Why hasn't there been another terrorist attack?

[Steve Dallas]

Many people feel that George W. Bush has kept America safe. They often say "There hasn't been anymore terrorist attacks, have there?" They believe the Iraq war is the reason why and the lack of attacks prove the war has been a success and worth the cost. I can't help but feel, why should al-Qaida attack us physically? The war has done more damage they could.

I also hear people say that we needed to attack Iraq to prove our resolve and defend ourselves. But Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11, had little if any connection to al-Qaida, and didn't even have WMD's. It was as if the Bush Doctine was "You better not attack us, or we will attack...Another Country!"

In the meantime, look at how much damage Bush and the war has caused us:

*It's estimated that the war will cost 9 trillion dollars. There was never any attempt to raise taxes, it was all paid for with borrowed money. The interest alone will cost future generations billions, and severly cripple them. Most of the borrowed money has come from other countries, especially Saudi Arabia. In other words, they have more power over us now than before 9-11.

*The war has caused oil to skyrocket, and most of the money has gone to Middle East countries. Meanwhile most Americans are losing purchasing power, going further into debt, and feeling worse about their future. Many are working longer and harder and still falling further behind. This situation has benefited the Middle East while bringing more and more misery to all but the richest Americans, and their is no end in sight. Rising oil prices will continue to weaken our economy and make most Americans poorer and more miserable. What more could al-Qaida want?

*Supposedly terrorists hated our freedom. In response Bush has made his Administration above the law and cut back on our rights and freedoms.

*Many terrorists hated us for being Christians and moral. So Bush has allowed torture, Abu Gharib, and illegal activities such as kidnapping and indefinite detention. We are now less moral than before 9-11.

*Terrorists hated us because we were so respected and admired throughout the world. Thanks to Bush, most of the world holds now in low regard.

*We have had approxiamately 3000 dead and several thousands more wounded.

*We will be stuck in a bad situation for years. There is no end in sight for our ever worse economy. For many, the American Dream may soon be a thing of the past.

*Has the war really made us safe? How many times have European police stopped terrorist attacks and arrested terrorists? They always supported us in our efforts against terrorism, but were against the war. Really, has the war stopped any attacks?

*If anything, this war has benefited al-Qaida, brought more people into their fold, and made most Middle Easteners sympathatic to their cause.

How can al-Qaida not look at our situation and laugh? Bush has caused us far more damage than they ever could.

[wantago9]

Bush is from Texas and they says, "Don't mess with us or we will get you." (or something like that)

Former Clinton did the damage. He backed out our defense and we became weak. The attack us just in time Bush were into the President's office. So, we have beefed up our defense and we are strong again.

Muslim thinks very different. They think we are evil people and they kill us to get into Lord's Kingdom. It is like getting medal for killing evil people in God's commandment. I am telling you guys, God loves everyone either bad or good people so it is still wrong to kill. But, again God did say that there will always be wars here. God have reason for all of this to happen.

[tiggy]

Why hasn't there been another terrorist attack?
What about the London bombings?
What about the Glasgow suicide bomber?
Just because the USA hasn't been hit again does not mean they've stopped
Tiggy

[Qikdraw]

Former Clinton did the damage. He backed out our defense and we became weak. The attack us just in time Bush were into the President's office. So, we have beefed up our defense and we are strong again.

Talk to the military. Ask them if we are stronger today. We aren't, we are stretched to teh limit and at the breaking point. All because of Bush, not Clinton.

Muslim thinks very different. They think we are evil people and they kill us to get into Lord's Kingdom. It is like getting medal for killing evil people in God's commandment. I am telling you guys, God loves everyone either bad or good people so it is still wrong to kill. But, again God did say that there will always be wars here. God have reason for all of this to happen.

So ALL muslims are bad? Please. The majority of muslims, just like christians, want peace and a future for their children. There are radicals in every religion. Christan radicals that murder abortion doctors, or firebomb clinics. They are just as wrong as islamic radicals.

Qikdraw

[KNude]

Steve
Consider this; It's not so much that oil has gone up much in terms of other countries currency, but that the dollar has gone down in value. Thank the shrub.

[usmc1]

Why hasn't there been another terrorist attack?
What about the London bombings?
What about the Glasgow suicide bomber?
Just because the USA hasn't been hit again does not mean they've stopped
Tiggy

Thanks. Recently we posted a list of 200 hundred some terrorist attacks since 9/11. We Americans, some of us anyway, have a US-centric way of looking at things.

Also, there is still a scant minority who still buy into Bush's way of framing and defining the issue.

[usmc1]

Bush is from Texas and they says, "Don't mess with us or we will get you." (or something like that)

:eek::laugh: Actually nothing like that. What the slogan said was this:

Don't Mess With Texas



It was part of an anti-litter campaign and a really clever way to appeal to Texan's almost pugnacious pride in our state.

There was an award-winning, and really clever television PSA that was part of the campaign.

It was a close shot of two gnarly, good-ole boys in a beat to hell pick-em up truck tossing beer cans out of the windows, and, fast food wrappers and other crap swirling out of the bed of their pick up. Then the camera pulled to a telephoto long shot of a fully armed Black Hawk helicopter rising up from behind a hill in the background and "locking on" the pick up.

Then a fade to: Don't Mess With Texas

I can't swear to it, but I think the pick up had Oklahoma plates.

[nacktman]

Bush is from Texas and they says, "Don't mess with us or we will get you." (or something like that)

Former Clinton did the damage. He backed out our defense and we became weak. The attack us just in time Bush were into the President's office. So, we have beefed up our defense and we are strong again.

Muslim thinks very different. They think we are evil people and they kill us to get into Lord's Kingdom. It is like getting medal for killing evil people in God's commandment. I am telling you guys, God loves everyone either bad or good people so it is still wrong to kill. But, again God did say that there will always be wars here. God have reason for all of this to happen.

Oikdraw answered you quite well on your assertion about the military 'strength' ...

Speaking as one of those military (retired) we are at the weakest the military has ever been since 1775 right now, after we where at full strength 8 years ago and you know what Clinton was the president then and the shrub is occupying the office right now.

Funny how reality is exactly opposite from what you asserted.

I remember the same foolish malarkey spouted about how raygun brought back the strength of the military from the weakening of it by Carter - funny thing about that ... it was exactly the opposite then, too ... Wow!
I was active then and got the shaft as did every person in uniform when raygun acted (and badly) as president.

Remember the "War on Drugs"? Did you know we were winning it under Carter, but lost it under raygun. It was an 'undeclared' war under Carter and we actually did something about eradicating drugs world-wide ... I know I was one of the ones doing so. Raygun swooped in and declared his 'war' and pulled us out while reading his lines from his script as we were told to do nothing about the flow of drugs because the drug lords had promised to tell the government about communist activities in their countries.
So, you can thank the paranoia of those deluded individuals who thought a ideological governance orientation was more pressing than actual life threatening array of substances for the waste of humans we see today among some of the population - that and the money was too good to pass up.

Same thing now just with a different name ... "War on (insert object here)."


And Qikdraw was correct as well when he admonished you about fanatics come in every group.

[nacktman]

Why hasn't there been another terrorist attack?
What about the London bombings?
What about the Glasgow suicide bomber?
Just because the USA hasn't been hit again does not mean they've stopped
Tiggy


Thank You!

The blind just won't see, I'm afraid.

[KirkOntario]

So ALL muslims are bad? Please. The majority of muslims, just like christians, want peace and a future for their children. There are radicals in every religion. Christan radicals that murder abortion doctors, or firebomb clinics. They are just as wrong as islamic radicals.

Qikdraw

Just as wrong but not nearly as prolific as Islamic radicals or as numerous as Islamic radicals. In the last 30 years how many abortion doctors have been murdered? Even a dozen? An Islamic radical can blow up a bus load of nuns in one afternoon in one corner of the world. And this is a daily occurence.

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/new.php?n=12043

[Naturist Mark]

Why hasn't there been another terrorist attack?
What about the London bombings?
What about the Glasgow suicide bomber?
Just because the USA hasn't been hit again does not mean they've stopped
Tiggy

America WAS hit again ... funny how many people forget about the Anthrax attacks in Florida and the US Capital. But that doesn't fit into the meme of Bush keeping us safe, so it doesn't count.

They also aren't counting the residents of New Orleans shot by mercenaries. (http://www.google.com/search?US%3Aofficial&channel=s&hl=en&q=new+orleans+blackwater+shootings&btnG=Google+Search)

[nakedjohn]

Please do not ask for it. We do not need dissasters like this.

[usmc1]

Just as wrong but not nearly as prolific as Islamic radicals or as numerous as Islamic radicals. In the last 30 years how many abortion doctors have been murdered? Even a dozen? An Islamic radical can blow up a bus load of nuns in one afternoon in one corner of the world. And this is a daily occurence.

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/new.php?n=12043

Bus loads of nuns blown up by Islamic radicals as a daily occurrence in some corner of the world. Must be an isolated corner, those stories have not made it out yet.

I guess somehow it is worse for Islamic radicals to blow up a bus load of nuns in some corner of the world than it is for other catholics in Central America, to line up catholic nuns and shoot them and bury them in a mass grave.

All this is to say, that mass-murder of the innocent and genocide is not the sole province of Islamic radicals. We need only look to the Balkans where Muslims were the target.

Oh dang it, I went and jumped up and spilled my popcorn and drink all over myself. Drat!

[KirkOntario]

And today they murdered a Christian Archbishop in Iraq. Sadly Christians and other religious minorities are being persecuted and driven out of the Middle East as Islam waxes bellicose.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/03/13/iraq/main3935561.shtml

"AP) The body of a kidnapped Chaldean Catholic archbishop was found in a shallow grave in northern Iraq Thursday, one of the most dramatic attacks on the nation's small Christian community.

In Rome, Pope Benedict XVI said the act offends the dignity of humankind.

Archbishop Paulos Faraj Rahho was seized by unknown gunmen on Feb. 29, just minutes after he delivered a mass in Mosul, considered the last urban stronghold of al Qaeda in Iraq. "

[tiggy]

While terrorism in the name of political beliefs can be worked on and
compromise reached,terrorism in the name of religion is by its very
nature irrational and it becomes virtually impossible to counter.
Some groups use political rhetoric to cover what is basically a
religous agenda and whatever anyone does politically they will
never stop trying to achieve their aim of religous domination.
Just because there hasn't been another large scale attempt doesn't
mean that it won't happen.
Tiggy