Nudists and Skin Cancer

[Stu2630]

My eldest daughter is a hospital doctor, and she was recently talking to a dermatologist about skin cancer. The dermatologist dropped out that, in her experience, nudists rarely die of skin cancer. The reason, apparently, is that their partners and families are constantly seeing their "whole skin" and can spot something unusual very early, and early diagnosis and treatment of skin cancer has a very favorable prognosis.

So don't say that I only ever spout negative things about nudism. ;)

Stu

[Boreas]

Holy cow! shocked

So, are you going to convert now? :)

[Stu2630]

Boreas

The last time I "converted" was when I was 13, and I haven't really got over that, yet! ;)

Seriously, though, I have always known and accepted that there are some real advantages to living a nudist lifestyle, although practitioners do sometimes overstate them. The early detection of skin cancer, which is a dreadful illness, growing problem in the developed world, is certainly a big plus for nudism in my book.

Stu

[Boreas]

Well, perhaps this conversion will help you finally get over that other conversion. (what a crappy age for that one!)

This one will also be more fun.


You can do it!

[Stu2630]

Boreas

Well, perhaps this conversion will help you finally get over that other conversion. (what a crappy age for that one!)

It was a weird 'conversion'! You see people looking at you that haven't seen you for a while and can't work out how they know you because you're not the same sex as they remember. I also had momentary forgetfulness which can lead to embarrassment. 15-year-old boys don't usually blunder into the girls toilets, or stop to examine displays of girls' tops in clothes stores.

This one will also be more fun.

Nudism is fun? Really? I really have a problem working out what you get out of it that makes it so much more 'fun' than, say, wearing a swimsuit.

The things I find to be fun usually cost me money! :confused:

Stu

[baregreg]

The things I find to be fun usually cost me money! :confused:

Stu
But being naked is free. By the way I've joined you in the "RED" rep dept. Just a hint. Don't say anything bad about Mike Jackson. I went from 10+ greens to a bad boy with red now.:)

[Stu2630]

By the way I've joined you in the "RED" rep dept. Just a hint. Don't say anything bad about Mike Jackson. I went from 10+ greens to a bad boy with red now

Ah, but my red patch says I'm "infamous around these parts" :D I'm the Billy the Kid of the Clothes Free Forum.

For what it's worth, I never saw any talent in Michael Jackson - his music left me cold. But then I'm more a classical and opera fan.

Stu

[Boreas]

The things I find to be fun usually cost me money! :confused:


Well, nudism could cost you a lot of money if you chose to take trips to exotic locales, or it could be cheap/free. Your choice. :D

[thestrokes44]

thats not cool at all :/

[maliakei]

I don't care about being tan. Too much sun exposure is no good. I don't want to look 70 when I turn 50.

[baregreg]

Do a google search for the dangers of these sunblock/sunscreen products.

I've never used them and the and never will. I'm 55 years old.

Just use common sense and expose your skin slowly to the sun.

Take a look at the amount of chemicals that are in these sunscreen block products.

[Boreas]

I have blonde hair, blue eyes and very fair skin. Sunscreen is my friend. In fact I was at a music festival today and it turned out to be sunny. Because I did not have sunscreen with me (duh) I now sport a sunburn. Oh well, since I was wearing jeans and a t-shirt, it is only on my chest, arms and face. When we go back tomorrow, I will have my hat and sunscreen! If not for sunscreen, I would not have been able to enjoy two trips to the Caribbean or to enjoy times out in the sun.

[Stu2630]

It's not so much the act of sunbathing which catches people out - it's more often doing other stuff in the hot sun such as walking or gardening or washing the car, when it doesn't occur to them to slap some suncream on.

I can't believe those parents who allow children to go out in hot sun with no hat and no sunscreen. On a scale of foolishness, it must rate alongside giving a child a cigarette to smoke.

Sunshine is lovely, and we don't se anything like enough of it here in the UK, but you have to treat it with respect.

Stu

[atalanta]

I seem to remember reading that products over SPF factor 30 are as likely to cause cancer as prevent it on account of their chemical content (the cancers would be different ones of course). Don't know how much truth there is in this but I normally stick to SPF30, or 15 if I am already pretty tanned and in non-tropical conditions.

[Boreas]

I seem to remember reading that products over SPF factor 30 are as likely to cause cancer as prevent it on account of their chemical content (the cancers would be different ones of course). Don't know how much truth there is in this but I normally stick to SPF30, or 15 if I am already pretty tanned and in non-tropical conditions.

That is interesting. Does anyone know where to find more proper information on this? I use SPF 30 or sometimes 15. Today I was at a music festival and sitting in the sun for a couple of hours. I had SPF 30 and did not get burned. I have used 45 for the first couple of days on trips to the Caribbean.

[Bob S.]

SPF factor 30 is sufficient. Anything over that and you have to question the protection vs. the cost. In general, SPF 30 protects against 97% of the harmful rays while SPF 50 blocks 99%. Anything higher than that and you are just increasing protection by small fractions as nothing will block 100% of the rays. The US FDA is considering limiting the number of SPF to 50.

Regarding why nudists have less of a tendency toward skin cancer, it may have to do with a number of factors: the liberal use of sunscreen. When you know you have to protect your genitals, you are going to be more apt to rub it everywhere else.

As has been stated also, seeing spots when they are in the very early stages also helps. Also helping is Vitamin D, which does protect against skin cancer. Nudists get a lot of Vit D from the sun, which is the best kind of D to get. There are two kinds of Vitamin D, one from foods and the other from the sun. The kind in pill form tends to be the food kind mostly and while it is vital, it doesn't protect against cancer the way sunshine D can.

Bob S.

[Naturist Mark]

I seem to remember reading that products over SPF factor 30 are as likely to cause cancer as prevent it on account of their chemical content (the cancers would be different ones of course). Don't know how much truth there is in this but I normally stick to SPF30, or 15 if I am already pretty tanned and in non-tropical conditions.

It is nearly impossible to find sunscreen under SPF30 anymore. The only SPF15 I have been able to find is tanning oil.

I used to use SPF 15 at the beginning of the season, and then drop to 8 after developing a base. And I usually completely avoided burns.

Now I use SPF30 and stay pale.

[Sanman]

Do a google search for the dangers of these sunblock/sunscreen products.

I've never used them and the and never will. I'm 55 years old.

Just use common sense and expose your skin slowly to the sun.

Take a look at the amount of chemicals that are in these sunscreen block products.

I too have done the research on this, and I NEVER use sunscreen any more since a couple years ago. I now start very early in the spring and start getting an all-over tan very gradually, then by summer, I'm fully tanned up everywhere and can stay out in the sun all day and not burn. So long as you don't burn, then getting tan and generating maximum Vitamin D actually prevents cancer. The people suffering the most from skin cancer are those who spend most of their time indoor and never get sun exposure.

[Stu2630]

Sanman

I am sure you can do that fairly easily in Texas, but in the UK, that's not really possible. We have relatively few days every year in which it is possible to get any kind of tan, but when it is hot here, it can be very hot. That means we don't generally have the ability to work on a tan over several months like you can and, when the sun does shine, we have to make the most of it.

Stu

[tiger79]

In today's "Sunday Times" - one of the UK's most respected newspapers - there's an interesting report (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/health/article6690007.ece) on a discovery by scientists that the number of moles on the body is an indicator of the likelihood of a person developing skin cancer. Apparently the genes which cause moles also cause a predisposition towards melanoma.