INCIDENT I just experienced

[jozimmer]

While at a very nice resort I was out walking at 2:30 a.m. because I couldn't sleep. Another guy was awake also walking. I am straight and getting married to a wonderul woman in 4 weeks and everyone at the resort knew this (including this guy).

To make a long story short, he groped me and asked to play with my d**k. He made comments about the size and how much he liked it. I just kept saying, "No, NO No NO NO NO" and he said, "please" I said, "no" , he said Please again, i said no and left.

This is pretty damn disturbing to me. I know this isn't typical but I'm wondering if anyone else has run into something like this.

[Fitz1980]

Can't say I've had that. I've been hit on by gay guys at the nude beach but they've always been respectful and when I tell them that's not what I'm down with they are cool about it. Given that it was 2:30 AM was he drunk by chance? Late nights and lots of booze can turn many into inconsiderate, pushy, personal barrier invading jackasses; just ask any girl who's ever been in a bar around last call.

[Boreas]

Hi jozimmer, have you mentioned this to anyone at the resort? Have you talked to anyone in person about this?

If you were female, people would be clammering to get you to charge that guy with sexual assault. You do have that option as a man too for the record......IF YOU CHOOSE.

Basically you were assaulted and it does not matter if the other guy was drunk or not.

Please do not let this experience sour you on the resort and all naturist activities.

Take care

[EricNY]

My opinion is that you have the responsibility to report this to the resort management. Chances are this is not an isolated case for this guy, and he may cause the resort more harm.

[Croydon]

Hi jozimmer, have you mentioned this to anyone at the resort? Have you talked to anyone in person about this?

If you were female, people would be clammering to get you to charge that guy with sexual assault. You do have that option as a man too for the record......IF YOU CHOOSE.

Basically you were assaulted and it does not matter if the other guy was drunk or not.

Please do not let this experience sour you on the resort and all naturist activities.

Take care
I for one do not believe a damn word that he said. Like Judge Judy always says, if it doesn't make sense, it is usally NOT true.

[Sanslines]

What is the name of this resort???

[Eric6420]

I for one do not believe a damn word that he said. Like Judge Judy always says, if it doesn't make sense, it is usally NOT true.

It surely looks like a made up story just to sread homophobia. It is like saying that a drug dealer was trying to sell you illegal drugs in front of a policeman.

In most nudist resorts, people are watched closely and a story like that is virtually impossible.

[Croydon]

It surely looks like a made up story just to sread homophobia. It is like saying that a drug dealer was trying to sell you illegal drugs in front of a policeman.

In most nudist resorts, people are watched closely and a story like that is virtually impossible.
I didn't say it was a made up story to spread homophobia. I am not quick to call the poster homophobic.

To clarify: I simply don't believe the situation occurred. The story does not make sense or add up.

I first call into question: "I am straight and getting married and everyone at the resort know (including this guy)"....my question is: what resort is this and did he personally go to every attendant of the resort and announced his sexuality and his engagement?

I further don't believe the "he groped me and commented on the size of my dick, how much he liked it"....and the no no no no and then he asked again...sorry not ask he BEGGED, and poster said no again and left....this is where I don't believe the story AT ALL.

Assuming the incident actually happened, it is considered assault. As he was "assaulted" he didn't immediately...apparently he had to say no many times before he got the clue to leave the situation? Riiiight. I think most people would be immediately offended and walk away quickly.

Also, assuming this actually happened, why didn't he notify the proper authorities..for ex: the resort manager or even the police? Wouldn't you let the resort management know about this so they can rectify the situation so this person doesn't harass any other members?

I simply think the poster just wants a little attention.

[Eric6420]

It is like creating a racist story like this:

"I went to a nudist resort and there was a black family, that black family was smelling very bad. They had a very noisy radio and they respected no one..."

I does not take a specialist to understand the goal of such a post. The homophobic story above is clearly like that.

[Eric6420]

I would also add that walking outside in the middle of the night is not a smart thing to do in most places, unless the area has extreme security. And you have more chances to get harmed by a drug addict who needs money than by a gay man looking for sex.

[PascoDoug]

I would also add that walking outside in the middle of the night is not a smart thing to do in most places, unless the area has extreme security.

This isn't true at a nudist resort. I can't say I've ever felt unsafe walking outside at night at a (real) nudist resort.


And you have more chances to get harmed by a drug addict who needs money than by a gay man looking for sex.

This I can agree with.

[WilliamCA]

It surely looks like a made up story just to sread homophobia. It is like saying that a drug dealer was trying to sell you illegal drugs in front of a policeman.

In most nudist resorts, people are watched closely and a story like that is virtually impossible.

Not to spread any homophobia or anything, but... Do you guys know how many gay/bisexual men I meet at places you would never expect to meet. I know a number of them at the health club I go to. All of them in their late 40s to their late 70s, usually married. Most are there to relax, but some are kind of cruising. So it's quite possible that this may have happened.

Weather this incident did or didn't happen, then how will the original post spread homophobia?

WilliamCA

[Eric6420]

Not to spread any homophobia or anything, but... Do you guys know how many gay/bisexual men I meet at places you would never expect to meet. I know a number of them at the health club I go to. All of them in their late 40s to their late 70s, usually married. Most are there to relax, but some are kind of cruising. So it's quite possible that this may have happened.

Weather this incident did or didn't happen, then how will the original post spread homophobia?

WilliamCA

Well, there is a difference between looking for sex, and something that many people here consider a sexual assault (like the begining of a rape).

Anyway that story is not really credible. By the way, how do you know so much things about men at your health club? Men who want to have sex with other men go to gay saunas, gay bars or the internet, not health clubs. Health clubs are for exercice and I never saw old men cruising men in healthclubs. Of course some health clubs may have a large gay clientele and some cruising may happen there, but nudists resorts are really not a cruising place for gays unless it is a gay resort.

[Sanslines]

It is no more acceptable for a gay man to keep making advances towards another man when that man has strongly said NO! then it is acceptable for a straight man to keep making advances towards a woman when that woman has strongly said NO! Being gay or straight means nothing more then what a person's sexual preferences are and a person's sexual preferences should not even be worth mentioning. However, bad behavior is just that regardless of whether it is originating from a straight or a gay man.

[Sanslines]

What does this 'story' have to do with homophobia? I know many gay men who are good, kind, decent, intelligent, and respectful men who would not make advances to a straight man. They will respect others and only ask for respect in kind. There are also some gay men who go out and openly cruise for men and will not back down when told to do so. These are the men who seem to give all gay men a bad reputation and this reputation is not deserved. If everyone could only find a way to judge each and every person on their own personal merits and stop making unfounded generalizations based upon the actions of the few, the world would be a much better place. Why should anyone give more or special attention to a gay man then to a straight man. Who really cares what a person's sexual preferences are.

[Eric6420]

It is no more acceptable for a gay man to keep making advances towards another man when that man has strongly said NO! then it is acceptable for a straight man to keep making advances towards a woman when that woman has strongly said NO! Being gay or straight means nothing more then what a person's sexual preferences are and a person's sexual preferences should not even be worth mentioning. However, bad behavior is just that regardless of whether it is originating from a straight or a gay man.


I agree, but the story above is simply not very credible, particularly in a nudist resort. The goal of the post could be more about to put down the reputation of gay men and nudist resorts, than a real incident.

[Sanslines]

I agree, but the story above is simply not very credible, particularly in a nudist resort. The goal of the post could be more about to put down the reputation of gay men and nudist resorts, than a real incident.

I agree with you and I hope that you can understand that many of us see right through this story and dismiss it as such. Who really knows why such a big deal is made about gay men for there is so much more to anyone then their sexual preference. Sadly, some people are still living in the dark ages and cling to intolerant notions about gay men.

[Naturist Mark]

I don't know why this is so hard to believe. Nudist resorts attract their share of idiots, beaches even more. I agree that this doesn't sound like a gay man, it sounds like a drunk bi-curious 'straight' man.

What was described was sexual assault. At the very least it should be reported to management. You might be concerned that you will not be believed, especially if the idiot is an established member. You might be right. But you might not be the first to report him, and if you are, the second person may be believed.

-Mark

[Joontiki]

I don't know why this is so hard to believe. Nudist resorts attract their share of idiots, beaches even more. I agree that this doesn't sound like a gay man, it sounds like a drunk bi-curious 'straight' man.*clip*
I agree. I was thinking the same thing. I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt when they tell me their experiences, but thought this didn't sound very much like a gay man.

On a side rant, unfortunately, in my experience, bisexual (or bi-curious/friendly) people are ostracized by everyone! Straight people consider them gay, and gay people think they are not legitimate & should just choose a side.

I realize this is a gross generalization, but it can be very hard to be bisexual in this world. Attitudes are changing slowly though. Bisexuality is actually just starting to become more accepted as a legitimate 'orientation'. I wish that everyone would just let people be who they are!

Of course, getting back to the story, this guy was a jerk (or like you said, more likely drunk), no matter what his orientation was.

[Yasehtor]

If you take the time to read jozimmer's previous posts you may well come to the same conclusion that I have. His story sounds like a real piece of fiction.

[wantago9]

No, I think he is right all along. He is young and sore of pushing his limit. I pray for your marrage and hope that your love ones would comfort you as well.

His story is not going to carry though since nothing really have happen. I want to say, that, I am sorry to hear whatever may have or not have happen and yes that guy really is at the wrong place to do this type of behavior on that resort you were at. It should have been reported, but again wouldn't be enforced. But, the manager should try his best to comfort everyone on the resort, which that is his job to do. He is getting paid for this, remember that.

[jozimmer]

Eric & Everyone else

It happened. Exactly the way I said it. YES, I did report it to the management FIRST thing the next morning when they opened. I'm not homophobic, how dare of you to insist I made the whole thing up and call me a liar.

It happened at Cherokee Lodge & Resort in Crossville, TN. The guy's name is Bobby, he has a trailer on the property, first one on the rigth on the way to the pool from the parking lot. His boyfriend's name is Richard. I informed Caroline, the manager of the place. Do you want her phone number and e-mail to verify my story?

He was drinking earlier in the night, but was walked home to sleep it off around 11 p.m. This happened at 2:30 a.m. YES, it was stupid of me to go for a walk at 2:30 a.m., but I could not sleep and felt safe at the resort.

I am appalled that people on here automatically assume I made the story up. YES, I WAS ASSAULTED. IT HAPPENED.

I thought people on here would be understanding but obviously I was wrong.

[jozimmer]

Oh, I forgot to clarify how everyone knew I was getting married this month.

The people at Cherokee are friendly and everyone came over to talk to me. I played sand volleyball, was invited to supper, and went to the dance. Almost every single person there (40 or so) came over to greet me and talk with me since they knew I was visiting there for the first time.

[Boreas]

I am glad you came back to clarify. People need to hear that.

Are you going to charge Bobby? What will happen now?

[jozimmer]

I am not going to press charges. I have given it a lot of thought but I'm going to just continue with my life and prepare for my new life with my wife.

The manager Carol said herself, Bobby, and the owner of the resort would have a meeting and get things straightened out.

Thanks to those few who didn't accuse me of making it up. If I was a female and this happened with a male everyone probably would've believed it. But assault is assault and some people try to accuse me of being homophobic or spread that and accuse me as a liar...that's absurd.

[Croydon]

I am not going to press charges. I have given it a lot of thought but I'm going to just continue with my life and prepare for my new life with my wife.

The manager Carol said herself, Bobby, and the owner of the resort would have a meeting and get things straightened out.

Thanks to those few who didn't accuse me of making it up. If I was a female and this happened with a male everyone probably would've believed it. But assault is assault and some people try to accuse me of being homophobic or spread that and accuse me as a liar...that's absurd.
I thank you for your clarification and my apologies for doubting you.

I do agree it was assault and should not have happened. You did the right thing by reporting the gentleman.

I never thought your original post to be homophobic at all and defended you on that part.

[Amber1986]

It is a terrible feeling to no be believed when an incident like this happens.

To turn it into a racist or gay issue is just wrong. I see people do this all the time. Why can't things just be as they are without people reading into things. People are do damn defensive that they find wrong in everything people say and do. Take a deep breath and remember that this story is not about you and has nothing to do with you really.

I say this to my friends alot "It is not about you!"

[naturalandfree]

the same thing happened to me back in the 80s
i just said no thanks and kept walking
it happens a lot more than is reported

[Wcstflyer]

While at a very nice resort I was out walking at 2:30 a.m. because I couldn't sleep. Another guy was awake also walking. I am straight and getting married to a wonderul woman in 4 weeks and everyone at the resort knew this (including this guy).

To make a long story short, he groped me and asked to play with my d**k. He made comments about the size and how much he liked it. I just kept saying, "No, NO No NO NO NO" and he said, "please" I said, "no" , he said Please again, i said no and left.

This is pretty damn disturbing to me. I know this isn't typical but I'm wondering if anyone else has run into something like this.

Since I own properties at "a very nice resort" I can say with reasonable assurance that the possibility of this happening are on a par with finding a roaming band of sexually insatiable supermodels at your local beach.

I've always been curious as to why Male issues have innumerable threads while over on the female side there is just one: I am menstruating... Posts like this partially explain the riddle. :rolleyes:

[Eric6420]

It is a terrible feeling to no be believed when an incident like this happens.

To turn it into a racist or gay issue is just wrong. I see people do this all the time. Why can't things just be as they are without people reading into things. People are do damn defensive that they find wrong in everything people say and do. Take a deep breath and remember that this story is not about you and has nothing to do with you really.

I say this to my friends alot "It is not about you!"

I understand your point, but here you have a man, new on this forum, and one of the first thing he say is that he has been victim of a sexual assault by a man on a very fine nudist resort...

If that is not suspect, I do not know what would be. Also, the way the post was made looks homophobic :"I am a straight man getting married in 4 weeks and everyone knows my orientation including the one who assaulted me..."

I just think that we can reasonably suspect here that the post was just about to tarnish the reputation of nudist resorts with the myth that they are sexual playgrounds or the myth that gay men are just there to rape straight men.

[Eric6420]

Oh, I forgot to clarify how everyone knew I was getting married this month.

The people at Cherokee are friendly and everyone came over to talk to me. I played sand volleyball, was invited to supper, and went to the dance. Almost every single person there (40 or so) came over to greet me and talk with me since they knew I was visiting there for the first time.

Folks, do you remember the first time you went on a nudist resort? Does everyone became to know you personnaly on the first day???

I have visited nudists resorts many times and most people just mind their business. They are there to relax.

[baregreg]

Also, the way the post was made looks homophobic :"I am a heterosexual man with four children and everyone knows my orientation including the one who assaulted me..."


How is that statement in any way homophobic?

[Eric6420]

How is that statement in any way homophobic?

Well, excuse me for the quote, he was getting married in 4 weeks (I thought he had 4 kids to make the story more dramatic), anyway he is maybe even a virgin...

The bottom line is that the story is not very credible and it is very clear where he wants to go with it.

[David77]

Almost every single person there (40 or so) came over to greet me and talk with me since they knew I was visiting there for the first time.

Extraordinary!

[NakedSailor]

Eric6420, is sounds to me that you are the one that is either gay and therefore defending the gay population or homophobic and see homophobia where none was intended. Not that I care either way but I think you need to back off and give the guy the benefit of the doubt.

Perhaps the story is true he just isn't very good at writing and expressing himself in text and therefore his story comes across as unbelievable????

[Eric6420]

Extraordinary!

Exactly! Now we have a single young man, a month before marriage, and he goes alone a nice nudist resort. He is very warmly welcomed, and then he is sexualy assaulted by a man in the middle of the night.

I think that if I was his girlfriend, I would not trust a man who prefer to sleep alone in a nice nudist resort rather than with me.

[Eric6420]

Eric6420, is sounds to me that you are the one that is either gay and therefore defending the gay population or homophobic and see homophobia where none was intended. Not that I care either way but I think you need to back off and give the guy the benefit of the doubt.

Perhaps the story is true he just isn't very good at writing and expressing himself in text and therefore his story comes across as unbelievable????

I am not the only one here who finds his post suspect. I do not see homophobia where there is none. I have a lot of experience with malicious posts, and I know what I am talking about. Do you remember Bobx last year? I was one of the first to discover that there was a problem with that man. Maybe that I react a little fast, but I am not even the first here to doubt about this story.

[Eric6420]

We have an adult man who was naked ouside in the middle of the night. Another man pass by and told the man that he had a nice dick and he want to have sex with him, he insisted but the first man leaves and then call it sexual assault. What a trauma...

[EricNY]

We all get it....

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