Anyone want to be drawn?

[Youngjoe]

Hey, I was wondering if anyone wanted to be drawn nude or clothed. I am an AP art student at my school,and all my work must be done from noncopyrighted photos, if any from photos at all. So, if anyone would like to post a photo of themself they would like drawn, feel free. I am also working on a piece which will include many different people, so if you would like to be in that, you can post photos also. I cannot guarantee that I will draw anyone, let alone everyone, since I already have a ton of other art stuff I have to do, but if I get enough interest with some photos I can work from, I will at least do the one piece with many different people. When I get a chance I will try to post some of my work.

So basically, my primary goal will be a piece on the naturist spirit with many different people in it. Feel free to submit photos, and PM them to me if you don't want them public in this thread.

I don't just want these to be figure studies, the photos should have something to do with naturism (nude doing whatever it is you do nude).

[PhilE]

i would be up for it, do you still needs a picture for your assignment?

[walter05]

YoungJoe's profile says he is 16.

Unless you want to be arrested and on a sexual predator's list, I strongly recommend that you not pose for him.

[Youngjoe]

YoungJoe's profile says he is 16.

Unless you want to be arrested and on a sexual predator's list, I strongly recommend that you not pose for him.

I understand the concern here, but understand that I am an AP art student and drawing the nude human form is actually required as part of the class. I go to live studio drawing sessions every 3-6 weeks. However, I have had to postpone this project anyway because I am overloaded with schoolwork. As far as the sexual predator thing goes, that was my mistake, and perhaps this idea was ill-advised. At any rate, I had not considered that issue prior to now, and perhaps I should forget about this altogether.

[Sanslines]

Youngjoe,

You should not solicit photographs from anyone on line. There are plenty of legitimate art books which are full of proper art model images for your purposes. There must also be additional life drawing and painting classes in your area (Open Sketch / Open Studio) and with your parents permission, you should be able to attend one or more of those classes. Your parents and art instructors can point you in the proper direction. I am sure that you are only trying to prepare your portfolio for eventual admission to art school. However, due to the fact that you are underage, you must go through the proper channels to obtain the experience that you need. You should start by openly discussing your interests with your parents and seek their help as they will ensure your safety at all times. On line is not the proper place to look for help.

[walter05]

I used to teach school. I understand that you are in AP. However, I would be quite surprised to find that there is a school that assigns underage students to draw nude people.

In this day and age, schools are paranoid on these issues. There have been enough problems with female and male teachers having sex with students to make them afraid of this issue.

If you sincerely want to do this, I want to suggest a path that may work.

Find out if there is an art school or college art class near you. It may be that you can attend a class where the class is drawing a nude. This way, you would not be alone drawing a nude adult. Then discuss it with your parents and ask for written permission. This would be safer.

For you, as a sixteen-year old, to invite an adult to come strip naked so you can draw the adult is to put yourself at risk. Please be careful.

The human body is beautiful and sacred. I am impressed in an age when many sixteen-year old males are ashamed of their bodies; you seem not to be. Please continue to develop a healthy view of your and other human bodies. But, be careful and protect yourself at the same time.

[Baron Lake]

digital camera, timer, self portrait.

b.l.

[walter05]

I hope you did not intentionally suggest that a 16 year old take nude digital self portraits.

Not only is this a possible legal issue, but it is a dumb idea.

An artist needs a 360 degree, 3 dimensional view of the subject. A nude photograph will not fit he bill.

[Baron Lake]

Walter, if anyone on this forum has a closer relationship with the subject of "dumb" ideas than do you I can't imagine who. So I guess you must be right.

If you think the suggestion that an artist use himself as model is somehow fraught with dire legal consequences then you ignore the evidence of centuries. And, as one who has professional nude modeling experience, I can assure you that artists do not "need" a 360 degree access to their subject. Do you somehow imagine that during a 4 hour pose that the artists get up and rotate 90 degrees around their subject each hour? Of course you don't. I'm sure YOU know that the model is actually on a motorized turntable. All the top rated art schools have turntable models with variable speed control to accomodate beginning and advance drawing classes.

Anyway, thanks for the advice

b.l.


Hey, maybe that's why Picasso's stuff looks like it does. He was just a slow sketcher.

[David77]

For drawing and painting a figure, the artist needs to sit or stand and view the model from the same spot in the room, at the same angle and of course, with the model in the exact</I></I> pose. The model must not be rotated on a turntable, as suggested, until that drawing or painting is finished.

In sculpturing, since it is a three dimentional art, it is a different situation, because then either the model must be rotated without loosing the exact pose, so that all dimentions can be viewed, or else the sculptors must move around the model to view the model from all "sides".

[David77]

In our large artist guild of over a thousand members, we had "walk in" drawing and painting groups that required no registration before-hand. The rules were that a teen-ager had to be at least age 15 to draw from the nude form. Sometimes a teacher from a private high school would bring her students to draw the nude form. Some would get high school (art) credit for it.

I, as coordinator of the group, would not hire a model unless he/she was at least age 18. Many of the models were college students from several colleges.

[Baron Lake]

David, have you actually ever seen a model on a turntable, especially a classroom situation? (or are you just trying to wind-up our friend Walter too?)

b.l.

[David77]

Baron Lake,
No, I have never seen a nude on a turn-table.

We used to build our own modeling stands and could put small wheels on it if we so chose, and we could "turn it" to push the stand out of the way for storage.

The only model that I have seen that looked like on a "turntable" was on video CDs.

No, I am certainly not trying to tease or irritate Walter.

[Baron Lake]

Guess it's just up to me then David.

[walter05]

While it was not a nude model, I did see a demonstration of art at the Jepson Center in Savannah.

I did see a sculpture demonstration. In this case, the artists did from time to time get up to look at the model from different angles. I thought that was the way artists created images. I did not consider that painters and/or drawers would have different techniques.

Your explanation is most helpful.

Your description of how teens may have been able to draw a nude figure makes sense also. Since it was in a public setting with a crowd, this would be safer.

Baron;

Please remember that when it comes to minors, the rules are different. You may think I am nuts on this matter, but I am not. If this 16 year old takes a nude picture of himself, and then draws based on the picture, this sounds innocent. However, if the wrong person sees it and contacts law enforcement, you may be in for an unpleasant surprise.

I am not saying whether or not this is reasonable. I am merely saying that in this day and age, it is important to protect yourself.

Walter

[Baron Lake]

Walter: First, where in my suggestion about self portraiture did I imply young Joe should be nude? That seems to be your interpretation. Don't know what the Thought Police might think about that (or Freund) but be careful anyway. Second, I have modeled (private art school) for groups of artists which occasionally included minors. Actually, I never asked about age but they sure looked young. (They were still using Crayons). Ok, that last part's not true.

b.l.

[walter05]

If you read the original question, you will see that Joe said he needs to draw a nude.

If you see my post which is #3 of this topic, you will have the age.

[Baron Lake]

Walter, if YOU will look back at young Joe's original post you will see he notes the assignment as "nude or clothed". It was Joe's intention to show the naturist lifestyle (no capital L I assume!); and yes, I too assumed he was looking for nude subjects (DUH) and obviously(?) I was just kidding you. I guess It's a good thing I didn't suggest a particular pose such as sitting nude at his easel in front of a mirror then his drawing would be a nude artist drawing a nude artist drawing a nude.....

b.l.

[walter05]

I know that you are just kidding.

However, I know that the FBI monitors forums such as this one. If there is even a hing of anything that smells of child exploitation, there could be serious trouble.

You may think I am paranoid. However, I don't want you on a sexual predator's list.

[NakedGary]

Youngjoe has been banned until he is 18 years of age in 2009

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