in public. They are used to prolong sexual pleasure. They have no business in a nudist environment. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Agree 100%

However, people do wear them in (nude) public places. It is sending mixed messages to newbees who happen to be there at the same time. I hope and wish this fashon fad would quickly run it's course. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Michjoe

09-21-2005, 04:38 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">are we then encouraging the message of perversion? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
No mixed message there.

Unwired

09-21-2005, 04:40 PM

When you speak of 'perversion', what exactly are you referring to?

GhostFreeHiker

09-21-2005, 04:51 PM

Yeah, remember to most of the world we as naturist/nudist are the perverts.

I do not have any piercings but I to shave and trim. It is less about drawing attention to my groin and more about my own personal body self-image. Piercings, hair styles and coloring, shaving/trimming, ear rings, painted finger nails, glasses/contacts, etc...they are just different ways for one person to live up to their own personal self-image.

Just because it is different does not mean it is wrong.

Croydon

09-21-2005, 04:59 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KirkOntario:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rascal56:
Just wondering as I was visiting another sight and read about male c*** rings. who wears them,Why and what kind of material.
Just a thought
Rascal. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

On a nude beach? Gays. Why? To attract attention. Why? Do you have to ask? It's not appropriate, akin to pulling out a vibrator in public. They are used to prolong sexual pleasure. They have no business in a nudist environment. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
EXCUSE ME? EXCUSE ME?

How did you come to conclusion that it is gays who wear the ring? It is so easy to point fingers at gays isn't it? Let's blame gays for everything huh? Katrina, 9/11, or may even the school masacre that occured in Russia last year.

Your statement is truly ignorant. You are overgeneralizing. Are you sire you are not related to MikeJB?

Post like this is reason why I left INA for months and contribute very little to this forum.

FYI, there are many uses to these rings and furthermore, I have seen MANY stra8 men wear them.

KirkOntario

09-21-2005, 05:09 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Croydon:
How did you come to conclusion that it is gays who wear the ring? It is so easy to point fingers at gays isn't it? FYI, there are many uses to these rings and furthermore, I have seen MANY stra8 men wear them. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Many uses to these rings? I guess you think it appropriate to wear them. I don't. It gives the wrong impression and families with children attend these beaches. The nude beaches I have been to have a gay section as is common. This is where you see them worn. These rings are common in that community.

Unwired

09-21-2005, 05:43 PM

Kirk: consider yourself on strike 2. Make one more statement about gay culture or sexuality and you will be banned from this forum until further notice.

DeathKnight

09-21-2005, 05:47 PM

I don't like genital piercing. Something about it is unappealing to me.

Journeyman

09-21-2005, 05:47 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KirkOntario:
Many uses to these rings? I guess you think it appropriate to wear them. I don't. It gives the wrong impression and families with children attend these beaches. The nude beaches I have been to have a gay section as is common. This is where you see them worn. These rings are common in that community. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It's pretty amazing that a presumably heterosexual naturist (above) has spent so much time in the gay sections of naturist beaches, worldwide, that he can make a blanket statement about what is common in a "community".

Funny that in all the nude beaches I have visited in 10 years -- on 4 continents and with gay and straight areas -- I still haven't seen one. I guess I wasn't looking closely enough. http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

DoctorSurferDude

09-21-2005, 06:08 PM

Peircings always come with the risk of infection....for more reasons that just that, I don't think a toothpick in the sausage is for me, although that one reason would suffice.

Also...I always wondered about increases in urinary tract infections, STD's and unwanted pregnancies...the concept of condoms kind of goes out the window when you introduce a metal object into the mix.

Another thought....it is a bit of a luxury of this antibiotic era. I'll stand corrected if I mis-speak, but does anybody know of any old tribes or cultures that practiced a mid-meatus penile peircing? (through the pee tube)

Anyways....I think it's ok to question, but it's NOT OK to pass judgement or group together individuals and make generalizations. Social acceptability is a dictatorship that keeps a lot of us in the closet and afraid to speak openly about nudism....it's a bit unfair of us if we are playing the same game, isn't it? We don't forbid nudists to arrive at a resort in a shiny red Ferarri, or to decorate their bodies with tattoos, or shave for that matter. So why should we come down so hard on people who made a choice to peirce the "softer side of sears"?

Then again.....there needs to be balance and discretion. Indeed this particular peircing is a bit "attention oriented" which is the job of most peircings, except these are drawing attention to the genitals....it's just what they do. SOoooo, I think it's very important for the people who are peirced to consider the environment that they are in. Somebody mentioned that there are many shapes and sizes and colors of rings/studs to use. Why not choose the least flashy of them all? Choose something small, not flashy, maybe not even shiny...something easily missed. Until there is universal acceptance of genital peircing as an unassuming option, it would be wise for those who have this done to be discreet in their display of IT.

Boreas

09-21-2005, 06:24 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Journeyman:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KirkOntario:
Many uses to these rings? I guess you think it appropriate to wear them. I don't. It gives the wrong impression and families with children attend these beaches. The nude beaches I have been to have a gay section as is common. This is where you see them worn. These rings are common in that community. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It's pretty amazing that a presumably heterosexual naturist (above) has spent so much time in the gay sections of naturist beaches, worldwide, that he can make a blanket statement about what is common in a "community".

Funny that in all the nude beaches I have visited in 10 years -- on 4 continents and with gay and straight areas -- I still haven't seen one. I guess I wasn't looking closely enough. http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hmmmm suspicious isn't it. Thank you for being so articulate!

09-21-2005, 06:43 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DoctorSurferDude:

Then again.....there needs to be balance and discretion. Indeed this particular peircing is a bit "attention oriented" which is the job of most peircings, except these are drawing attention to the genitals....it's just what they do. SOoooo, I think it's very important for the people who are peirced to consider the environment that they are in. Somebody mentioned that there are many shapes and sizes and colors of rings/studs to use. Why not choose the least flashy of them all? Choose something small, not flashy, maybe not even shiny...something easily missed. Until there is universal acceptance of genital peircing as an unassuming option, it would be wise for those who have this done to be discreet in their display of IT. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

What is wrong with drawing attention to it? Should we ban earrings so we don't draw attention to ears? Don't you think tatoos draw your eye to them?

It's just another body part, so what, it's got a ring in it.

Dustin S

09-21-2005, 06:50 PM

Question: What exactly is it that gets pierced? I'm guessing at the base where the penis meets the sack?

PaulC

09-21-2005, 07:04 PM

Trailscout

09-21-2005, 07:14 PM

Kirk's comment's on the rings don't seem to be unfair to anyone, nor was he out of line to say that as a casual observer, he saw this device on a certain segment of the population.

These rings are vulgar and should be banned. Anything that provides a constant erection is probably illegal already.

Unwired

09-21-2005, 07:25 PM

Kirk's comments are merely the latest in a series of sweeping generalizations he has made regarding the gay community. That's no longer going to fly here.

This thread is about genital rings. If you like them, fine. If you dislike them, fine. Leave sexual orientation out of it.

Trailscout

09-21-2005, 07:29 PM

If generalizations weren't so dusty, maybe people like Kirk wouldn't be tempted to sweep them!

Trailscout

09-21-2005, 07:34 PM

As for the penis rings, they are not necessarily very noticeable in themselves. The problem seems to be that the wearer is likely to have a sustained erection on a public beach and regardless of the cause (masturbation or a penis ring) erections are unwelcome in nudist settings and certainly any other public place.

And as I said, public erections are illegal in many areas.

DoctorSurferDude

09-21-2005, 07:35 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Cyndiannaked:

What is wrong with drawing attention to it? Should we ban earrings so we don't draw attention to ears? Don't you think tatoos draw your eye to them?

It's just another body part, so what, it's got a ring in it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Did you miss the part about "discretion" and a lack of "universal acceptance"?

I mean...your logic is sound, but I think you missed the point I was trying to make. You can't force people to accept something they aren't ready for....and the response to this topic seems to indicate that most people are not ready for it quite yet. So my advice is to lay low and be subtle with it....time will breed acceptance.

Remember when belly button peircings were "taboo"? And shaving genitals was considered obscene?

Patience. Discretion.

09-21-2005, 08:09 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DoctorSurferDude:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Cyndiannaked:

What is wrong with drawing attention to it? Should we ban earrings so we don't draw attention to ears? Don't you think tatoos draw your eye to them?

It's just another body part, so what, it's got a ring in it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Did you miss the part about "discretion" and a lack of "universal acceptance"?

I mean...your logic is sound, but I think you missed the point I was trying to make. You can't force people to accept something they aren't ready for....and the response to this topic seems to indicate that most people are not ready for it quite yet. So my advice is to lay low and be subtle with it....time will breed acceptance.

Remember when belly button peircings were "taboo"? And shaving genitals was considered obscene?

Patience. Discretion. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You can't force people to accept nudism either but it doesn't stop us from hitting Haulover on a weekend.

Tonight I was at work and waited on a couple who had a lot of face piercings. It was not discrete at all, it was right "in your face" (LOL). He even had a huge half ring through his nose. I thought about how it's really no big deal anymore seeing facial piercings. You know why? Because the more you see them the less they seem out of the ordinary. After awhile it's just mainstream. How ready do you think the general public was to see an eyebrow piercing? Or hot pink hair?

It's the same with genital piercing. Some people might be uncomfortable a little the first time they see it. Most won't care. The more you see them the less they seem out of the ordinary. That is how you get universal acceptance, not by preventing them from being seen, not by outlawing them.

However, what I asked was why you feel it's wrong to draw attention to a penis. I didn't specify how that had to happen.

rascal56

09-21-2005, 10:37 PM

Yikes!!
Nice for eveyone to respond.BUT!!! I never mentioned or meant piercings or sexual preferences. On Netnude the forums had a string regarding rings for esthetic or decoration. There was talk of types,material and when they were worn. I don't wear one but I have seen them at Playalinda ( rare).I was curious if any in this group did.

Sauna

09-22-2005, 02:39 AM

I visited a German spa and there were all genital piercings banned for hygienical reasons. Entire spa was nudist area.

Jeff Brooks

09-22-2005, 03:21 AM

I am not into it but a buddy told me that while he was working and clothed. He is a salesman. That while he was waiting for the owner of a salon to get free while standing in the lobby he heard something ting and go rolling across the floor. It seems his genital ring had fallen off fell down his pants leg. He said he was sooooooooo embrassed but nobody knew the wiser. I thought they fit tighter than that?

J

Croydon

09-22-2005, 03:35 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Trailscout:
Kirk's comment's on the rings don't seem to be unfair to anyone, nor was he out of line to say that as a casual observer, he saw this device on a certain segment of the population.

These rings are vulgar and should be banned. Anything that provides a constant erection is probably illegal already. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

OF COURSE you do not think Kirk's comment is out of line/unfair. I would be SHOCKED if you did, even more shocked if you had an ounce of openness in your body.

OF COURSE you do not find Kirk's comment unfair, after all, you are Pat Robertson's son once removed.

Croydon

09-22-2005, 03:37 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Unwired:
Kirk: consider yourself on strike 2. Make one more statement about gay culture or sexuality and you will be banned from this forum until further notice. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Let's just skip the strikes and ban the fool. Saves us the trouble

nudenwv

09-22-2005, 03:50 AM

well guys and gals i do have a ring and wear it often. it is made of silicon and streches so it's easy to put on. these have been used as a device for the male if he had erection problems. although i have no problem i wear it for personal look only. i don't wear it when visiting lodges as some don't allow it. the smoothness of my skin allows easy on and off - no pulling hairs. i personally think they look nice just as other jewerly does.

09-22-2005, 04:31 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by need2Bnude:
I agree as well; Why wear a ring like that to a nude beach. Yes it will send a mixed message to newbies, and thats not good, what are we then encouraging the message of perversion? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

A mixed message about what? That some people like to wear jewelry?

What is a perversion? The only time I see that used is by someone who doesn't understand sexuality and feel that anything outside of basic missionary sex by male and female is wrong. It is such a bigotted term!

09-22-2005, 04:37 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by keith bricker:
well guys and gals i do have a ring and wear it often. it is made of silicon and streches so it's easy to put on. these have been used as a device for the male if he had erection problems. although i have no problem i wear it for personal look only. i don't wear it when visiting lodges as some don't allow it. the smoothness of my skin allows easy on and off - no pulling hairs. i personally think they look nice just as other jewerly does. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Good for you keith! It's just jewelry people!

Naked_Justin

09-22-2005, 04:40 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jeff Brooks:
I am not into it but a buddy told me that while he was working and clothed. He is a salesman. That while he was waiting for the owner of a salon to get free while standing in the lobby he heard something ting and go rolling across the floor. It seems his genital ring had fallen off fell down his pants leg. He said he was sooooooooo embrassed but nobody knew the wiser. I thought they fit tighter than that?

J </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

This isn't true for every man, but for me, the "relaxedness" of my penis and testicles varies wildly from hour to hour or even minute to minute.
The scrotum can hang low, or pull up very tight.
No ring for either the penis alone, or the penis and testicles together, can "handle" both extremes.
Therefore, one tight enough to never fall off, would be tremendously painful as circumstances change.

Also, for the more well endowed men, whose penis and testicles always hang low, they could wear a full c**kring and have it be less noticeable than those of us with smaller equipment.
Guys of "tighter" structure will have their equipment pulled up causing parts to point out.
Loose guys can wear them without the same protruding effect.

Also, there are rings made out of pretty much anything you can imagine, including clear acrylic. It's the same for piercings.
Obviously, they would be less...obvious.

Are rings and piercings used to accentuate the genitals?
Sure.
But, then again, so are rings for fingers and toes; bracelets, anklets, and necklaces; and ear, nose, lip, and eyebrow piercings.

That doesn't make it inherently wrong, or right. It just makes them a fact of life.

Were my genitals more acceptable to wearing such rings, would I? I don't know.

Do I have any interest in getting any part of my body pierced?
No.

Justin

PascoDoug

09-22-2005, 07:38 AM

I have nothing against piercings tho I would never want one myself. I really do believe that individuals should be free to adorn their bodies however they see fit.

However I also believe that private business, nudist resorts, etc should be free to set whatever limitations (except racist, etc) they deem appropriate on those who wish to enter their premises. Some restaurants require a suit and tie to be let in. Some businesses have a sign that reads "No shirt, no shoes, no service".

And if you come in my home, you will not be allowed to smoke.

The concept is the same.

Atlanta Runner

09-22-2005, 10:44 AM

Does anyone know from an anthropology or archiologically sense the history of these types of things. My limited education in this area has lead me to think that people have adorned their bodies with jewlery, tattoos and piercings since very early on and that this is not any sort of recent fad or trend.

I am not arguing any position one way or another but I think people need to consider that fact too before they dispell it as revolting or some sort of fad.

David77

09-22-2005, 05:58 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Does anyone know from an anthropology or archiologically sense the history of these types of things. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

How about these examples of body modifications, thinking that it made them more attractive;

1. Some women in some tribes put successive rings around their neck to make their neck longer.
2. Some put blocks in their lips and/or ears to enlarge them.
3. Chinese women bound their feet to make them smaller.
4. Tribal men put long "cones" on their penis to look longer.
5. Scarification (making scars by cutting) of the skin.
6. Some American Indians tied a board on the back of their babies head to make their head grow more to a point.
7. We all know about the "hour glass look" that our great grandmothers aspired to, by wearing a corset and pulling it as tight in the middle as possible, to make their waist-line smaller and look more feminine.
8. Rather tight pants of the men during the middle ages were equipped with a "cod piece" at their genital area which they stuffed with straw to make their genital bulge larger.
9. Women wore bustles to make their rear end larger.
10. Later, women wore girdles to make their hips and butt look smaller.
11. Shoulder pads were sewn inside mens jackets to make their shoulders look more masculine.
12. Women had the padded bra and the "uplift bra" to make their breasts more prominent.
13. Women in the "roaring twenties" wore sheath dresses to flatten out thier curves, to get the boyish look.
14. Lipstick is put on the lips and rouge is put on the cheeks to simulate fertile women in a sexual state of being, so some anthropologists believe.(This latter is open more to question).
15. Women wear high heals to make their legs look longer, sexier.
16. Maybe the most profound body modification is the "gender reassignment" operation (sex change operation) but this is not for purposes of beautification but for very personal, psychological satisfaction.

Now we have gone back to piercing! How unnatural of we Naturists.

Thankfully the healthy look of a well exercised body is, sort of, in fashion now.

Dolby

09-22-2005, 07:57 PM

Cyndiannaked,

While facial piercings are more common, I'm not so sure they're accepted everywhere. Show up at most job interviews with a facial piercing and you can forget about getting the job. Also, many places ban facial piercings in their professional dress codes.

PascoDoug

09-22-2005, 08:16 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Dolby:
Cyndiannaked,While facial piercings are more common, I'm not so sure they're accepted everywhere. Show up at most job interviews with a facial piercing and you can forget about getting the job. Also, many places ban facial piercings in their professional dress codes. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

"And the sign said 'long-haired freaky people need not apply.' So I tucked my hair up under my hat and I went in to ask him why.."

"He said, 'you look like a fine upstanding young man, I think that you will do!'"

"So I took off my hat, and said imagine that, huh? Me working for you!"

Oh the times, they are a changin' http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Duneman

09-23-2005, 01:47 AM

Why are just males singled out on this topic?

I really don't understand all the mixed feelings on this topic. While I wouldn't do many of the things I've seen to my body, I think it's great how some people express themselves by way of body decorations etc.

A male nudist friend of mine thinks that guys shaving their pubic area is perverted, yet his wife is shaved, and my friend even shaves his head!
Are we supposed to set up some rules that nudists have to follow, what they can and cannot do to their bodies?
Who are we to say that genital jewelery isn't acceptable?

As long as individuals behave appropriately then just enjoy, and be shocked sometimes! It's all part of the human mix isn't it?

Duneman

09-23-2005, 02:03 AM

Trailscout

09-23-2005, 03:46 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Atlanta Runner:
Does anyone know from an anthropology or archiologically sense the history of these types of things. My limited education in this area has lead me to think that people have adorned their bodies with jewlery, tattoos and piercings since very early on and that this is not any sort of recent fad or trend.

I am not arguing any position one way or another but I think people need to consider that fact too before they dispell it as revolting or some sort of fad. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Humans have worn clothing for thousands of years for decorative purposes.

Then along came a movement that said that the nude human body is good and beautiful with nothing on it. For the better part of a century, nudists have lived out that creed and the photo evidence is there to prove it.

One other community has placed total unadorned nudity on a pedestel: the artistic community. Since the time of the ancient Greeks, the nude human form has been seen as the ideal.

For this reason, many nudists continue to urge others to affirm the goodness of the body without clothing, untouched by tattoos, unscarred, and not punctured with metal decorations. Those of us who feel this way, naturally do not pierce, tattoo, scar or clothe our bodies, after all they are at their best with nothing added!

BackpackerBrian

09-23-2005, 05:45 AM

Very interesting posts you all have here. I belive this post started out talking about C***rings, and then we added the piercing subject too.

As far as piercings go, I am not for banning them from the clubs/camps. I have met many really nice males and females with genital piercings. I do however think that the jewelry is there to make the genitals more noticeable and draw attention to them. Personally I don't think that's what nudism is about. But to each his/her own. I'd hope they would lkearn to use discretion over time.

As far as c***rings go, that's even a touchier subject, as far as I am concerned. These rings were created to keep blood in the penis, and to enhance sexual pleasure. A guy wearing a ring at a club or beach is absoultely unacceptable.

I'd like to hope that at our beaches and clubs we will promote an atmosphere that encourages BALANCE and focuses on people, not their genitals.

David77

09-23-2005, 06:30 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BackpackerBrian:
As far as c***rings go, that's even a touchier subject, as far as I am concerned. These rings were created to keep blood in the penis, and to enhance sexual pleasure. A guy wearing a ring at a club or beach is absoultely unacceptable.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well stated. I agree.

09-23-2005, 08:57 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BackpackerBrian:

As far as piercings go, I am not for banning them from the clubs/camps. I have met many really nice males and females with genital piercings. I do however think that the jewelry is there to make the genitals more noticeable and draw attention to them. Personally I don't think that's what nudism is about. But to each his/her own. I'd hope they would lkearn to use discretion over time. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Why? I think if we can decorate any other body part why not this part?<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">

As far as c***rings go, that's even a touchier subject, as far as I am concerned. These rings were created to keep blood in the penis, and to enhance sexual pleasure. A guy wearing a ring at a club or beach is absoultely unacceptable.

</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Some are created to help keep blood in the penis but some are created just as jewelry and don't have the other function at all. Why would that be unacceptable?

I keep seeing posts that attribute sexual function to the jewelry when some times that isn't the reality. Why can't it just be jewelry? What is wrong with adorning a penis as you would rings on your fingers? What if it were painted?

Maybe we need to have the people who see genital jewelry as sexual only get their minds out of the gutter, just as nudists would like textiles to get their minds out of the gutter.

need2Bnude

09-23-2005, 09:18 AM

Cyndia, maybe new nudists are still very unfamiliar with the etiquette of the nudists life. Maybe they come from a background where these things are seen as perversion; until its expained to them what its function would be. (the rings) Why attack what is said, why not try to understand. It so that you can see the point of view?Keep your attacks to yourself there getting old.<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Cyndiannaked:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by need2Bnude:
I agree as well; Why wear a ring like that to a nude beach. Yes it will send a mixed message to newbies, and thats not good, what are we then encouraging the message of perversion? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

A mixed message about what? That some people like to wear jewelry?

What is a perversion? The only time I see that used is by someone who doesn't understand sexuality and feel that anything outside of basic missionary sex by male and female is wrong. It is such a bigotted term! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

09-23-2005, 09:24 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by need2Bnude:
Cyndia, maybe new nudists are still very unfamiliar with the etiquette of the nudists life. Maybe they come from a background where these things are seen as perversion; until its expained to them what its function would be. (the rings) Why attack what is said, why not try to understand. It so that you can see the point of view?Keep your attacks to yourself there getting old. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

What attacks? There are none. You need to stop attacking me just for having a different point of view than you.

Anyone that uses the word perversion most likely won't be a nudist anyway because they'd consider mere nudity a perversion too. It's a word that really has no place in the real world. It's used to disguise a lack of knowledge about the human body, it's functions and sexuality.

And how do you learn about nudist ettiquette? Not by hiding anything but by experiencing and seeing and asking questions.

How do you learn that genital jewelry is harmless? By seeing it and meeting the nice people that are attached to the jewelry.

You can't become accustomed to something you aren't exposed to.

EricNY

09-23-2005, 09:28 AM

Ahem...Lets not start fighting or someone will have to sit between you...everyone has different views...Thats what makes a good conversation. If everyone thought the same it would be a very short very boring thread.

I do not see an attack here carry on http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

09-23-2005, 09:46 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ercNY:

I do not see an attack here carry on http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thank you!

09-23-2005, 10:01 AM

Here is a little story about one nudist imposing their "values" on the rest. This is no different than telling others what jewelry to wear.

Names have been changed to Protect the pompous and ignorant.

I thought I would mention this thing that has always bothered me.
The Morality Police.
I was at a Nudist place with my family and my daughter scraped her
knee, she came to me in tears.
I took her on my lap and checked the minor scrape and was comforting
her when another gentlemen walked up and warned me that I should move
my daughter off my lap to another chair before "Mabel" showed up.
I settled my daughter on a chair and asked who "Mabel" was and he
informed me that she was a older lady who took it upon herself to
"Protect" the Nudist Lifestyle from the "Perverts".
He explained that she would patrol the park and call the Police
whenever she saw something that she considered to be "Pervert
behavior".
He said that she had already reported several people for doing just
what I had been doing, holding a child on my lap or hugging someone
because (according to her) "our genitals may touch and that is
sex/incest".
He said that she would call the Police not talk to the Management
because according to her the management would do nothing.
He also said that as far as he knew all charges had been dropped on the
reports she made.
By this time my daughter had run back to play and "Jim" pointed out
to me a lady who looked to be in her 50's or 60's walking into the
area wearing a "N" visor and a fanny pack with a cellphone clipped
on it and an expression like someone who had tasted something nasty.
I've gone back to this place several times, but I've gotten in the
habit of asking to see if "Mabel" is there and the staff never seem
surprised that I ask.
Nobody asked her to "Police" our Lifestyle and especially not to
inflict her own values upon others as the model for the nudist
lifestyle.

PascoDoug

09-23-2005, 10:04 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by need2Bnude:
Cyndia, maybe new nudists are still very unfamiliar with the etiquette of the nudists life. Maybe they come from a background where these things are seen as perversion; until its expained to them what its function would be. (the rings) Why attack what is said, why not try to understand. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

In my experience, if someone considers something a "perversion", there is no amount of explaining one can do that will change their minds.

It is a strongly ingrained concept that is mostly held by intolerant, fanatical types who very set in their ways, and who are intolerant of other lifestyles, cultures and ideas to being with. It is the way they were raised and difficult if not impossible to break.

Fortunately, most nudists - who are typically open minded to being with, generally don't fit that mindset and do not see piercings as perverted but just inappropriate in certain settings. There's nothing wrong with that.

need2Bnude

09-23-2005, 10:05 AM

Yeah sure O.K.<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Cyndiannaked:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ercNY:

I do not see an attack here carry on http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thank you! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

EricNY

09-23-2005, 10:08 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Cyndiannaked:
Here is a little story about one nudist imposing their "values" on the rest. This is no different than telling others what jewelry to wear.

</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You know what? If not for the fact that the moral of the story is so sad...it is actually kind of funny. Especially the description of "Mabel" I think I know her...LOL

PascoDoug

09-23-2005, 10:15 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Cyndiannaked:
Here is a little story about one nudist imposing their "values" on the rest. This is no different than telling others what jewelry to wear.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The real question is did the club management take the reports by this "Mabel" seriously or did they think she was a pain in the rear end as well? Sounds like someone just needs to confront her and put her in her place. One member doesn't have the right to dictate what is appropriate or not for the club.

PascoDoug

09-23-2005, 10:20 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ercNY:
You know what? If not for the fact that the moral of the story is so sad...it is actually kind of funny. Especially the description of "Mabel" I think I know her...LOL </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I agree - reminds me of the nosy neighbor lady on the old TV show "Bewitched" who was always spying on the Stevens' house and calling the police. Forget her name...

EricNY

09-23-2005, 10:28 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PascoDoug:
I agree - reminds me of the nosy neighbor lady on the old TV show "Bewitched" who was always spying on the Stevens' house and calling the police. Forget her name... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That would be Gladys Kravitz.....I thought she was great

sknny_dipper

09-23-2005, 11:18 AM

I do not have any tatoos or piercing, personally I don't see the point in them nor, like them. In saying that I have never read such a load of self righteous blatent bigotery, from so called naturists. Live and let live.

(post modified ercNY)

EricNY

09-23-2005, 11:25 AM

uhhh not sure wher that came from, but I think you could tone it down a little.

(I modified your post slightly)

sknny_dipper

09-23-2005, 11:39 AM

modified for what?

EricNY

09-23-2005, 11:49 AM

I will not discuss that here, I sent an explanation via PM

PascoDoug

09-23-2005, 12:50 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ercNY:
I will not discuss that here, I sent an explanation via PM </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Good job http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

soundman

09-23-2005, 12:51 PM

EricNY

09-23-2005, 01:01 PM

Soundman,

For a long time I would have agreed with that, but as of late I have found it to be so common and harmless that I have changed my tune.

Although I will never have one myself (never say never) I have come to gips that everyone is entitled to his or her freedom of expression. As long as it does not harm others or infringe on their rights then do what you will.

The only thing i am still a little on the fence about is the use of the rings that started this topic. I still see it as they are of a sexual nature (at least my understanding for why they are sold) so why wear one at other times.

But my mind will remain open and I am willing to accept the veiws of others until my mind is made up.

Baron Lake

09-23-2005, 01:20 PM

Ignorance and intolerance. More closely related than just their locations in the dictionary.
b.l.

Dustin S

09-23-2005, 02:47 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Cyndiann

I keep seeing posts that attribute sexual function to the jewelry when some times that isn't the reality.

<snip>

Maybe we need to have the people who see genital jewelry as sexual only get their minds out of the gutter, just as nudists would like textiles to get their minds out of the gutter. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sorry, but I find this amusing. Many people consider nudism as sexual when it is not. Here we have nudist debating whether jewelry is sexual or not. Ah, the irony. Lol!

I’ve never seen anyone with genital jewelry (have met people who claim to wear it) so honestly don’t know enough to discuss it. I have talked with a friend of mine about c**k rings. IMO they are used to increase sexual pleasure so this type of ring to me would be inappropriate for a nudist camp. Non-sexual rings I’m unsure about.

Genital jewelry to me seems odd when worn by nudist, but having never been around a nudist I wouldn’t know. Realize that the only people I have met who have claimed to wear genital jewelry are textiles, so it is hard to see it as not being sexual.

09-23-2005, 03:06 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by soundman:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Cyndiannaked:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Dolby:
Cyndiannaked,

While facial piercings are more common, I'm not so sure they're accepted everywhere. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I never said they were accepted everywhere. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Then why should piercings be accepted everywhere with nudists also? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I dunno, ask someone who feels they should be accepted everywhere. I never mentioned that (for the second time). I was talking about it becoming more mainstream which is not the same.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">

Newcomers might accept nudism easier if it doesn't go hand in hand with piercing everywhere. Why not just stick with nudity as the theme of nudist events without adding other alternate lifestyles that are hard to sell? Pretty soon we will have people hanging from the trees with piecings attached to all different body parts. Great for families, right! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I bet newcomers would accept us easier if we put clothes on too. Nudists belong to all other groups on the planet, alternative or not and it shouldn't be relevant to their practice of nudism. I really don't know what genital jewelry has to do with alternative lifestyles. They really aren't linked. Some people think they are is all.

Many people with piercings have families. Again, I don't know how this relates to what I originally said. Wearing genital jewelry has nothing to do with being a family or being around a family no more than wearing any other jewelry would be.

David77

09-23-2005, 05:44 PM

I was at a resort last year and saw a man with a gold ring, like a larger wedding band, around his penis. Yes, it unoubtedly made people notice his penis more, but it is not immoral to notice this man's penis. Neither should it be any different, essentially, than viewing the wedding band on his finger, in my opinion.

If he wants to celebrate by putting this nice gold ring on his penis, he is not necessarily being a sexual exhibitionist, by seemingly celebrating his manhood.

We all appreciate our bodies (hopefully). His wife had gold rings around her nipples, and it was rather nice, I thought. Neither act damaged or violated their own "sacred" flesh, derma, body's surface, nor did it irrevocably scar their personal "holy temple", their body, a gift to them for good care.

PascoDoug

09-23-2005, 06:13 PM

Would you be OK with this guy showing up at your local resort? How would you feel about your kids seeing him? Should we just accept him for who he is and ignore the "decorations"?

How would you react if you met him?

Please note I'm asking these questions in a neutral sense, to promote discussion and get opinions. No flamewar please http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

soundman

09-23-2005, 06:33 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Cyndiannaked:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by soundman:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Cyndiannaked:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Dolby:
Cyndiannaked,

While facial piercings are more common, I'm not so sure they're accepted everywhere. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I never said they were accepted everywhere. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Then why should piercings be accepted everywhere with nudists also? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I dunno, ask someone who feels they should be accepted everywhere. I never mentioned that (for the second time). I was talking about it becoming more mainstream which is not the same.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">

Newcomers might accept nudism easier if it doesn't go hand in hand with piercing everywhere. Why not just stick with nudity as the theme of nudist events without adding other alternate lifestyles that are hard to sell? Pretty soon we will have people hanging from the trees with piecings attached to all different body parts. Great for families, right! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I bet newcomers would accept us easier if we put clothes on too. Nudists belong to all other groups on the planet, alternative or not and it shouldn't be relevant to their practice of nudism. I really don't know what genital jewelry has to do with alternative lifestyles. They really aren't linked. Some people think they are is all.

Many people with piercings have families. Again, I don't know how this relates to what I originally said. Wearing genital jewelry has nothing to do with being a family or being around a family no more than wearing any other jewelry would be. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yes, but wearing jewelry on the genitals is considered sexual to many. Nudism shouldn't just for open-minded liberals to tolerate everything. It should also be for the more conservative that have different values but accept nudism. We have to draw a line or people will have sex in front of others. Where do we draw the line? If you touch someone on their back, arm or shake hands, it is okay. But if you touch their genitals it is not. The genitals have different rules because they are sexual. Drawing attention to them with piercings is different in this society than drawing attention to your ears with piercings. I say keep the genital piercings at home and keep nudism pure. Otherwise nudism will only involve liberals who tolerate everything.

NudeTopher

09-23-2005, 06:59 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by soundman:

Yes, but wearing jewelry on the genitals is considered sexual to many. <span class="ev_code_BLUE">Soundman, as you know, most textiles consider being naked to be sexual and nude recreation to be a sexual activity. As a nudist you know better. If you understand that nudism isn't about sex it doesn't seem difficult to grasp that body jewlery isn't sexual (For the record I have no piercings, no body jewlery, no tats, and I don't own a cockring.)</span>

Nudism shouldn't just for open-minded liberals to tolerate everything. <span class="ev_code_BLUE">I suppose if you state that liberals are open minded that would then define conservatives a being closed minded. What is so wrong with NOT being closed minded? After all, if as a society we followed the conservative (closed minded) belief system then nudism wouldn't even exist. Seriously, ask (textile) conservatives how they feel about nudists. There is NO acceptence.

What you are asking for is for nudism to be accepted despite commonly held conservative views and values; but you won't provide that same freedom to others that wish to wear body jewlery. That's not a conservative/liberal issue-that's just being selfish; you only want peope to wear,act, and behave as you deem fit. In short, you just defined conservatives as judgemental, selfish oafs who can break the norms of society (i.e. nudism) but must adhere to other conservative beliefs. </span>

It should also be for the more conservative that have different values but accept nudism. We have to draw a line or people will have sex in front of others. Where do we draw the line?

<span class="ev_code_BLUE">I believe that nudism and body jewlery pretty much define the lines themselves. Have you seen anybody here suggest public sexuality? For as long as I have been here I havn't seen that here or at the nude venues that I have visited. The sexual connotation must be in your own mind for I can't imagine anybody being tempted to have public sex at a nudist venue just because they have a body part pierced, tatooed, or adorned with rings.</span>

If you touch someone on their back, arm or shake hands, it is okay. But if you touch their genitals it is not. The genitals have different rules because they are sexual. <span class="ev_code_GREEN">Once again, who is suggesting or requesting that their genitals be touched just because they have a slip-on ring or someother such object. I've seen many women with gold bands on their nippies, I can guarantee that if you tried touching them you would get touched-with a kick to your groin. </span>
Drawing attention to them with piercings is different in this society than drawing attention to your ears with piercings. I say keep the genital piercings at home and keep nudism pure. Otherwise nudism will only involve liberals who tolerate everything.

<span class="ev_code_BLUE">

[COLOR:BLUE]Being a liberal as well as a nudist, I'm not disinclusive as you are. I should hope that everybody participates in nude recreation. When it comes to the beach, swims, and clubs I have a desire to see more people-not less. You are the one that suggested that maybe it' all too much for conservatives; maybe you are right and they should stay home since they only want to be around people identical to themselves. Please remember that was your suggestion, via sheer logic, not mine!</span>

MJ_KC

09-23-2005, 07:14 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PascoDoug:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Cyndiannaked:
Here is a little story about one nudist imposing their "values" on the rest. This is no different than telling others what jewelry to wear.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The real question is did the club management take the reports by this "Mabel" seriously or did they think she was a pain in the rear end as well? Sounds like someone just needs to confront her and put her in her place. One member doesn't have the right to dictate what is appropriate or not for the club. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
If she is disruptive to the operation of the club, why does management allow her to keep her membership? Sounds to me like she is harassing and trying to intimidate people.

David77

09-23-2005, 07:50 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Would you be OK with this guy showing up at your local resort? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I would hope that he would not show up at the resort, as it might give the resort a bad reputation, to those who did not know the resort very well.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">How would you feel about your kids seeing him? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I think that I would explain to the child that this type of piercing behavior is totally unacceptable, and that the person is probably suffering from mental problems.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Should we just accept him for who he is and ignore the "decorations"? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, we should accept him as a precious, valued human being, but not ignore his "decorations".

They are probably a symptom of deeper mental/emotional problems. If someone was concerned about him, and interested enough to talk with him, they might befriend him and eventually refer him to a mental health clinic, if needed. But this may be futile. He may be getting too much secondary enjoyment from this gross behavior. Need for this referral may be indicated by his mutalating behavior, too far from societal norm, even in our "piercing society".

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">How would you react if you met him? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I would be friendly and treat him with respect, just as all human beings should be treated.

Maybe we should ask the Christians this question, "What would Jesus do?"
It is said that Jesus ate with all types of people, had compassion on prostitutes and society's rejected people and people who were different, and gave an instructive parable about helping a traveler from Jeruselem going to Jerico who was beaten and robed. Even though the Samaritans were those whom many others normally hated, the very helpful, compassionate Sameritan was praised as having greater behavior than the other two persons who had greater status in society, who passed the man by.

I am a Naturalistic Humanist, but I will consider any writing from any source that I find is good, and this religious principle, stated above, sounds good to me.

I try to follow my church "Purposes and Principles", and two of them are;

to covenant, to affirm and promote;
1. the inherent worth and dignity of ever person,
2. justice, equality, and <u>compassion</u> in human relations

fredm74

09-23-2005, 08:14 PM

Wow, this topic is heated.........lol

Just to add my two cents, the c*ck ring is pretty much a "sex toy". If you go to an erotic website or adult bookstore, c*ck rings are sold right along with dildos, blow-up dolls and lubricants. c*ck rings, like someone mentioned is used to enhance erection. Why wear a c*ck ring to a nude beach that is meant to arouse a male for sexual pleasure? It really no makes no sense.

If a child sees a man with a c*ck ring parading down the beach then it opens a whole different situation altogether. Its a touchy subject indeed.

c*ck rings are different than rings on a finger, rings on a toe or an earring, those things do not cause someone to get an erection but a c*ck ring does because that is its purpose.

Stay nude, Fred http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

David77

09-23-2005, 08:55 PM

You are so right, FredM74.

NudeTopher

09-24-2005, 02:09 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by fredm74:
Wow, this topic is heated.........lol

Just to add my two cents, the c*ck ring is pretty much a "sex toy". If you go to an erotic website or adult bookstore, c*ck rings are sold right along with dildos, blow-up dolls and lubricants. c*ck rings, like someone mentioned is used to enhance erection. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Actually, we are talking about two different things. The only cockrings that I have ever seen worn at a nudist venue were decorative. They were not the tight kind used to enhance and prolong errections; and there were no errections involved.

sknny_dipper

09-24-2005, 02:34 AM

Extremly well put, Christopher.

MJ_KC

09-24-2005, 06:59 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by NudeTopher (christopher):
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by fredm74:
Wow, this topic is heated.........lol

Just to add my two cents, the c*ck ring is pretty much a "sex toy". If you go to an erotic website or adult bookstore, c*ck rings are sold right along with dildos, blow-up dolls and lubricants. c*ck rings, like someone mentioned is used to enhance erection. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Actually, we are talking about two different things. The only cockrings that I have ever seen worn at a nudist venue were decorative. They were not the tight kind used to enhance and prolong errections; and there were no errections involved. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
The only ones that I have seen at a nude beach were not decorative. Made me wonder what the guy was doing this for.

nakednudists

09-24-2005, 09:25 AM

Uh, no thanks. No need for me to have a penis ring.

By the way, I'm a bronze member now!!! http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

EricNY

09-24-2005, 10:05 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by nakednudists:
By the way, I'm a bronze member now!!! http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You don't look bronze to me....hmmm maybe its just the lighting http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

BackpackerBrian

09-24-2005, 09:20 PM

Nakednudists, I am with you on, "Just say no penis rings!"

The way I see it, being a nudist is about the naturalness, and if I was supposed to wear a penis ring, I would have been born with it!

You know, exposing the penis is part of being a nudist . . . I don't have to draw attention to it with a ring. I sure hope my friends, as well as new acquaintences, like me for more than my penis.

By the way, nakednudists, congrats on your bronze status!!!!

David77

09-24-2005, 09:37 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Nakednudists, I am with you on, "Just say no penis rings!" </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Actually, the original question was not about penis rings, but a c*ck ring. They are two different things. The latter ring goes around both parts at once, the penis AND the scrotum.

krcNY

09-25-2005, 04:53 AM

I keep coming and reading this thread. My opinions change from page to page.

When nude you are just like everyone else. I like to be different, I am not a typical female and proud of it. When nude I will wear stylish flip flops or a really cool towel or something to stand out. Not because I want people to see me, I just want to be different.

I only have peircings in my ears, no tatoos and no crazy hair colorings. My jewelry is subtle.

I do not see the need to such adornment on the penis while nude. It draws the attention to the penis not the person. I do not care if it is decorative or not. I do not look from penis to penis at nude venues and don't want to start. If you want to be different then wear a hat, some interesting shoes, or anything!!! There are ways to stand out without it.

Just a female opinion here.

NudeTopher

09-25-2005, 05:22 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by krcNY:
I keep coming and reading this thread. My opinions change from page to page.

When nude you are just like everyone else. I like to be different, I am not a typical female and proud of it. When nude I will wear stylish flip flops or a really cool towel or something to stand out. Not because I want people to see me, I just want to be different.

I only have peircings in my ears, no tatoos and no crazy hair colorings. My jewelry is subtle.

I do not see the need to such adornment on the penis while nude. It draws the attention to the penis not the person. I do not care if it is decorative or not. I do not look from penis to penis at nude venues and don't want to start. If you want to be different then wear a hat, some interesting shoes, or anything!!! There are ways to stand out without it.

Just a female opinion here. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I fully understand your opinion, and I'm glad that you posted. That being said, I suppose it comes down to something a bit different for me. Not only don't I have any genital jewelry, and I don't know where to buy any, I don't want any! But, I certainly don't want to be in a position of imposing my likes and dislikes on others. If somebody decides to wear a thing on their thingy at the beach it really isn't any of my business and certainly is not going to effect my day at the beach any more then your brightly colored flip-flops or cool towel.

Nudony

09-25-2005, 06:31 AM

Just wait until they try to make the penis gourd fashionable!

(Of course, I'm being facetious here!"

NudeTopher

09-25-2005, 06:40 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Nudony:
Just wait until they try to make the penis gourd fashionable!

(Of course, I'm being facetious here!" </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh No! Why do I envision a poll so we can choose between a cod piece or a penis gourd?

BackpackerBrian

09-25-2005, 06:47 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by David77:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Nakednudists, I am with you on, "Just say no penis rings!" </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Actually, the original question was not about penis rings, but a c*ck ring. They are two different things. The latter ring goes around both parts at once, the penis AND the scrotum. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hmmmm, I never knew the difference between a penis ring and a c***ring. I am quite certain nakednudists didn't either. Maybe that's a good thing . . . you know, not to be a c***ring expert http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

PascoDoug

09-25-2005, 07:13 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BackpackerBrian:
Hmmmm, I never knew the difference between a penis ring and a c***ring. I am quite certain nakednudists didn't either. Maybe that's a good thing . . . you know, not to be a c***ring expert http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

A c0ck ring is where c0ck fights are held. http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

NudeAl

09-25-2005, 07:27 AM

I'll chime in here, a little goes a long way, no pun intended. That is to say less is more, well that's not sounding much better is it?

What I meant was if you are going to adorn your genital area then it shouldn't be to gaudy or flashy. I'm not into jewelry the only thing I ever wear is my wedding band and it is just a plain gold band. I have seen an increase in recent years of the number of nudists who choose to decorate this area of their bodies and if it is tastfully done I see nothing wrong with it. I think there can be middle ground but not sure where we would draw the line. I did see one piece of male genital jewelry at the beach that I found offensive. It was basically a steel cage that surrounded the penis and scrotum like several c*ckrings linked together. I'm fairly certain the individual was doing it for sexual reasons as the group he was with later were seen to be engaging in open sex on the beach.

So in my opinion if someone has a bit of jewelry down there keep it tastful and it may just be okay. As for me I'll remain as I am and try very hard to keep an open mind.

NudeTopher

09-25-2005, 07:43 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by NudeAl:
I'll chime in here, a little goes a long way, no pun intended. That is to say less is more, well that's not sounding much better is it?

What I meant was if you are going to adorn your genital area then it shouldn't be to gaudy or flashy. I'm not into jewelry the only thing I ever wear is my wedding band and it is just a plain gold band. I have seen an increase in recent years of the number of nudists who choose to decorate this area of their bodies and if it is tastfully done I see nothing wrong with it...I. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The perfect opening for me to use one of my favorite lines "everybody has class..some high..some low"

09-25-2005, 01:03 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by krcNY:

I do not see the need to such adornment on the penis while nude. It draws the attention to the penis not the person. I do not care if it is decorative or not. I do not look from penis to penis at nude venues and don't want to start. If you want to be different then wear a hat, some interesting shoes, or anything!!! There are ways to stand out without it.

Just a female opinion here. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ok, I've asked this several times now of several people and still no response. Why is it wrong to draw attention to a penis? Why can nobody answer this?

Doesn't your hat and jewelry draw attention to other body parts? Why is it not wrong to draw attention to your feet with your shoes but not to a penis with jewelry or paint?

And yes I do look from penis to penis as well as all other body parts while in a social nudity situation. I don't consider it something to avoid looking at. Avoiding looking at them would mean you feel uncomfortable if you did? Or what? Do you still have flashbacks to childhood when genitals were "dirty"? Help me understand this.

Would it be wrong to put body paint on it? What if it were just very very large? Would that make you uncomfortable too?

RunningNude57

09-25-2005, 01:07 PM

.... and some of that "jewelry" looks non-too comfortable.... but live & let live.

The perfect opening for me to use one of my favorite lines "everybody has class..some high..some low"[/QUOTE]

soundman

09-25-2005, 01:33 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Cyndiannaked:
Ok, I've asked this several times now of several people and still no response. Why is it wrong to draw attention to a penis? Why can nobody answer this? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I'll answer again.
Wearing jewelry on the genitals is considered sexual to many. If you touch someone on their back, arm or shake hands, it is okay. But if you touch their genitals it is not. The genitals have different rules because they are sexual by nature. Drawing attention to them with piercing is considered sexual. Wearing a bikini is sexual to me because it is placed on sex organs. Keep the genital piercing at home and keep nudism pure.

MJ_KC

09-25-2005, 01:44 PM

soundman

09-25-2005, 01:56 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MJ_KC:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by soundman:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Cyndiannaked:
Ok, I've asked this several times now of several people and still no response. Why is it wrong to draw attention to a penis? Why can nobody answer this? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I'll answer again.
Wearing jewelry on the genitals is considered sexual to many. If you touch someone on their back, arm or shake hands, it is okay. But if you touch their genitals it is not. The genitals have different rules because they are sexual by nature. Drawing attention to them with piercing is considered sexual. Wearing a bikini is sexual to me because it is placed on sex organs. Keep the genital piercing at home and keep nudism pure. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I just find the idea of certain things making nudism non-pure to be a bit of a stretch. To most non-nudist people, nudism is anything but pure.

How did nudists become prudish about so many things when we aren't prudish about going nude? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
That is why nudism isn't growing very fast. People think it is all about sex. I have heard it many times from the general public. We need to keep it as pure as possible then people will allow the rest of the family to get involved. Otherwise it will just be a hedonistic naughty thing that no one whould want their children near.

fredm74

09-25-2005, 02:28 PM

Hey Cyndiannaked, I hope you are doing well. As for your question, I don't think there is anything wrong with the penis but wouldn't it be awkward if everyone and their momma was pointing and gawking at a man's penis due to his c*ck ring when its clearly the #1 nude etiquette to NOT do that on a nude beach? Staring at a man's penis too long might make some uncomfortable but a guy who is purposely drawing attention on his penis might make people think twice.

I don't think the penis is dirty or anything to be embarrassed about but if a guy comes in wearing a c*ck ring for the sole purpose to have people stare at his penis, his intentions comes into question. If the setting is at a private party, in the privacy of his home, then that is fine but at a public nude beach, it's somewhat a touchy issue...........

Stay nude, Fred http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Cyndiannaked:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by krcNY:

I do not see the need to such adornment on the penis while nude. It draws the attention to the penis not the person. I do not care if it is decorative or not. I do not look from penis to penis at nude venues and don't want to start. If you want to be different then wear a hat, some interesting shoes, or anything!!! There are ways to stand out without it.

Just a female opinion here. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ok, I've asked this several times now of several people and still no response. Why is it wrong to draw attention to a penis? Why can nobody answer this?

Doesn't your hat and jewelry draw attention to other body parts? Why is it not wrong to draw attention to your feet with your shoes but not to a penis with jewelry or paint?

And yes I do look from penis to penis as well as all other body parts while in a social nudity situation. I don't consider it something to avoid looking at. Avoiding looking at them would mean you feel uncomfortable if you did? Or what? Do you still have flashbacks to childhood when genitals were "dirty"? Help me understand this.

Would it be wrong to put body paint on it? What if it were just very very large? Would that make you uncomfortable too? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

fredm74

09-25-2005, 02:37 PM

freedom2be, I hear ya. I'm with you on this one. But I can see why some would feel its inappropriate for a nude beach. I've seen many c*ck rings on Gunnison as well. Did I pass out? Of course not. But anyone knows that a c*ck ring is associated with sex. And that is pretty much what nudism isn't about. It's not about sex. So in a way it sort of sends mixed messages of the nudist lifestyle.

-Stay nude, Fred http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by freedom2be:
Sort of like telling women they can't bend over or squat when they're at the beach or resort...because dear God - somebody might "see" something.... THEY'RE NUDE!!!! Should you put your pants back on to pick up your towel? I just see it as another issue people like to control...how does wearing a ring possibly hurt anybody around you? I've probably seen 50 of them at Gunnison - no erections involved...nobody passed out at the sight of it and life went on....most congenially... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

krcNY

09-25-2005, 02:52 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Cyndiannaked:

Ok, I've asked this several times now of several people and still no response. Why is it wrong to draw attention to a penis? Why can nobody answer this?

Doesn't your hat and jewelry draw attention to other body parts? Why is it not wrong to draw attention to your feet with your shoes but not to a penis with jewelry or paint?

And yes I do look from penis to penis as well as all other body parts while in a social nudity situation. I don't consider it something to avoid looking at. Avoiding looking at them would mean you feel uncomfortable if you did? Or what? Do you still have flashbacks to childhood when genitals were "dirty"? Help me understand this.

<span class="ev_code_GREEN">My answer is yes. I never learned the proper terminology until High School. I feel uncomfortable looking at someone elses penis but my husband. Yes I notice sizes are different, but to take the time to appreciate the jewelry,paint job, etc....I Feel Uncomfortable.</span>

Would it be wrong to put body paint on it? What if it were just very very large? Would that make you uncomfortable too? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

09-25-2005, 04:48 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by soundman:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Cyndiannaked:
Ok, I've asked this several times now of several people and still no response. Why is it wrong to draw attention to a penis? Why can nobody answer this? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I'll answer again.
Wearing jewelry on the genitals is considered sexual to many. If you touch someone on their back, arm or shake hands, it is okay. But if you touch their genitals it is not. The genitals have different rules because they are sexual by nature. Drawing attention to them with piercing is considered sexual. Wearing a bikini is sexual to me because it is placed on sex organs. Keep the genital piercing at home and keep nudism pure. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nudism is considered sexual by many. The way to stop people from thinking nudism AND genital jewelry is sexual is by making it commonplace, and you do that by having them exposed to it, not by hiding it.

I really think that nudism is never "pure", it's alwasy interpreted by each individual. People are sexual and nudism will reflect that no matter how you want to pretend to the world that it's not. I think you are saying we can't be sexual while being a nudist and that is so untrue.

What we need is for the general public to become comfortable with their sexuality and mere nudity will not be an issue, as genital decoration will not be an issue.

It's the sexuality part that is the sticking point. In Europe, where sexuality is treated totally different than in the US they don't confuse different kinds of nudity. They see nudity (and genital decoration) in a much more relaxed fashion. It's not one dimensional like it is here in the US.

09-25-2005, 04:52 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by soundman:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MJ_KC:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by soundman:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Cyndiannaked:
Ok, I've asked this several times now of several people and still no response. Why is it wrong to draw attention to a penis? Why can nobody answer this? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I'll answer again.
Wearing jewelry on the genitals is considered sexual to many. If you touch someone on their back, arm or shake hands, it is okay. But if you touch their genitals it is not. The genitals have different rules because they are sexual by nature. Drawing attention to them with piercing is considered sexual. Wearing a bikini is sexual to me because it is placed on sex organs. Keep the genital piercing at home and keep nudism pure. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I just find the idea of certain things making nudism non-pure to be a bit of a stretch. To most non-nudist people, nudism is anything but pure.

How did nudists become prudish about so many things when we aren't prudish about going nude? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
That is why nudism isn't growing very fast. People think it is all about sex. I have heard it many times from the general public. We need to keep it as pure as possible then people will allow the rest of the family to get involved. Otherwise it will just be a hedonistic naughty thing that no one whould want their children near. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

But that isn't real. As I said, it's really only a problem with US nudists, it's not a worldwide problem. Wearing genital jewelry doesn't affect nudism at all, it doesn't make it "unpure".

We are sexual, we don't turn that off when we go in the nudist resort gates. Many clubs around here have nightclubs in them. It's expected at most vacation destinations.

We don't have to squeeze out our sexuality, we have to become comfortable with it.

I really think that wanting nudism to be asexual is a lie.

09-25-2005, 04:56 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by fredm74:
Hey Cyndiannaked, I hope you are doing well. As for your question, I don't think there is anything wrong with the penis but wouldn't it be awkward if everyone and their momma was pointing and gawking at a man's penis due to his c*ck ring when its clearly the #1 nude etiquette to NOT do that on a nude beach? Staring at a man's penis too long might make some uncomfortable but a guy who is purposely drawing attention on his penis might make people think twice. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Why would people point and gawk at anyone's penis at any time? Why would having a **** ring cause that to happen? That would be bad manners. And how is that the fault of the one wearing the ring? It's the gawkers that are at fault.<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">

I don't think the penis is dirty or anything to be embarrassed about but if a guy comes in wearing a c*ck ring for the sole purpose to have people stare at his penis, his intentions comes into question. If the setting is at a private party, in the privacy of his home, then that is fine but at a public nude beach, it's somewhat a touchy issue...........

Stay nude, Fred http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You assumed in your post that a guy wears it only to have people stare at his penis. Why?

09-25-2005, 04:58 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by fredm74:
But anyone knows that a c*ck ring is associated with sex.

</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You shouldn't make that assumption nor should people assume that about nudism. Both are wrong.

09-25-2005, 05:09 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">My answer is yes. I never learned the proper terminology until High School. I feel uncomfortable looking at someone elses penis but my husband. Yes I notice sizes are different, but to take the time to appreciate the jewelry,paint job, etc....I Feel Uncomfortable. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks for being honest.

Don't you think that the more you see the more comfortable you'd be?

Decades ago just seeing an ankle was uncomfortable. Times change!

krcNY

09-26-2005, 04:01 AM

I honestly do not know. It was one of the reasons I was apprehensive of going to a nude venue. To me it was one thing to be nude at home. Now that I have been to nude venues, it doesn't bother me to see the whole body. But to focus on the penis....my answer is still yes, I am umcomfortable with it.

rascal56

09-26-2005, 07:26 AM

wow! Never expected this kind of reaction. Its all across the board,Thanks for the input. I too have seen rings that go around the scotum and penis. that was my original question although not put exactly that way. Why is done? I dunno to show oiff? maybe for support ( I doubt it) and for the feeling ( who knows). I personally like breast piercings on women and just wondered what the rings were about.
Thanks again.
Rascal.

MJ_KC

09-26-2005, 07:16 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Cyndiannaked:
We are sexual, we don't turn that off when we go in the nudist resort gates. Many clubs around here have nightclubs in them. It's expected at most vacation destinations. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Nightclubs are expected at upscale textile resorts, so I see no reason why they shouldn't be present at upscale nudist resorts.

After all, the only difference is supposed to be the lack of clothing, not the activities that are provided for entertainment.

OZJames

09-26-2005, 08:21 PM

About 10 to 15 years ago a young man was visiting us and we all went for a (clothed) swim. He wore a silver nipple ring. When I saw it I was shocked and I am ashamed to say I made a very impolite remark about it. Since then I have been exposed to much more knowledge about personal jewellery and would now not be shocked at seeing belly rings, nipple rings, male ear rings, rings in eyebrows and genital jewellery. BUT would I make a rude remark – I don’t think so. Perhaps a joke though or a polite question about whether genital jewellery improved sexual pleasure.

Neither my wife nor myself particularly like the look of a smoothie for ourselves. We remain unshaved but we do not criticise anyone for shaving their pubic hairs. I know that people feel “FREE” when shaved and I suspect that they enjoy more sexual pleasure (I have never been game to ask) BUT I also think that people shave to draw attention to their genitals – I challenge any male smoothie to dispute this. Nudists seem VERY comfortable about full body shaving.

So why all the fuss about a few pieces of genital jewellery. As Cyndiannaked said “Wearing genital jewelry doesn't affect nudism at all, it doesn't make it "unpure". We are sexual, we don't turn that off when we go in the nudist resort gates.”

http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif <span class="ev_code_RED">JAMES</span> http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

nakednudists

09-26-2005, 09:03 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BackpackerBrian:
Nakednudists, I am with you on, "Just say no penis rings!"

The way I see it, being a nudist is about the naturalness, and if I was supposed to wear a penis ring, I would have been born with it!

You know, exposing the penis is part of being a nudist . . . I don't have to draw attention to it with a ring. I sure hope my friends, as well as new acquaintences, like me for more than my penis.

By the way, nakednudists, congrats on your bronze status!!!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks Brian. I see no reason to wear anything on your genitals. As far as I am concerned, they are there for specific reasons...one of them not being cockrings, not penis rings as someone quoted. And I think Doug had it right, a cockring is where ***** fight...sounds good to me. Btw Brian, how is your search for a place in Paradise going? Only four more messages and you will join the bronze ranks also!

NudeTopher

09-27-2005, 03:55 AM

Soundman, I believe that you may be confusing fact with fiction. At the very least you are assuming facts not quite in evidence.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by soundman

... Wearing a bikini is sexual to me because it is placed on sex organs....

<span class="ev_code_BLUE">If you find a bikini, or any other piece of cloth to be sexual that's called a fettish! Just because you sexualize something that touches the genitals doesn't mean that anyone else does! Tampons, boxers, toilet paper, and even towels used for drying and sitting on all touch genitals and you'd be hard pressed to find anybody (well a normal anybody) that considers these articles to be sexual.</span>

That is why nudism isn't growing very fast. People think it is all about sex. I have heard it many times from the general public.

<span class="ev_code_BLUE">This statement really makes me wonder where you get your facts.

AANR claims that their membership is growing (despite Cyndiann's claim to thecontrary.) Each year when I go to our local nude beach it gets more and more crowded. Both non-landed and landed nudist clubs have been growing in both membership and quantity of venues. How dare you say that nudism isn't growing! Do you think all of the new, and huge, resorts have invested untold millions of dollars for a shrinking market? If your premise was true they would be going bankrupt instead of expanding.

Lastly, your comment that the general public views nudism as being sexual and that is the reason for nudism not growing in popularity is also highly suspect. There are many reasons that people would never consider nudism/nude recreation. Never once did I hear that supposed sexual behavior was either a primary or secondary reason. Are your prejudices not coloring your "facts" here too?</span>

NudeTopher

09-27-2005, 04:10 AM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by soundman:

If you touch someone on their back, arm or shake hands, it is okay. But if you touch their genitals it is not.

<span class="ev_code_BLUE">
1. Nobody in this thread ever mentioned anything about touching another's genitals.
2. One doesn't need to touch another's genitals for an act to be either sexual or sensual. Have you not ever experienced a sensual massage? A sensual massage involves the use of hands and perhaps a back, arm, leg, hand,or foot; touching genitals is not necessary for a massage to be sexual or sensual</span>

The genitals have different rules because they are sexual by nature. Drawing attention to them with piercing is considered sexual. Wearing a bikini is sexual to me because it is placed on sex organs. Keep the genital piercing at home and keep nudism pure.

<span class="ev_code_BLUE">If I had to venture a guess, I'd say you have a hard you time with being what you call a "pure nudist." If you sexualize textiles that cover pubic areas, and the very thought of breasts/pubic regions bring on such defensive thoughts, I'd guess that you are really having a struggle.</span>

09-27-2005, 04:32 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">AANR claims that their membership is growing (despite Cyndiann's claim to thecontrary.) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I don't just claim it, I called AANR and asked for exact membership figures which they gave me. Anyone can do that. I got it from the horse's mouth, it's not disputable.

What AANR claims is that they have gained members in the last 10 years and they have.

What they don't say is that in the past 6 or so the membership has been dropping, due to Paradise Lakes dropping it's 100% status. Paradise is their largest source of members, therefore their largest source of income.

It would be dropping faster but they now have a new way to gain members that they didn't have previously. They allow people to join directly from their website. This has offset the loss from Paradise somewhat but not enough to make up for all of it.

Now, this doesn't reflect on how many nudists there are or if we are growing or shrinking because the great majority of nudists don't belong to AANR. Some people put that figure as low as 1 or 2%.

Therefore, using AANR's membership figures to determine if nudism is growing or shrinking doesn't work. AANR only consists of clubs. Not beaches, not cruises, and not all clubs.

Nudony

09-27-2005, 06:14 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">What they don't say is that in the past 6 or so the membership has been dropping, due to Paradise Lakes dropping it's 100% status. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Off topic question: does the 100% status refer to nudity? Or endorsement?
http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

09-27-2005, 06:25 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Nudony:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">What they don't say is that in the past 6 or so the membership has been dropping, due to Paradise Lakes dropping it's 100% status. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Off topic question: does the 100% status refer to nudity? Or endorsement?
http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

AANR gives special privileges to clubs that force membership in AANR. They get the great majority of their funds from doing that. A club that forces members to become AANR members is a 100% club. If all clubs stopped forcing people to become AANR members AANR would no longer exist.

Believe me, Paradise Lakes is very probably the club with the least amount of nudity and least amount of actual nudists percentage wise.

Jason Lee

09-27-2005, 06:41 AM

Originally posted by DoctorSurferDude:
shaving genitals was considered obscene.

explain your theory.

DoctorSurferDude

09-27-2005, 01:02 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jason Lee:
Originally posted by DoctorSurferDude:
shaving genitals was considered obscene.

explain your theory. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It's not my theory....just sort of knowledge that I've absorbed I guess. It could be all wrong....cause I wasn't born yet, or aware of nudism.

If you look at old nudist photos from the 60's and 70's, even into the 80's, pubic hair was in.....at times even to the point of having a pelvic afro.

These days a pelvic afro might be so much as considered kind of a lack of hygeine, since "trimming" has become such the norm. When I began as a nudist (1994) a lot less people shaved. It was probably around 30% that did. Now it's pretty much flipped....70% seem to shave these days, or at least super close trim.

I'm getting off on a tangent....but let me qualify it. You know....in the 80's thongs broke into the american beach scene. Many people raised eyebrows at this, some considered it obscene. From what I've gathered nudism was the same way...if you showed up to a resort clean shaven when nearly all the other nudists had either a trim or full mini-afro, I'm sure some would raise eyebrows, and others would be offended, labeling them as "exhibitionists", since they were revealing parts that were supposed to be hidden by hair.

Can any more seasoned nudists back me up on this? Maybe my understanding of the history is not right...

So anyways, the point is that it's a lot like the peircing thing today....it's kind of taboo. Maybe it will catch on, maybe it won't.

Nudony

09-27-2005, 03:24 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">When I began as a nudist (1994) a lot less people shaved. It was probably around 30% that did. Now it's pretty much flipped....70% seem to shave these days, or at least super close trim. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That is also my experience. When I started nudism, smoothness was strictly a "nude beach thing", and automatically associated with exhibitionism (obscene may be a bit strong). Why smoothness caught on so dramatically would be an interesting case study. I think it was the fact that one could be even "more" nude that was appealing. I also think that the fact that so many women embraced it greatly contributed to its popularity and its acceptance at resorts. Heck, even my highly skeptical wife tried it, and to this day keeps hers either completely smooth or super-trim.

But I don't think piercings will ever catch on at the same level as smoothness. The appeal of being pierced is marginal compared to the appeal of being smooth. As a result, I doubt it will much increase in popularity.

NakedGary

09-27-2005, 04:32 PM

Big difference in non invasive genital and breast rings or jewelry for decoration, c..k rings/penis/Ball rings for maintaining tumlence or erection, and jewelry for inserting into genital piercing for various reasons of decoration, looks, and sexual stimulation and/or pleasure.

NudeAl

09-27-2005, 05:15 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">quote:
When I began as a nudist (1994) a lot less people shaved. It was probably around 30% that did. Now it's pretty much flipped....70% seem to shave these days, or at least super close trim. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I came on the nudist scene in 1991 and that is my experience also. I think, though I have know way of proving it, that this shift is reflected in the greater population at large not just nudists. I would suggest that it had something to do with the popularity of the thong and other micro bikinis of that era. I believe it was a gradual shrinking of that material that in turn required a bit of trimming in order to fit it all in.

fredm74

09-27-2005, 05:16 PM

We are sexual, we don't turn that off when we go in the nudist resort gates. Many clubs around here have nightclubs in them. It's expected at most vacation destinations.

cyndian, I agree with you on this one. We are sexual people and just because we are nudist doesn't mean we shut if off but we do have to maintain a level of self-control. Don't we?

We don't have to squeeze out our sexuality, we have to become comfortable with it.

I'm comfortable with my sexuality and being a nudist has enhanced it all the more......

I really think that wanting nudism to be asexual is a lie.[/QUOTE]

fredm74

09-27-2005, 05:25 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by freedom2be:
Sorry Fred - but every textile knows that being nude also is related to sex but we tend to think outside of the box for that don't we? c**k rings may be used for sex but not when I've seen them on the beach - it's what your preconceived notion about an object or situation is - not necessarily what you see in front of you that causes a problem. I saw them for the last 2 summers on Gunnison and wasn't aware they were being used for sex either there or elsewhere so they caused me no discomfort -
I guess it's one of those personal preferences I try not to control about other people...not that I even could...

freedom2be, no need to say sorry, just because we are all nudists doesn't mean that we have to agree on everything. I've known what c*ck rings are used for and the first time I saw it on someone at the beach, I had to do a double take.

With knowing that c*ck rings were sex toys, I just didn't think it fit with the idea of "nudism".

Stay nude, Fred http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

picco

10-08-2005, 12:47 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rascal56:
Just wondering as I was visiting another sight and read about male c*** rings. who wears them,Why and what kind of material.
Just a thought
Rascal. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
what can i say i have both pa and tats i got them because I like them its like people saying it is wroung to be nude

Tampanude

10-08-2005, 01:55 PM

Doesn't bother us one bit what one chooses to adorn their body with. (or not at all. Body, lifestyle, race, or adornment Acceptance is key to our nudist lifestyle.

PascoDoug

10-08-2005, 02:18 PM

Pico,

I'd really appreciate it if you'd pic one avatar and stay with it.. I've already shrunk three avatars for you in the past hour.. http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

BackpackerBrian

10-09-2005, 08:32 PM

fre2bnude

10-09-2005, 10:59 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">We are sexual, we don't turn that off when we go in the nudist resort gates. Many clubs around here have nightclubs in them. It's expected at most vacation destinations.

cyndian, I agree with you on this one. We are sexual people and just because we are nudist doesn't mean we shut if off but we do have to maintain a level of self-control. Don't we?

We don't have to squeeze out our sexuality, we have to become comfortable with it.

I'm comfortable with my sexuality and being a nudist has enhanced it all the more......

I really think that wanting nudism to be asexual is a lie. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>[/quote]

I agree totally, clothed or not sexuality is always there.

fre2bnude

10-10-2005, 10:38 PM

Maybe I'm a little naive or maybe just out of touch living out here in the sticks, but, what exactly is a cockring - apart from the obvious by the name - which part of the penis does it go on and what is it supposed to do apart from decorate. Is it any different to wearing any other form of decoration on various body parts which also draw attention? Does this make these nudists exhibitionists?

EricNY

10-11-2005, 01:43 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by fre2bnude:
Maybe I'm a little naive or maybe just out of touch living out here in the sticks, but, what exactly is a cockring - apart from the obvious by the name - which part of the penis does it go on and what is it supposed to do apart from decorate. Is it any different to wearing any other form of decoration on various body parts which also draw attention? Does this make these nudists exhibitionists? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

This particular device is used as a sexual aid to maintain an erection.

10-11-2005, 02:57 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ercNY:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by fre2bnude:
Maybe I'm a little naive or maybe just out of touch living out here in the sticks, but, what exactly is a cockring - apart from the obvious by the name - which part of the penis does it go on and what is it supposed to do apart from decorate. Is it any different to wearing any other form of decoration on various body parts which also draw attention? Does this make these nudists exhibitionists? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

This particular device is used as a sexual aid to maintain an erection. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

And sometimes it's used merely as decoration. Please lets try and tell a complete story and not just half of it.

krcNY

10-11-2005, 04:42 AM

ercNY is posting what the device was manufactured to do.
What people do with it, is the other half of the story.

Veal Johnson

10-11-2005, 06:47 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Can any more seasoned nudists back me up on this? Maybe my understanding of the history is not right...

So anyways, the point is that it's a lot like the peircing thing today....it's kind of taboo. Maybe it will catch on, maybe it won't. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You are correct. I came on the nudist scene in 1972 and back then no one shaved. Then it was tatoos in the wrong places that raised eyebrows or the wearing of lingerie at a club dance that would get you kicked out.

Then slowly the women started shaving and that raised eyebrows. When I started shaving in the early 1980's people came unglued. "Nudist men don't do that sort of thing unless they are trying to draw attention down there."

Nowdays it's piercing on both men and women and I guess cockrings too. I think nudists are as susceptible to passing fads and fashions as the rest of society. Who knows, next year it may be dyed pubic hair or body hair, I'm thinking maybe blue chest hair with red pubes or...

EricNY

10-11-2005, 09:00 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Cyndiannaked:
And sometimes it's used merely as decoration. Please lets try and tell a complete story and not just half of it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It is what it is, Cyndiann...Do one of your favorite things and Google it. Then let me know how many times you see it used for a decoration. Literally thousands of descriptions of this "personal pleasure device" and I could not find one place that called it a decoration. At minimum it is used to make the penis look larger.

I can accept peircimgs as decoration, but knowing what these rings are designed and manufactured for make them not for decoration on my book.

NakedGary

10-11-2005, 09:29 AM

Another thing no one has mentioned is that wearing these male genital rings as decoration for extended periods [hours] could be injurious and cause permanent damage to the penis and normal erectile function, and even cause "ED" or erectile dysfunction.

Nudony

10-11-2005, 10:05 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Who knows, next year it may be dyed pubic hair or body hair, I'm thinking maybe blue chest hair with red pubes or... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

If what I've seen at the beach is any indication of the next trend, then waist-chains are coming back with a vengeance...

DoctorSurferDude

10-11-2005, 03:41 PM

Poor Bird...

picco

10-14-2005, 01:27 PM

sorry i was just trying to make it smaller<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PascoDoug:
Pico,

I'd really appreciate it if you'd pic one avatar and stay with it.. I've already shrunk three avatars for you in the past hour.. http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

fre2bnude

10-14-2005, 11:46 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BackpackerBrian:
Nakednudists, I am with you on, "Just say no penis rings!"

The way I see it, being a nudist is about the naturalness, and if I was supposed to wear a penis ring, I would have been born with it!

You know, exposing the penis is part of being a nudist . . . I don't have to draw attention to it with a ring. I sure hope my friends, as well as new acquaintences, like me for more than my penis. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

This "naturalness" comes back to another post that I contributed to when I said that body shaving was not being natural and I was criticised for saying it. I still maintain that altering any part of your body whether it be piercing, tattooing or just shaving the hair that grows naturally on your body is not keeping things natural and doing any of these alterations to your body draws attention to the body parts in various amounts. If people want to do this then that is their business as long as it doesn't cause embarrassment or problems for others around them. I personally would not want to draw attention to any parts of my anatomy, I don't consider that I have anything to be boastful about, I'm Mr. Average (or a bit less) in most ways.

Mrs. Natura

06-10-2008, 08:02 AM

Listed below, is a post I have previously made expressing my opinion.

I very much dislike genital piercing, which to me is genital mutilation. I think revealing this unfortunate practice in naturist magazines would give a very bad impression to many persons, and would give suggestible persons an unfortunate idea to "mutilate" themselves.

...to me, it seems like a desecration and some mutilation of one's glorious, wonderful, even sacred body.

Surely let the natural body radiate nude, in all it's glory, without all the defacing hardware or permanent ink on the body.

I would hope that most of us revere the body and would not want it altered unnecessarily.

This all said, l will certainly accept and honor anyone regardless of piercings, tatoos, etc.

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I TOTALLY AGREE with you, as I do also feel like it's "mutilation of the body". But each and everyone is entitled to their own opinions/likings. I know I surely wouldn't do anything which has been mentioned...

Heck, I won't even pierce my own ears!?!!! LOL

Pete Knight

06-10-2008, 09:46 AM

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I TOTALLY AGREE with you, as I do also feel like it's "mutilation of the body". But each and everyone is entitled to their own opinions/likings. I know I surely wouldn't do anything which has been mentioned...

Heck, I won't even pierce my own ears!?!!! LOL

Pretty much my own sentiments, but while I accept your choice to pierce or tattoo, I will not accept the gratuitous exhibitionism shown by some people with piercings, an example is a little bell attached to the end of the penis, you hear a tinkle and look around to see where it comes from, and yes it does happen.

Pete Knight

Joontiki

06-10-2008, 10:10 AM

Reading over the posts made since my last contribution to this forum, it struck me that these responses could just as easily fit in the forum "Are all nudists exhibitionists?"
Perhaps, just perhaps, one of the things that seperates a nudist from an exhibitionist is a cockring????

This "naturalness" comes back to another post that I contributed to when I said that body shaving was not being natural and I was criticised for saying it. I still maintain that altering any part of your body whether it be piercing, tattooing or just shaving the hair that grows naturally on your body is not keeping things natural and doing any of these alterations to your body draws attention to the body parts in various amounts. If people want to do this then that is their business as long as it doesn't cause embarrassment or problems for others around them. I personally would not want to draw attention to any parts of my anatomy, I don't consider that I have anything to be boastful about, I'm Mr. Average (or a bit less) in most ways.
Being a person who actually likes male piercings and has multiple piercings herself... and who plans to get a classic "Sailor Jerry" tattoo as soon as she can afford it... i'll just pipe in with my perception of this.

I'm sure that some guys who have their penises pierced are exhibitionists. But as far as i'm concerned, it's just a piercing. It doesn't necessarily have anything to do with being an exhibitionist. Just like getting your ears done. Are people who pierce their ears all exhibitionists? It's "prettifying" (is that a word?) your body. Hehe, of course i realize that some people will think it's actually achieving the opposite effect though. But to each his own. Hmm. Maybe it's a "Piercing & Ink Community" thing, that the non-pierced/tattood just don't get.

And men who wear cockrings? My very uneducated guess would be that they probably are exhibitionists. But i wouldn't assume that they all are. I would like to hear their reasons first. Personally, if i was a guy, that would be something i wouldn't do. But i couldn't say that other people shouldn't.

And what of exhibitionism? I'm going to dare to say that i'm willing to bet that a lot of naturists have at least a small streak of exhibitionism in them. It's what gives that little rush of exhilaration when we're nude. And if someone is a complete exhibitionist? It doesn't mean that they're not "true" naturists. Elitist alarm bells ring whenever i hear that.

I believe in being inclusive, and if someone says they are a naturist, even if they don't line their ducks up the same way that we do... they still have every right in the world to call themselves a naturist.

Joontiki

06-10-2008, 10:24 AM

Pretty much my own sentiments, but while I accept your choice to pierce or tattoo, I will not accept the gratuitous exhibitionism shown by some people with piercings, an example is a little bell attached to the end of the penis, you hear a tinkle and look around to see where it comes from, and yes it does happen. Pete Knight
LOL. That's hilarious! Now that's something i'd love to see!

Yes, that does sound like a complete exhibitionist! But it also means that they have a sense of humour & are probably a lot of fun to be around! And like i said in my last post, being an exhibitionist, does not mean they are not naturists.

I realize that that's just me though. I tend to enjoy outlandish people, being rather outlandish at times myself. :-)

I also realize that it really is hard to reconcile differences between the Exhibitionist and the Ultra-Conservative ends of the Naturist Spectrum! But to me, both are valid, including the many colours between the two ends! *shrug*

brazhunter

06-10-2008, 10:42 AM

and who plans to get a classic "Sailor Jerry" tattoo as soon as she can afford it...

What's a Sailor Jerry tattoo? I'm getting visions of a classic topless hula girl dancing under a palm tree like you'd see on the arm of an old sailor, LOL!

NakedGary

06-10-2008, 07:28 PM

brazhunter
What's a Sailor Jerry tattoo? I'm getting visions of a classic topless hula girl dancing under a palm tree like you'd see on the arm of an old sailor, LOL!

Sailor Jerry tattoo Examples "Google search" (http://images.google.com/images?ndsp=20&um=1&hl=en&q=%22Sailor+Jerry%22+tattoo&start=0&sa=N)

http://www.bartsystems.com/URLImageArchive/JSEXAMPLE1.jpg

http://www.bartsystems.com/URLImageArchive/JSEXAMPLE2.jpg

http://www.bartsystems.com/URLImageArchive/JSEXAMPLE3.jpg
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Centauri4

06-10-2008, 08:07 PM

I think piercings are simply one way *some* people enjoy having a body to adorn! That's rather simple I suppose, but is it part of the underlying philosophy we are trying to promote?

For many years a person puts on clothes everyday and EVEN IF they have genital piercings for some other reason (stimulation, exhibitionism, eroticism, etc.) hardly anybody may know they have these or enjoy them. Then one day they also "discover" social nudism and decide to try taking off their clothes in a mixed group of strangers, why should they think even for a second (or why would we encourage them to...) it *might* be necessary to remove a piercing or clippy-do-thing that is ALSO A PART OF their person! Their personality. In accepting the person we have to make allowances for the ever changing differences in human appearance, human behavior and (yes) even eccentricities some people "live" to express.

I do not have many piercings but I have thought about subtle forms of adornment using string, twine, wire, magic markers, stickers and even (gasp!) glow in the dark paint. Why? Because they are fun, stimulating (in many ways), exciting, unique, different and expressive of my (often otherwise) repressed personality!

Feel the freedom!
Love the life you live every day!
In the next life you may be a turtle with arms to short to paint your back-shell!

~

MissionNudists

06-16-2008, 09:17 AM

Being a card carrying nudist for over 30 years, I have heard this discussion many times. The arguments remain the same: mutilation, exhibitionism, nude is nude.

Mutilation:
Everyone that I know mutilates themselves to some extent: hair cuts, shaving, eyebrow plucking, ear piercing and even surgery. So this boils down to degree, and who sets the limits.
Exhibitionism:
Anything that attracts attention can be considered exhibitionism: being nude, an expensive watch, a large motor-home, dyed hair, a stylish moustache or even a beach towel with pockets. Again this boils down to degree and who sets the limits.
Nude is nude:
Ok, but then; watches, ID bracelets, hair bands, hats & caps, and shoes are not nude.
To me it looks like, the same arguments that are used against nudists are being use against body adornment.

Tolerance, folks just because it’s not your thing does not make it wrong.

SUNcerly, Walt

Joontiki

06-16-2008, 05:06 PM

Journeyman

06-16-2008, 05:31 PM

Being a card carrying nudist for over 30 years, I have heard this discussion many times. The arguments remain the same: mutilation, exhibitionism, nude is nude. ... (snip)

All your comments are well taken, Walt.

fre2bnude

06-17-2008, 09:55 PM

Being a card carrying nudist for over 30 years, I have heard this discussion many times. The arguments remain the same: mutilation, exhibitionism, nude is nude.
SUNcerly, Walt

Well said Walt, if people want to adorn their bodies, be an exhibitionist or whatever, let them get on with it. Why don't we just let each other live our own lives.
My wife, who is not a nudist, thinks that I'm an exhibitionist because I walk about nude. Am I? I don't think so, but I think textiles consider us exhibitionist because we show off our nude bodies.

naturistoftheyear

06-17-2008, 11:02 PM

I don't like wearing any kind of jewelry around me, so I only wear a wedding ring.

Even a wristwatch I find annoying. I use my cellphone to get the time from.

OZJames

06-17-2008, 11:46 PM

Exhibitionism ??? - that is a difficult question. Almost everyone may be an exhibitionist - coloured fashionable clothes, lipstick, low cut dresses , tight pants , earings, necklaces , makeup, shaving of mens faces, or not shaving - it all has an element of exhibitionism.

Nudists do not hide certain usually covered parts of their bodies that they don't care if anybody sees, surely that is the opposite of exhibitionism. Textiles with earrings, lipstick, hand rings AND nudists with genital and nipple rings would seem to me to be wanting to exhibit or attract attention to those parts of their bodies - whether that is exhibitionism I don't know.:idea:

MissionNudists

06-18-2008, 04:54 AM

I don't like wearing any kind of jewelry around me, so I only wear a wedding ring.

Even a wristwatch I find annoying. I use my cellphone to get the time from.

Years ago I met a guy who worked with machinery, hence he didn't wear a wedding ring on his hand, but had one on his ====.

Cellphones at clubs is a whole other topic. They don't work at HCH and that may be a good thing.

SUNcerly, Walt

swnudedude

06-18-2008, 06:28 AM

check out www.ringthatthing.com

i think it's kinda funny, but I guess it's a business!

Journeyman

06-18-2008, 02:39 PM

check out www.ringthatthing.com

i think it's kinda funny, but I guess it's a business!

It doesn't look like this company is exactly making millions!

But at least these rings do not involve piercing (*cringing*) of the genitals...I can't even watch a needle being put into my arm for a blood test.

Curious, though, that one isn't supposed to become erect when wearing the ring...the mind boggles at what might happen if you do!

fre2bnude

06-18-2008, 09:29 PM

I think I quite like that idea, but I would never go for a piercing.

It would be a bit awkward with an erection though. That's not much of a problem now I'm older but it would have been painful in my teenage years.

kdsisa

06-19-2008, 12:07 PM

I also have to wonder what happens if a guy were to get excited wearing one of those. Maybe it would be uncomfortable enough that it would cause the erection to subside?

brazhunter

06-19-2008, 01:33 PM

And what if somebody walks by with a really, really powerful magnet?

:thinking:

MissionNudists

06-19-2008, 05:34 PM

Regarding what is sexy:

Sexy, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. It's mental not phyisical. Were candle lit dinners romatic when there were only candles?

The value of any body part is due to function. Based on frequency of use, what is the prime function of a penis? People may assign other values, but that changes.

In 1907, Annette Kellermann was arrested, on a Boston beach for indecency; she was wearing a bathing costume that exposed her arms and legs!

For more of my ramblings visit www3.telus.net/Walt/ramblings. Sorry I can't post a link yet.

SUNcerly, Walt

fre2bnude

07-05-2008, 10:39 PM

Regarding what is sexy:
The value of any body part is due to function. Based on frequency of use, what is the prime function of a penis? People may assign other values, but that changes.
SUNcerly, Walt

This is true, I know what mine gets used for mostly, and more and more as I get older!

BRISnude

07-08-2008, 05:28 AM

I'd be worried about losing it. Hope it does not cost too much...!

RalphVa

07-09-2008, 02:33 AM

As a medic in the army, I had to retrieve rings from mangled or swollen fingers quite a bit. People were forever hanging themselves on their rings or catching them on something. Can't imagine what would happen if one caught one of these penis rings on something. NO THANKS.

I don't even wear a ring or a watch. My father never wore them because he found they provided a good way to short out electrical and battery terminals. Get a nasty burn then that happens.

Fitz1980

07-09-2008, 05:12 AM

Regarding what is sexy:

The value of any body part is due to function. Based on frequency of use, what is the prime function of a penis? People may assign other values, but that changes.

I'd say that would be pissing. I don't know about you but I do that much more frequently than the other thing:(

nudepaulc

07-09-2008, 10:16 AM

Well, there sure have been alot of postings here. So I'll add my two cents worth. I have a foreskin piercing. I've had it for a long, long time. Years ago I usually wore a ring in it. Now I wear a simple stud through it It is a constant reminder of long ago happy events and I wear it with pride. About the only time I remove it is to go through airport security - just don't need ringing alarms going off when in a hurry to catch a flight. We're all people and all people have individual quirks - this is just one of mine.

NatureFred

07-09-2008, 02:13 PM

It is a constant reminder of long ago happy events and I wear it with pride.

Well, we've gotten off the topic of c*** rings, which is probably just as well, but here's my $.02 also. Paul's wearing his as a reminder of happy times, which strikes me as just fine. I knew a woman in Boston who was clinically depressed, only partly controlled by medication, and she discovered that when she was at her absolute lowest and contemplating suicide, she could go get another piercing or tattoo and it brought her out of it.

I know I'd rather see her studded and inked from head to toe, than dead. Which is a long and melodramatic way to get to saying, it takes all kinds. You never really know why someone's done the things they've done, and I try to withhold judgement based on just the surface things I can observe.

Joontiki

07-09-2008, 02:30 PM

Well, we've gotten off the topic of c*** rings, which is probably just as well, but here's my $.02 also. Paul's wearing his as a reminder of happy times, which strikes me as just fine. I knew a woman in Boston who was clinically depressed, only partly controlled by medication, and she discovered that when she was at her absolute lowest and contemplating suicide, she could go get another piercing or tattoo and it brought her out of it.

I know I'd rather see her studded and inked from head to toe, than dead. Which is a long and melodramatic way to get to saying, it takes all kinds. You never really know why someone's done the things they've done, and I try to withhold judgement based on just the surface things I can observe.
Good for you! As it should be! That's a very desirable way to look at things, as far as i'm concerned! :-)

bikerboy

07-13-2008, 10:45 PM

Ok, now I know I just chimmed in, but here is my whole .02 cents worth as well. And if I get change back then so be it. Many people do many things in many ways for all different reasons. Some maybe medical while others just want the memories. True to fact that some are just wanting to shine and be provacitive, and those are the ones that we must watch out for. Does that mean we don't talk to somebody because they have ink'd themselves, gotten body jewelry applied, or shaved or whatever. That is the same thing as judging a book by its cover (which I have also done I am ashamed to say, for there are many really good books out there to read). I don't think so. Are we all not naturist for one cause; to get to know the person themselves??????. I don't have any jewelry (yet, but planning on it), but I do have a tattoo and I also shave my entire body. Why do or did I do this, simple reason and if you would like to get to know me, then all the better and I will tell you, but please don't judge me or anybody else for what they do. We are here for the inner body not the outer body I thought.

nakedjohn

07-14-2008, 12:56 AM

This is nothing for me, not my style.

pboggs

07-15-2008, 01:08 PM

why would you even want to get those rings. You must really think ur thing looks amazing...how conceited

fre2bnude

07-16-2008, 09:52 PM

Maybe it's to improve it's look because they don't think it's attractive.

I'm not circumcised but like to keep my foreskin rolled back and I've thought of using one of those rings (as in ringthatthing) placed behind the head to help keep the skin from rolling forward. This doesn't happen very often but it does happen and a ring keeps it back. I've experimented with home made rings quite successfully but it would be better with a proper ring made of silver. It doesn't make things look any more attractive, in fact it just makes me look circumcised, which isn't any more attractive, and you cannot really see the ring.

Does anybody else have this practice of keeping their foreskin rolled back?

picco

07-20-2008, 08:19 PM

yes i like to keep mine rolled back because i have a prince albert

fre2bnude

07-20-2008, 09:00 PM

Ah, somebody else who does this, that's good to know but I wouldn't want the piercing. I'd be happy with just the ring behind the foreskin, I've never wanted to pierce any part of my body least of all my penis.

Shavedinohio

07-27-2008, 10:06 AM

I often wear a c*** ring at my local resort. Some like it, some don't. Those that do are also smoothies like my. I may get a Prince Albert some day. I like the way they look.

shaiomarali

07-29-2008, 11:02 AM

I have a shallow piercing on the left side of my penis, like an ampallang only it doesn't go all the way through. i usually have a barbell through it.

but im gonna be off to agde in 3 weeks time and I opted not to wear the piercing as to be courteous with the family folks in the campsite.

well, i havent been to agde, but if everyone there wears a genital piercing, then my stance has to change now wouldn't it? :p

Pete Knight

07-29-2008, 11:38 AM

I may get a Prince Albert some day. I like the way they look.
I've got a big hammer and some old rusty nails, I could do you a Prince Albert on the cheap if you like.:p

Pete Knight

Pete Knight

07-29-2008, 11:41 AM

fre2bnude

07-29-2008, 09:50 PM

I'd never want to go for a load of ironmongery hanging from my body, and I've never wanted a piercing. But I think a discreet bit of jewellery on my penis behind the head I quite fancy. Strange that I've never wanted rings on my fingers though.

JohnE44

09-18-2008, 08:05 AM

I think I would try a c ring if anything

David77

09-18-2008, 10:06 AM

On the sex education TV program by Sue Johanson (on Sunday nights on the Oxygen channel) it was said that some persons use c rings to capture the blood in the penis. She warns that in such a case, the ring must be taken off every 20 minutes for the blood to circulate in the penis, or otherwise the penis would be damaged from the circulation being cut off.

I have seen some persons at resorts wearing a loose fitting c ring where obviously the blood could never be cut off.

SoCalSmoothy

12-18-2008, 11:34 AM

nudepaulc

12-18-2008, 12:35 PM

Allow me to speak favorably about C rings.

I enjoy long nude hikes - often > 12 km (7-8 miles) and using a C ring (my is bronze, very smooth, fit, but not tight) lifts the scrotum and makes it easier to walk. It is akin to a woman wearing a bra.

While at a beach, I frequently receive positive comments from men who are in the accompany of women. 50% of the time they admit it is their female companion who is more interested.

My wife is not as interested. (She is more critical if I don't stay smooth - all over my body except for on top.

That s a good practical reason for weasring a c ring. I've found that nude running is easier with the support of a ring. I've even worn a small ring in my foreskin pierce and put a cord through it and around my waist (in ancient greek style) to stop the flopping when I run.

txflight1267

12-18-2008, 12:59 PM

I too, wear a **** ring while running nude on the beach. It does seem to help with the bounce factor. I enjoy wearing one when naked. I would like to try wearing a ring around the shaft just under the head of my penis, see some men wearing one out on nude beach. I find wearing a **** ring comfortable.

beachfun1002

12-19-2008, 07:36 AM

I personnelly never could get use to wearing a ring, it was uncomfortable to me. But I also believe in that part of being a nudist is taking what I was born with, and have developed (body wise) into and running with it. Do not want to be judged by what I am wearing, (clothing, jewelry, tattoos).

Rebecca

12-22-2008, 07:45 PM

This does not coincide to any posts but I would just like to say that I have never been a fan of them.

mjmm65

12-23-2008, 02:21 PM

SoCalSmoothy

12-27-2008, 07:14 PM

This does not coincide to any posts but I would just like to say that I have never been a fan of them.

My partner/wife/lady friend is not either. When I am with her, I don't use a C ring. I suspect most women are not. But it is not like I'm using it to attract women.

[FYI, in addition, my life mate is very demanding that I stay smooth, EVERYWHERE! (Except the top of my head where I am lucky to have thick, Richard Gere like, hair.) In general I'm not very hairy (2-5 chest hairs) and yet she was ticked off that I had not plucked all the hairs off my arm the other day. Do you have similar attitudes toward your men?]

No ring - no body hair.

MoonShadow

12-28-2008, 05:33 AM

Sanslines

12-28-2008, 06:00 AM

SoCalSmoothy

01-01-2009, 04:34 PM

Goodness, SoCalSmoothy! I would never be "ticked" off if my mate wanted to be with his hair. I find hair to be part of the whole nudist and being natural environment but I surely would not have anything to say to anyone who wants to be smooth. This is individual preference. If you enjoy being smooth that is what counts most. And you might whisper to your mate that even if a hair or two is apparent, it's not a big deal. ;)

It sounds worse that it is. She simply prefers me smooth, I feel the same way about her.

I do a fair amount of bicycle riding, and I agree- smooth muscular legs look better. Anyway, the smoothness preference has just shown up in the form of a Xmas gift from my wife's sister -an epilator. As printed on the package - "technology that gets personal."

Shaman

05-04-2009, 05:29 AM

" On a nude beach? Gays. Why? To attract attention. Why? Do you have to ask? It's not appropriate, akin to pulling out a vibrator in public. They are used to prolong sexual pleasure. They have no business in a nudist environment."

I have seen rings on finger and rings on toes on men and women. I have seen ear piercing on both men and women. Are they doing these things to attract attention? Does it mean they are "pulling out a vibrator in public" too? Or are they just wearing them because they like the looks of them. If one wears a ring ( akin to a finger ring, not a erection staying **** ring) around their penis does it mean they are are trying to attract attention to the penis or just trying to add to the body's beauty? If men wears a ring on their penis does it mean that they are gay? Can a striaght man wear one and if he does...does that make him gay? Assumptions The penis is just another body part...just as fingers and toes are...

nudepaulc

05-04-2009, 08:51 AM

Pumpkinpie

05-04-2009, 01:54 PM

I have friends with body piercing's they had before I knew them, I respect them and still friends with them nothing will change that, I love them all just the same with or with out piercing's or tattoos I have body piercing and a tattoo but not in private areas to chicken to do that lol. To each its own and what makes you happy so be it not every one have the same taste and likeness, my grand mother always use to say never never judge a book by its cover or how it looks until you read it and the same goes with me to.

nakenone

05-05-2009, 07:49 PM

I dont wear jewlry at all i think when growing up i got the idea it was a girl thing.As for pecker rings ,i tryed on a large ring with emerald green stone,just because amixed group of friends were joking around about it.It was heavy an pulled my pecker long,just to wierd ,i am not the exibit type personality.I like being myself,i have thioght over the years of getting a tatoo,i like the barbed wire arm band.I will be 60 this year maybe its time.I have friends that are major tatoo people,they like me an its a personal choice as it is with naturism. Nakenone:):)

bikerboy

06-04-2009, 04:16 PM

I guess after all this time I have to again get on my soap box. For those of you not old enough to know what that is, google it. lol

Anyways, does it matter who does what to thier own body?????? I don't think so. Whether a person has a piercing, tattoo or just want to wear a ring (wherever they wear it) does that change the personality of the person. Would you actually be afraid of talking to somebody if they were different. Last time I checked, we all bleed red. What is important here is following the rules of the resort, beach, party, or wherever you are at. To not follow the rules would make you and exhibitionist and not a naturist. Get to know the person and by all means, follow the rules and local customs. If the place you are visiting does not allow body jewlery, then take it off. If it does, than be proud and wear it. Heck, it may even spark up a conversation as to why somebody has done this or have the person that is not sure about it ask about it to know. After all, I think GI Joe said it best "Knowing is half the battle". Let us all get to know the person before we judge the person by there looks.

Pumpkinpie

06-04-2009, 07:56 PM

This is cool I like it nipples piercing but I won't do it for myself I don't like pain as far as the c-rings to each its own whatever makes you happy I will still respect you and be your friend still piercing's-tattoo-nose rings etc.

thestrokes44

07-04-2009, 11:57 AM

i dont think i can ever get jewlery haha im scared

Being-veggie-being

07-18-2009, 03:02 PM

The freedom to express oneself and make a statement - whether you have piercings / tattoos or adornments should be valued. If you choose not to have these then that too is your choice.

newddewd

07-20-2009, 02:54 AM

Not into piercings or tattoos but I do like to wear a genital ring. It feels like the penis/scrotum is getting a "hug". Perhaps it does draw some attention to that area of the body but not in a bad way.

sdson

07-20-2009, 05:02 AM

To each his (or her) own. When I think of any kind of body piercing the only thought that comes to mind is "Ow!"

arnatttan

07-20-2009, 10:04 PM

Not a fan of **** rings but do have a frenum piercing. Was recommended by ex gf, and now am used to it being present. It does seem to be a topic of conversation at nude beaches.

pelagius

12-16-2009, 04:48 AM

Archaewok1

12-17-2009, 07:57 AM

Im fine with the concept of genital jewerly and tattoos, and piercings (as long as the piercings dont damage the healthy function side of those body parts).

Though as far as penis rings go, I would have to say I would ban any penis ring that also normally doubled as a sexual enhancer. They can make rings that don't do that, and I would allow those. But anything that is standard for normally enhancing sexual function like that I would say is inappropriate, because it very well would likely be unintentionally causing those same benefits while being worn outside of sexual experiences.

jonnycompaq

12-17-2009, 02:46 PM

need to be careful at the airport

countryguy

12-17-2009, 08:21 PM

for c rings an dpiercings and tattos. i my self have 5 tattoos and i feel that tyey are a chioce of the person wanting them. as for c rings i have worn them anoff and on but not lately, i feel that he ring is an enhancer to my body, as for piercings my ear is pierced, i have frienda that have genitlal piercings and i thing it is fine to be able to spsort a pa or whatever you have pierced. wWe all hav our own thoughts on this and these are mine

kxi206

12-18-2009, 07:32 AM

Live and let live. Having said that, its true that many c***k rings have a sexual purpose and if one is "actively" being used in such a manner, it doesn't belong in a naturist environment. But beyond that, seems to me no harm no foul. If it makes someone feel good to wear one, it doesn't strike me as any different than jewelry on any other part of the body. If you don't like them, don't wear them.

PS-Don't the metal ones tend to get a bit hot in the sun? Ouch....

pelagius

12-27-2009, 01:09 AM

Difficult to see how to draw the line between one and the other. All kinds of things can be used as 'sexual enhancers' which are not intended to be so! I am unsure whether the glans ring I wear is a sexual enhancer or not these days, as I wear it to keep my foreskin retracted (and maybe some would see that in itself as a sexual act) but I usually remove it before having sex.

Though as far as penis rings go, I would have to say I would ban any penis ring that also normally doubled as a sexual enhancer. They can make rings that don't do that, and I would allow those. But anything that is standard for normally enhancing sexual function like that I would say is inappropriate, because it very well would likely be unintentionally causing those same benefits while being worn outside of sexual experiences.

yogaguy68

01-06-2010, 02:00 PM

I would say that if it doesn't pose a health hazard it's okay with me. What's wrong with accentuating a beautiful part of the body? What's wrong if it makes someone feel sexy or look sexy? Being nude is sexy.

Duneman

01-07-2010, 06:51 AM

I have a "frenum" piercing..... but actually I have never been pierced! I have always had a hole in my frenum following my circumcision as a kid.

I wore a barbell to our local c/o beach one year & all my friends said it looked great!
So I wear it regularly now.

nkdinto

01-13-2010, 04:35 PM

I have a little scrotum piercing and have only received compliments on the look. As long as ts in moderation think it can be attractive.

missyd

02-27-2010, 02:36 PM

I think it's kind of fun to see on guys. My husband has no interest but I've seen a few that I thought were pretty cool!

Nudesuncpl

03-11-2010, 01:57 PM

No piercings here! But I have a thin gold chain that loops around my penis just behind the coronal ridge. (You know the part I mean -- "behind the head." Anyway, a length of chain hangs down and ends in a charm that says "Ring my (cutout of a bell)." I call it my "Dingle Dangle," for obvious reasons -- it dangles from my dingle. When I put in on Saturday morning, my wife says it means I intend to be nude for the whole weekend. So she doesn't bother to get dressed either. It's amazing how the thing stays on: even in the pool, hot tub, or if I have to slip on pants (ugh!) for a quick trip to Publix (that's a supermarket for you Northerners). I say, "Hurrah for the Dingle Dangle!" No pain, no fuss, no permanency, and our nudist friends of the female gender say it's "cute."

Natureisone

06-30-2010, 02:41 AM

I have read everbodys views on penis rings and everybody has there own concept on the subject.I myself have tatto and a nipple pierced and find them nice on the human naked body.
I have just bought a penis ring silver plain 10mm wide doesnt stand out and i bought it because i like the look of it on my penis as jewellery not as a sexual device,its not tight on there so im not errect at all when i wear it, im flacid so i dont draw attention to myself while i wear it.
My wife loves the way it looks on me and believe me if she thought id brought it for a sexual reason to wear all the time she would ban me from any nudist events and beaches and clubs, she would not want to be seen with me wearing it for the wrong reason.
So there is my two cents worth, penis ring i wear not tight no errections and just for the wonderful look of it on my smooth body. I have attached a picture of my jewellery of choice to show you all it doesnt stand out and say hey look at me.
Thanks

sargento01

06-30-2010, 06:34 AM

I have a few rings, but never wear them to resorts, just at home. It protects the most sensitive area from sunburn. It can also help out in bed, which is why nudists don't like them.

Sampson01

06-30-2010, 07:51 AM

I have had a prince albert for about 5 years now. I have found if I kept the jewelry around a 8 gauge , people were very accepting. I went up to a 4 gauge and I felt bad vibes from people. I have now taken it out. Got older I guess.

Fuzzy444

07-06-2010, 07:45 PM

So, those that have piercing, please respond. Especially Pierce Alberts. Why did you do it, what was the pleasure of doing it, and how do you feel about it now? Absolutely no judgement; curiosity.

peggydon

07-23-2010, 05:04 PM

i had one for a long time maby 10 years.it gave my partner more pleasure then i changed it to a apadrava and it wa even better for her.it freaked my new wife out so there gone.

nudewoody

07-23-2010, 05:24 PM

Genital jewelry? Same reason one wears earrings or finger rings or toe rings. Genital piercing, same reason as ear piercing. Just like the decision to go naked, they aren't doing it for you, they are doing it for themselves. If they aren't having sex or being sexual, what harm is there?

peggydon

07-24-2010, 02:41 AM

cant agree more .it doesnt afect them so whats the differance

Natureisone

07-27-2010, 03:16 PM

baregardener

07-29-2010, 01:00 PM

i am shaved,have both nipples pierced,prince albert and three more piercings along shaft,tattoo over mons pubis and one other tattoo on right cheek(butt) reason for it?i wanted too! i have always liked the look of piercings on women and men as for nudist beaches and what people think,i dont give a damn,dont bother me and i wont bother you,as for a person not being shaved and pierced,well! that's up to them,surely they have other areas of land mass for them? lol oh! just a reminder,three score and ten years after that it's a bonus depending on your mental and physical state! that concerns me more than pierced or not nudists or their beaches!

Natureisone

03-23-2011, 03:28 PM

Duneman

11-05-2011, 02:36 AM

diablo blanco

11-05-2011, 01:41 PM

In our naturist world, isn't it also open to all kinds of body decorations, etc? Who has the right to decide what is acceptable or not? I find the range of decorations, tattoos, piercings etc, interesting and sometimes fun. I may not agree with some of them, but that is an individuals right.

I say to those who think piercings and rings are terrible, to lighten up, and just move on. (Of course individuals are entitled to their opinion, but individuals are also entitled to express themselves in any way they see fit, as long as they follow the usual rules of naturist etiquette.)

Just my thoughts.... Duneman

I totally agree Duneman, after all it is a sign of the times. If anyone looked back to ancient Egypt and such places, it was more common for the men to decorate and accessorize their bodies with piercings and paint, makeup etc., and in the animal kingdom, it is the males of the species that is the most attractive. So I say why not accessorize as you see fit.

NakedGary

10-03-2012, 08:49 AM

S.F. Nudist Becomes Tourist Attraction
http://sfist.com/attachments/SFist_Brock/nudist-posing-japanese-tourists-sfist.jpg
Look what we found while perusing World of Wonder today? It's a photo of one of S.F.'s most visible nudists (http://sfist.com/2010/07/22/this_is_why_people_hate_san_francis_1.php) — does he even have a job? a trust fund? — Lloyd, posing with some Japanese tourists at United Nations Plaza! As you can see from the NSFW uncensored shot (http://worldofwonder.net/posts/2011/11/10/big-in-japan/#more-16456), he's wearing a **** ring, but Dad there doesn't mind that it's dangerously close to his daughter! Because look everyone, it's a real live nudist in kooky San Francisco! Wait 'til we show grandma back home.
If you'd like an explanation about the **** ring usage, Lloyd himself gave one in this NSFW video interview on public access show My Naked Truth (http://blip.tv/politics-from-the-heart/my-naked-truth-rusty-and-lloyd-1670433). Also, please note, Lloyd supports Occupy SF (http://www.flickr.com/photos/travisjensensf/6332504608/) -- at least when it offers him an excuse to squat bareassed on a downtown sidewalk.
http://sfist.com/attachments/SFist_Jay/lloyd-nudist-occupy-sf.jpg
Photo: Travis Jensen (http://www.flickr.com/photos/travisjensensf/6332504608/sizes/z/in/photostream/)
[Top image via WOW (http://worldofwonder.net/posts/2011/11/10/big-in-japan/#more-16456)]
PREVIOUSLY: This Is Why People Hate San Francisco: Volume 2 (http://sfist.com/2010/07/22/this_is_why_people_hate_san_francis_1.php)
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By Jay Barmann (http://www.clothesfreeforum.com/profile/SFist_Jay) in News (http://www.clothesfreeforum.com/news) on November 10, 2011 1:00 PM

sdson

10-03-2012, 02:22 PM

NakedGary

10-03-2012, 09:39 PM

Quote by "sdson"
I agree, I've yet to see them in the so-called gay section of the beach.
I've actually noticed there is more male nudity in the straight section of the beach rather than the gay section"sdson" why have you brought these seven year old posts out of the closet, and brought up the gay issue or assumptions? When Moderator "Wired" said way back on 9-21-2005 7 years ago in this thread:

Mod "Wired" Post #17
Kirk: consider yourself on strike 2. Make one more statement about gay culture or sexuality and you willbe banned from this forum until further notice.
Kirk's comments are merely the latest in a series of sweeping generalizations he has made regarding the gay community. That's no longer going to fly here. This thread is about genital rings. If you like them, fine. If you dislike them, fine.

Leave sexual orientation out of it.Quote by "Skinny_dipper" Post #62

I do not have any tatoos or piercing, personally I don't see the point in them nor, like them. In saying that I have never read such a load of self righteous blatent bigotery, from so called naturists. Live and let live.

(post modified ercNY)

"sdson" this thread is about Male genital jewlry rings [That slide on or fit over the penis and scrotum] Not homosexual or hedrosexual issues or where they are seen, or what group or class of people use them.

The thread and assumptions have been on and off topic for 7 years, mostly years ago. Why bring it up again. I think the thread has been rung out years ago with not much new until the San Francisco proposed ban on penis rings in public was brought up a couple of days ago.

Should this thread remain open until the San Francisco issue on penis rings and public nudity is finalized or should this thread be closed to further posting and become a Read Only 7 year old Thread.

nakenone

10-04-2012, 03:47 PM

A GOOD ONE TO CLOSE,THERE IS A LOT THAT HAS BEEN SAID,,ABOUT THE PECKER RINGS,ABOUT THE GAYS ETC ,.RUNS THE COURSE FROM LIBERAL TO CONSERVATIVE. THERE IS OBJECTION TO PECKER RINGS AN OBJECTION TO GAYS--------.SO IT IS------OPINIONS THAT CONTRIBUTE TO THE SOCIAL CLIMATE .=== THE THREAT OF BANNING SOMEONE BECAUSE OF THERE OPINION ABOUT SOCIAL ISSUES IS CHILDISH COMMY ,UN AMERICAN...IT APPEARS THAT GAY AN OR PECKER RING WEARERS ARE SENSITIVE . IF YOU ARE A GAY POSTER SAY SO ,A RING WEARER SAY SO ,WE ARE HERE TO RESPECT YOUR DECISIONS AN YOU RESPECT OTHERS.. SO COME OUT OF THE CLOSET ,AN STOP YOR WINENING . TAKE THE GOOD WITH THE NOT SO GOOD ,,,,NAKENONE:jump::jump::jump::jump:

JohnE44

10-06-2012, 10:06 AM

for me i rather have and try a c ring allways thought they were interesting more so then a piercing just my thoughts thanks

plusboyplus

02-23-2013, 04:45 AM

A lot of people like to wear jewellery be it bracelet,neckless,rings etc..they look even better on a naked body..13771

Naturist Mark

02-23-2013, 05:09 AM

Does your penis jewelry make you feel pretty? Do you like to have people look at your genital decorations?

This isn't about nudism. It isn't about gay or straight. Not even good or bad. It is fashion, and at least a little bit exhibitionism - but not a thing to do with naturism.

Naturist Zoar

02-23-2013, 07:18 AM

Naturist Mark

02-24-2013, 01:31 AM

I agree Mark, the one spot we used to sunbathe and swim nude at, became frequented by a gentleman with about 25 rings and such on his penis. To avoid a lot of questions from my son and daughter (who were much younger at the time) I just stopped going there as a family. The purpose of jewelry, in itself , seems to be to draw attention to itself. Maybe it 's a personal issue for me since the whole thing just looked pretty painful.
but I still do wonder what kind of tan lines were made with all that going on.

That sounds pretty extreme. But don't get me wrong - I'm not saying a nudist can't wear genital jewelry, I'm just saying that such fashion choice has nothing to do with naturism. Same as other choices like shaving (I am still running into people who think that if you are a nudist you have to be shaved smooth - even so-called nudists).

It does sound like Naturist Zoar's example is a gentleman who has crossed the line into sexual fetish. But judge not, eh? Just don't call it naturism.