Inappropriate Behavior at the Beach

[maninflipflops]

I have only been going to nude beaches for three summers, so I am no expert. But isn't urinating in public inappropriate? Just last weekend a man stood by the water peeing. He was not holding his penis, mind you, but he was standing by the water urinating in full view. I was really annoyed at that. Should I have said something to him?

[Journeyman]

Yes, urinating in public, even at a nude beach, is definitely inappropriate. Personal toilet activities should be kept in a private environment.

Sadly, there are normally not any security persons on a nude beach, and it's a difficult call to decide whether or not to set someone straight about inappropriate conduct. I agree this is an aggravating situation and these people are simply ignorant and ill-mannered,to say the least.

[nudenwv]

it's not only inappropriate but unhealthy especially if others were swimming in the water! if there were are any officials located at the beach i think i'd bring it to their attention. obviously this guy has no kooth.

[bullet]

In the U.S. it would definitely be inappropriate. Maybe in other parts of the world, it's normal. He could have been a European or something and meant no harm by it but not something I'd want to see.

[Bushnud2]

The best etiquette, or Kooth, or manners, would be to simply swim in the shallow water while this event was happening. Agree all above.
This is also a problem for inland Forest Bare Bushwalkers/Free Hikers, but then we have handy trees.............

[nudeM]

Maybe this guy should have just gone in the water and pee'd in it. Nobody would've noticed and nothing would've been said. Afterall, isn't that what most people do, especially since there are no facilities around? Just curious.

[Christian]

In re: to the above, it's not necessarily unhealthy since it is just urine. It may put people off. If he had to go maybe he should have just gone in the water or at the very least been more discreet. I live at the beach and can tell you that one often finds oneself out on the beach away from a bathroom when it is needed. You make due. Heck, I've known folks to to do more than urinate back in the dunes and then bury it. Similar to when camping I guess. Everyone pees, everyone poops. At least he wasn't peeing on you. :laugh:

[maninflipflops]

Now, what about seeing men having oral sex on the beach, or men looking around and masturbating? I've seen it several times and it seems to be increasing.

[Stu2630]

Now, what about seeing men having sex with oral sex on the beach, or men looking around and masturbating? I've seen it several times and it seems to be increasing.

Several times? Increasing? I have never seen any such behaviour on a textile beach - EVER!

Stu

[FireProf]

Now, what about seeing men having oral sex on the beach, or men looking around and masturbating? I've seen it several times and it seems to be increasing.

Then you say something!!!! This and simular actions have been the cause of us having to fight for our nude beach at San Onofre, in Northern San Diego County, California. Too many times naturists just turn their heads and say nothing...........worse yet........some of them will watch the entire incident and then complain about it.

Should you have said something to the guy urinating into the ocean?........YES, a simple..."ya know, what you're doing may be done by others but not in the manner you're doing it. How 'bout getting in the water where no one can tell what you're doing or......go find a bush to water!"

In the case of those involved in sexual activity; You should also say something to them such as ..........."Your actions are the reason we are losing places to go nude and we'd appreciate it if you'd stop." WE belong to a group that tries to police the beach at San Onofre. When I have them, I pass out flyers to newbies and especially to those I see pushing the envelop in regards to public sex.

My wife told this one couple........."just because we are naked doesn't give you the right to do something in front of me that you wouldn't otherwise. Knock off the mutual masterbation or I'll call the rangers and you'll get a ticket and kicked off the beach." They not only stopped, they packed up and left.

A few weeks ago, we visited San O and saw this couple getting close to doing something. Three of us guys just stood up and looked over at the guy. At first he thought we just wanted to watch but less than a minute later he stopped, changed his position and said something to his female friend. He got back up and sat in his chair........we sat back down and there wasn't anymore hanky panky over there the rest of the day.

So many fear confrontation but you don't always have to be confrontational. A simple explanation and request for them to respect others around them is usually enough to get most to stop. In all our years of visits to the beach and to resorts, we've only had a hand full of confrontations and it's never gotten physical........mostly just heated words from the offending party. Doesn't bother us, at least they stopped.

[RalphVa]

That's not right, urinating at the water's edge.

I've gone while sitting in the sand where no one could see what I was doing.

[Bob S.]

I agree with those who said that he should have just gone out into the water to do his business if he had to go that bad. A lot of people, especially children, urinate in the ocean while at the beach. When I was young, I did it on a number of occasions. It beat having to get out, disrupt my fun time, walk to the bathrooms, and deal with my wet suit.

Stu: "I have never seen any such behaviour on a textile beach - EVER!"

That's because textile beaches usually have lifeguards and other officials as well as being major public areas. Nude beaches are typically just the opposite. They rarely have lifeguards or officials who scout the area for inappropriate behaviour (unless they are trying to catch naked people) and are usually in out-of-the-way areas.

Bob S.

[florida-david]

When my son was young (like 6 yrs old) we were at Haulover and he needed to pee, so i told him to go in the water and pee. So he walked so that his feet were covered in the water and stood there pee-ing. I noticed this and walked toward him and told him i meant for him to get fully in the water and pee, but he was pretty much done at that point. The people on the beach laughed and smiled (it was a busy day too), but that was because he was a cute little kid. An adult should know better, though honestly, i don't see the big deal. Pee is relatively harmless, unless you are a bush. I don't recommend peeing on bushes as some of them will die from the pee. Better to pee on a tree, less likely to be harmed. Some people advocate peeing in nature rather than flush 1.6 gallons down the drain. I would recommend a non public location and not peeing on bushes.

As for sexual activity, i think it happens a lot on beaches - AT NIGHT under the cover of darkness. I would not recommend it on a nudist beach (day or night), do it on a textile beach so as to not hurt the nudist reputation. Not that i would ever do that . :) ;)

[Home Nudist]

I have a question: A number of people have suggested peeing in the water. Is this water that people swim in? Is this considered acceptable? I would think it would not be.

I realize that urine is supposed to be sterile when it leaves the bladder, but the idea of swimming in pee soup is a little off-putting to me.

When I was a kid, we went to a farm where the farmer had widened a RUNNING brook to create a swimming-picnic area, and he charged a small fee for its use. We kids swam (in bathing suits) and were instructed by our parents that it was OK to pee in the water. Since it was RUNNING water, it seemed logical to me. I never wondered what the adults were doing, but I assume now they did the same thing.

Does this practice (of peeing in the water) depend on whether or not the water is running, or is a huge lake, or is a swimming pool?

Just curious.

[Naturist Mark]

I have a question: A number of people have suggested peeing in the water. Is this water that people swim in? Is this considered acceptable? I would think it would not be.

I realize that urine is supposed to be sterile when it leaves the bladder, but the idea of swimming in pee soup is a little off-putting to me.

When I was a kid, we went to a farm where the farmer had widened a RUNNING brook to create a swimming-picnic area, and he charged a small fee for its use. We kids swam (in bathing suits) and were instructed by our parents that it was OK to pee in the water. Since it was RUNNING water, it seemed logical to me. I never wondered what the adults were doing, but I assume now they did the same thing.

Does this practice (of peeing in the water) depend on whether or not the water is running, or is a huge lake, or is a swimming pool?

Just curious.

To be sure a LOT of people will pee in any water. Pool chemistry is designed to deal with urine. Yech!

Urine is actually pretty harmless (usually), just gross. In the ocean or lake of any size its effect is negligible. But please not in the pool.

-Mark

[Sanslines]

Maybe this guy should have just gone in the water and pee'd in it. Nobody would've noticed and nothing would've been said. Afterall, isn't that what most people do, especially since there are no facilities around? Just curious.

If this is Gunnison Beach (Sandy Hook) then men do go to the water's edge and pee into the water. The nearest toilet facilities are a long hike away as they are located near the road and parking lot. Those with some basic consideration for others walk south far away from the crowds and where no one is swimming in the ocean. Those who don't care just walk straight out from where the majority of people congregate and don't seem to care if someone is in the water 5 feet away. Just goes to show that there are still plenty of uncivilized people out there.

There are enough regulars at this beach who do speak up and look out for each other and so this 'problem' is under control.

[Sanslines]

Now, what about seeing men having oral sex on the beach, or men looking around and masturbating? I've seen it several times and it seems to be increasing.

What is the name of this beach where all of this increasing activity is occuring??

[wantago9]

Early this summer I did saw one guy pee nearby his spot and he was standing up. I was like didn't he forget to lift one of his leg? You know how dogs goes. But, it was not a good sight, either. I did thought about going up to him and asking him not to do this again. Thanks for bring this up to our attention.

[Sanslines]

Goodness! Why don't people just walk out into the ocean and discreetly PEE? :D

Have you been to Gunnison Beach? You can see all of the ships coming in from all over the world to dock at the NY and NJ ports. That water is d.i.r.t.y. No wonder no one wants to go into the ocean to take a pee. The water can also be c.o.l.d. lol......lol

[JeepNude]

I have never seen any such behaviour on a textile beach - EVER!

Stu

I have. And worse. You must be blinded by the sun reflecting off all the shiny lycra and spandex swimsuits.

Most recent- My wife and I were strolling along Goat Rock beach (textile required) and there was a guy in a yellow speedo all over this girl. They were apparently just finishing and he rolld over and pulled his suit back up above his erection, unable to conceal it completely. We made eye contact, I shot him a 'you slimebag' look, he just smiled and tipped his sunglasses as if he thought he was some studmuffin for what he just did in public view. BTW, two kids were making a sandcastle less than 50 feet away. Scuzbag!!

I have not seen a direct sex act on a nude beach, ever. But textile, I have. And each time, it was sick.

We don't live by the beach anymore, and we are both pretty glad.

[nuovonudo]

Now, what about seeing men having oral sex on the beach, or men looking around and masturbating? I've seen it several times and it seems to be increasing.

not that urinating in plain view isn't a problem (it definitely is ... and suggests that the perp was uncouth, if not a downright sociopath).

but guys acting out sexually on the beach is a big problem. if you've seen this behavior, manin, i hope you have reported it to competent authorities. that behavior is totally unacceptable in any public setting. the guys who do it know that, and either don't care, or are deliberately getting their (perverse) jollies.

[Running Bear]

This is a strange thread. The conclusion reached by many is that urinating in public view (naturist) is offensive. While I accept that urinating in public (textile) view is offensive due to context; I cannot see how the same applies in a naturist setting.
It is common to urinate at the side of the road (textile) in discrete public view (speaking as a man) and I presume ladies need to facilitate in a discrete way as well. On a naturist beach or on a naturist walk (clubs often have toilets) it would be acceptable to pee in full view since we are tolerant of the naked body. Many naturist toilets are open and men share the toliets with ladies and accept ladies viewing them peeing in urinals. Why is this a problem?
I accept urinating in an aggressive and exhibitionist way is unacceptable but it does not have to be discreet (naturist context) as it is an essential natural process similar to menstruation. We all do it so why the hang-ups?
Men always seem to have a need to pee against something and women always seem to hide behind something regardless of the context :-)
Many naturist beaches have no facilities so we all pee in the sea. Although I accept it may be prudent to bury the genetaili under the sea-level but this may be inappropriate if you are a non-swimmer.
...off to reflect on what an aggressive pee would constitute :-)

[Pete Knight]

If you find urinating in full public view to be offensive then don't even consider coming to Europe, not so much UK as we have the same attitude here, but in France and Germany its not unusual to see urinating in public.

Pete Knight

[Naturist4Ever]

Also in Europe urinating in public is thought of as offensive, but that simply doesn't stop many people doing it, we have seen plenty of GROSS examples. Attitudes play a big role. Bizarre subject really.

When it comes to sex and variants, be aware that nudists are generally far more aware of their surroundings and what happens around them then textiles. So it is not suprising that nudists do tend to see more of the good - and bad - on any beach or park compared to clueless rabbits and headless chickens on any textile ground.

>> I have never seen any such behaviour on a textile beach - EVER!

That is what I mean. But it happens all over, on not just on beaches, in parks, on the street, everywhere. Just open your eyes.

[alfredr]

How natural is acceptable in our naturism?

Runningbare seems to be willing to accept a little more 'natural' activity than many others. I have about 20 acres (about 8 hectares) of hills and trees where I can pee anywhere I happen to be. I figure I am saving water by not using the toilet and flushing and am returning nutrients to the environment, but I wouldn't defecate outside, even though it would be just as natural. If there is ever anyone around, my son (21) or my wife, I will step away from them and turn away before I pee. But if I were in a more social situation, I would certainly use facilities if there were any, or be even more discreet.

But even in our naturism, going completely natural in our behavior is not acceptable, at least in a social situation. There are some things we don't want you to share with us. Different people have different levels of what they don't want shared. Some don't want you to pee where they can see what you are doing, some are okay with it, depending on the circumstances, e.g. on a nature hike. And there are some people who just don't want to see naked bodies even though we think it is okay. We call them 'textiles.'

[Stu2630]

JeepNude

I have been to hundreds of beaches where i have seen thousands of people and never once seen anyone engaging in sex, whether I was wearing my old Spandex wetsuit or just a pair of shorts and a shirt. So maybe you were just unlucky.

I have certainly never witnessed the sort of behaviour described on this thread and which occurred on a nudist beach, namely "men having sex with oral sex on the beach, or men looking around and masturbating?" And the author reports that he has "seen it several times and it seems to be increasing". If this sort of thing does occur on nudist beaches, and is increasing in frequency, then nudists need to own up to the problem and deal with the miscreants. If you don't, that kind of thing will ruin the reputation of naturism and deter families from enjoying it.

Stu

[Sanslines]

We don't even know the name of this beach. I have asked the question and am still awaiting an answer.

[tinner666]

To be blunt, I've seen more of this in textile settings in 40+ years of camping, hiking, fishing, etc. Sex, pissing in public, doing one or both with children around! And the kids were watching too!
Out of curiousity, we visited a nudist resort. NONE of this behavior existed. We went to 2 nude,illegal, beaches and saw none of this activity. You nudists that haven't done as much textile activity we had done don't realize the filth you've missed.

Naturists are much more polite as a whole that textiles. My observations.

[Running Bear]

How natural is acceptable in our naturism?

Runningbare seems to be willing to accept a little more 'natural' activity than many others. I have about 20 acres (about 8 hectares) of hills and trees where I can pee anywhere I happen to be. I figure I am saving water by not using the toilet and flushing and am returning nutrients to the environment, but I wouldn't defecate outside, even though it would be just as natural. If there is ever anyone around, my son (21) or my wife, I will step away from them and turn away before I pee. But if I were in a more social situation, I would certainly use facilities if there were any, or be even more discreet.

But even in our naturism, going completely natural in our behavior is not acceptable, at least in a social situation. There are some things we don't want you to share with us. Different people have different levels of what they don't want shared. Some don't want you to pee where they can see what you are doing, some are okay with it, depending on the circumstances, e.g. on a nature hike. And there are some people who just don't want to see naked bodies even though we think it is okay. We call them 'textiles.'
Of course taken out of context this seems strange. I am a climber and spend a lot of time in the-great-outdoors' as well as leading a naturist rambling group.
It is common to pee and defecate (if out for several days) in nature. There are no facilities. A cat-hole (not sure why it is called a cat-hole?) is created and faeces buried. Even if done in a textile environment privacy is often difficult. On the cairngorms (uk mountain area) the council have requested that fecaes is not buried but distributed on the surface due to the environmentally vulnerable soil structure.
What I do not agree with is that normal body functions are always offensive. I am specifically excluding inappropriate excretion like peeing in a letterbox, defecating on somebodies car roof, peeing on a toad (uk small amphibian frequents moorland). Peeing in a swimming pool is obviously a need for offensive behaviour rules to be applied.
Actually I like to pee and defacate alone and find the communal toilets a little off-putting.
...but when you gotta go you gotto go.

[Home Nudist]

There are no facilities. A cat-hole (not sure why it is called a cat-hole?) is created and feces buried.
Trivia: While cats will urinate to mark their territory, they usually bury their feces to hide it from predators. That's why the house cat is so good at using his litter box: Instinct.

[NudeTopher]

Now, what about seeing men having oral sex on the beach, or men looking around and masturbating? I've seen it several times and it seems to be increasing.

Sorry nudies, but my credibility alarm is going off big time.

In at least one other thread, this poster has mentioned the he goes to Lighthouse Beach. If he is talking about Lighthouse Beach then there is a problem with his story. In the first place I have gone to Lighthouse Beach frequently for the past 8 summers and have never seen this type of activity. Furthermore, Lighthouse Beach is patrolled by both Suffolk County Police - Marine Division riding ATV's and driving 4 x4 pick-up trucks. Between the SCPD patrols there are patrols by federal Park Rangers since the beach is part of that National Seashore. Also, the FOLB (Friends of Lighthouse Beach) do a great job watching the beach, communicating with the Park Rangers, and keeping the beach free from gawkers.

Of course, the OP didn't mention the name of the beach he was attending. But there are only two other choices - Smith Point Beach and Sandy Hook over in New Jersey. Smith Point has similar patrols, although less frequent, then Lighthouse so it's doubful he saw oral activity there. It must be difficult to perform/receive oral and keep an eye out for the authorities. I've only been to New Jersey's Sandy Hook a couple of times. But, that beach is so well patrolled and has big crowds I can't imagine getting a blow-job on that beach either.

Perhaps the poster took a nap and was dreaming of blow-jobs.

[Cheri]

Speaking up at any nudist environment will help us keep those venues we have. More people should.

Cheri

[Sanslines]

I've only been to New Jersey's Sandy Hook a couple of times. But, that beach is so well patrolled and has big crowds I can't imagine getting a blow-job on that beach either.


There is a core group of regulars that do speak out against inappropriate behavior and watch out for others at Sandy Hook. I doubt that the described incident occured at Sandy Hook.

The thread initiator should identify the beach so that we can comment appropriately.