Nude biker leads trooper on chase in bad weather

[Davin]

A naked man on a motorcycle who crashed with an Arkansas state trooper's cruiser on a night when it was sleeting faces misdemeanor charges

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090211/D969J9RO0.html

[Naturist Mark]

The trooper "bumped" the naked cyclist when he wouldn't pull over?

OMG!

The cyclist was an idiot. But that doesn't in any way justify using lethal force. And that is EXACTLY what "bumping" a motorcycle is - attempted manslaughter.

Not exaggerating in the least.

[Mike2Nude]

Let's change the circumstances a little. The nude man is waving a gun around and not obeying police to put his gun down and they shoot him, is it still attempted murder? Running from the police can put the police and innocent people at risk just as easily.

[Naturist Mark]

Let's change the circumstances a little. The nude man is waving a gun around and not obeying police to put his gun down and they shoot him, is it still attempted murder? Running from the police can put the police and innocent people at risk just as easily.

No, not "just as easily".

If an officer wouldn't be justified in shooting to kill, an officer shouldn't "bump" a cyclist - or a pedestrian - with a multi-ton automobile.

Some of you may recall that I have a bit of insight on the issue.

Turn the circumstances around - if a motorist deliberately tries to hit a police officer who is on foot with their vehicle that is considered a deadly assault and DOES justify shooting to kill in self-defense. This has happened.

[Lord Drakkus]

The man stopped abruptly several times in the street and then sped up quickly, until the trooper bumped him on one of the stops.

This says to me that one of the times the biker/cyclist stopped, the trooper bumped into his bike to disable it. It doesn't seem like they were moving at the time the trooper bumped him. Unfortunately, the story doesn't go into too much detail on the subject.

I too have spent some time on a motorcycle. I also know how precarious it can be, since I dumped it a few times myself. I was never going more than 10 MPH when I dumped it since it was always while turning, but it's a rather frightful experience to be on a bike when things go badly. But, if the bikes not moving, or moving slowly, then there's almost no danger of being injured, since it's fairly easy to just jump off and you don't have to worry about road rash.

[Ken Palmer]

What in the world was this guy thinking and what was his motive? I certainly hope he was not attempting to promote nudism or naturism through his actions. I say this because most nudists are law abiding citizens and do not engage in such acts of irrationalism.

Ken Palmer




A naked man on a motorcycle who crashed with an Arkansas state trooper's cruiser on a night when it was sleeting faces misdemeanor charges

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090211/D969J9RO0.html

[Ken Palmer]

Hey Naturist Mark. It could have been that the cyclist was bumped accidentally by the trooper since it was stated that he stopped abruptly in the middle of the street a few times during the pursuit. Since I obviously wasn't there, this is just my guess.

Ken Palmer



The trooper "bumped" the naked cyclist when he wouldn't pull over?

OMG!

The cyclist was an idiot. But that doesn't in any way justify using lethal force. And that is EXACTLY what "bumping" a motorcycle is - attempted manslaughter.

Not exaggerating in the least.

[Naturist Mark]

Hey Naturist Mark. It could have been that the cyclist was bumped accidentally by the trooper since it was stated that he stopped abruptly in the middle of the street a few times during the pursuit. Since I obviously wasn't there, this is just my guess.

Ken Palmer

Agreed - an accidental bump is a completely different kettle of fish.

Drakkus: It makes little difference whether the cyclist is moving or not when "bumped" by a heavy motor vehicle. Trust me. I was "bumped" by a full sized pickup truck while at a stoplight in Sept. 2007. So far it has taken 7 operations and over a quarter million dollars to put me back together - and I was wearing full safety gear - not naked.

[Naturist Mark]

What in the world was this guy thinking and what was his motive? I certainly hope he was not attempting to promote nudism or naturism through his actions. I say this because most nudists are law abiding citizens and do not engage in such acts of irrationalism.

Ken Palmer


Clearly an idiot - and probably chemically impaired. Sleet and cycling is a bad combination - a slide or worse is an obvious possibility. Naked cycling is stupid - a simple fall or slide that you would walk away from dressed properly becomes permanently disfiguring road rash - the equivalent of a severe 2nd and 3rd degree burns.

[nakenone]

I have ridden motorcycles for years,i have been on the ground at least 4 times ,even rode off a bridge in central california.Part of my job is responding to traffic accidents,after the first couple of years i stopped counting the dead ones,This guy got off lite,his problems are self induced no sympathy from me.I love weekends where theres no page for motorcycle down,the stories are many,But officer i did not see the motorcyle,i have not been drinking,i was not speeding,the tree it jumped out in front of me,etc. Riding any bike is risky,we take it anyway,you have to count the cost then ride.Fire dept. BC

[naturalmanwa]

I guess I am going to ask a stupid question: Why was the guy naked and what was he running for? Because he was under the influence to start with? This doesn't sound like an innocent person being victimized by the law.

[walter05]

At least the arresting officer did not have to frisk him.

[Fitz1980]

I guess I am going to ask a stupid question: Why was the guy naked and what was he running for? Because he was under the influence to start with? This doesn't sound like an innocent person being victimized by the law.

You are correct that a drunk naked guy on a bike is already breaking two laws, minimum. But you have to weigh danger he poses vs danger of what they did, that's why cops don't just shoot kids who run away when the cop catches them spray painting a wall. Bumping a car to stop it is one thing, bumping a bike is something else. It's potentially life threatening and shouldn't be done unless he poses an immediate risk.

[Naturist Mark]

LOL, here is what a naked cyclist with FULL safety gear looks like.