Flagrant nudity on Dog Island disturbing

[simonsebs]

Flagrant nudity on Dog Island disturbing (http://www.sptimes.com/2006/09/24/Northpinellas/Flagrant_nudity_on_Do.shtml)

I found myself happy, then confused after reading this. Feel free to explain it to me.

[simonsebs]

Flagrant nudity on Dog Island disturbing (http://www.sptimes.com/2006/09/24/Northpinellas/Flagrant_nudity_on_Do.shtml)

I found myself happy, then confused after reading this. Feel free to explain it to me.

[james423]

Be happy. The superintendent didn't feel the need to appease the one person complaining. Apparently the only people disturbed by the nudity are the one complainant and the author of the article. The superintendent appears to view it as harmless fun.
The references back to 26 years earlier are a bit confusing, but some laws that were in efect at that time have been overturned & it might actually be that the superintendent was correct in his assessment of the law at that time and of the law at the present time -the law in 1980 might have made mere nudity at Dog Island illegal at that time, but that law might not be in effect any more & there may now be no law making the nudity illegal on Dog Island.

[Fuzzy Nuts]

Dont know if I would describe my self as a flagrant nudist when I am stark naked but sure hope so.

[Nude in the North]

How can nudity be Flagrant??
Your either nude or your not.

Steve

[NakedGary]

If you will look closer to the article the first two or the oldest mention is 26 years ago on September 25th, and 29th, 1980.

This article was published September 26th this year 2006.

No mention of the ordinances or laws was mentioned during the last 26 years.

The women who wanted to take children to the island, and the times reporter called the nudity Flagrant.

Description of "Flagrant"

flagrant
One entry found for flagrant.

Main Entry: fla·grant
Pronunciation: 'flA-gr&nt also 'fla-
Function: adjective
Etymology: Latin flagrant-, flagrans, present participle of flagrare to burn -- more at BLACK
1 archaic : fiery hot : BURNING
2 : conspicuously offensive <flagrant errors>; especially : so obviously inconsistent with what is right or proper as to appear to be a flouting of law or morality <flagrant violations of human rights>
- fla·grant·ly adverb
synonyms FLAGRANT, GLARING, GROSS, RANK mean conspicuously bad or objectionable. FLAGRANT applies usually to offenses or errors so bad that they can neither escape notice nor be condoned <flagrant abuse of the office of president>. GLARING implies painful or damaging obtrusiveness of something that is conspicuously wrong, faulty, or improper <glaring errors>. GROSS implies the exceeding of reasonable or excusable limits <gross carelessness>. RANK applies to what is openly and extremely objectionable and utterly condemned <rank heresy>.

Most textiles do not understand simple plain social nudity or nude recreation as being natural, non sexual and benificial no matter what age, or gender.
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[NudistGuy47]

Another instance of people being stupid. To complain when the people were merely being nude, offshore (even if only a few yards) is insanity. There appears to be a long time use of the island for nude sunbathing, so the complaintant must have heard over the time people do that sort of thing there. She should not have been surprised. My kudos to the park superintendent letting it go and not sending people to the island to arrest the sunbathers/swimmers. It would be a waste of resources to occupy the force based on one complaint.

[Stu2630]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Most textiles do not understand simple plain social nudity or nude recreation as being natural, non sexual and benificial no matter what age, or gender. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

We understand your perception of nudity as being natural and beneficial etc. We just don't agree with it.

Stu

[oldbob]

The real problem is that all those people were cavorting. Now if they had just been prancing it would have been okay. But we just can't have cavorting in Florida.

Seriously though. If you read the byline at the bottom it says "Pinellas History is compiled by Times staff writer Theresa Blackwell."

This all happened over a quarter of a century ago.

Bob

[emsdude]

Just one for the nudist side, maybe everyone will wake up and see going to a beach nude is not so bad after all,Would they like to see the kids at the beach having fun or causing touble for someone.Later and keep it nude.

[Jason Lee]

7 arrested for nude bathing on Dog Island

DUNEDIN - Seven nude sunbathers were arrested on a crowded sandspit northwest of Dunedin's Honeymoon Island early Sunday afternoon in a raid by four plainclothes sheriff's deputies.

Sheriff's spokesman Merrell Stebbins said the seven were charged with indecent exposure, a misdemeanor. All of the persons arrested - six men and one woman - were charged at the scene and then released on their own recognizance, Stebbins said.

Stebbins acknowledged that among the 50 or so clothed and unclothed bathers, some without suits eluded arrest. But he said catching them all was impossible.

"With the first arrest," Stebbins said, "the others were running off and getting dressed. It would have been impossible to identify later which ones were dressed and which were not."


[Note: the above arrest report dates back the the 1980's. The current situation is not as hostile]

[John P]

Here's the NAC listing of the law on "indecent exposure" in Florida.

800.03 Exposure of sexual organs.

It is unlawful to expose or exhibit one's sexual organs in public or on the private premises of another, or so near thereto as to be seen from such private premises, in a vulgar or indecent manner, or to be naked in public except in any place provided or set apart for that purpose. Violation of this section is a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083. A mother's breastfeeding of her baby does not under any circumstance violate this section.

History.--s. 1, ch. 7360, 1917; RGS 5445; CGL 7588; s. 1, ch. 61-51; s. 779, ch. 71-136; s. 3, ch. 93-4.
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[NAC NOTE 1: Courts have held that simple non-lewd nudity does not constitute the "vulgar or indecent manner" required for conviction under Florida Statute 800.03. Some challenged convictions under 800.03 have been thrown out. Authorities have increasingly turned to the use of Florida's disorderly conduct statute (877.03) as a means of restricting simple nudity. SEE NAC NOTE 2.]

Note 2 refers to a case of a woman who was (pretty much as mentioned above) charged with disporderly conduct for being topless. The case was thrown out.

[tinner666]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Stu2630:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Most textiles do not understand simple plain social nudity or nude recreation as being natural, non sexual and benificial no matter what age, or gender. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

We understand your perception of nudity as being natural and beneficial etc. We just don't agree with it.

Disagreeing with a harmless activity is fine. http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/happy.gif
Legislating against it is a waste of resources. http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/confused.gif

Stu </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

[puffledud]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">The real problem is that all those people were cavorting. Now if they had just been prancing it would have been okay. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Is it possible to cavort and not prance?

Cheers

[oldbob]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by puffledud:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">The real problem is that all those people were cavorting. Now if they had just been prancing it would have been okay. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Is it possible to cavort and not prance?

Cheers </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

<span class="ev_code_BLUE">Yes, according to the second definition.</span>

ca·vort (k…-vôrt“) intr.v. ca·vort·ed, ca·vort·ing, ca·vorts. 1. To bound or prance about in a sprightly manner; caper. 2. To have lively or boisterous fun; romp.

[Capt\'n Bluz]

So where exactly is Dog Island? All I could gather is that its on the coast.

[Peter B]

The plot thickens........Prancer is one of the reindeer on Santa"s sleigh.
Can Rudolph be replaced by Cavorter?

One thing, Santa is not known to be a nudist; too cold at that time of the year, so where do we go with all this?

[Ken Palmer]

This is an interesting story. I am glad the Superintendent they interviewed stated "it would be a shame to waste a man out there to arrest nude sunbathers. Like he said, they aren't hurting anyone. And ain't that the truth?

Ken Palmer


<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by simonsebs:
Flagrant nudity on Dog Island disturbing (http://www.sptimes.com/2006/09/24/Northpinellas/Flagrant_nudity_on_Do.shtml)

I found myself happy, then confused after reading this. Feel free to explain it to me. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

[Ken Palmer]

Amen to that!

Ken Palmer


<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by james423:
Be happy. The superintendent didn't feel the need to appease the one person complaining. Apparently the only people disturbed by the nudity are the one complainant and the author of the article. The superintendent appears to view it as harmless fun.
The references back to 26 years earlier are a bit confusing, but some laws that were in efect at that time have been overturned & it might actually be that the superintendent was correct in his assessment of the law at that time and of the law at the present time -the law in 1980 might have made mere nudity at Dog Island illegal at that time, but that law might not be in effect any more & there may now be no law making the nudity illegal on Dog Island. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

[Jason Lee]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Capt'n Bluz:
So where exactly is Dog Island? All I could gather is that its on the coast. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Gulf of Mexico

[Jason Lee]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Capt'n Bluz:
So where exactly is Dog Island? All I could gather is that its on the coast. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Dog Island is located in the northwestern Florida Gulf coast just 3.5 miles off-shore from Carrabelle, Florida in Franklin County, Florida The island is partly sheltering St. George Sound and Apalachicola Bay. It's the eastern-most part of a chain of barrier islands located off the northern panhandle of Florida just offshore from where the Crooked River merges into the Carrabelle River and then into St. George Sound. Other barrier islands in this chain include St Vincent Island, Cape St George Island, and St George Island.

This island is small at 6.8 miles in length, accessible only by boat, ferry or airplane. The Nature Conservancy owns most of the island, while some parts are privately owned residential property.

Currently Dog Island has less than 100 residents.


[note: the Dog Island descrived above is NOT the same dog island discussed in the article, which is uninhabited and located off Honeymoon Island near Dunedin in the Tampa Bay area. -PascoDoug]

[Daveinct]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ken Palmer:
This is an interesting story. I am glad the Superintendent they interviewed stated "it would be a shame to waste a man out there to arrest nude sunbathers. Like he said, they aren't hurting anyone. And ain't that the truth?

Ken Palmer
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

But if you read further, he had to change his position and people were arrested. Although the dates on the 2nd and 3rd articles make them appear to be 26 years old, the context makes it quite clear that they are subsequent to the first.

Dave

[nudebushwalker]

Let's just all cavort and romp and prance - naked, nude and 'au naturel' ...