Nude Sunbathers At Federal Beach In Central Fla. Face Fines, Possible Jail

[simonsebs]

Nude Sunbathers At Federal Beach In Central Fla. Face Fines, Possible Jail (http://www.local6.com/news/14756778/detail.html)

Don't know what to really say about this. Hopefully things will get worked out without any problems.

[Stu2630]

The recent complaints from tourists and locals indicate that there are a large number of naturists sitting closer to the public crossover, making a meeting more likely, North Precinct Cmdr. Jimmy Donn said

Proving that problems start to occur when segregation rules begin to be ignored.

Stu

[Sanslines]

Proving that problems start to occur when segregation rules begin to be ignored.

Stu


Yes this type of behavior is absolutely intolerable. The police should send in a special assault team and bring those darn nudists out in shackles. The judge who hears the case should send those nudists to a federal prison for 25 to life. That will show those nudists who is really in charge!

Seriously, Playalinda is a very nice and friendly beach. The vast majority of nudists are respectful. The first step to resolve any problems or confrontations is for the police to stop with the damn threats of fines and jail time. The second step is to work with the naturist groups who frequent the beach and come up with solutions to improve signage at the beach so that the textiles have no chance of saying that they stumbled upon a nudist beach and are subsequently offended. The third step is to designate the far portion of that beach as a legal clothing optional beach, properly signage it, and then leave the nudists alone!

[Stu2630]

Yes this type of behavior is absolutely intolerable. The police should send in a special assault team and bring those darn nudists out in shackles.No. Just a clear barrier between those who want to be nude and those who don't and as you suggest, clear warning signs indicating the risk of seeing nakedness.

This is respected by both sides and everybody is happy.

Stu

[Sanslines]

No. Just a clear barrier between those who want to be nude and those who don't and as you suggest, clear warning signs indicating the risk of seeing nakedness.

This is respected by both sides and everybody is happy.

Stu


Just to let you know, the clothing optional section is at the far north end and is part of the Canaveral National Seashore. It is on federal property. This beach is fairly isolated as you can walk easily for 10 miles to the north and not encounter anyone else until you get up to Apollo beach. The south end is already clearly signed. There are literally miles of textiles beaches before a person reaches the last parking lot and the clothing optional beach. What I am basically saying is that this beach is already isolated, is clearly sign posted, and yet the sheriffs still come in on random basis to harass and ticket the nude sunbathers. It is clearly abuse and intolerance towards those who wish to sunbathe nude and this has been going on for years (on and off). This problem can be resolved very easily if better signage were used that clearly indicates the end of the clothing optional section and that violaters will be ticketed for crossing the line nude. By far most people would respect that. However, this is NOT the case as the sheriff's department is against any nude use of that beach and will actually come onto the clothing optional section and demand that people get dressed. Until that beach is officially designated as a clothing optional beach where people are legally entitled to be nude and are legally protected from law enforcement abuses, the nudists will continue to suffer.

[Stu2630]

Sanslines

Yes, I agree with you, that does seem unfair.

Stu

[Nudeinbama]

It seems no one is complaining of the nudity except the law enforcement, wheres the justice in that. they should be there to keep all the people happy and safe all the time, or as much as possible, not making it rougher on some, the nudist, just because its not legally on the books or marked as legal for nude use.:disappointed:
nudeinbama

[Sanslines]

Nudity At Playalinda Before And After The Law

Playalinda Beach...... (before!)


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Then came the RRR (which is similar to the KKK, only much more widespread!)


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[Sanslines]

Playalinda Beach

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Playalinda's nudity is well known: Some come because its a regular habit. Others come because they've heard about it. What have they heard? That Playalinda beach is one of Florida's few nude beaches. They heard correctly. Playalinda is located within the Cape Canaveral National Seashore and is a federally owned beach. Whether by word of mouth or force of habit, this remote stretch of beach is well known as a nude beach.

Location, location, location: The four miles of road that follows the beach for four miles gives out at the north end of Lot 13 and north of dune crossover 13B is where the fun really begins. On one side you have fishermen wearing straw hats and most are clad from head to toe in jeans and t-shirts. On the other, you have people who aren't wearing a stitch of clothing – happily baring everything with nothing left to the imagination.
Will I be offended?: Over a mile of sand you will see naked people tanning areas that normally don't see the light of day. In Foghorn Outdoors' Florida Beaches, authors, Parke Puterbaugh and Alan Bisbort, report that a typical Saturday at the beach was statistically populated by approximately 100 people – 80% men and 20% women – including gay men, true naturists and heterosexual couples.
You pretty much have to go out of your way to be offended, but if such activities typically offend you, don't go.

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Is it legal?: Information presented on this page does not mean that Florida law allows nudity in public places. There is a Brevard County ordinance against nudity on the books, but it goes largely unenforced. (It is actually haphazardly enforced)
Directions: From Interstate 95, take State Road 406 exit at Titusville. After crossing the Indian River, take a right fork onto State Road 402 and continue east to the beach. From Cocoa Beach, take Highway A1A north to State Road 528 and go west to State Road 3 and follow it north to State Road 402, then turn east (right) and proceed to the beach.

Parking: Parking is $5.00 per vehicle, per day, to enter Cape Canaveral National Seashore.
Hours: Hours for the Cape Canaveral National Seashore is 6:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m.
Facilities: Facilities are limited to rest rooms and a visitor center.

[Sanslines]

Playalinda Beach, Florida

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Playalinda - Pretty Beach


Playalinda Beach is a beach located on Florida (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida)'s east coast in Canaveral National Seashore (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canaveral_National_Seashore). When translated from Spanish, Playa linda is "pretty beach". The beach is open to the public daily between 6:00 am to 6:00 pm in the winter and 6:00 am to 8:00 pm in the summer. Access to the beach may be closed periodically (https://cms.ser.nps.gov/cana/planyourvisit/park-closure-notices.htm) in preparation for Space Shuttle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle) or other rocket launches.
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Surfing at Spot 5


Playalinda is also know for its surfing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surfing) spots, typically parking spots 1, 3, 4, 5 and 6. On good days the outside break works well and you can have long rides. Most days it's a beach break with quick closeouts.
Make sure you bring your own supplies, there are no stores at Playalinda, though each parking spot does have bathroom facilities and trash areas to help with recycling, trash, bottles, cans. For most of the year there is no lifeguard, during the summer months there is just one lifeguard. There is a cost to get onto the beach, you can buy an annual pass, or pay per person to get in. Bring your camera, you can get close-up pictures of the Space Shuttle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle) launch pads. Plenty of pull off areas on the way to the beach.
You can get to Playlinda from Titusville, Florida (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titusville%2C_Florida) by taking State Road 406 to the Max Brewer (http://www.maxbrewerbridge.com/) draw bridge, following the road veering to the right to the main entrance into the park.
There has been a long a history of a legal disputes at Playalinda Beach over nudists (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nudism) using the beach. Of the four miles of road that follows the beach, the northern most parking area is where nudist activity regularly occurs.

Park Fees

Daily Use Fee: $3.00 per person (children under age 16 are admitted free)
Annual Park Pass: $35.00
Individuals on foot or bicycle; $3.00 per day

Effective January 1, 2008, the National Park Service at Canaveral National Seashore will adopt the National entrance fee (http://www.nps.gov/cana/planyourvisit/feesandreservations.htm) pricing structure by charging a $7.00 per person entrance fee at the Seashore. The last fee structure change was in January 2006.

Geography
Playalinda Beach is on a barrier Island separate from the mainland by the Indian River. The first parking spot is roughly located at 28°39′53″N, 80°38′21″W (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?pagename=Playalinda_Beach%2C_Florida&params=28_39_53_N_80_38_21_W_city) (28.664722,-80.639167). Canaveral National Seashore's 24 miles of shoreline is the longest stretch of undeveloped public beach on the east coast of Florida. The stretch of drivable beach is just over 4 miles.
The barrier island is a thin ribbon of sand lying between the ocean and Mosquito Lagoon. In some places it is no more than 100 yards wide. Unlike many barrier islands with primary and secondary dunes, Playalinda has only a single dune, The island provides an important buffer against tropical storms and hurricanes, absorbing the initial brunt of wind and waves. <SUP>1</SUP> (http://www.nps.gov/cana/naturescience/upload/Coast%20&%20Shorelines.pdf)

[BinCo]

I went there 20+ years ago. It was a nice beach.

With only a few thousand miles of Florida coastline available to everyone it only seems to make sense that a few loudmouths want to drive out us naturists from the few miles we have.:rolleyes:

Freedom does not mean the same thing to everyone.

[boatsteve]

What I am basically saying is that this beach is already isolated, is clearly sign posted, and yet the sheriffs still come in on random basis to harass and ticket the nude sunbathers. It is clearly abuse and intolerance towards those who wish to sunbathe nude and this has been going on for years (on and off). This problem can be resolved very easily if better signage were used that clearly indicates the end of the clothing optional section and that violaters will be ticketed for crossing the line nude. By far most people would respect that. However, this is NOT the case as the sheriff's department is against any nude use of that beach and will actually come onto the clothing optional section and demand that people get dressed. Until that beach is officially designated as a clothing optional beach where people are legally entitled to be nude and are legally protected from law enforcement abuses, the nudists will continue to suffer.

Playalinda does not have signs showing that there is a nude beach. The only signs are those saying that nudity is not legal. The Naturist Society has tried to get signs up for very many years now. Indeed, using signs would solve the whole problem which means the park itself, by refusing to put those signs up have caused the complaints, and not the nudists.

Note that there has been only one single complaint about nudity in the last two years. The story says incidents of complaints has risen in August but they don't tell you that to show an increase you'd only need two complaints. First step is to find out who is complaining because it's possible the complaints were orchestrated intentionally since the problems began only after a new Superintendent was assigned to the park.

Also note that the agreement between nudists and the park for nude use of Apollo Beach in the same park has expired and the higher ups don't seem interested in renewing it.

The beach has seen nude use for more than 60 years and I've been an occasional visitor for 25 years now. It's not like nude people just all of a sudden popped up there.

The Naturist Action Committee has been aware of mounting problems there since summer thanks to a local noticing posts in several places online about the police playing mind games and have met with the officials once already.

It seems that the only solution now is to allow a few to get those tickets or get arrested so we can fight this through the court system. If NAC would bail me out I'd do it!

[Sanslines]

Playalinda does not have signs showing that there is a nude beach.

I believe that it was the Central Florida Naturists group that would place a sign on the south end of the beach to warn nudists not to go any further south. Perhaps this practice has been eliminated or discontinued at least over the Winter months when there is very minimal use of the beach as compared to Summer. At one time, there was also a permanent sign to warn nudists as to the south end limit of the clothing optional part of the beach but that sign might be long gone?

[Sanslines]

From Central Florida Naturists Blogs:

Wednesday, September 19, 2007

Rogue Snap-Happy Ranger Last Saturday, 2007.09.15 (http://playalinda.blogspot.com/2007/09/rogue-snap-happy-ranger-last-saturday.html)


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On Saturday, September 15 a Ranger Marble was reported to be running his Mule truck up to naturists and snapping pictures of them in the nude at very close range.

This behavior in a federal employee - harassing tourists in this way - is bizarre and inappropriate. Unfortunately this and other rogue ranger behaviors remind me all too much of how it was when Wendell Simpson ran the park. What it is about naturists that drives these people nuts, after 9 years of peace. So its the bad old days back again. However even with Simpson I don't recall this kind of in-your-face aggression as we are getting with Clark.

I have sent a complaint and a picture to the Canaveral National Seashore. Hopefully they will stop this particular harassment behavior. They would have to be crazy to allow it.

[Sanslines]

Sunday, September 16, 2007

latest info (http://playalinda.blogspot.com/2007/09/latest-info.html)


On sat 15th, there were two visits from brevard county sheriffs dept. Both times consisted of one officer driving to parking lot #13, walking to the top of the crossover, viewing no one nude and returning to his beat 30 + miles away. I think the brevard county taxpayer would be pissed off if they really knew how the sheriff chooses to spend $$$. The NPS ranger that some refer to as mini me came out to crossover 13 and took pictures of the sunbathers north just before the afternoon visit, I guess to show the deputy that when he's not there, nude sunbathers are. Hopefully the sheriff will see through this latest attempt by the National Park Service to rid nude recreation from the seashore, and tell the NPS to do it on their own powers, finances, etc and leave him alone. Smart move on his part for re-election next time around.

[justnude]

This is really upsetting. We have family who live in the Coca Beach area and visit there from AZ at least two times a year. Our family has been enjoying the Playalinda beach for nearly 25 years now. Often, we must park in the next to the last parking area and hike back (nearly a mile?) because of the relativley small number of parking spaces. My point here is that you need to go out of your way to reach this section of beach passing nearly 5 miles of beautiful and uncrowded textile beach areas. Therefore, you are either going to this beach to enjoy the nude fredom or else to look at naked people simply enjoying themselves with family and friends. There is an "unofficial" couples/family section closet to the walkway and paking ares. Futher up the beach you tend to find singles (mostly male) or couples. Again, my point is that you really have to go very far out of your way to reach these sections. If indeed the "problem" is that the nudists are too close to the walkway, perhaps the rangers could simply ask the nudist to move futher up the beach. On one of our trips when we had my grandparents with us we were close to the walkway and the rangers did just that. We moved and that was the end of the story. Lets hope rational minds prevail here as this is a wonderful beach to enjoy.

[Sanslines]

In my experiences at Playalinda, I have found the beach to be occupied by very friendly and relaxed naturists who come to this particular beach to be nude. Since the only other beach is Haulover which is far down to the south in Miami, and is not a practical day trip for many in the Orlando - Melbourne metroplex areas, this beach is the only choice. The only real solution to stop and prevent the Brevard County Sheriff's Department from periodically ticketing and arresting naturists to prove the point that nudity is NOT allowed in Brevard County is to change the law. Playalinda must be made an official nude beach with legal protections for those who chose to go there and be nude. Playalinda is a perfect beach for nudists as it is isolated, hard to get to, and with proper signage can be made such that no textile could posible stumble onto that beach and be offended by nudists. It is going to be up to the concerned nudists who frequent that beach to work to change the law. Anything short of changing the law to reflect the nude use of Playalinda will only result in the possibility of periodic and continued sheriff's harrasment of the naturists.

[justnude]

I know that when the shuttle is scheduled to launch or land, Playalinda is closed-not just the nude area but the entire seashore . When this happens, we take an hour drive north and go to Apollo Beach which is actually the northern portion of the same seashore cut by the space center (I think?). This is located in a different Florida county that apparently is not as anxious to bother with the nudists.

[rone]

I was at Apollo this year and found it perfect. Absolutely no issues. I had a very nice, long(nude) walk on the beach.

[Nativenude]

The whole problem in a nutshell is we now have to many control freaks sticking their nose in everyone else’s business on all levels of our lives. They do not care if nudists are or are not a problem for they simply believe we are. Playalinda is so remote that no one stumbles onto that beach, you have to hunt to find it. Those going there complaining of nudists have gone there for the sole purpose of complaining. This whole mess should never even be an issue since playalinda is federal land but those in charge would rather allow the county to go in and ticket nudists rather than tell them they have no jurisdiction on those federal lands.

The more rights we willingly give up or allow others to take away will soon leave us with no rights at all.

[NakedGary]

WTSP - Tampa Bay's 10 News - Tampa / St. Petersburg

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Nude sunbathers face fines at popular beach

Playalinda Beach, Florida - Nudists are risking more than a sunburn on a popular stretch of Playalinda Beach.

The Brevard County Sheriff's Office is warning beachgoers to keep their swim trunks on, or face possible fines or even arrests for breaking a city ordinance on public nudity.

A popular stretch of the federal beach has earned a reputation for being clothing optional. But officials say nude sunbathers are violating a city ordinance passed in 1995.

The sheriff's office says complaints about nudity at a remote beach access point have picked up since August, indicating that more sunbathers are baring it all closer to other beachgoers wearing more than just sunblock.
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[Sanslines]

What I would like to know is where are all of these textiles who are complaining about nude sunbathers? The nude beach is the last beach in this part of the Canaveral National Seashore. Parking lot 13 is the last parking lot. In order to get to this beach, a person has to drive at least 4 or 5 miles along numerous textile beaches. Why is this such an issue when it is obvious to anyone that a person has to deliberately travel to the nude beach. Why would any textiles crowd this beach when they have so many other beaches to go to? Why is it so impossible to get the federal government to assume responsibility for this beach, to properly sign post it, and to protect the nudists who use this beach as they have done for so many years? The parks service knows fully well that a great deal of money is generated by those who specifically come to use the nude beach.

[boatsteve]

I don't think there are many complaining. I know that when Marv Frandsen got the figures for complains for the last two years there was only one complaint. Yes, one in two years! So it would only take two complaints to make it "pick up since August".

I don't know how many complaints there were since August but I'd imagine some local group is intentionally making complaints to bring all this to a boil. I know in the past local church groups did this.

[gordon williams]

If there was one complaint last year and it has 'jumped' to two this year, that's a 100% increase! GOOD GRIEF!
GW

[Yasehtor]

Any update on this story and whether the Brevard County Sheriff's Office is actually enforcing the city ordinance???

[boatsteve]

I talked to Rev Frank a week or two back and there have been no arrests at all but there has been harassment. Rangers have been on the beach taking photos.

[Naturist Mark]

I don't know how many complaints there were since August but I'd imagine some local group is intentionally making complaints to bring all this to a boil. I know in the past local church groups did this.

What if the naturist community started lodging mass complaints about the lewd and disruptive behavior by textiles on the non nude sections of the beach?

-Mark

[Sanslines]

What if the naturist community started lodging mass complaints about the lewd and disruptive behavior by textiles on the non nude sections of the beach?

-Mark

They would either be ignored or told that nothing could be done. The issue is NEVER with the textile. It is with the nudist as the intent is to harrass the nudist to the point where he / she gives up and leaves the beach for good.

[newlynude]

We are going to Orlando in early March and want to visit Apollo Beach. We are afraid to go to Playalinda. I have heard the parking closest to Apollo is very limited. Can we park in the lot closest to that one (which I think is about 2 miles north) and walk nude on the beach down to Apollo? Is that risky? Should we just walk to Apollo and get nude once we get there? Thanks for all replies.

[walter05]

No you can't park at the next lot and walk nude down the beach.

First of all, the sand is soft in many places and this will make walking harder than on the road.

Second, there are hints that the newest park administration is less nudity friendly. We don't want an incident to be the excuse to ruin things.

I have found that if you go early, when first opened, or just after noon on a weekday, the parking is not that bad. (Around noon, the people who arrived early tend to think they have had enough and want to leave.)

Also, I want to warn that there is a dip in the sand close to the shore. It is like a deep hole in some places. Be careful when you step that you don't fall into it.

As with any beach, be careful of the under tow and be safe.

P.S. There tend to be some teenage boys that walk from the clothed part of the beach. They are not looking for sea shells. They don't walk too far down. I have not seen them taking pictures and they don't bother any one.

If y'all walk down the beach a little ways, you will go past where they usually go.

[Nativenude]

Ditto on getting to Apollo EARLY in the morning to get a parking spot. . Only good way to make the trip from the next lot north is to take a bike and pedal down. I would also suggest to drop a note to Brevard county tourism (playalinda area) and tell them that you and all your friends will not spend one dime in their area because of their idiot laws being presently enforced on federal lands. If not already planned, try enjoying some of our nudist resorts like cypress cove. Enjoy the nude beach while you can, we have seen dozens of beaches, both once legal and/or nude use, close in the last few years and the death of the few remaining ones is all to near without major resistant to the Marauding control freaks.

[Tyco]

Is the far southern end of Apollo still officially sanctioned as clothing optional? I was there a few years ago and it was; there were signs posted showing where nudity was allowed. Are the signs gone?

I talked to some regulars while there, who gave me a brief history of the work involved in getting it sanctioned, and how much they valued it (I could see why, the beach was beautiful). I find it difficult to believe that these regulars have disappeared and the agreement was allowed to expire without renewal (which I read on an earlier post). If this is true, it is tragic. I canceled my spring vacation plans to visit this area again this year, as I had gotten the impression that there were problems with nudity now at both Apollo and Playalinda, and that Apollo was no longer officially sanctioned. Can anyone confirm the status of Apollo?

[Popcorntreect]

I'd like to know too as I plan on making my first visit this summer. How is Apollo on weekdays? Less crowded than the weekends I assume? Still gotta get there early? I don't really want to go on the weekend.

[Theo]

I haven't been down in a while, but it was clothing optional last time I was there. Even during the weekday you need to get there early (or afternoonish) the parking lot is tiny.

[Popcorntreect]

So, this has to be asked Playalinda or Apollo? Which do you guys prefer? Apollo seems the safe bet while Playalinda is closer. Which one gets more people? So many questions I know.

[rascal56]

Popcorn,

Have been to both and yes Apollo is a safer bet ,but with very limited parking and farther away ( from me too) as I live in Orlando. Playalinda has more parking overall.but lot 13 get full quicker ( wonder why that is?)
Getting there early is the best bet and as long as you stay north of lot 13 and behave you should have no issues. I have a friend who goes all the time and reports no issues.
Rick