Danish experiment

[johny]

http://www.speedbandits.dk/

There community bosses are experimenting with a speed limit road-signs. How - let look their clip.

[shãybare]

http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/cool4.gif
Amusing video. I do see the draw back of having traffic come to a stand still. The girls should not let that happen.

[luvnaturism]

Thanks for the video. I loved the attitudes that we found not just in Denmark, but throughout Scandinavia.

[gymnoboi]

I think its a great idea. Even more important than if it works or not,, I applaud a society where this can even happen.

[K and C]

Not likely to happen in the U.S. But I like the idea. Maybe one day sites like this one and Topfreedom will get The U.S. to this point but it looks like a long road ahead

[Pants off]

Originally posted by johny:
http://www.speedbandits.dk/

There community bosses are experimenting with a speed limit road-signs. How - let look their clip.

A novel way to slow/stop the traffic - I can't see it happening in Britain!

[Sauna]

I'm sure it works everywhere. Why not to use it then? Nice and fun idea. Who cares that traffic stops?

[Stu2630]

Come on, guys, wise up. This is just a gimmick. If anything, it could be dangerous as it distracts drivers. It'll be forgotten about within a week or two.

Stu

[NakedGary]

This works, especially when a motorcycle cop is near by. Several California cities use these new electronic sign active radar units to warn, and slow traffic.

http://www.radarsign.com/photos/34-MPH-b.jpg

LINK To Radar Signs (http://www.radarsign.com/products.htm)

[Bob S.]

It would be a bit of a distraction to certain drivers. That one guy slammed on his brakes. But I'd bet that if it were continued for a long time, the speeding problem would just come back. And it would be hard to continue into the winter.

And yes Stu, of course it is a gimmick. They are trying novel ways to get drivers to slow down.

Bob S.

[Jason Lee]

Radar Sign www.radarsign.com/documents/TC-500A-specs.pdf (http://www.radarsign.com/documents/TC-500A-specs.pdf)

Radar Unit
Sensor Range up to 600'
Accuracy +/- 1 mph
Detection Range 10-99 mph

[bnudes]

I think its a great idea. I noticed the only ones that seemed to have a problem with it were old people. Mostly what i liked wasn't just the actual experiment but the fact that its a country where it could even be tried. Why can't usa be more like denmark

[Stu2630]

And yes Stu, of course it is a gimmick. They are trying novel ways to get drivers to slow down.

But this is sexual. It reinforces the perception that women and their breasts are sexual playthings, exposing themselves in a sexual way to lustful male motorists. Some women would find that highly offensive. Sure, men will slow down to oggle at the breasts and then speed up again. Are these girls going to be there 24/7? How is it going to work in the middle of the Danish winter?

People driving too fast is a serious issue that needs a serious solution - to change drivers' behaviour. Gimmicks aren't going to solve anything.

Stu

[missouriboy]

Sexual?? Thanks, Stu, you have just given us a brand-new insight into your mindset, after all these months of same-old, same-old Stu.

It's not sexual at all to me. And I bet not to other nudists either. In fact, this is the second thread about that video clip, and not one comment about it has mentioned any connection with sex.

Your post demonstrates one more example of the difference between people who can separate nudity from sex, and those who cannot (or at least, do not, perhaps by choice).

[Toffer]

This is super cool! And you are right about not over here in America. there would be groups forming every hour saying their kids are being harmed for the rest of their lives because they saw a boob. Denmark rules. http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/applause.gif

[johny]

RE:""Several California cities use these new electronic sign active radar units to warn, and slow traffic.""

Garry, such device was introduced one place at Riga city around 1975, but due it extreme unefectiveness was destroyed around 1995. Often there was 80 instead of allowed 50 km/h, as soon as no a police equipage near the place.

At Sweden are number of places where radar authomatically make a photoshots of speeding cars and send then an authomatic bills. I was captured twice there (its easy to see it by red blinking), but never them identified what State I am from - just number plate not by a standard of Sweeds. However born Sweeds knows where that cameras are installed and those 100 meters goes at calm speed. Means even this is not a solution, but to make a REASONABLE speed limits instead of that nightmare designed just to irritate a drivers to milk them afterwards.

Thus, the weed are ethernal.

[Stu2630]

It's not sexual at all to me. And I bet not to other nudists either. In fact, this is the second thread about that video clip, and not one comment about it has mentioned any connection with sex.

Missouríboy

These are young, slim, conventionally attractive females - and they are exposing their breasts. The young men who were interviewed thought it was great. Why? Because they were being natural? Or they derived aesthetic pleasure from the female form? Perhaps that's why men like topless bars and strip clubs, or looking down a pretty girl's low-cut top - it's all about aesthetics! Convinced? No, neither am I. Of course nudists see things differently: that's inevitable. But like it or not heterosexual men lust after attractive young women and they are especially attracted to their breasts. The people who made this stunt know that and are exploiting it - and not for the aestheics!

Your post demonstrates one more example of the difference between people who can separate nudity from sex, and those who cannot (or at least, do not, perhaps by choice).

Well of course. The only time I eat roast goose is at Christmas, so I associate roast goose with that festive season. It's not that I can't separate it, it's that for me there is a clear Pavlovian association and it's an association I enjoy. The same applies to seeing opposite sex nudity. The only time most men see women naked is immediately prior to or during sex, or when the women in question is their sexual partner.

Stu

[johny]

[quote]: STU: for me there is a clear Pavlovian association. The only time most men see women naked is immediately prior to or during sex [quote]

Interesting idea. And sad generally true. So, THAT IS WHY we nudists should applaud any `desensitizing` a general public and blame contrary tendencies.

Otherhow, Pavlovian reflex will go deeper and deeper until will hit to such dramatic low-end as in Eastern Muslim cultures, where a certain priests had publicly said that women are self provocating men to rape them, if only open those damn black face-clothes, that men are able to see the "main Pavlovian relisher".

Hope never it will win here at Europe such crazy `Pavlovian` comedy, but to let not, we ought to stop thinking like You did at Your comment.

Just I believe that Human is not like a slobbery dog, unable to let `Sapiens` partition in HDD we are calling a Brain have a strong enough control over animal partition in us as a Divine Miracle Creations.

You are one of such Miracles as we all are. Keep Your mind at hands please, and concentrate on a Human mission: to not degrade toward Pavlovian level himself, and save as much people around he is able for, from such low end. Instead of pushing them into abyss as You offer.

[tinner666]

http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/laugh.gif The sexy boob issue! http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/laugh.gif

I've been in topless bars and thought they were boring and sexist. I've seen porn and gotten a few laughs, but was mostly bored. http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/zzz.gif


I've met nudist that I couldn't reconize with clothing on, and often as not, the female will lift her top up or even off. http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/laugh.gif I would reconize them then because of the nudity, not the breast. http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/zzz.gif

We nudists see the naked body so much, there is no 'sexual' reaction as such. I fail to see something sexy about a woman on a lounger reading a book, even if it was Halle Berry, for instance.

I'm trying, in a round-about way to say that nudity does NOT promote sexual activity, or responses. A sign, or naked woman wouldn't distract 90% of the people on this board. ( The link doesn't feed on my puter, so I'm guessing here.)
The only distraction would be in the back of our mind, wondering if public nudity had finally been approved everywhere. http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/happy.gif

[Sauna]

Originally posted by johny:
RE:""Several California cities use these new electronic sign active radar units to warn, and slow traffic.""

Garry, such device was introduced one place at Riga city around 1975, but due it extreme unefectiveness was destroyed around 1995. Often there was 80 instead of allowed 50 km/h, as soon as no a police equipage near the place.

At Sweden are number of places where radar authomatically make a photoshots of speeding cars and send then an authomatic bills. I was captured twice there (its easy to see it by red blinking), but never them identified what State I am from - just number plate not by a standard of Sweeds. However born Sweeds knows where that cameras are installed and those 100 meters goes at calm speed. Means even this is not a solution, but to make a REASONABLE speed limits instead of that nightmare designed just to irritate a drivers to milk them afterwards.

Thus, the weed are ethernal.

If you do not know those cameras are registered in car navigators and they warn by voice signal in adwance you.

[Pete Knight]

Originally posted by Stu2630:
But this is sexual. It reinforces the perception that women and their breasts are sexual playthings, exposing themselves in a sexual way to lustful male motorists. Some women would find that highly offensive. Sure, men will slow down to oggle at the breasts and then speed up again. Are these girls going to be there 24/7? How is it going to work in the middle of the Danish winter?

Stu

Yes Stu, you are absolutely right, it is sexual to a confirmed textile such as yourself, but were you a convert to naturism you would understand it from our point of view.
It was suggested once that sexuality was desensitized for naturists and we couldn't get as much pleasure as a textile, but how wrong there were.

We are normal, we like to see a pretty young lady, but we are mature enough not to become animals and whoop cheer and drool at the sight of a pair of boobs, after all, we see all shapes and sizes on a regular basis, so in that respect I think that naturism is good for humanity.

If it became normal for girls to walk the streets top free in summer this gimmick wouldn't work would it?

Pete Knight

[Daveinct]

Seems to me that it's just a promotional film made to draw attention to signs and the speed limits. Got that impression from clicking on the "about" link and reading the information presented, instead of just assuming that they're actually trying to use these women to slow down traffic. Doesn't look to me like it's happening there, either.

Dave

[johny]

Dave in CT:
May it is so. My home comp have no a speakers so I cant hear what them are speaking about. But the context I brought from one our local news site. If translator mistranslated - okay, that is not a first case. However the idea itself isnt bad, does it?

[richinoregon]

Originally posted by Daveinct:
Seems to me that it's just a promotional film made to draw attention to signs and the speed limits. Got that impression from clicking on the "about" link and reading the information presented, instead of just assuming that they're actually trying to use these women to slow down traffic. Doesn't look to me like it's happening there, either.

Dave

I believe you are right. Here is a BBC article which confirms your suspicions: "Danish ad makes road safety sexy" (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6181788.stm)

Also if you will click on the about link below the movie you will see that it was produced by the Danish Road Safety Council.

[missouriboy]

...like it or not heterosexual men lust after attractive young women and they are especially attracted to their breasts. The people who made this stunt know that and are exploiting it - and not for the aestheics! The lusting is not a natural response, but a societally manufactured condition, wherein society has been so long deprived of normal visual experience that it's now become shocking to all those who haven't yet seen the condition for what it is -- and continue to fall for it. Yes, the operators of that gimmick are exploiting the status quo, and the goody-goody protestors only perpetuate the artificial condition that makes it exploitable.

Heed what johny said about it -- he has it nailed. Humans are able to rise above the lust and shame that seems to control the majority, if given the chance.

[Stu2630]

Missouri

Yes, the operators of that gimmick are exploiting the status quo, and the goody-goody protestors only perpetuate the artificial condition that makes it exploitable.

I may have agreed with you if they had used a cross section of people of both sexes, various ages, fat people, skinny people, people with deformities and downright ugly people, but they didn't. They used gorgeous blond-haired babes. Surely it is the people who dreamed up this stunt who are perpetuating what you regard as the artificial condition that enables the exploitation of women's breasts. They are not presenting this feature as a normal part of human anatomy - they are saying "hey! get an eyeful of this, guys!" In short, they used sex, and it was the exposure of the breasts which emphasised the sexuality.

Heed what johny said about it -- he has it nailed. Humans are able to rise above the lust and shame that seems to control the majority, if given the chance.

Oh, sure! The guys who were hooting and cheering these girls had obviously taken that on board - raising themselves above the lust. Or maybe not!!!! http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/wink3.gif

Stu

[nacktman]

It looks to be a promo spot for speed limits awareness, too bad, for as MoBoy noted the "shock" factor would be of use in helping reduce the "shock" factor in the future.

Alas, we'll not see the like in a downtown area here in the states for it would be too "shocking".

Leave us all work for the day when the fact that a woman waving a speed limit sign topless is only notable for the fact she is waving a speed limit sign not the fact she is sans blouse.

[David77]

raising themselves above the lust. Or maybe not!!!!
There is no need to rise above lust, but instead, "love lust, lustfulness" and accept it as part of nature's good endowment. It is a myth that lust is evil.

[Stu2630]

It is a myth that lust is evil. ´

Ain't that the truth!

Stu

[Boreas]

I agree with Stu on this one. I think this is a gimmick aimed at using the sexualized nature of women's breasts and bodies to get men to slow down. Clearly, with the women they are using, they are aiming at male speeders. Or perhaps only men speed in Demark? http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/wink3.gif

I also agree that if they had used a cross-section of the population in this it would not be playing on the sexuality of the women involved.

I think this is a cute gimmick for a short time. It sure would not work if nudity were more the norm.

BTW, it is NOT something that would fly today in my part of the world. It is currently -30C with a wind chill of minus forty-something.
http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/shocked.gif

[Nu]

Originally posted by Still_Boreas:
BTW, it is NOT something that would fly today in my part of the world. It is currently -30C with a wind chill of minus forty-something.
http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/shocked.gif

Brr, you have my sympathy, Still_Boreas.

In terms of the experiment, everyone consider this:

If successful, speed is reduced, lives are saved.
With the slow traffic, drivers could well be distracted, but the worst that could happen,are minor injuries and vehicle damage.
Would you rather death or injury?

Agreeably, a cross section of people holding the sign would be better.

[florida-david]

my dad and i have decided the women should come to south florida (his street or mine) and slow down drivers. it is nice and warm here. They can winter here, and summer in Europe.

sexual exploitation or not, those women are gorgeous and will slow traffic no matter where they are.....