Skinny-dippers win right to bare all at B.C. wave pool

[NakedGary]

Skinny-dippers win right to bare all at B.C. wave pool:

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2007/11/09/bc-wavenudists.html

[Jason Lee]

The city has 30 days to appeal Judge Paul Williamson's decision

[Nude in the North]

Why is it that everytime someone complains about a harmless activity , done by willing participants, The local government caves and passes a law against it.

When will Lawmakers get some backbone and learn to say, Freedom is more important than anything.
Every special interest group that gets a law passed like this to support their interest is taking away the rights of others. And eventually it will come around to bite them in the behind.
Soon there will be so many laws against everything, that there will be nothing left for anyone to do, except sit fully dressed in their living rooms watching Government approved programming on TV.

Relax America. Keep Freedom at the top of the list.

[Fitz1980]

Trying to claim that clean bathing attire is required for health is ridiculous. I've seen people try to say that swimming in a pool where someone else's naked butt or what have you is gross. But even in a swimsuit the water still touches everything. That's how a swim suit works the water flows freely; it's not a dry suit like James Bond would wear under water so as not to get water on his tuxedo wet when crashing a fancy dock side party. It's a swim suit and half the time it's the dirt on the suit, not the people, that makes the water dirty.

[Naturist Mark]

It's a swim suit and half the time it's the dirt on the suit, not the people, that makes the water dirty.

Wrong,

dirt on the swim suit is more like 90% of the visible contaminants in a pool. Sweat (which is actually fairly clean), deodorants and sun lotions come from the bodies - equally from clothed and skinny dippers.

A skinny dipping only pool or hot tub stays MUCH cleaner. Ask anyone who regularly cleans both.

-Mark

[Bob S.]

If they want clean bathing attire, take a shower. You can't get any cleaner than that. And without the cumbersome swimsuit, which may still have dirt or even soap residue on it, you are cleaner.

Bob S.

[Stu2630]

I don't buy this. I only ever swim in a freshly-laundered swimsuit which has been rinsed in fresh, scalding-hot water at the end of the wash-cycle.

If there is a problem with dirt on swimsuits, that's due to people being unhygienic and not washing those garments thoroughly first. The only thing my swimsuit would shed in the water would be a few microscopic fibres - but then I expect nudists shed a few of those too - from their public areas.

Stu

[paul1961]

Stu,

"The only thing my swimsuit would shed in the water would be a few microscopic fibres"

From personal experience (we have a hot tub), I can tell you that the spin/rinse cycle leaves a lot of soap behind. A single suit can put a frothy foam across the surface. I have an anti-foam solution that is needed to suppress the bubbles.

As a hot tub owner, I swear to you, it is much easier to maintain when no suits are worn.

Paul

[Stu2630]

As a hot tub owner, I swear to you, it is much easier to maintain when no suits are worn.

Paul - OK, I don't have a hot-tub so I can accept that. Having owned a swimming pool, I can't say that I noticed much residue from our swimwear in the filters.

Stu

[luvnaturism]

We own both a pool and hot tub. The effects of swimsuits are much more noticeable in the hot tub because the amount of water per person is so much less, plus in a hot tub the hot water is especially effective at activating the detergent in the swimsuits. Nevertheless, when we have a party here with lots of people in the pool, it's always necessary to pay special attention to cleaning up the pool.

Our hot tub is used 95% of the time without clothes. The water is easy to keep clean, and requires only minimal sanitizer (keeping in the mind that hot tubs by their nature require more than a pool). On those few occasions when people are in it with swimsuits we always get suds that have to be suppressed chemically. If they were in it very much, the hot tub will need to be s-h-o-c-k-e-d to restore water quality. [I'm not being funny with the hyphens; when I wrote the word normally the program replaced the word with a smiley face expressing the emotion]

The system that the Japanese traditionally use is best of all for keeping the water clean: they shower first, soaping and rinsing three or four times before entering the water nude.

Next best is to leave the swimwear behind.

Worse of all for cleanliness is to wear your suit into the water. As has been pointed out above, suits often aren't that clean anyway (yours may be, but not those worn by others) and they always contain detergents. Even brand new never-been-worn-before suits seem to have some detergent.

[Bob S.]

Stu, unless you wear a wetsuit that seals all water from the body and all body parts from the water, both skinny-dippers and suit wearers will shed the same amount of particulates from the skin. The difference comes with the fabric of the swimsuit. It will also seep soapy residue, fibers, and other material into the pool water. Basically the more clothing you have on, the more you put into the water. Naked, you take the clothing factor out of the equation.

Bob

[Skinview]

I don't buy this. I only ever swim in a freshly-laundered swimsuit which has been rinsed in fresh, scalding-hot water at the end of the wash-cycle.

What brand of washing machine is that? Over here in the US, almost all washing machines rinse in cold water, a few have a warm water rinse option, and none have a hot water rinse.

[walter05]

I want to help you prove your point.

Since you have only swam in a swimsuit in your pool, you can't compare the amount of dirt with swimming nude.

Since I know you are scientifically inclined, I offer the following test:

1) Clean the pool thoroughly.

2) Swim in the pool in a swimsuit.

3) Check the pool for dirt, etc.

4) Clean the pool thoroughly.

5) Swim in the pool nude.

6) Check the pool for dirt, etc.

When you have completed this experiment, you will know.

P.S. You may need to repeat the experiment a few times to see if the results are reproducable or an anamoly.

[Stu2630]

BobS

OK. I don't doubt what you say - I was making the point that when I had a pool I had very little fabric debris in the filters. It was usually vegetable matter like leaves, and dead bugs, plus a fair amount of human hair.

Skinview

Over here, quite a few of the bigger washing machines offer what they call a "sanitizing rinse". We have a large, professional washing machine that's actually designed for hospital laundries. It offers a "hot rinse cycle", which I believe is 60 degrees.
:laundry:

Walter

Unfortunately, we no longer own the house that had the pool. Besides, do you really think that I could EVER swim naked? Even the thought of it makes me shudder! Ewwwww...:no:

Stu

[walter05]

I was kidding!!! :laugh: