rules

[ranul]

Here is what I think the rules should be for being nude on your own property you should be allowed to be nude any time you want . But on the other hand as long as the person does not enter your yard that my take any picture of you they want to and as long as they do not alter the picture in any way be allow to display it where ever they feel like .

[HaroldTheNudist]

you can do what ever you want on your own property as long as what you do does not negatively impact those who live around you.

if you are getting or aiming for the conclusion that you should be allowed to be naked on your own property in public view of everyone else then I would have to say no.

Harry

[Nudeinbama]

As long as you put forth some effort to remain out of veiw of others, you should be allowed to legally be nude on your own property. Should someone see you nude by climbing a ladder, peeking through a fence or coming into your private area and see you and complain, they should have no reasons to complain nor should their complaints be valid.Just my opinion of how it should be, and what I generally go by in my mind and doings.
nudeinbama

[RalphVa]

I agree with ranul.

I think being nude anywhere on your own property ought to be completely legal. I'd love to be in a world where one could walk down the street and see a lady happily doing gardening au naturelle in her front yard.

Anyone making any lewd gestures or sounds to her, should be allowed to be shot on sight, after a proper recording of the gestures is made as proof. That's a good use for those dash cams on cop cars.

[ranul]

you can do what ever you want on your own property as long as what you do does not negatively impact those who live around you.

if you are getting or aiming for the conclusion that you should be allowed to be naked on your own property in public view of everyone else then I would have to say no.

Harry

that is what I am saying it is your property you should be able to go nude on it if you want to . if your neighbour doesn't like it there would be nothing stopping them from taking a picture and sending it to your boss to get you in trouble .
I am not including flashers in this sitution . It should not depend on if some one is coming if you are nude or not .

[Bob S.]

ranul:"But on the other hand as long as the person does not enter your yard that my take any picture of you they want to and as long as they do not alter the picture in any way be allow to display it where ever they feel like "

Taking the nudity out of it, this could lead to lawsuits. What if a guy was out on the front lawn in just a pair of shorts and sent that picture to a sexual website? What if they want to make money off your image? Would that be fine? You need to feel like you have some ownership over your image while you are on your own property.

I appreciate that you want to try to equalize the rules, but I would try working for the complete freedom with no extra rules. Mind you, it would be a hard sell, but you have to try for the highest plateau.

Bob S.

[HaroldTheNudist]

that is what I am saying it is your property you should be able to go nude on it if you want to . if your neighbour doesn't like it there would be nothing stopping them from taking a picture and sending it to your boss to get you in trouble .
I am not including flashers in this sitution . It should not depend on if some one is coming if you are nude or not .

Sorry Ranul I don't agree.

if you are in a community you have to work with the community. I cant have a big bonfire in my community and drift smoke over to your area and I would complain if my neighbor had a big party with loud music so I couldn't get my sleep.

your lack of respect for your neighbors is honestly a little childish and upsetting. you chose to live in a community. if you dont like the rules that go with community living, then excercise your right to move and live away from the community.

TO ALL:

I am undergoing counselling to bring my family back together. it has been a good experience.

Harry

[Skinview]

The way it should be: Wear whatever you want, or nothing, whenever you are not on someone else's property. Other people don't have to like what you wear. Of course, they may not like you either.

[JeepNude]

This can be sticky...

When I bought my property (rural country area), I met the one and only neighbor. I told him that I'll porbably be hanging out nude in the summer. He told me 'I won't complain about you being nude if you don't complain about me'. Sounded great.

Years later, after our house was built, I was relaxing out back on the deck (nude) in 105 degree weather and the neighbor's wife went out on their deck and freaked out that she saw me nude (their property line is 400 feet or more away, BTW). She told her husband and he asked me to cover up when outside. I said 'NO'. I told him to tell his wife to quit looking over here with binoculars (which she would have had to use to see anything 'good'.). He told me he would talk to her.

Haven't heard anything more about it. But, it could have gone very wrong. If she had called the Sheriff and 'padded' the story by saying I was doing something, it would have been my word against hers, and I would probably have one hell lof a time defending myself.

It is up to YOU to be cautious with yourself when enjoying being clothes free on your own property. The sad fact is, we are the ones that are doing something out of the ordinary in the eyes of the law. It is not up to the clothing impaired to take precautions.

[ranul]

Sorry Ranul I don't agree.

if you are in a community you have to work with the community. I cant have a big bonfire in my community and drift smoke over to your area and I would complain if my neighbor had a big party with loud music so I couldn't get my sleep.

your lack of respect for your neighbors is honestly a little childish and upsetting. you chose to live in a community. if you dont like the rules that go with community living, then excercise your right to move and live away from the community.

TO ALL:

I am undergoing counselling to bring my family back together. it has been a good experience.

Harry
there is a difference between what you can do and what you should do . Just because you can be naked on your property and of course what is to stop them from taking pictures of you and doing things and sending them to people that you don't want to see you naked .

[HaroldTheNudist]

Ranul

is your community a nudist one? no it is not and you can't expect them to make it a nudist one on your account.

they have a standard of decency to uphold and sorry, they consider public nudity indecent.

that you disagree with that is besides the point.

you are perfectly free to choose a community with a different standard. I would suggest a nudist resort or moving out and away from general public view. then you can do what you want.

it's really simple. honestly I wonder why you would even post this on a nudist board. Nudists are not mainstream and dont factor into public policy. people in general do not care what nudists may think or want.

Harry

[nimrod]

Sounds like paranoia to me. If you are worried about being photographed nude while you are outside dont go outside nude, simple as that. Whats to stop someone from taking a photo of you doing anything outside of the norm and taking that to your boss? You really have to stop thinking this way and just live your life.

[ranul]

Ranul

is your community a nudist one? no it is not and you can't expect them to make it a nudist one on your account.

they have a standard of decency to uphold and sorry, they consider public nudity indecent.

that you disagree with that is besides the point.

you are perfectly free to choose a community with a different standard. I would suggest a nudist resort or moving out and away from general public view. then you can do what you want.

it's really simple. honestly I wonder why you would even post this on a nudist board. Nudists are not mainstream and dont factor into public policy. people in general do not care what nudists may think or want.

Harry
why would I post this on a nudists board simply I had an idea and wondered what people thought of it . Where should I have posted it .

[HaroldTheNudist]

Ranul

you should have posted it on a board more in the mainstream of society. nudists are not in mainstream society but on the fringe.

you can find mainstream boards very easily. go ask them how they feel about turning their communities into nudists resorts. I think you can imagine.

not meaning to be offensive but your post has about the same logic as a textile moving into a nudist resort and then complaining he is seeing naked people and everyone needs to wear some clothes.

Harry

[Naturist Mark]

There is a big difference between how it should be, and how it is.

Like it or not, your neighbors and the authorities have a lot to say about how you behave on your private property. You have no freedom to engage in dangerous and illegal acts - like child beating or torturing animals, or manufacturing fireworks. Unfortunately many of your neighbors think nudity falls in the same category.

[eagle59]

I believe that you should be able to be nude on your own property as much as you wish. However, you need to remember that your neighbor may not want to be a part of your world so I you want to participate in nude activities outside then you either need to go to a setting where it is allowed, or make your personal space private so you do not intrude on your neighbors. There are many ways to do this either with fencing or shrubs/trees or both.

[Balloon_Artist]

Here is an idea. How about we set up a community somewhere were nude is the norm? It would be in the town charter. I'm not talking about a resort, but a whole town.

There are other towns that are set-up for many reasons. P. T. Barnum set up a town for his workers while they were off-season. A place where Tom Thumb, Chang and Ang, and all the people that worked on the midway could relax and be themselves. There are towns that were set-up by newly freed slaves. where the whole of the population is still of African decent. There is a place where little people who had enough trying to fit into the average-sized world.

I may be crazy :eek: but I think it's a doable idea. ;)

[HaroldTheNudist]

Here is an idea. How about we set up a community somewhere were nude is the norm? It would be in the town charter. I'm not talking about a resort, but a whole town.

There are other towns that are set-up for many reasons. P. T. Barnum set up a town for his workers while they were off-season. A place where Tom Thumb, Chang and Ang, and all the people that worked on the midway could relax and be themselves. There are towns that were set-up by newly freed slaves. where the whole of the population is still of African decent. There is a place where little people who had enough trying to fit into the average-sized world.

I may be crazy :eek: but I think it's a doable idea. ;)

well, you need money to do it and my experience is that most people who are really into nudism are not high achievers. You would have to fund not only living quarters but infrastructure as well.

then there is the law-and the law in the State may prohibit public nudity.

I really don't think most people and that includes fellow nudists are really that interested because of the considerable obstacles. Much cheaper to live where they are or if so inclined just move into a nudist resort.

Harry

[Baron Lake]

Balloon, you might want to start out by trying to make a clothing optional apartment complex work. Considering the track record of that concept you would have plenty to keep you busy. (I almost said "occupied", but that of course would be your main concern with.....) :)

b.l.

[ranul]

what about this if you can get the neighbours on both sides of you to agree then you will be allowed to be nude any time on your property you want .

[JeepNude]

That's GREAT! Until one of your neighbors moves and your new neighbors are militantly against nudity.

Or, in my case, your neighbor's wife begins menopause and suddenly has big problems with nudity.

[ranul]

I think that at the very least some one that does not live on the block should not be able to complain if they some one naked on their own land . After all they person doesn't have to travel that way .