Alicante nudists unhappy at new local beach bylaw

[torreviejaguys]

Those who remove their clothes on the beach now face fines of upto 1,500 €
The Alicante Nudist Association, Osiris, says that new by laws in the city are ridiculous. New regulations mean that those who remove their bathing costume on the beaches of the city face a fine of between 751 and 1500 €.

However nudists can walk naked down the Avenida de Maissonave in the town and face no problems, except possible comments and embarrassment. The Town Hall says walking in the street is also not allowed, but the Prosecutors’ Office has said that in fact there is no crime committed unless there are children present, as it comes under article 185 of the penal code which attends exhibitionism and sexual provocation.

The nudists are claiming discrimination with the new law fining those who remove their costumes, and say that similar fines should be imposed on those who remain dressed in local nudist beaches and restaurants.

Meanwhile Maribel Martínez from the Alicante Pro Family Beach group told 20 minutos newspaper yesterday that despite presenting a 10,000 signature petition against topless women on the beach, the local councillor with responsibility for the beaches, Carmen Román, is refusing to see them.

Isn´t it a strange world when you can be naked in the street, but not on the beach.

[A Bay Marty]

Which country is Alicante in?

[torreviejaguys]

Which country is Alicante in?

Alicante is on the Costa Blanca in Spain.

[Pete Knight]

Isn´t it a strange world when you can be naked in the street, but not on the beach.
There is no specific law against nudity in Spain, the bylaw mentioned was quite specific in that it applied to the beach, of course that doesn't stop the council enacting a bylaw against nudity in the town's streets, its just that they didn't think about the streets when addressing the nudity issue that had on the beaches, its commonly known as a loophole.

Pete Knight

[Stu2630]

Yet more proof that what i said about Spain was correct - and that my message from the Spanish Ministry of Justice was accurate. While there is no national law against public nudity in Spain, local authorities are free to enact byelaws prohibiting it: and many do just that.

Viva España!

Stu

[Eric6420]

Of course, the city of Alicante can make the laws they want, but I do not think that it is wise. After all, if Spain is now one of the most visited country in the World, I think it has to do with its new libertarian attitude that includes gay marriage and nudist beaches. Franco's Spain was not that popular as a destination. Bacelona, Ibiza and Canary Islands are a vacation paridise for nudists, gays and people who just want to have fun...

[Pete Knight]

Yet more proof that what i said about Spain was correct - and that my message from the Spanish Ministry of Justice was accurate. While there is no national law against public nudity in Spain, local authorities are free to enact byelaws prohibiting it: and many do just that.

Viva España!

Stu
Not that I want to rain on your parade (OK yes I do really!) but you obviously haven't seen THIS (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fcanarias24horas.com%2Findex.php%2F2 008052949968%2Ftenerife%2Fel-ayuntamiento-de-granadilla-dice-que-fue-un-error-prohibir-el-nudismo-en-una-parte-de-la-tejita.html) story, it would seem that the bylaw was ill advised. (Google translation)

Pete Knight

[Stu2630]

Pete

Read it again. The translation is very poor, but it appears to be saying the ordnance contained an error and relates to naturism being practised on a particular beach. This appears to affect its validity with regard to that beach. That does not contradict my assertion that, while there is no national law against public nudity in Spain, local authorities are free to enact byelaws prohibiting it.

We have the same thing in the UK with regard to local authorities imposing parking restrictions or erecting road signs but failing to comply with the requirements of legislation. Some smart motorist, or their lawyer, finds the loophole and exploits it. Next time around, the Council does it properly and the loophole is closed.

My parade remains un-rained upon.

Stu

[Sanslines]

Pete

Read it again. The translation is very poor, but it appears to be saying the ordnance contained an error and relates to naturism being practised on a particular beach. This appears to affect its validity with regard to that beach. That does not contradict my assertion that, while there is no national law against public nudity in Spain, local authorities are free to enact byelaws prohibiting it.

We have the same thing in the UK with regard to local authorities imposing parking restrictions or erecting road signs but failing to comply with the requirements of legislation. Some smart motorist, or their lawyer, finds the loophole and exploits it. Next time around, the Council does it properly and the loophole is closed.

It's raining outside as I write this! Sorry to add more rain to the discussion (and today's parade has been cancelled because of it), but authorities always have a snake bag full of charges that they can level against nudists. Many of these charges have nothing to do with nudism but are obviously used and misused against those that they wish to procescute and persecute (either rightly or wrongly). We all need to agree that persecution of those who are harmlessly enjoying nudism on a beach is just plain wrong and nudists must get their act together and establish laws which protect their rights so that authorities will subsequently be prohibited from abusing theirs.

[Stu2630]

Sanslines

We all need to agree that persecution of those who are harmlessly enjoying nudism on a beach is just plain wrong and nudists must get their act together and establish laws which protect their rights so that authorities will subsequently be prohibited from abusing theirs.

I will add just two words to that statement and then I can agree with it in its entirety. Try this:

We all need to agree that persecution of those who are harmlessly enjoying nudism on a designated nudist beach is just plain wrong and nudists must get their act together and establish laws which protect their rights so that authorities will subsequently be prohibited from abusing theirs.

I'll say away from your beaches if you stay away from mine. Deal?

Stu