Urinal rules

[walter05]

I just came back from shopping. While at a Wal Mart, I needed to urinate.

I went into the men's room, unzipped, pulled out my penis and proceeded to urinate.

A younger male, perhaps in his 20s, came in and said "Oh My".

I asked what the problem was and he said I was standing so he could see everything.

I told him I don't stand so close that urine splatters on my clothes. I also pointed out that in a men's room, one should not be surprised to see a penis urinating.

He did not say anything at that point.

My question for the guys is this. Is it now expected to stand so close that no one can see a penis when a man is urinating?

[Naturist Mark]

I would have been more blunt: "so don't look".

[EZ Nude]

I stand close to the urinal. Not only will you have the occasional gay man, (not that there is anything wrong with that,) standing next to you, staring at your junk, but also young boys. All you need is a 6 or 7 year old walk out of a public bathroom and tell his mother he just saw a mans penis. She starts asking questions and the penis sighting gets embellished. You know what happens next. I'm sorry. It's the times we live in.

[Dolby]

I'd say do whatever works for you and don't worry about it - so long as you're not standing clear across the other side of the men's room!

[walter05]

EZ;

If a boy in a men's room is going to be shocked seeing a penis urinating, then we have real problems.

I remember the men's rooms in stadiums that typically had a long trough. There might be a hundred penises, no dividers, peeing in it at the same time.

Also, who cares if a gay guy looks.

[chgonude77]

I stand close to the urinal. Not only will you have the occasional gay man, (not that there is anything wrong with that,) standing next to you, staring at your junk, but also young boys. All you need is a 6 or 7 year old walk out of a public bathroom and tell his mother he just saw a mans penis. She starts asking questions and the penis sighting gets embellished. You know what happens next. I'm sorry. It's the times we live in.


Being a gay man myself, I can assure you that I do not go "looking for penises" in the mens room. I urinate, wash my hands, and exit the facility.

[Naturist Mark]

Being a gay man myself, I can assure you that I do not go "looking for penises" in the mens room. I urinate, wash my hands, and exit the facility.

Apparently there is a belief that if a gay man sees your penis, you'll catch teh gay. Thus the need to outlaw peeing.

[finchick]

actually i'm quite shocked that we even need to discuss this. i think that guy wasn't quite right in his mind. and why did HE look at you?

[EricNY]

Are we this desperate for something to talk about that this is a topic?

My God

[FireProf]

Seems so.....here.


:(

[Nakednurse]

Two words BUFFER URINAL

:laugh:

[NudeAl]

Most Amierican males are woussies when it comes to the urinal. There is so much rampant homophobia or whatever that they are afraid to piss. When I was in Australia they had the trough urinal on a step sort of a waterfall situation where several guys could stand and piss. Most of the Americans I was with were unwilling to use it prefering to wait for the one toilet to piss. The Austrailians thought it was hillarious.

[Big-Thinker]

Yeah, its getting weirder and weirder, I think. Somehow nudity, even same gender nudity in conventional contexts like locker rooms, showers, bathrooms has become so sexualized over the last couple decades. I wonder how those kids who enlist in the army handle the showers nowadays?

In parts of Europe, Taiwan (I just know because I visited there) and probably much of the world, the male has no expectation of privacy from males OR females. I was at a rest stop in Taiwan with a wall of urinals in very clear and open view of females walking by, and also urinated in a state park unisex bathroom and a woman just casually walked by to the stall behind me.

And by the way, this isn't the only way that modern American males are wussies... but that's another topic.

[PaulFa]

I agree, what are we talking about this for, it's a restroom?

[eagle59]

It seems as though we americans are becoming more and more afraid of everything. Last summer I went to a local state park that has a swimming facility and I was in the mens rest room changing for the trip home. The rest room has extended stalls so that you can change in private but all were occupied. Not wanting to wait, I went to the bench on the side of the room and proceeded to change. I was drying off before putting my dry clothes back on when a man came out of one of the stalls and looked at me in horor at me standing nude and drying off in the mens rest room and got a disgusted look on his face and rudely said "Ugh, do you mind?". I looked at him and said "No, not really. Why?". He huffed and stomped out of the rest room. Several others came and went durring this and all avoided looking in my direction as if they looked they may catch something or die. It was really funny in a way. I mean really, who would expect to see a naked man in the mens rest room at the swimming hole. that is just silly.

[David77]

In 2003, when I arrived at the men's restroom in Paris, (the one closest to Notra Dame Cathedral), the woman attendant inside the restroom in clear view of the urinals, asked me a question in the French language. Seeing that I did not understand what she was saying, she then asked me, "Pee, pee?" (I should have answered "No, poo, poo". However I merely answered "no" and pointed to the stalls of commodes.
I started into a commode stall on the right side of the room, but the woman attendant became excitedly bossy and directed that I must use the one on the left side of the room.

A woman in the men's restroom would not happen in the USA, unless at a nudist resort - or unless on some rare occasion some bold woman at the ball stadium got tired of waiting in line to get into the woman's restroom so collectively "invaded" the men's restroom.

[FreeinNJ]

Are we this desperate for something to talk about that this is a topic?

My God

seems so :shrug:

[salierrie]

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My question for the guys is this. Is it now expected to stand so close that no one can see a penis when a man is urinating?

In the middle east, this is the rule :D :D

[walter05]

I think that we have arrived at a new definition of nudist. Males that shower in unisex locker rooms, change in unisex locker rooms, and use urinals are now so far from the emerging standard that they can start to be considered nudists.

I had never encountered the paranoia I did that day. If this is the emerging social expectation, then we have a lot of problems.

[mmacdonaldca]

splash-back is the reason I am a stall man myself. But if I were a urinal man, I would tell anyone that happened to be looking in my direction that maybe a camera would help them remember the ocassion better HAHAHA

[Naturist Mark]

splash-back is the reason I am a stall man myself.

Splash-back is what I would expect from huddling so close to urinal, might as well just wizz down your shorts. Or wear diapers (nappies).

[Georgia_Nude]

Are we this desperate for something to talk about that this is a topic?

My God



It may not apply that much in a nudist environment, but as men it is something we have to deal with outside of a nudist environment. And then you have issues such as being 'pee shy.' As someone who can find it difficult to let loose when others are nearby, it's easier on me to stand closer to the urinal, to be able to mentally block other guys out for those few seconds.

I think the whole urinal wall issue has only come about in the last 30 - 40 years. It came with the changing climate of school showers, locker room nudity, etc.

We may be all guys but not all of us think the same way when it comes to urinals.

[David77]

Here is an experiment that may convince you concerning the sanitary problem.

At home, urinate in the regular toilet bowel without any clothes covering your legs. You will feel a splashing spray rebounding on your bare legs which will very much displease you.
Therefore when your legs are clothed by trousers, you will at least try to stand so that any spray will be minimal in hitting your trouser legs.

[five9]

What about man rule. Do any or all of you apply this? Always leaving any empty urinal between people, being as far away as possible from the other male using the urinal, and no talking while urinating. I think all of us here should be comfortable with other male nudity, but who still applies this?

[Lord Drakkus]

What about man rule. Do any or all of you apply this? Always leaving any empty urinal between people, being as far away as possible from the other male using the urinal, and no talking while urinating. I think all of us here should be comfortable with other male nudity, but who still applies this?

Me. I'm fairly nervous in restrooms, don't know how the other men in there would react.

[walter05]

Now, as Paul Harvey would have said, "The Rest of The Story".

We have a nudist friendly conversation going. Men who claim to be nudist friendly are afraid to use a urinal and be seen. Despite the likelihood that as a result, they are urinating on themselves because of the splash, the fear of being seen is bigger.

If we have reached a day when men are afraid to shower lest they be seen by other men, change in an open locker room lest they be seen by other men, or use a urinal lest they be seen by other men, then we are far more prudish than when I was growing up.

I think Stu may be right. Many on here consider themselves "home nudists". They will be naked unless they can be seen.

If we subtract those of us that would have been mainstream in regards to nudity and those of us afraid to be seen, the numbers in these conversations are very small.

If you are afraid that if you are urinating in a men's room someone may see you then I don't think you have a healthy view of the body. I can't believe you could be a nudist.

[Sanslines]

Let's set the record straight, urination (or any other body elimination function) has absolutely NOTHING to do with nudism.

[walter05]

Excessive fear of being seen nude is not nudism either.

Fear of being seen nude when appropriate is not normal much less nudism.

[MoonShadow]

LOL --- this thread has me rolling!

It never ceases to amaze what will be discussed on this forum. LOL

Who on earth cares whether someone is comfortable using an urinal or not. If you are not comfortable with the urinal in the bathroom, use the stall toilet. This is not a biggie.

[DSailing]

There is the splash back thing, but then there are places that always have those nice little pudles on the floor. I think the first few guys stand back to avoid the "splash back" and then dribble a little on the floor. The next few guys see the dribble and stand back even more to not step in it. This goes on through the evening until I come in and stand against the far wall doing the peeing arch to keep from standing in the rising tide.:laugh:

[minitim]

and no talking while urinating.
Hear, hear! Even in a public restroom, there is a need for some privacy. There is plenty of time to talk before and after, so give me a break during the procedure.

[Nakednurse]

I think the bottom line here is that when in a public restroom people will be using said restroom. If you are worried about what you might see or who might see you don't go in there. If you decide to go in any way go in do your thing and leave. Don't be the pee etiquette police just mind your business. If everybody just minded there own business we would be much much better off.

[pothole]

If you are looking at the guy on either side of you when you are peeing you deserve to get splashback or pee on your shoes. I dont look anywhere but where my pee is going.

[David77]

If you are worried about what you might see or who might see you don't go in there.

Or, you could keep your eyes straight ahead and go to a booth and pee in the commode.

I had a friend who could not urinate "in public", (men's restroom) so he always went into the commode stall and closed the door to pee. He had what is commonly called "a bashful bladder syndrome".
He went to a clinical psychologist to try to overcome this situation, but I do not know wheter he overcame it, but I guess not, as I noticed that he still did not urinate in the urinal in the men's restroom to his dying day.

http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/menshealth/facts/paruresis.htm

[richo]

A bar I frequent has small video screens over the urinals to give guys something to look at. I always thought they should tie it in to some kind of "performance" video game, but then, I'm weird.

[Procrastinator]

...... and no talking while urinating.

Unless you are using These urinals (http://www.urinal.net/pa_farmshow/), at the Pennsylvania State Farm Show. In this men's room, two rows of urinals face each other. It sees very heavy use during the Farm Show. You almost have to make eye contact with the guy in front of you, because where else is there to look? Down? To either side? I guess you could always tilt your head back and study the ceiling. :blush:

There's a truth-is-stranger-than-fiction story to that picture. I took it at the 2001 Farm Show. Back then, the bathrooms were usually very crowded, often with lines to get in. I was taken by surprise when all the planets aligned, and I suddenly found myself momentarily alone. Without even thinking, I whipped out my dinosaur of a camera (1.3 MP Olympus), raised it up, made sure it was level (no time to really frame it) and snapped the picture. Less than 5 seconds had passed before more people started coming in. I quickly shoved the camera in my pocket, because taking pictures in public restrooms is kind of frowned upon in some circles.

Fast-forward several years. My wife and I are at the farm where we buy our beef. Spring and fall, the farmer converts his tool shop to a meat cutting facility. As they cut your meat up, you package it. During a lull in the process, I was checking out the things on the shelves. A large photograph caught my eye. It was my picture of the urinals at the farm show! I picked it up and found out that the picture was actually the cover of a calendar. One of woody's friends made a gag calendar as a Christmas gift for him. Each month featured a different picture of the friend pretending to take a whiz in different places in Woody's house, such as his dresser drawers, the refrigerator, etc. And I thought I had a strange sense of humor.

I tried to explain to Woody, that it was my picture on the cover, but I couldn't quite get him to understand. "Woody, that's my picture! I took it at the farm show." "Yeah, Bill said it was from the Farm Show." "No Woody, I took it at the Farm Show and sent it into urinal.net." "Yeah, Bill said he got it from a web site. Maybe it's the same one where you saw it. Did you print yourself a copy? That sure is a neat picture" "Never mind, Woody. Never mind"

Joe

[Big-Thinker]

A bar I frequent has small video screens over the urinals to give guys something to look at. I always thought they should tie it in to some kind of "performance" video game, but then, I'm weird.

In this here college town's many bars, you always have interesting and hillarious graffiti to look at while urinating!

[Big-Thinker]

If you are looking at the guy on either side of you when you are peeing you deserve to get splashback or pee on your shoes. I dont look anywhere but where my pee is going.

Same here - I just concentrate on angling things right and gettimg the job done, ignoring those around me.

[David77]

Procrastinator writes;
at the Pennsylvania State Farm Show. In this men's room, two rows of urinals face each other.

In the small convention center at our county's Farmer's Show, the men's room has two long metal urinal troughs back-to-back, so that the men must face one another while immodestly urinating, with the open view of all the men's penis at the troughs.

[jhawk]

We have a college bar where there is one way glass above the urinals looking out at the bar.

[Nude in the North]

I went to a "college" bar once where the waiting line for the girls room had to stand outside the mens room, and it had a clear view of the guys at the urinals.

The place was always packed according to people I knew that went there a lot.

Months later I went there again to find they had built out a wall to block the view in the mens room.

Soon the place closed.

Coincidence?

[desk]

There is or used to be Quinn's bar someplace in the South Pacific that had coed facilities.

[steve-o]

When I was in France the toilets in public areas -- bars, gymnasiums, etc.. -- were co-ed. Many girls and women came in and saw me urinating on their way to their stalls. Nobody stared of course, it was all completely normal. This was in a smaller city 80 miles outside Paris and it was about 20 years ago.

Anyway, to respond the original question: Just ignore it and don't make a big deal out it. I've had the same experience where very young boys are fascinated at the larger size of a man's penis compared to the own. They look on with normal curiosity. I just ignore them and finish, zip up, wash up and leave. No big deal.

[five9]

When I was in France the toilets in public areas -- bars, gymnasiums, etc.. -- were co-ed.
Now that you bring this up, I remember back when i was maybe 7 or 8 years old, going shopping with my mom and having to go to the restroom just to find out that they were remodeling them. Just a few doors down they opened up another restroom for the public to use, and i remember the male and female logo on the front of the door. What specifically stands out from this memory is the 4 urinals, one which was being occupied by a man and one by me, 4 stalls, in which there was a woman in one of them, and one woman washing her hands when i walked in. This is something that happened in the US too, i don't think i would have ever expected this to happen or to have males and females share the same restroom in the US.

[gideon]

I have tavelled the world and have had no problem following the local customs regarding sanitary arrangements.I am now retired and live in France (originally from UK) and come to accept that unisex 'loos' are normal and aceptable, a bit disconcerting though when on one occasion, using a trough type, there was a very young girl standing at the end lookng all the way down the row of gents, her mother had left her while she used a pedastal wc behind us, but no one seemed to worry about it and just carried on. Yes, many facilities out here are bi-sexual and no one is fazed out by it, neither are they fazed out when men are seen in the open urinating at the grass verge or against a wall, some churches even have a gents facility attached to the outside wall for this very purpose.