naturist writing [Archive] - ClothesFree Forum

Reg Barlow

09-23-2007, 06:51 AM

Hello everyone, first time poster here and from the other side of the pond to boot, so be gentle (LOL).

I enjoy reading, but if I want to read something that explorers naturism through fiction, invariably I find that "naturism" is being used as a euphemism for sex and bad sex at that. I can't even say it's good eroticism. Anywho, I digress. N magazine shows a SIG for writers but this seems to be in abeyance. I know of the Naturist Story Archive but nothing has happened with that in the last two years either, when it was apparently set up and attempts to make contact have come to naught. What kind of interest is there for something like this?

Reg

simonsebs

09-23-2007, 12:55 PM

http://www.nakedfiction.net/

This is a pretty good site to visit

richinoregon

09-23-2007, 08:24 PM

http://www.nakedfiction.net/

This is a pretty good site to visit

I disagree, most of the stories are what I call by committee, and most of the writing (not the stories) but just the writing is horrible; no quotes, sometimes no paragraphs to indicate different speakers, even changes in point of view mid paragraph. It caused me to start writing my own stories to prove to myself that I could write better than most of the posters there. I have an 85 page story which is 'complete' i.e. the story is complete but I think the beginning and especially the end are too weak. And I am working on another one (35 pages so far) which I think has the potential to get very large (I haven't figured how I'm going to end it). Both of them are Science Fiction stories. The first one follows a family in the Bible Belt when a biological experiment gets loose and makes it impossible for anyone to wear anything. The other one is a little harder to explain, but nudity of the main characters is essential to the plot line.

Please don't request me to post them, I think they are way too large to post.

GymFuzz

09-24-2007, 07:38 AM

N magazine shows a SIG for writers but this seems to be in abeyance.
Reg

Yeah, that would be me. I wasn't really getting enough interest in it to keep it going. I get much more interest elsewhere. Would you like to try doing something on this forum?

Jim

GymFuzz

09-24-2007, 07:39 AM

Would anyone be interested in getting together in Portland to work on some nudist fiction?

Jim

Reg Barlow

09-24-2007, 12:49 PM

…the writing is horrible….

I agree. I only read one short short story and that was enough. Sorry Simonsebs. I know British Naturism is trying to get their own SIG going (It was I who suggested it) and to be honest I don't know if that has had many enquiries either, but I hope to get an answer to that question soon. It is really beginning to look as if the whole idea of a naturist writers' circle or something similar is a non-starter, which is a pity since the only way to take the word naturism back from the porn merchants is to write some genuine fiction, plays for the theatre, radio and TV (Ok scrub the last one); poetry perhaps. Evan essays would do its bit; Mark Storey from TNS has done his bit there, why doesn't anyone write about the philosophy of naturism anymore? Too dry and boring!

Ok, may be I'm going way over people's heads here and if I am, I'm sorry. It just seems a shame to leave the word 'naturism' to those who want to use it as a euphemism for sex, or a quick way to get their characters naked and 'ready' for sex, which leaves those who have never encountered the reality before with a false impression. Possibly scare them off from trying it - naturism that is.

May be this needs thinking about. Any other thoughts?

simonsebs

09-24-2007, 08:39 PM

I'll admit some of the writing on that site is pretty terrible. But there are a handful of good writers on the site. The only defense I could give is that for some of the people on that site English isn't their first language. So they may not be familar with our form of grammar and punctuation. Now the people who are native English speakers have no excuse.

jandatxnude

09-25-2007, 07:33 AM

I agree that the writing may not be great, but the subjects are very interesting. There are some very interesting situations people have come up with for first time nude experiences, or having someone introduce nudism to a friend. I've contributed a couple of times to a story, and it's fun to take a situation, and move it along to see where it goes.

There was another site a few years ago that had some good stories. The best one was about a girl who got a summer job as a lifeguard, and the place she got was a nude beach. Not only was that a surprise, but the lifeguards went nude too. I'd love to find that story again.

Barefoot-n-Nude in Texas!

Reg Barlow

09-25-2007, 12:41 PM

The best one was about a girl who got a summer job as a lifeguard, and the place she got was a nude beach. Not only was that a surprise, but the lifeguards went nude too. I'd love to find that story again. Barefoot-n-Nude in Texas!

I think I know the one you mean and I'm sure it can be found on the Naturist Story Archive (sorry I daren't do a hyperlink just in case I loose this page!). It isn't bad, a bit over long perhaps, it at least did have an imaginative beginning even if it was a little implausible (for the UK at least). But why must the stories always be about someone's first time experience? What about someone who has no problem with nudity, theirs or someone else's, but don't call themselves naturist? Any clues!

GymFuzz

09-26-2007, 09:02 AM

Just write. If you think there should be more nudist writing out there, then write!

Jim

Reg Barlow

09-26-2007, 01:02 PM

Just write. If you think there should be more nudist writing out there, then write! Jim

Good advice and I'm working on it. But I like to plan what I write and it all takes time, that's why I thought it would be a good idea of have some kind of writers' circle for naturists so we could bounce ideas off each other, offer constructive criticism and thereby improve. Anybody else with me?

richinoregon

09-26-2007, 07:20 PM

Good advice and I'm working on it. But I like to plan what I write and it all takes time, that's why I thought it would be a good idea of have some kind of writers' circle for naturists so we could bounce ideas off each other, offer constructive criticism and thereby improve. Anybody else with me?

You're asking us to bare our souls!! :eek:

I think I will post my first story as soon as I can get my webspace home.comcast.net/~rich.in.oregon running. (I just started it and it takes a bit for it to be accessable)

SpiderThug

09-27-2007, 06:11 AM

I have recently started up a spot for some short nudist writings on open diary: http://www.opendiary.com/entrylist.asp?authorcode=D731198 or, just click on my signature which is the direct link.

GymFuzz

09-27-2007, 08:50 AM

Anybody else with me?

I am. If you want we can use my Yahoo group, "The Nudist Writer".

Jim

Reg Barlow

09-29-2007, 01:04 PM

SpiderThug

09-29-2007, 04:34 PM

I've had a look at your site "SpiderThug" and my only comment is corn yellow on grey doesn't make your text easy reading. Sorry. It pains me to say that because in everything but cricket, I'm an Australiaphile.

Yellow on grey? It should have been yellow writing on a background of a tree and lots of greenery.

nudebushwalker

09-30-2007, 12:31 AM

Reg Barlow

09-30-2007, 01:26 AM

You're asking us to bare our souls!!

I'm afraid so, but that is the only way we can improve as writers, create better fiction and show people a more truthful image of naturism.

Reg Barlow

09-30-2007, 01:32 AM

Yellow on grey?

Well, it looked yellow on grey to me. No offense meant.

Reg Barlow

09-30-2007, 01:35 AM

I am. If you want we can use my Yahoo group, "The Nudist Writer".

That might be a good idea Jim. Perhaps we can talk about it outside this thread?

Reg Barlow

09-30-2007, 01:46 AM

If all you people out there want to try a different type of 'nude fiction' - with no 'naturist' leanings, you could always revisit Edgar Rice Burroughs' Martian Chronicles (or 'Adventure' ?) series.

Didn't Malcolm Bradbury write the Martian Chronicles or is that the same title, different book! Anyway thanks for the tip, I'll have another look. Anyone interested could look up Yarns without threads that can be found at ywt.nuff.org.uk but I would really like to see some new fiction too.

NudePete

09-30-2007, 05:14 AM

Didn't Malcolm Bradbury write the Martian Chronicles or is that the same title, different book! Anyway thanks for the tip, I'll have another look. Anyone interested could look up Yarns without threads that can be found at ywt.nuff.org.uk but I would really like to see some new fiction too.

Ray Bradbury wrote Martian Chronicles in 1950. I don't remember any nudity in that however.

I understand that Edgar Rice Burroughs of Tarzan fame wrote his "Barsoom" series over the years 1912-43, (Barsoom being his name for Mars). Wikipedia ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barsoom ) says the natives have a preference for near nudity involving only jewelry and ubiquitous leather harnesses.

Jason Lee

09-30-2007, 05:41 AM

http://www.nakedfiction.net/

This is a pretty good site to visit

I read fact/true stories not fiction

nudist magazines

SpiderThug

09-30-2007, 06:09 AM

Well, it looked yellow on grey to me. No offense meant.

None taken. I've changed the background to make it easier to read.

nudebushwalker

09-30-2007, 09:47 AM

Ray Bradbury wrote Martian Chronicles in 1950. I don't remember any nudity in that however.

I understand that Edgar Rice Burroughs of Tarzan fame wrote his "Barsoom" series over the years 1912-43, (Barsoom being his name for Mars). Wikipedia ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barsoom ) says the natives have a preference for near nudity involving only jewelry and ubiquitous leather harnesses.

I have found the following list of titles, listed under Edgar Rice Burroughs 'Mars' series (rather than 'Martian', as I wrote earlier...):

Mars series

A PRINCESS OF MARS, 1917
THE GODS OF MARS, 1918
THE WARLORD OF MARS, 1919
THUVIA, MAID OF MARS, 1920
THE CHESSMEN OF MARS, 1922
THE MASTER MIND OF MARS, 1928
A FIGHTING MAN OF MARS, 1931
SWORDS OF MARS, 1936
SYNTHETIC MEN OF MARS, 1940
LLANA OF GATHOL, 1948
JOHN CARTER OF MARS, 1964

I read most of these novels while I was still at high school; (inbetween other SF authors - including Ray Bradbury (and his Martian Chronicles..), Robert Heinlen, Philip K. Dick, alas not much nudity in there..).
I remember John Carter's character always found himself nude when he was transported to Mars, and stayed (nearly and mostly..) nude whilst there (where most of the natives also preferred to stay nude as well..).

Reg Barlow

09-30-2007, 10:35 AM

I read fact/true stories not fiction - nudist magazines

Hmm… Then how do you relax Jason, use your imagination?

Trainfan

09-30-2007, 08:59 PM

I am. If you want we can use my Yahoo group, "The Nudist Writer".

Jim
Hi GymFuzz,
I too am interested in doing some nudist writing, but I couldn't find your group in Yahoo when I searched groups for "nudist writer". Can you point me in the "write" direction please? Thanks.

GymFuzz

10-01-2007, 07:59 AM

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/The_Nudist_Writer/

Trainfan

10-02-2007, 06:28 PM

Thanks Gymfuzz. I just joined, but it doesn't look like anyone has posted anything there recently. Guess I'll have to work on that. ;-)

Reg Barlow

10-08-2007, 01:32 PM

Thanks Gymfuzz. I just joined, but it doesn't look like anyone has posted anything there recently. Guess I'll have to work on that. ;-)

Same here. Looking to make a post in the next week or so. I see a nice number of views but is there no one else out there wanting to be the next JK Rowling? :-)

GymFuzz

10-09-2007, 07:37 AM

Yeah, I'm not sure exactly why it gets so quiet like this ...

Jim

ranul

10-09-2007, 05:03 PM

http://www.nakedfiction.net/

This is a pretty good site to visit

there are some people here that don't like this site
but think of it this way as large story circle where people are adding to each others stories now I would admit that we are not perfect writers . I feel it is the quality of the story over the quality of the writing that is what counts here .

it is also an improved version of this site
http://pub35.bravenet.com/forum/show.php?usernum=2965945252

GymFuzz

10-10-2007, 09:32 AM

I feel it is the quality of the story over the quality of the writing that is what counts here .

Meaning?

Jim

ranul

10-10-2007, 10:01 AM

I would rather have a good story that has spelling mistakes then a boring one with that is perfect grammer .

Reg Barlow

10-10-2007, 12:14 PM

it is also an improved version of this site
http://pub35.bravenet.com/forum/show.php?usernum=2965945252

Improved! How?

Reg Barlow

10-10-2007, 12:17 PM

Improved! How?

Sorry, scrub that. I mis-read the first quote.

richinoregon

10-10-2007, 02:11 PM

I would rather have a good story that has spelling mistakes then a boring one with that is perfect grammer .

When I have to stop reading the story to try to figure out what the writer is saying then I can't enjoy the story.

Bob S.

10-10-2007, 07:58 PM

I'll look into the sites this weekend. I, too, am a writer. Actually, to be more specific, I am addicted to writing.

I am actually interested in teens/young adult literature and in that, I am in the process (a long, long process) of writing a trio of stories about three young siblings (9-13) who discover nudism from friends.

Another story I have in my head (it is part of a series of fantasy books--the second I have planned and the first in a trilogy) where a teen boy and girl are transported to another world where no one wears clothes. The third story in the trilogy involves the boy's twin sister as well as the girl's best friend discovering their way to this world to save them--even if they don't want to be saved.

I actually finished reading a book a few months ago, "Deep Wizardry", meant for teens/YA (there are many of us who are over 18 out there who read those books) where the main characters, a 13-year-old girl and her 12-year-old friend (a boy) have some wizarding business under the sea and must change shapes--meaning they cannot wear their bathing suits into the water. It is interesting to watch as they go from being shy about disrobing near each other to a few days later, going outside, accompanied by her parents and sister, wearing only towels and then doffing them in front of them to go running out to the ocean together, naked.

Bob S.

richinoregon

10-11-2007, 01:21 PM

I got my web space finally working so here is my first contribution. As I've said before I think the beginning and end are a bit weak but I have put it on the shelf for a while, and am working on another.

http://home.comcast.net/~rich.in.oregon/The_London_Flu.htm

GymFuzz

10-11-2007, 10:59 PM

natul

10-12-2007, 02:39 AM

I got my web space finally working so here is my first contribution. As I've said before I think the beginning and end are a bit weak but I have put it on the shelf for a while, and am working on another.
I haven't reat it all yet, but I really likes what I have read so far. Good story. Looking forward to read the rest later. Keep up the good work!

richinoregon

10-12-2007, 08:08 PM

A good start! Nice imagination!

Jim

Thank you,
Rich

richinoregon

10-12-2007, 08:09 PM

Thank you for your comments

Reg Barlow

10-13-2007, 11:45 PM

I got my web space finally working so here is my first contribution.

Yeah, I can go along with what has been said so far. Nice use of your imagination but…. I guess you could hear that coming like a train. This isn't really the place for it, but let me explain where I think this story could be improved.

When I printed the story off (I'm old fashioned that way) it took up 90 pages of A4. Tinkering with the format in Word took it down to 70. It is a huge document and it suggests to me that you have some material in there that can come out. Like the long passages where you explain what is going on around the world, could you think of a way of cutting it down to just a paragraph or two each time? Are they really necessary?

What about the camp site scene? How did that carry the story forward? Could the character Diane be introduced in another way, earlier in the story so she appears to be less of an add on (because i think the point you make with that character later on is important).

I could go on, but you'll end up hating me (if you don't already) and throw your typewriter out of the window, vowing never to write again or something like that. But please don't do that. I think you have something, its just like many of us - myself include - we haven't found our true writing voice yet. You're doing the right thing though, putting it away for a week, longer if you feel like it, before looking at it again.

You know, if I was re-writing this story, I'd think along the lines of radio documentary. That's what I kept hearing as I read it.

Anyway, remember whatever I say here it could be a load of stuff and nonsense. It's your story so you write it so that it pleases you. Of course, when you do read it again, you may see what I'm saying.

Cheers!

Reinder

10-14-2007, 02:45 AM

I think RichinOregon's story was over-long and showed many problems common to fiction that advertisies itself as nudist or naturist. While Gymfuzz is right to say that Rich has a good imagination, he isn't using it properly, and as a result, the most interesting angles in his story are discarded in favour of boring, repetitive ones.

I'd give a full critique, but as that would take about an hour of my time, I'll only do that if and when I know it will be welcome. Do you want a critiqe, Rich?

As a quick, mnemonic note to myself, in my critique, I'd discuss Causes, Consequences, Characters and Communities, and offer Congratulations.

SpiderThug

10-14-2007, 05:46 AM

I'm glad I started my "Phantom Nudist" blog as it appears I have convinced to people to give a try. One wants to try at home first in his flat, another looking at trying it out swimming.

MrNaturist

10-25-2007, 04:54 AM

I am. If you want we can use my Yahoo group, "The Nudist Writer".

Jim

I just joined and added a file for those who carry to check it out and give comments.

simonsebs

01-12-2008, 03:14 PM

http://www.nakedfiction.net/

This is a pretty good site to visit

Well its been a few months and some improvements have been made. I want to see what everyone else thinks.

Matt H

01-12-2008, 10:25 PM

There was a good story I read awhile back and haven't been able to find since. I think it was called "Into the Wilderness". It was a full legnth story and followed a late teen girl who goes to the nudist resort that her Mom went to when she was younger as she had just graduated from school and was looking for meaning in life. Not to give too much away but the girl meets several guests who knew her Mom and she gradully learns how special she is and meets her father who is a Forest dweller with special powers.

If I recall, the stroy is written by an author who dedicated it to his late wife who was his inspiration.

If anyone can find the story or knows what I am talking about I would greatly appreciate the link.

naturistoftheyear

01-13-2008, 01:16 AM

Interesting to read about naturist fiction.

I'm writing my first thriller, and it includes one minor character who is a naturist.
I'm also writing a short crime story for a competition, with one of the main characters staging his disappearance at a naturist resort on the Mediterranean.

While unable to call my efforts naturist fiction, they present the lifestyle in a positive and unobtrusive way. Now of course I'm hoping those things get published.

lordshipmayhem

09-12-2008, 09:51 AM

http://www.nakedfiction.net/

This is a pretty good site to visit

Regrettably, about four months or so ago they apparently suffered a server crash. It's been resolving to a GoDaddy placeholder ever since, with all kinds of "sponsored links" that point to X-rated sites. Truly unfortunate from two aspects:
- it had some good stories on it
- the current ads only reinforce society's mistaken prejudice that nudity = sex.

I've tried to contact the webmaster, but gotten no reply. I can only assume that he's lost interest - or has no backup for the site and is too embarrassed to admit it.

I miss San Francesco - it was an excellent, promising, unfinished story.

Does anyone have any other site that people can practice their writing skills at, specifically with naturist or naturist-oriented fiction?

:(

simonsebs

09-12-2008, 01:24 PM

Does anyone have any other site that people can practice their writing skills at, specifically with naturist or naturist-oriented fiction?

:(

Naturist fiction (http://pub16.bravenet.com/forum/1358984636)

Yeah I decided to start a site after it looked like the old one wasn't coming back. Check it out, we'd love to have you.

lordshipmayhem

09-12-2008, 02:43 PM

Glad to see some familiar names.

The new site is quite the little cookie monster though: I lost track of the nubmer of ad sites that wanted to set one. >_<

I miss the old forum software. Maybe we can see about recreating that again! (I've never run such a site, so it'll be an experiment from Day One!)

Fat John

12-24-2008, 01:52 PM