The Impersonal Naturist

[codylechien]

It seems like a contradiction to be a naturist and member of a group like CFI and be impersonal.

Naturism, as I understand it, is primarily about openness, honesty, acceptance of people for who they are and who God created us to be. Look at the number of forums and posts dealing with self-concept. self-worth or self-image.

So, I’m a little confused when I read a post and want to know something about the poster, go to the profile and read “location: Universe” or get only gender, and no “fleshing out”, if you will of the character or nature of the person. The person claims to be a naturist, but doesn't "show" themselves in an open, honest, meaningful way.

Now I’m not suggesting personal information: “Hi, I’m Joe, my SSN is 333-01-0111; I was born 2/22/62 I'm 4'6" and weigh 399 lbs and, oh yes, I have an in-grown toe nail.” THAT much information is definitely TMI! And most forums, including CFI I believe, exclude (1) pix that are genital oriented and (2) pix that are headless for probably the same reasons – the focus of the forum is the total person, not one aspect and not excluding the visage of the person, the face.

Does anyone else share my confusion about people being on this site and being a non-person? Having NO profile?

[codylechien]

It seems like a contradiction to be a naturist and member of a group like CFI and be impersonal.

Naturism, as I understand it, is primarily about openness, honesty, acceptance of people for who they are and who God created us to be. Look at the number of forums and posts dealing with self-concept. self-worth or self-image.

So, I’m a little confused when I read a post and want to know something about the poster, go to the profile and read “location: Universe” or get only gender, and no “fleshing out”, if you will of the character or nature of the person. The person claims to be a naturist, but doesn't "show" themselves in an open, honest, meaningful way.

Now I’m not suggesting personal information: “Hi, I’m Joe, my SSN is 333-01-0111; I was born 2/22/62 I'm 4'6" and weigh 399 lbs and, oh yes, I have an in-grown toe nail.” THAT much information is definitely TMI! And most forums, including CFI I believe, exclude (1) pix that are genital oriented and (2) pix that are headless for probably the same reasons – the focus of the forum is the total person, not one aspect and not excluding the visage of the person, the face.

Does anyone else share my confusion about people being on this site and being a non-person? Having NO profile?

[tinner666]

Makes you wonder, doesn't it?? I know a lot of folks who consider it "their dirty little secret".????. http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/confused.gif There's nothing dirty about it, them, or their actions, but something has gotten ingrained into them. http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/confused.gif
Oh well, they're still my friends and will stay my friends. I just accept that we're all different.

[Peter B]

When I returned from living in China, I stayed with a nudist cuople, which I had found on the Internet; nude home stay.
They had been nudists for a very long time, yet they made it clear to me that this information was for very few only, despite the fact that they ran an internet site, which clearly identified them.
They pressed on me, when I came to live here, that I should never say anything of this nature to anybody unknown.

They were right as I found out myself that the general attitude towards nudism is either bafflement or assumption of something weird or kinky.

It is a preconcieved idea, but I have to accept the fact that nudism is a minority lifestyle choice

[BlobbyBob]

I don't like to share much personal information on any forums that I post on, regardless of if they are nudist/naturist ones or any other topic.
When I get to know people via forums and become friends I may evetually give them more information but otherwise I don't like to write detailed profiles because anyone who accesses the site can see them, and I don't want strangers to know much about me.

Isn't that something which we have impressed upon us from a young age; don't talk to strangers?

[luvnaturism]

There are lots of reasons why people choose to keep their private lives private. Some reasons are of such a subtantial nature that I think most would understand. Other reasons may sometimes reveal merely that the people involved haven't yet fully made peace with their own naturist selves—-and that's their business, not mine.

We recently spent a week living natural at a resort. There we met a delightful couple who enjoy their nude times immensely. We were surprised when they asked our advice on what to do when people back home wanted to know about their vacation. That prompted some conversation about what they tell their kids (grown), and they said, "We couldn't possibly tell our kids. We wouldn't dare."

It turns out that they live in a tiny town where everyone knows everyone else, and one of their sons has a mother-in-law who is a notorious gossip. They just aren't prepared to have their entire community sit in judgment on their recreation.

So we gave them some practical advice on how to handle the vacation report, and left it at that.

[Bob S.]

I am a private person and keep my worlds separate. There are a few reasons why I would tell someone something about myself: to get them interested, for vital reasons, or to get them to understand why I do certain things or why I act like I do.

I became a vegetarian in high hchool and had to tell my parents that so they knew why I didn't eat meats. Same with everyone else who offers me food.

I have kept my faith apart from my family and only share the info with those whom I feel need to know or whom I want to know.

So goes with nudism. I would only share it with those whom I would want to invite to a nudist venue or whom I would want to get interested in nudism.

But cody, getting back to your origunal statements, the "fleshing out" is not something that can be found in a profile or on the side of the screen. Thayt can best be identified in the statements they write. You don't find out about someone from statistics, but rather from opinions.

Bob S.

[codylechien]

Excellent points. It's a little like preaching to the choir in your case because your profile tells me your occupation is childcare, you write, are interested in children's literature and are from Virginia Beach. Were you to post an option about PCs vs Macs I might not give your opinion the same value as if you were to share opinions on childhood development, the effects of fantasy life on children, the relationship of say, the Wizard of Oz to the concept of personal worth and value in naturism because your profile has told me that that's who you are. It's like getting a note from someone who doesn't sign their name. If they don't value themselves enough to identify themselves, why should I give credence to their thoughts or opinions. And, quite frankly, if I do read an interesting post and hop back to check the profile, find it a bland vanilla, I'm less interested in what the person has to say because they've told me the don't want to tell me who they are....just their opinion on something and, as we all know, opinions are like bellybuttons........... everyone has one. <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Bob S.:
I am a private person and keep my worlds separate. There are a few reasons why I would tell someone something about myself: to get them interested, for vital reasons, or to get them to understand why I do certain things or why I act like I do.

I became a vegetarian in high hchool and had to tell my parents that so they knew why I didn't eat meats. Same with everyone else who offers me food.

I have kept my faith apart from my family and only share the info with those whom I feel need to know or whom I want to know.

So goes with nudism. I would only share it with those whom I would want to invite to a nudist venue or whom I would want to get interested in nudism.

But cody, getting back to your origunal statements, the "fleshing out" is not something that can be found in a profile or on the side of the screen. Thayt can best be identified in the statements they write. You don't find out about someone from statistics, but rather from opinions.

Bob S. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

[missouriboy]

(Why isn't this topic in the new FAQ forum? Over and over and over and over...)

The reason personal information is not given is because this BB is on the Internet, the nature of the Internet is what it is, and the nature of the Internet does not change just because we are naturists.

[Rabid_Clam]

Most behavior is from trained reflex action. That is when someone sees something in one light, they were trained to see those things that way.

People are creatures of habit that is broken only by inate collisions with that training. Nudism is one collision in training that usually is pretty much to the opposite.

Young girls are given dolls and home maker toys and young boys are given trucks, soldiers, and tools. Each sex is trained early into a roll for and of life. They adopt those and being creatures of habit most of it sticks.

Society is slowly changing where women are taking job roles most traditionally reserved for men and a few men are taking roles traditionally reserved for women albeit much less in numbers than that of the female role changes. That being most likely from the same training in early years.

Lets see what the future brings !

[dan t]

My wife does not want me telling every one, that I love being nude when ever possible, she gets upset if I leave a coppie of the Bulletin out where every one can see it.
Plus she does not want every one she works with know.

[nudeM]

I believe that giving too much informtion, could be become trouble in the long run. Allowing others to see your Social Security number, is not very smart, for reasons that have been mentioned; age, name, gender are okay, but definately not your e-mail address, unless it is given during a private chat, where access is minimal.

As far as letting others know about being a nude at home, that depends on the circumstances and who is being told. Myself, I really don't care. Either they accept it or not, what I do at my house is our family's business and no others. http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/smoking.gif

[CHICK]

Unfortunatly I work for a company that would take a dim view of any employee advertising the fact that he is a nudist. I can't change that fact no matter how many naturist platitudes I come up with. Most of corporate international is sensitive to this sort of thing and it is simply a waste of time to try to convince them or educate them otherwise through any indiviual effort.That is why organisations like this are so vital, they advance the cause for the the people who choose to have a naked lifestyle.Do I think I would be fired if they knew?I doubt it but they don't need to know my business.My friends and family know and just fine with me....VIVA LA NEKID!!!!

[justnude]

In all honesty- I am not sure how to update my profile or where to look to check out a member's profile....

[NakedGary]

justnude

Simply click on your own or others Forum "Nick or User Name" or at the top center of each forum page you will see a link called "My Profile/Messages.

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[justnude]

Thanks NakedGary! Your directions were excellent-mission complete!

[Bob S.]

cody:"if I do read an interesting post and hop back to check the profile, find it a bland vanilla, I'm less interested in what the person has to say because they've told me the don't want to tell me who they are"

So you have read an message and found it intersting without knowing what the interests of the author were. So what changes if you look at their profile and still don't know them? Nothing has changed. You have gained no insight into their lives, interests or non-intersts. You cannot gather from the profiles what they know or do not know about a specific topic.

Yes, in my profile, I give a short description about what I like. But realize that I am a lot more than that. I have plenty more interests, but chose not to overload my profile with all of my likes and dislikes.

So acknowledging that, why would you give my opinions on computers, music, sports, or any other topic any less credence than my opinions on what I have listed in my interests?

A blank profile means just a little less than a full profile. It is only good for curiosity. I hardly ever look at them.

Bob S.