What happens when men get erections?

[Raised_by_She-Wolf]

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No, it's not a strange question. In fact, it's been asked here quite often. I don't really have a black or white stance on the subject, so I'll present you with the two basic arguements for/against erections...

For- Hey, erections are totally natural. If nudism is all about nature, why do people get all freaked out about erections? Denying a man his uncontrollable woodies is in a sense making him ashamed of his body functions, and that totally contradicts the anti-shame philosophy of nudism, doesn't it, boys and girls? If nature wants to rise to the occasion, by all means, let it.

Against-Naturism isn't about sex. It's about not being ashamed of one's body and enjoying life the natural way. Erections carry a sexual connotation to them, and thus screw up the idea of naturism. We don't want to affiliate nudism with sex--otherwise, it'll be just like porn. So, if you get a woody, cover it with a towel, bury it in the sand, or go jump in the sea. Do whatever it takes to protect the integrity of naturism!!

There you have it. Your two arguements. Now just sit back and listen to everyone else take a side. /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

[florida-david]

to some people, every part of the body (wether erect or not) is considered a sexual part of the body. i consider all parts of the body another part of the body. why are boobs, penis's, etc. considered more sexual over, let's say, a tongue? because society says so? well if we are willing to go against society and be nudists and get naked without it being sexual, than an erect penis (or nipple!!) is just another body function. i have argued this here before, that erections are not always sexual, it could be the breeze or strenuous activity, so we should not get all wacky over a woody. as long as you are not flaunting it, or waving a flag on it, it should not be an issue.

[Raised_by_She-Wolf]

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Ok, so we know that Davey is for it. Now, we need someone against it. Who'll step up to the plate for that one? /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Falcon46]

Paul,
It's apparent this is happening to you because of the new "sensations" of being nude, or more to the point, "unrestricted". And if I'm right, your mind and body will adjust over time. I recall when I stopped wearing briefs (underwear) and even that level of freeness brought about the occasional erection for me. It was soon after that, that I started sunning in the nude in the privacy of my back yard, which started the cycle all over again. In both cases it was a temporary adustment. I dreaded the thought of my first time in a nudist environment that the cycle would start all over again, but it didn't. And I have to conclude that it was because my body had already gotten used to the freedom. I would suggest spending a lot more time at home in the nude if possible. This should help speed up the process of acclimation. But in the mean time while nude in public, I think it's best to be discreet as mentioned above. It's generally ok to get one, just don't flaunt it in front of everyone. And by all means, don't get hung up about it... relax and enjoy yourself ...think about baseball if it helps! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif (j/k) lol

Cheers!

[Bob S.]

Who else here just loves the wolf's daughter? Can I just call you Wolverina? You're crazy, insane, and I love you.

Paul, this is the most common question by newbie males. If you want to see a variety of answers, just scroll down the main Fun of Nude Rec. page. You will be able to find out more answers.

But synopsis, besides Wolverina's, is that erections are normal. What is not normal are men who cannot have erections. That's time to see the doctor. Nudist ettiquette, IMHO, is that one should make an attempt to conceal or somehow discreetly deal with his erection if he has one. There will be some who are totally against erections just as there are those who are totally against nudity. In reality, it is how you act with an erection that will be more noticable than whether you have an erection.

So I would suggest that you not worry too much. Sometimes that will cause what I call self-fulfilling or situational erections where you worry so much about having an erection that you will have one, especially if youm have had one previously in that situation. It's kind of like performance anxiety where men will fail to be able to get an erection before sex because they are afraid that they won't get one. Same concept, opposite outcome.

So I would say don't fret over it. If you get one, don't flaunt it and just act like it is normal. If you feel more comfortable, cover it, flip on your stomach, or whatever.

Bob S.

[Raised_by_She-Wolf]

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Oh, Bobby, that's the nicest thing someone's said to me in the past 3.56 minutes!! Thank you.

Oh, and by the way, the theory of marijuana being the gateway drug is totally bogus. Not all hard drug users have used marijuana as an enteryway into the world of needles and powder.

Instead, the latest scientific discoveries indicate that the real gateway drug is...milk.

That's right, Bobby. 100% of hard drug users testify that they tried milk before they tried pot, coke, acid, speed, etc.

Milk. It's more harmful than you thought. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[missouriboy]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Raised_by_She-Wolf:
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Milk. It's more harmful than you thought. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Hey, your greens clash! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

And I love you too, gal. Gosh, I wish you were my daughter!

[flash]

i just had my first nude in public thing the other day and i tell you what ,i was worried about the woody thing as well . honestly i couldnt have gotten one if i tried! hahaha hell it almost disappeared! i thought mabey i lost it or something..all jokes aside though i dont think it is as big a problem as everyone thinks it is.and im hooked now me and the wife are going to another resort this weekend..im glad i stumbled across this site opened my eyes to alot of stuff i didnt know i was missing...later flash

[Paul1964]

Thanks for the many answers.

But I don't really know what I should do. If I get naked (and I "tried" many times) probably because of the totally different feeling, after a few seconds I have an uncontrolled erection. And it has nothing to do with sexual related things or because of watching other naked people. It is just the result of being naked outside. As result, I stay all the time on my stomach.

Probably I won't go to places with other people until I will be able to control myself. Hopefully I'll be able to do it one day .....


Thanks
Paul

[Raised_by_She-Wolf]

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Have you ever considered the option of a sex change? To go Boy George would solve all your woody perils!! /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Then again, if you are a member of the endagnered species biologist dubb homo Princecharmingus, aka good, single men, then stay XY--just the way you are. Remember, we want to prevent extinction here. /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

[florida-david]

paul 1964 - wow, you have a very active penis!? i think you should get naked outside around the house, maybe at night walking around the backyard until your little feller gets used to hanging out outside. after a while, you will be used to it and your penis should exhibit some self-control.

[Bob S.]

Paul, how do you try to get naked? Either you get naked or not. As Yoda may say, "Try not. Nude or nude not. There is no try."

David has the right idea, as do you. Just keep on going outside more. If you need to have some solo time, then so be it. Have patience.

Wolverina, you do realize that I am a milk drinker. And I have tried to pot some plants, enjoy coke (actually Sprite is my fave, but it is a coke product), there is lactic acid in my milk, and I speed while in my car (usually 5mph over). So maybe your theory has some merit. Looks like I'll have to check into the Betty White Clinic.

Bob S.

[Naturist Mark]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bob S.:
Looks like I'll have to check into the Betty White Clinic. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Hmmmmmmm...
The Betty Ford Clinic is for alcoholics

so the Betty White Clinic is for
... galactoholics?

-Mark

[pahjo2]

i had the same problem. when i decided that i would sleep nude. i don't what difference that made but i would always get an erection. that was 15 years ago and i have been confortable with nudism i am not bothered at all. sometimes when you hear something it just sticks in your mind and you don't know when or where you heard it. anyway i have found one way to cause an erection to go down is to take the thumb and for finger and flip the head of the penis a couple of times, just like my mama used to do mr]e on the back on the head when i didn't do as i was told. best to do this descertly as possiable. yes it will sting for a little while but no harm will come from this. i have had to resort to this of several ocasions but not at all now. maybe this would be a way to sleep when your wife says to go away. ( smile ) we all need to do that more.
be nude as much as possiable. pahjo2

[Rooster]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Is the erection a problem? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Only if it ain't happening!

[Niki23]

It happens to me sometimes

[GeorgiaNudist]

I remember an article in a scientific journal that mentioned that there is a specific nerve pathway that will stop this reaction in men as well as cause it.

From what I have seen at our resort, it seems to work, as there are not any instances, other than the hot tub, that our family has noticed it.

[Raised_by_She-Wolf]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bob S.:

Wolverina, you do realize that I am a milk drinker. And I have tried to pot some plants, enjoy coke (actually Sprite is my fave, but it is a coke product), there is lactic acid in my milk, and I speed while in my car (usually 5mph over). So maybe your theory has some merit. Looks like I'll have to check into the Betty White Clinic.

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Really now? Do you suppose that shooting speed means to chuck a bullet at a passing car going five miles over? Or tripping on acid means slipping on a puddle of spilled milk?

You gotta wonder...

[Bob S.]

Actually Mark, the Betty White Clinic specializes in geriaholics. The Betty Boop Clinic is for animaholics.

Wolverina, do you realize that everyone has crack as well? And the ladies all love it when one of them is recognized as heroine. And wait, doesn't Kelloggs' make a cereal called Special K?

Aaaaahh!

Bob S. (who gets many drugs from his doctor).

[Raised_by_She-Wolf]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bob S.:
Actually Mark, the Betty White Clinic specializes in geriaholics. The Betty Boop Clinic is for animaholics.

Wolverina, do you realize that everyone has crack as well? And the ladies all love it when one of them is recognized as heroine. And wait, doesn't Kelloggs' make a cereal called Special K?

Aaaaahh!

Bob S. (who gets many drugs from his doctor). <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><font color="teal">
Wow, Bob! I'm surprised you are detoxed enough to hold your head up! How you can legibly type is a miracle.

I had some hash this morning for breakfast. However, I like it better when the potatoes for it are freshly shredded and not frozen and prepackaged. I used to do yellow jackets...until my mom found that she was allergic to their stings, so she made me switch to beekeeping. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

PS...I used to do meth too--until I realized that I sucked at trigonometry, so I dropped the class.

[Gary Naturist]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Paul1964:
Thanks for the many answers.

But I don't really know what I should do. If I get naked (and I "tried" many times) probably because of the totally different feeling, after a few seconds I have an uncontrolled erection. And it has nothing to do with sexual related things or because of watching other naked people. It is just the result of being naked outside. As result, I stay all the time on my stomach.

Probably I won't go to places with other people until I will be able to control myself. Hopefully I'll be able to do it one day .....


Thanks
Paul <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I had a similar problem for many years. When I was naked, just the thought that someone (of either sex) might see my penis gave me an erection. This was not sexual, but more like an embarrassment erection.

I have always been a nudist at heart, but didn't get nude with other people much because of my bashful penis problem. Also, I didn't go nude around the house a lot.

When I did go nude in the presence of others (e.g. at a cottae), and felt an erection coming on, I would try to head it off by biting the inside of my cheek, or by picturing my dog dead (difficult, because I didn't have a dog). Sometimes I would masturbate in advance, which would buy me some time.

This "problem" disappeared gradually over time -- i.e. with advancing age. Looking back, I really wish that I had found a solution much earlier.

If I had had enough nerve to simply let the erections happen, I might have gotten comfortable being nude years earlier. I think that my friends would have been understanding, but in those days I wasn't comfortable enough with my body to consider this approach.

Paul, do you get hard only when there are other people around, or also when you are alone?

If this happens when you are nude and alone, I'd suggest spending considerably more time nude alone. I'm quite sure that this will be helpful.

The next step that I would suggest is to practise being nude with an understanding friend. I would think that this would help.

You might find that you have more of a problem being nude with a group of friends, or being nude with strangers (e.g. at a clothing-optional beach). Practise being nude in the situation that causes the lesser problem.

Nudists are quite tolerant of men having spontaneous erections. However, they tend to be protective of the locations where they can be nude (e.g. clothing-optional beaches) so most don't like it when men have continuing erections.

In a more perfect world, people will accept others being nude, regarding of their phyiscal state.

My advice is to keep working at getting comfortable being nude. Don't give up, because you'll likely regret it later on.

Gary

[florida-david]

well gary, since you brought up the idea of masturbation, i think masturbation is an excellent option to relieve the erection pressure. i did not want to mention it due to the harsh feedback it will probably get, but it is an option worth considering. once the sexual tension is relieved, than you can concentrate on enjoying yourself naked.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Gary Naturist:

This "problem" disappeared gradually over time -- i.e. with advancing age. Looking back, I really wish that I had found a solution much earlier.

If I had had enough nerve to simply let the erections happen, I might have gotten comfortable being nude years earlier. I think that my friends would have been understanding, but in those days I wasn't comfortable enough with my body to consider this approach.


Nudists are quite tolerant of men having spontaneous erections. However, they tend to be protective of the locations where they can be nude (e.g. clothing-optional beaches) so most don't like it when men have continuing erections.

In a more perfect world, people will accept others being nude, regarding of their phyiscal state.

Gary <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Two points here... I disagree that nudists are tolerant of spontaneous erections. The massage thread had a few people stating that all erections are sexually motivated. I think we agree that they are not. It doesn't mean that when at a resort erections will be ignored. Some backwards clubs will ban you or suspend you for it. I had a friend suspended from Paradise (of all places) for 30 days because they said he had an erection on the dancefloor. Paradise looks for reasons to harrass singles I think.

Second point is everyone wants to know why young people aren't at the resorts and their own policies on erections is a very likely cause.

[NakedGary]

Who's the judge on Erections ? People without a penis? A semi tumescent or flacid penis is not considered a erection, and would be considered quite normal for a male just standing from a sitting position, or during dancing or for that matter just walking, or just turning while sunning, or changing position or coming in contact with somthing, the wind, or change in temperature, and is quite a normal occurance and function. Now, if the person in question is exibiting a full errection [3 o'clock to noon position, or against the chest which doesnt go down or no obvious effort to hide with a towel or hand, or one who flaunts this, would be considered a objectional erection. Just being tumescent in a hanging or flacid condition should not be objectional or a reason to ban from a facility or dance unless it is a repeated true errection thats obvious.

[Trailscout]

There should be a simple empirical test:
Can you hang a towel or at least a washcloth from it? If not, you are cool. If yes, excuse yourself for a few minutes so you don't jab anybody with it. No need for excommunication, if everyone is considerate, this would be a non-issue.

[NW Nude]

On our very first visit to a c/o resort, I was worried. After a few minutes, the anxiety was gone and I relaxed. The only risk was watching my wife layout nude and comfortable or taking an outdoor shower next to the hottub. I think a spontaneous half mast is just as natural as the first of the morning, but a full blow being flaunted in public is over the line. If we are all adults and know basic politeness, sit down or cover up if you have one, and with time you'll get control over it.

[hw]

but a full blow being flaunted in public is over the line.
I couldn't agree more. /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

[RIVERRAT]

I couldn't agree more with GW and HW, If it happens cover up or get in the water, some how hide it. It is inapropriate. I have been single and for most part living alone for for 27 years, I Have had an erection on a clothing optional beach, I covered up and left the beach. This is not the time or place, if you can't handle it, you don't belong there. There is plenty of time if you have a signficant other to take care of that, if not your date, with ROSIE PALM. the public and beach area is not the spot, so if you think it's cool to brandish a woody, Larry flint would love you in his magazine, but not on a nude beach. Be nude and natural, not lude and unnatural. Later

[Suntied]

Well said RR, but you forgot about Rosie's five sisters. I think a full BLOWn in public is totally undesceatingflaauntenataaoinaaanduncalledforwhenin annnnnnnudesetting. /infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

Translation: You got wood... hide in the woods!

This is just my opinion and I only have wood when I can use it... to build something. /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif Suntied /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

[CowboyJack]

Alrite I really don't know whats up on this one, for some reason I get errections all the time, and really easily, not even when I'm about to have sex either, I get them all the time, just like when dancing with a girl or whatever ,it's awkward and embarrassing, i get them easily, not even when at a nude beach or whatever, anyone know why or how I could prevent this, what's up with this? And should I be embarrassed if I get a hard on when with a girl and doing next to ntohing, just like making out or whatever?

[CowboyJack]

Alrite I really don't know whats up on this one, for some reason I get errections all the time, and really easily, not even when I'm about to have sex either, I get them all the time, just like when dancing with a girl or whatever ,it's awkward and embarrassing, i get them easily, not even when at a nude beach or whatever, anyone know why or how I could prevent this, what's up with this? And should I be embarrassed if I get a hard on when with a girl and doing next to ntohing, just like making out or whatever?

[missouriboy]

Start here. (http://www.clothesfree.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=000369#000000)

Then there are many more where that one leaves off. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Bob S.]

Are you a teenager or a young adult? If so, it is natural. When you are being romantic with a girl, your body may be sending out some extra signals to the brain. And this is especially true when physical contact is occurring such as kissing or dancing.

There is not much you can do when erections come up. They are natural for healthy males. The best you can do is ignore them. And I am going to assume that you are only talking about erections when you are clothed. That is easier to take care of because the erection is not visible. This is just something you'll have to get used to.

Bob S.

[pahjo2]

i have had good results with this method to solve a problem with erections. beleve it or not this was told to me by my doctor. useing the thumb and finger flip the head of the penis much like my mother did to my head when i didn't do as told. yes it will sting a little but no damage will be done. trust me a little. it will work

[NudeAl]

I bet if you slam it in the door it will go away to! /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

When I was young and got unwanted erections, I found that squeezing hard at the base of the penis made it got down.

[shãybare]

NudeAl, 'OUCH, OUCH!!!'

[NudeAl]

I didn't say it was painless and the tough part is getting it to come back!

[aunaturelone]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I found that squeezing hard at the base of the penis made it got down. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>LOL! For me that just made sure it stayed hard! The only thing that worked for me was to bite my cheek or toungue and let the pain distract me.

[Snoboy]

I just have to ask...so fella's whats the BIG deal about an erection? Be thankful (mine sure does and boy do I like it) that it works...let the little guy stretch...out. He just needs to get some daily exercise. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[johny]

I am sure the problem may be easily cured by means of aboundance of sex. After seven times a nigh it will not become woody even morning awakening time, so I suggess to find a right partner, get naked and find Your best amount (under closed doors, not in the beach /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif ).

Johny,

Are you suggesting this for a 13-year-old too?

[Jochanaan]

Johny, I seem to recall that when I had a partner, the number of orgasms I'd had the night before didn't seem to affect the status of my thing in the morning. And there are many more factors involved in finding the right life partner than concerns about erections.

[hw]

Wow johny! Seven times a night? /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
This sounds like a job for Superman. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[shãybare]

When you're young there isn't alot you can do about not having erections. The penis has a mind of it's own during those years and trying to distract it is near impossible at times. I do not advocate having lots of sex with different partners or or sex without a condom unless your married. Just remember the safest way is having sex with Rosy Palm and being ambidextrous. /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

[Snoboy]

With STD's running amuck, Shaybare's advice is the best advice any of us could give you. Be safe. I frequently lecture on AIDS Awareness and my advice is to abstain, but if you do decide to have an active sex life, ALWAYS wear a condom...as Shaybare said, the safest sex is masturbation. It only takes one mistake to cause you endless heartache. So be careful. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[NudeAl]

Also friction sucks so make sure to invest in some lube, watch out for carpel tunnel syndrome and repetitve stress disorder. Though hairy palms and going blind are just an old wives tales. Hey everyone needs a hobby right?

[fred950]

Shadeybear is right. Now may I add... There is no way right or your left can come back nine months later and say YOUR'S!!!

[David77]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by fred950:
... can come back nine months later and say YOUR'S!!! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Yes, be constantly remindful that unwanted pregnancies of teenagers causes many serious problems for the 1) teen -ager, 2) the baby, and 3) for the parents of the pregnant teen.
By law, the father of the out-of-wedlock child would have to help financially support his child for about 18 years.

Sexually transmitted diseases are rampant. Good and wise advice is given in the above posts about masturbation being the most safe sex - so, <u>thereby</u> have a great "total body response", fantastic, <u>safe</u> orgasm!

[johny]

RE:Jon-Marc
Are you suggesting this for a 13-year-old too?

Wow! Sorry, I didnt realize the age.

RE: Jochanaan
number of orgasms I'd had the night before didn't seem to affect the status of my thing in the morning.

This is unbelievable... but the very youth is really springful... sometimes.

RE: Jochanaan
And there are many more factors involved in finding the right life partner than concerns about erections

Undoubtly /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

RE: Wow johny! Seven times a night?
This sounds like a job for Superman

Sighing... It was so far far ago... But hope is dying the last one.

RE:Snoboy
I frequently lecture on AIDS Awareness and my advice is to abstain, So be careful.

Month ago here was a TV chronical about life in Russia anclave Kaliningrad, the seaport city. There they (TV) find out that 75% of prostituated are ill with.... AIDS! And still "work" on the streets!!!

NudeAl
watch out for carpel tunnel syndrome and repetitve stress disorder.

/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif At least safe.

fred950
your left can come back nine months later and say YOUR'S!!!
/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif But sad true.

David77
thereby have a great "total body response", fantastic, and safe orgasm

When I had a 11-12-13 it was the only way and I have nothing about to be sorry. Anyhow, if I would be capable to live the life one more time, I should throw away many unneccessary inhibitions (including those shyness about being nude). As a boy I felt a conscious about everything. I didnt knew even that only heavely ill boys arent do "total body response".

Okay, but if to more serious, and You are quite young, You know - when I had a 12, I started to work. Before the school I need to go by public bus to city center (personal cars then was far not invented, those came in as late as 1980-1985 here) and in telegraphe perfo-rolls archive deep in undercellar I had to burn on some 7 wood heaters and make a firewood enough for day-long, when fire was feeded by archivaresses.

They payed 40 soviet roubles monthly and it seem a big money for me then. While it was only way to not fall in hunger and I gave it all to mum, for mother was left alone and being a scientist (art theroretic/historian) she has a tiny salary but long hours to work.

When I came out of bus, halfsleeping at 5 o`clock morning, it was on the big bridge of Daugava river (biggest river in region, 1,2 km wide) to change the transport, I had ALLWAYS half of hour long erection what calmd down only at trollybus crowd but sometimes persist even at archive. And it SO embarrassed me.

Oh fool, what I should not give for if I should have the similar NOW when all best is behind. Now it works only in sleep and when wife invite him. Often I remember those sweet sensation on the bridge and how I tried to hide it turning back to people. Fool. Real fool. Believe, its only reasonless inhibition. And nothing more. Its completely natural.

[stevenf64]

RELAX if your a teenager or in that age group its NORMAL. IF possible think about something else if not just let it be....
Although I dont have any facts /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Maybe Cyndiann could give us her professional opinion and references? /infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif Maybe if we ask nice and say please. /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

disclaimer> this is just my 2 cents worth /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[David77]

Johny,
Over the last months you have given me an idea as to your life in Latvia, both in the past and the present. You even including the history of Latvia. Your posts are very much human interest stories which we can relate to, even though our experiences in this country may have been slightly different. You enrich our experience at this forum and thank you for your posts.

[Jochanaan]

Yes, Johny, I'm always very interested in your accounts of Latvian life and your viewpoint. You have a unique perspective, seemingly free from the hangups so many Americans suffer.

[lovinglife]

The apparent philosophy and reactions here in the states about getting an erection at nudist events has always been an issue with me. Putting aggressiveness, showing off and physical contact aside, which should never be allowed, why are so many folks up in arms about it?

I have enjoyed occasional nude events about once or twice a year for the last 35 years here in the states and in several other countries. And it seems that some bloke who gets stimulated by an attractive woman, conversation or even the breeze is thought of as a sexual predator.

I?ve seen posts in some forums where a young lady clamed to be ?frightened? by seeing some guy innocently getting an erection. Is there something wrong with that perception? Have we been conditioned to think of a rigid penis as weapon?

I have been in quite a few nude events in other countries where with the proper etiquette as stated above, an erection while walking, laying down or in conversation with a woman is either comfortably disregarded or is viewed as a compliment. Certainly a natural event and not an attack.

It is absolutely necessary and proper out of respect to set sexual tones aside. But how or why should a man or woman disregard the sensual side of nudity? It?s a holistic part of nudity. If a woman gets aroused by the proximity of a attractive male, the wind or thoughts of her boyfriend or husband, the lack of a visual response (other than possibly erect nipples) makes it a non issue. But if us guys respond to stimulation, we are viewed as child molesters.

I have been with my wife while speaking with my sister in law (on the beach) and had a stimulus response. Neither my wife or her sister was offended (her sister asked jokingly if I was happy to see her). In fact it was I who felt a little transparent. The point is that if it happens, it?s a natural response. Why does our culture react so negatively to it?

Most ?clothing optional? folks here in the states seem to have a ?double standard view? of men VS women. If a woman demonstrates sensuality (not sexuality) or a response to it, its ?beautiful? and accepted. If we guys respond to sensuality, or act sensually, it seems to be viewed as something between a terrorist attack and a mugging.

I hope we can someday get to the point of reality and honesty where we can appreciate each others physical self for what we are and stop putting stigma?s on the same. Until then, nudists are not as free and open as we thing we are.

Ladies, most of us guys are not out to ?get you?. If we respond in such a manner, please, like our European neighbors, understand that it is normal and in fact a compliment and we in no way want to embarrass or force anything on you. Remember, in the proper context, if we guys didn?t respond to you as such, humanity would come to a screeching end.

Thanks for letting me ?rant? and please feel free to agree or flame me.

[lovinglife]

The apparent philosophy and reactions here in the states about getting an erection at nudist events has always been an issue with me. Putting aggressiveness, showing off and physical contact aside, which should never be allowed, why are so many folks up in arms about it?

I have enjoyed occasional nude events about once or twice a year for the last 35 years here in the states and in several other countries. And it seems that some bloke who gets stimulated by an attractive woman, conversation or even the breeze is thought of as a sexual predator.

I?ve seen posts in some forums where a young lady clamed to be ?frightened? by seeing some guy innocently getting an erection. Is there something wrong with that perception? Have we been conditioned to think of a rigid penis as weapon?

I have been in quite a few nude events in other countries where with the proper etiquette as stated above, an erection while walking, laying down or in conversation with a woman is either comfortably disregarded or is viewed as a compliment. Certainly a natural event and not an attack.

It is absolutely necessary and proper out of respect to set sexual tones aside. But how or why should a man or woman disregard the sensual side of nudity? It?s a holistic part of nudity. If a woman gets aroused by the proximity of a attractive male, the wind or thoughts of her boyfriend or husband, the lack of a visual response (other than possibly erect nipples) makes it a non issue. But if us guys respond to stimulation, we are viewed as child molesters.

I have been with my wife while speaking with my sister in law (on the beach) and had a stimulus response. Neither my wife or her sister was offended (her sister asked jokingly if I was happy to see her). In fact it was I who felt a little transparent. The point is that if it happens, it?s a natural response. Why does our culture react so negatively to it?

Most ?clothing optional? folks here in the states seem to have a ?double standard view? of men VS women. If a woman demonstrates sensuality (not sexuality) or a response to it, its ?beautiful? and accepted. If we guys respond to sensuality, or act sensually, it seems to be viewed as something between a terrorist attack and a mugging.

I hope we can someday get to the point of reality and honesty where we can appreciate each others physical self for what we are and stop putting stigma?s on the same. Until then, nudists are not as free and open as we thing we are.

Ladies, most of us guys are not out to ?get you?. If we respond in such a manner, please, like our European neighbors, understand that it is normal and in fact a compliment and we in no way want to embarrass or force anything on you. Remember, in the proper context, if we guys didn?t respond to you as such, humanity would come to a screeching end.

Thanks for letting me ?rant? and please feel free to agree or flame me.

[Trailscout]

Lovinglife,

You shared one story in which your wife was with you and you were both standing near her sister when you had an erection. That may have been slightly embarassing, but there was no perceived threat because you were with your wife and you were well known to the woman who saw your erection.

Can you appreciate that if you approached a woman who was alone and whom you did not know, and you quickly developed a full erection as you were chatting glibly along, that she might be uncomfortable with the situation? Nor would she take comfort from your saying that your erection was necessary for the propagation of the human race. Are you really so sure that some woman whom you don't know would be flattered if you sprouted a big erection while you were chatting her up?

If a man came back from the nude beach snack bar with a snow cone for his preteen daughter and saw some stranger standing right next to his precious little girl, trying to make small talk with her and this guy was as stiff as a board, you're telling me he shouldn't think a thing of it?

I can think of a lot of similar situations where you would make people angry and suspicious about the behavior you are asking us to approve.

Fact is, seasoned nudists rarely get erections and when they do, they tend to be discreet about it and allow themselves to calm down.

Most of us don't walk up to women and expect them to enjoy our erections.

[Ben_m]

I'm going out on this limb a bit with you, I guess, Lovinglife. I tend to agree with you. I gather that as "naturists" go, I'm about as conservative with it is they come, but I'm in about the same place you are with the erection issue, from what you describe.

I don't believe erections should be flaunted, they should absolutely be the exception not the rule. But, the truth is that some of us get erections much easier than others, and sometimes for little reason at all. The erection phobia should end.

I don't think it should be that difficult to tell when an erection is confrontational, and when it isn't. Just as you described, you felt a little embarrassed - so would I - the possibility, that I know full-well exists, sometimes scares me half to death (which actually doesn't help the situation). It would be so nice to know that I would not be thought of as a pervert if it got the better of me at some point (which so far it hasn't in a naturist setting). I would definitely be embarrassed and not inclined to be 'showing off' - not in the least. I'd probably be bright red from head to toe and desperately trying to find the nearest hole to climb into. (and no, I'm not convinced this is the "right way" to feel about it either)

"Erection phobia", that I agree with you does exist - and exist to a rather extreme degree, is ridiculous and unjustified in my opinion.

[Trailscout]

Ben, it's inappropriate in a public setting. When you feel one coming on, you excuse yourself, take a dip or find a towel or just walk off for a minute or two.

If you have one and try to pretend that you don't, you ain't foolin' nobody.

[shãybare]

Great Rant. Full of common sense and truth. If only everyone could see it that way. Especially the women.

[lovinglife]

Trailscout
Thanks for your comments. This is a difficult subject that finds its ?line of acceptance? moving as the situation changes.
<< If a man came back from the nude beach snack bar with a snow cone for his preteen daughter and saw some stranger standing right next to his precious little girl, trying to make small talk with her and this guy was as stiff as a board, you're telling me he shouldn't think a thing of it?>>

Here you site an extreme situation; correctly as most all of would agree. Here the line is in the most ?non accepted? position. If that guy was me, because of the circumstances, I would immediately cover up or remove myself. That?s common respect. In actuality, I would not allow myself to get in that position.

<< Most of us don't walk up to women and expect them to enjoy our erections.>>
Absolutely agree, especially in our culture! But there are circumstances where this may happen, and my comment that its not a personal attack still stands. Here again the ?line? is somewhat in the ?non accepted? position but depending on the persons maturity / comfort zone it is either a non issue or an accepted one. Again, this is something that we should not expect or try to make happen.

I hope I don?t come across as an extremist or someone who?s insensitive as I?m definitely not. The culture, situation and common sense are the modifying factor and we have to be sensitive and reactive to all. That being said, my wish is that our culture would lighten up a little and embrace that which we are. Too may phobia?s

Conversations like this about sensitive issues are healthily and set the stage for understanding and change. Thanks to all.

[Naturist Mark]

I've made a lot of posts saying that innocent and transient erections are no big deal and should be ignored.

I've also read a lot of posts from guys who want to get agreement that there is nothing wrong with having an erection (true), and they should just be allowed to enjoy them (arguable). I've also read posts by guys who want to know just how erect they can be without being over the line, because they like to be a bit 'pumped up' and extra 'thick' on the beach. It is difficult not to read a very non-nudist agenda to some of those posts.

My position? Erections are harmless and no big deal, just don't draw attention to them. Cover up with your towel when you can. Keep playing volleyball if all the activity and jumping around results in an innocent erection, that is better than disrupting the game. No one has a right to be offended by an erection if you make an effort to be courteously discrete. But there is no reason to be sunbathing or socializing with an uncovered woody, be courteous.

-Mark

[Ben_m]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Ben, it's inappropriate in a public setting. When you feel one coming on, you excuse yourself, take a dip or find a towel or just walk off for a minute or two.

If you have one and try to pretend that you don't, you ain't foolin' nobody. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Trailscout, did you read what I said? I try not to be easily offended, but this reply to what I said is also inappropriate as far as I'm concerned. At no point did I suggest I would do any different than you said. But the "phobia" that is the topic of this tread is real and unjustifiable as far as I'm concerned. Haven't you ever had an erection?

I have enjoyed many of your comments to this forum, and very often agreed with you - this is not one of those times.

[Trailscout]

Ben, it seems that we may disagree about what our next step should be once we get an erection.

Do you honestly believe that it's okay to just stand there in close proximity to others with a big one? I hope not.

Naturist Mark drew a very helpful distinction between getting one in a volleyball game and getting one in a social situation or sunbathing.

I believe he outlined the best way to handle the situation. I have had one in a game of volleyball and it was not a problem to continue playing. I had one when dancing nude with a young woman and I immediately took time out to "cool off".

[Bob S.]

I wish we could come to the point where spontaneous erections are just seen as harmless. But we are still being controlled by the textile society and their views. Society sees nudity as sexual. Nudist society sees the erection as sexual. So in both cases, they must be covered up.

My thoughts on this are that it is etiquette that when one gets an erection, if possible, they should discreetly cover it up. But no one should feel threatened by an erection unless there is accompanying inappropriate behaviour.

"If a man came back from the nude beach snack bar with a snow cone for his preteen daughter and saw some stranger standing right next to his precious little girl, trying to make small talk with her and this guy was as stiff as a board, you're telling me he shouldn't think a thing of it?"

Trailscout, if you were on a regular beach, leaving your 10-year-old daughter for a few moments, only to come back to see a man trying to make small talk with her, would the presence of swim trunks temper your reaction? My guess is no. In that case, the behaviour is more important than anything else.

Bob S.

[Ben_m]

Trailscout - yes, it seems we may well disagree. But, given that we seem to be unable to read the same words here, I don't think we're going to be able to figure out what we may disagree about.

Thats o.k. - let's move on. I stand by my opinion on this matter.

[Trailscout]

Fair enough Bob, the behavior is more important. However, the erection is part of the behavior we evaluate, or more accurately the failure to retreat when an erection occurs is a decision that is part of overall behavior. Depending on context that could be meaningless or very rude and aggressive.

[Trailscout]

Ben, I don't think you would be anything less than a gentleman at the beach. I am discussing the issue, not your personal character.

[NudeAl]

Erection phobia,

Well here goes. If I feel one comming on, and I have on occasion, I try to excuse myself or cover it somehow. I have also seen plenty of men on the beach who, I guess, didn't think that this was nessesary. They were obviously flaunting it, in my opinion. I don't think I have ever seen anyone attack anyone who was sporting one on the beach, unless he was playing with it, then they let him have it with both barrels.

Now when I go to the beach I get bored just sitting there. I go and walk up the beach or go play in the water whatever. If I happen to be more than a few steps from my towel and "it" happens I just go out into the water until it goes away. The absolute last thing I want to be doing is walking down the beach sporting wood. No one is going to bother to take the time to stop and evaluate what the intent behind this woody is. They will just assume the worst and be like, "Look at the pervert with the boner."

I think we would be asking to much of society to disregard their natural tendacies to make a judgement upon seeing this. Some of us are naturally confrontational, some submissive, some of us very tolerant. Everyone will have their own individule reaction to this situation. Such is life, big deal, or maybe not, live and let live. But just be prepared to deal with the situation as it developes.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by NudeAl:
Erection phobia,

Well here goes. If I feel one comming on, and I have on occasion, I try to excuse myself or cover it somehow. I have also seen plenty of men on the beach who, I guess, didn't think that this was nessesary. They were obviously flaunting it, in my opinion. I don't think I have ever seen anyone attack anyone who was sporting one on the beach, unless he was playing with it, then they let him have it with both barrels.

Now when I go to the beach I get bored just sitting there. I go and walk up the beach or go play in the water whatever. If I happen to be more than a few steps from my towel and "it" happens I just go out into the water until it goes away. The absolute last thing I want to be doing is walking down the beach sporting wood. No one is going to bother to take the time to stop and evaluate what the intent behind this woody is. They will just assume the worst and be like, "Look at the pervert with the boner."

I think we would be asking to much of society to disregard their natural tendacies to make a judgement upon seeing this. Some of us are naturally confrontational, some submissive, some of us very tolerant. Everyone will have their own individule reaction to this situation. Such is life, big deal, or maybe not, live and let live. But just be prepared to deal with the situation as it developes. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Now when I go to the beach I get bored just sitting there. I go and walk up the beach or go play in the water whatever. If I happen to be more than a few steps from my towel and "it" happens I just go out into the water until it goes away. The absolute last thing I want to be doing is walking down the beach sporting wood. No one is going to bother to take the time to stop and evaluate what the intent behind this woody is. They will just assume the worst and be like, "Look at the pervert with the boner."
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>The assumption is one that shows that despite the naturist claim to be tolerant and accepting of the natural human body, that we( as a group) have a long way to go. Most erections, unless continually stimulated, go away in a few minutes. Unfortunately, the inability of naturists to accept that natural event forces the unfortunate possessor of an erection to either jump in the water, cover his body in shame(funny thing for a group that claims there is no shame in a nude body) or roll over and think of train wrecks.

Someday in the future, I hope that naturists will be able to walk the talk of body acceptance.

BTW, when newcomers ask at our club about erections, we point out all us old geezers and tell them that if an erection occurs, we look at it as a miracle. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[NudeAl]

posted March 21, 2004 05:17 PM
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BTW, when newcomers ask at our club about erections, we point out all us old geezers and tell them that if an erection occurs, we look at it as a miracle.

As long as you don't fall to your knees and worship it I guess you are alright /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

[OZJames]

Humerous aside - This week on TV the "Inventors" show a man displayed his new "invention" - mens underpants called "Stiffies".

They looked very similar to any mens underpants but on the inside of the front was sown a loop or open ended pocket of material about 3 inches long diagonally up from the centre. The idea is that if you get an erection it is directed up the pocket and is held neatly without any embarassing bulge out the front of the pants.

They are currently sold in the Bondi market in Sydney.

JAMES

[HappilyNude]

I think the matter boils down to one of consideration. We have seen most of the users above making vague hypothetical situations where a scenario with family members is thrown into the same pot as a scenario with a strange man and a preteen child. I think there should be an unspoken etiquette where amongst strangers, the erection should be noticebly covered up or hidden until such time as the other party indicates that they are not troubled by seeing it. After all, its not the fact that the erection has been noticed that causes discomfort amongst other people so much as the fact that the erection is being blatantly flaunted in other peoples sight with total disregard for their own comfort. A stranger may indicate that (she) is not offended by a stranger's state of arousal in which case - I believe - it is fine.

I think there is a second point to this topic which must be considered. To act either ashamed or overly unashamed both cause unnecessary attention to be drawn to the aroused member. Whereas showing shame is accepted by society (but is probably unhealthy), the other extreme is most definitely offensive. The correct approach to a 'hard-on attack' would be to act naturally, in other words don't make a scene. Then make a decision - based on the present company - about the necessity of covering up or not. You will find that women in general are not offended if the male is just getting on with being natural. Lewd behaviour + arousedness = suspicion and offence. Natural (inoffensive) behaviour + arousedness = nature at its most beautiful!!

[Guy L]

Great post "Lovinglife"...

I totally agree with you.

GL

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by lovinglife:
The apparent philosophy and reactions here in the states about getting an erection at nudist events has always been an issue with me. Putting aggressiveness, showing off and physical contact aside, which should never be allowed, why are so many folks up in arms about it?

I have enjoyed occasional nude events about once or twice a year for the last 35 years here in the states and in several other countries. And it seems that some bloke who gets stimulated by an attractive woman, conversation or even the breeze is thought of as a sexual predator.

I?ve seen posts in some forums where a young lady clamed to be ?frightened? by seeing some guy innocently getting an erection. Is there something wrong with that perception? Have we been conditioned to think of a rigid penis as weapon?

I have been in quite a few nude events in other countries where with the proper etiquette as stated above, an erection while walking, laying down or in conversation with a woman is either comfortably disregarded or is viewed as a compliment. Certainly a natural event and not an attack.

It is absolutely necessary and proper out of respect to set sexual tones aside. But how or why should a man or woman disregard the sensual side of nudity? It?s a holistic part of nudity. If a woman gets aroused by the proximity of a attractive male, the wind or thoughts of her boyfriend or husband, the lack of a visual response (other than possibly erect nipples) makes it a non issue. But if us guys respond to stimulation, we are viewed as child molesters.

I have been with my wife while speaking with my sister in law (on the beach) and had a stimulus response. Neither my wife or her sister was offended (her sister asked jokingly if I was happy to see her). In fact it was I who felt a little transparent. The point is that if it happens, it?s a natural response. Why does our culture react so negatively to it?

Most ?clothing optional? folks here in the states seem to have a ?double standard view? of men VS women. If a woman demonstrates sensuality (not sexuality) or a response to it, its ?beautiful? and accepted. If we guys respond to sensuality, or act sensually, it seems to be viewed as something between a terrorist attack and a mugging.

I hope we can someday get to the point of reality and honesty where we can appreciate each others physical self for what we are and stop putting stigma?s on the same. Until then, nudists are not as free and open as we thing we are.

Ladies, most of us guys are not out to ?get you?. If we respond in such a manner, please, like our European neighbors, understand that it is normal and in fact a compliment and we in no way want to embarrass or force anything on you. Remember, in the proper context, if we guys didn?t respond to you as such, humanity would come to a screeching end.

Thanks for letting me ?rant? and please feel free to agree or flame me. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

[Naturist Mark]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by HappilyNude:
I think there is a second point to this topic which must be considered. To act either ashamed or overly unashamed both cause unnecessary attention to be drawn to the aroused member. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Absolutely. Erections happen. No big deal. No shame. Just deal with the situation appropriately.

An appropriate mature attitude does not mean to accept any behavior because it is 'natural'. Erections happen without volition, there is no shame and no agenda in that. How you behave is another matter completely. People who are seeking permission to enjoy their erections while in a social nudist context because they are 'natural' are barking up the wrong tree.

-Mark

[Bob S.]

"However, the erection is part of the behavior we evaluate,"

Trailscout, that was the point of lovinglife's point, that we give too much attention to the penis. Nudists claim that every part of the body is fine, but that only lasts when the penis is flaccid. As soon as the penis becomes erect, there is suddenly, as the topic suggests, erection phobia. Where once an innocent, limp penis rested, now an evil, erection stands. Why does the influx of blood change it so much?

"or more accurately the failure to retreat when an erection occurs is a decision that is part of overall behavior."

But why should someone immediately retreat when they get an erection?

You know, this whole discussion reminds me of the arguments for and against nudism. I even mentioned previously that the erection issue for nudists is similar to the nudity topic for textiles.

And the issues are the same: nudity=sex; erections=sex. We know that neither one of those are true in most situations. If someone were at a CO beach and quickly got dressed when someone came, it would arouse suspicion.

Are we erection-phobic? yes.

Bob S.

[Ben_m]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Ben, I don't think you would be anything less than a gentleman at the beach. I am discussing the issue, not your personal character. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I'm comfortable with the overall tone of the discussion. I understand being concerned about the sensitivities and feelings of others, and am in agreement with that - at least within reason. I also think if all were right in the world, as a rule, unwanted and unflaunted erections would be considered non-events and ignored. Don't expect me to ever care if/when I see one. The apparent fear of a mere erection strikes me as silly. On the other hand, if agressive, suggestive, or sexual behavior is at issue (in a naturist environment) I will not be pleased.

[Fresh Air]

The "erection-phobia", I feel, stems more from the broader society and culture we live in than having anything specifically to do with nudity itself. It is a tough time in history, to trust a stranger.

Fresh Air

[Rex]

Originally posted by OZJames:

"They looked very similar to any mens underpants but on the inside of the front was sown a loop or open ended pocket of material about 3 inches long diagonally up from the centre. The idea is that if you get an erection it is directed up the pocket and is held neatly without any embarassing bulge out the front of the pants.

They are currently sold in the Bondi market in Sydney."

A "pocket of material ABOUT 3 INCHES LONG", James?

They wouldn't attract any customers in Fremantle Market, Western Australia, where "men are men, etc".

[Tad]

I am surprised that a "body acceptance" lifestyle
shames men who have an innocent erection.

Do we shame women for having hard nipples?
Of course not; that would be stupid. So is the
fear of an erection. Erections are often involuntary,
and having to leave the middle of a conversation
until you become flaccid again, does not exactly
promote body acceptance. No wonder there's
such a problem with erectile dysfunction when
even nudists shame you for being human.

Most erections happen during sleep.
Males have erections throughout their lives,
even in the womb. Is the fetus having immoral
thoughts when it gets an erection? Of course not!

Teaching our sons to be ashamed of their erections
is like teaching our daughters to be ashamed of
their menstruation. Both are cruel and damaging.

Bob S. is absolutely right! Read his post again:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bob S.:
"However, the erection is part of the behavior we evaluate,"

Trailscout, that was the point of lovinglife's point, that we give too much attention to the penis. Nudists claim that every part of the body is fine, but that only lasts when the penis is flaccid. As soon as the penis becomes erect, there is suddenly, as the topic suggests, erection phobia. Where once an innocent, limp penis rested, now an evil, erection stands. Why does the influx of blood change it so much?

"or more accurately the failure to retreat when an erection occurs is a decision that is part of overall behavior."

But why should someone immediately retreat when they get an erection?

You know, this whole discussion reminds me of the arguments for and against nudism. I even mentioned previously that the erection issue for nudists is similar to the nudity topic for textiles.

And the issues are the same: nudity=sex; erections=sex. We know that neither one of those are true in most situations. If someone were at a CO beach and quickly got dressed when someone came, it would arouse suspicion.

Are we erection-phobic? yes.

Bob S. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Naturist Mark:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by HappilyNude:
I think there is a second point to this topic which must be considered. To act either ashamed or overly unashamed both cause unnecessary attention to be drawn to the aroused member. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Absolutely. Erections happen. No big deal. No shame. Just deal with the situation appropriately.

An appropriate mature attitude does not mean to accept any behavior because it is 'natural'. Erections happen without volition, there is no shame and no agenda in that. How you behave is another matter completely. People who are seeking permission to enjoy their erections while in a social nudist context because they are 'natural' are barking up the wrong tree.

-Mark <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>And by taking no action, the behaviour indicates that the erection is a natural occurence. By taking the usual recommended actions(Rolling over on it, covering the body with a towel, or taking an immediate dive into any adjacent body of water), one indicates that something wrong is occuring.
Remember, we are talking about those spontaneous erections; not ones that occur through manual stimulation. Spontaneous erections tend to subside quickly on their own, and thus, as the Vermont Naturist Society states, needs no special attention. Ignore it and it goes away.

Seems simple to me. Must be a cultural thing. I notice that it seems to be mainly Canadians and Europeans that are more relaxed with the idea of ignoring erections, while the the midwest and Bible Belt States of the south seem to have the most uptight attitudes towards erections.

[LadyRaven]

Ok why don't we get a womans perspective on this. I am 23 years old and I have been living on my own since the age of 15. Not wanting to offend any one, just adding this for the sake of the statment. I was sexually abused and raped from 3 untill 8 years old by my stepfather and I was raped by an ex-boyfriend. Normaly this would kind of thing would make some one fearfull but I have been through therapy and I am still dealing with the reprocussions of it. I wanted to say that in my opinion I think Naturist Mark is Just about on target. If my daughter ended up in a conversation with a stranger I would have a problem with that in any situation nude or clothed, erection or not. I think that the behavior is the key. Now don't get me wrong if a man were to get an erection while in a normal situation I will normaly take it as a compliment...but...Even in clothes I would expect you to be a little discreet buy shifting or turning or "taking a dip" or what ever else you need to do. I am not ashamed by seeing a mans erections but if a breeze hits me right and it has been known to happen( my nipples are very sensitive) Then I will not just get up and walk around funny. I will wait untill it has past and that usually is fairly quickly then I can move. It is a matter of etiquette following ones erection. I think the situations that Mark brought up were right on target. Sometimes they happen in activity and you have to just keep going and not worry. It's not like you just standing there with your "pole" and flaunting it. Beleive me, I love the human body in every way but being polite nude or clothed is kind of importent in any society.

[Gary Naturist]

Trailscount said: "However, the erection is part of the behavior we evaluate, or more accurately the failure to retreat when an erection occurs is a decision that is part of overall behavior."

You make an important distinction. In my view, having an erection is not behavior. It's an involuntary reaction to some stimulus -- could be the breeze, or a thought.

Having a thought is not behavior. Let's say some guy has an erection and you can read his mind. He's thinking: "Gee, I'd like to boink her" (using Carla's term on Cheers)". Should we require that he NOT have that thought? Not in my opinion.

As you suggest, not doing something is behavior. If a person sees someone assaulting another, not taking some action is definitely behavior.

I think that nudists should accept erections that are not physically stimulated as natural. Neither the person with the erection nor the obververs should have to take action.

Gary

[Daz]

In my opinion it's not the erection that's sometimes the problem it's the behaviour that goes with it. Quiete a few times I have seen men ogling women on the beach and making it very clear they are aroused without stimulating themselves physically. Having said that, I have experienced myself and also seen other males have a random erection and there is nothing sleazy about it.

Please don't forget a male may have an erection simply because they are holding off going to the toilet (i'm talking number 1's) and as has been said before- when sleeping for example. There are many reasons a man may have an erection and when it's in public I would asume most people would understand so long as the behaviour accompanying that reaction is not offensive and is natural.

Take Care Everyone
Daryl
Australia

[Boomhousedriver]

I'm newly registered and after reading this string of posts, I would like to hear the women weigh in on this issue. It has been mostly men.
ladies, please post your thoughts on this issue.

[Trailscout]

Women's opinions don't count! If a man has a big erection and wants to stand right in front of some woman on the beach and grin at her, it's none of her business.

That's not my opinion of course, it's just what I am getting from some of these posts.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Trailscout:
Women's opinions don't count! If a man has a big erection and wants to stand right in front of some woman on the beach and grin at her, it's none of her business.

That's not my opinion of course, it's just what I am getting from some of these posts. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>My, you are as creative with your posts as SandyK.
Nowhere has anyone said that flaunting an erection is OK. All that has been said is that an erection is a natural occurence and thus should be ignored. It is the action that should be punished not the event.

Let me try and clarify for you through the following scenarios.

A/ A man is sleeping and develops an erection.

B/ While playing tennis(or any other sport) a man develops an erection.

C/ A man awakens with a full bladder and an erection and walks directly to the john.

D/ A man sits on his towel, watching a real good looking women a few yards away. He gets an erection, without any manual stimulation.

E/ A man sits on his towel, watching a real good looking woman a few yards away. He plays with himself and gets an erection.

F/ A man walks up to a real good looking woman and commences to stroke himself to an erection.


In scenarios ABC, there is no sexual or harassing action. Thus no reciprocal action needs to be taken, either by the man in question or the local woody patrol.

In scenario D, whether action is required by the local woody patrol depends upon the man's subsequent actions. If he continues to look or moves closer to the woman, his actions could be interpreted as being hostile to that woman. If he remains where he is and starts to play with himself, he is acting in a hostile manner.
If he gets up and walks away from the woman or to another area, he is defusing the situation on his own.

In scenario E and F, he is engaging in hostile action and should be stopped.

Note that in all scenarios, it is the action that follows or precedes the erection that determines whether or not intervention is required. Not the erection in itself.

Hope this clarifies the issue for you.

[bravebare]

Seems to me that a part of the problem is that some men get embaressed if they have an erecton
in public. One should be considerate of the people
around them. Good ediqute would be in order so as not to offend .

[newguy78]

That's my question. I'd like to be able to look at naked people without sex entering my mind, but I can't. What about you guys?

[newguy78]

That's my question. I'd like to be able to look at naked people without sex entering my mind, but I can't. What about you guys?

[TXK NUDE]

mind over matter, dear friend. What difference is there in the way you look at people with clothes on? We're still the same people...just in our natural state!

[fred950]

For those of us whom grew up in a nudist envitement, or at least familar with it, there is no difference between seeing a person nude or fully clothed. For those of you who were taught to believe 'nudity=sex' and are now tring to mend your ways, "Once the novelity of the situation wears off and you get used to it, it becomes a second nature NOT to see it in a sexual light." /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[shãybare]

newguy78, what is your age and what places do you go? How long have you been a naturist? How many times have you been to places to get nude? Are we talking nude resorts or a nude or clothing optional beach? If you are just sitting there with nothing to do but catch the rays, it would be easier to let your mind wander. TXK Nude is right about mind over matter but I would also suggest getting involved with others whether it me in conversation about other things than sex or being involved in games or swimming. Sex is at least 90% in the mind and 10% physical, so get active in alot of different things and that should help.

[Ben_m]

by newguy78 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I'd like to be able to look at naked people without sex entering my mind, but I can't. What about you guys? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Yes, newguy78, in all honesty and all sincerity I can. To me perhaps the greatest potential of what we call 'naturism' is the ability to see another human being in any state of dress and see just that - another human being. For myself, I can no longer look at another naked human being and feel lust (inappropriate lust - I'll make an exception for my wife here /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif ). I simply cannot bring myself to degrade another person in that way. I can only feel respect and an opportunity to enjoy the association with a person willing to be so sincere and open with me.

If it's possible for me (or honestly second nature at this point, and I haven't considerd myself a 'naturist' all that long), I believe it's possible for others.

Ben.

Many people associate nudity with sex. Men who are ingrained with that belief will probably get aroused at first (those that are able) until they realize that what they've believed all their lives isn't correct, and that people can be nude in mixed company without it being sexual.

You will be surprised at how quickly seeing nude bodies becomes commonplace. Of course, just as Ben said, when you're with that special person in an intimate situation, being a nudist doesn't lessen your desires. Being a nudist stops you from thinking of ALL women (or men) as sexual objects. They're just people minus their clothes. Despite the belief of some men I've spoken to, I've never seen a man or teen with an erection, and I'm sure some of them were new. I took my 23-year-old nephew for the first time, and except for a couple of times when a pretty nude girl walked by he had no problems /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif .

[Vin]

When you spend a couple of days rambling around the house nude, and catch yourself almost answering the door with nothing on, you'll have your answer. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Phil Stockdale]

I think even if you set out to visit a naturist venue (beach, club or whatever) with the intention of getting a kick out of seeing nude people then you would probably be disappointed, mainly because it's not naked bay watch. Most of the people there won't have glamour model figures, and it's pretty unlikely that they'll be doing anything consciously to turn you on.

To be frank, before I was a nudist (when I was in my teens and early twenties) I used to have quite a lot of sexual fantasies. As I got older and spent more of my time nude, and met socially with other nudists, such thoughts disappeared completely. I found naturism dissolves the minds curiosity about the naked human body.

That's not to say I enjoy sex any less than I did before, just now there are times when I am naked for recreation, and times I am naked for procreation, and there's no problem having a line between the two. Many adolescent boys, myself included, go through a stage where seeing an naked girl / sexual curiosity is almost an obsession, filled with lust. But teenagers growing up in an environment where nudity is common don't seem to have those hang ups.

Kind regards,
Phil

[Fresh Air]

newguy78,

Another important question is can you look at clothed people with out thinking about sex?

or

Are these naked people you are seeing in a real-life nude setting or in a picture (often not real life). One difference between pictures and real life is that it is not as idealized. Another difference is you can stare at a picture and let you imagination run wild. But, clothed or nude it's a little rude to do the same in a real-life setting.

Fresh Air

[Fresh Air]

Tad,
The sad thing is, we don't live in an innocent society. We live in a society with sexual predetors. In that context, erect nipples are hardly as threatening as an erect penis.

It is unfortunate, for I am certain for some an erection is innocent...but how are we to tell the good from the bad? It is best to just have ettiquite (which more do) and politely not flaunt natures course.

In doing so, it makes a standard of safety, but it also reinforces the good from the bad intended actions. One only clumps themselves stronger with the "bad intentions" group...wheather innocent or not...by choosing to break ettuquite.

Ladyraven,
Thanks for you oppinions, it's always good to have the famale prespective.

Oldman,
nice scenarios.

Fresh Air

[flbound]

My husband and I have been nudists for 30+ years. We host and visit nudist and clothing-optional socials {where both nudist and textile friends are invited). We also remain nude when we have only textile friends and relatives visiting us. Erections are sooo taboo at nudist clubs and resorts. Years ago we even witnessed a man asked to leave a nudist club because he had an erection that someone reported to club management. Outside that venue, our friends totally accept erections when they occur--and they do occur because of casual, playful physical contact or as the result of party games such as nude Twister.

[EricNY]

I find nudity less sexual and I do NOT get aroused at nudity. I am more aroused by a sexy dress or a skimpy bikini.

However I find the nude body more attractive, and pleasant to the eye.

[Gary Naturist]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Fresh Air:
Tad,
The sad thing is, we don't live in an innocent society. We live in a society with sexual predetors. In that context, erect nipples are hardly as threatening as an erect penis.

It is unfortunate, for I am certain for some an erection is innocent...but how are we to tell the good from the bad? It is best to just have ettiquite (which more do) and politely not flaunt natures course.

In doing so, it makes a standard of safety, but it also reinforces the good from the bad intended actions. One only clumps themselves stronger with the "bad intentions" group...wheather innocent or not...by choosing to break ettuquite.

Ladyraven,
Thanks for you oppinions, it's always good to have the famale prespective.

Oldman,
nice scenarios.

Fresh Air <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Whatever happened to "innocent until proven guilty"?

Gary

[missouriboy]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by newguy78:
That's my question. I'd like to be able to look at naked people without sex entering my mind, but I can't. What about you guys? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I think your question occurs to every guy the first time or two. For all of us with the standard upbringing that nudity equals sex, anyway. You have obviously recognized that your mind controls this issue, and that's good.

You say "I'd like to ... but I can't." Have you actually tried? How many times? Have you just passively "looked at naked people," or have you engaged them in conversation, or joined in with other activities? When you focus your mind on non-sexual activity, you'll find that arousal almost never occurs. Don't be afraid to try it!

My experience is that the "problem" disappears in parallel with your speed of "unlearning" that nudity always equals sex.

[averagejoe]

Oh, go nude often enough and eventually you'll get to the point where it won't matter a bit. Until then, this always worked for me:

Whenever you feel yourself strting to rise to the occasion, just say "Kathy Lee Gifford" as many times as needed to drive those thoughts from your mind.

[Naturist Mark]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by averagejoe:
Whenever you feel yourself strting to rise to the occasion, just say "Kathy Lee Gifford" as many times as needed to drive those thoughts from your mind. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I tried that method, only with Janet Reno and Madeline Albright. Unfortunately it backfired. Worse yet, neither will answer my letters anymore...

-Mark

[namedun]

Try Margarette Thatcher on a cold windy day.

[Ren]

Mark this down. I agree with Missouriboy.

[Trailscout]

I tried repeating Kathy Lee Gifford's name, but I kept slipping up and saying Kelly Ripa's name over and over and I got all warm and tingly and I had to go jump in the pool.

[WNYjoe]

This thread has taken a whole new twist.
ROFLMAO.

Joe

[Rex]

Would someone mind posting photos or links, so I can drool over some of the ladies who you guys all seem so familiar with.

[Don't worry about a photo of Maggie Thatcher. I've already got a lifesize photo of the Iron Lady, provocatively posed, up on the wall of my private den.]

[Trailscout]

Rex, here's a picture of Kelly Ripa. She's pretty, but it's her personality that charms me and thousands of other men. She is sexy and funny at the same time. http://www.pantene.com/en_US/testimonials/images/bio_kelly_ripa_photo.jpg

[David77]

She is a charmer! We <u>finally</u> agree, Trailscout!

[Naturist Mark]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Rex:
Would someone mind posting photos or links, so I can drool over some of the ladies who you guys all seem so familiar with. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Since I don't want to encite undue prurient interest on this family friendly board, I'll just post links:

Former US Attorney General Janet Reno. (http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/ada/images/agreno.jpg)

Former UN Ambassador and Secretary of State Madeline Albright. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/310000/images/_314279_albright300.jpg)

Just can't resist those strong intelligent women!

-Mark

[missouriboy]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Mark this down. I agree with Missouriboy. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Thanks, Ren. While we disagree on some things, I do appreciate your honesty.

[melissastarr]

How about thinking of Mother Teresa? That should humble you and quiet your sexual stirrings for a bit.

Melissa

[averagejoe]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by melissastarr:
How about thinking of Mother Teresa? That should humble you and quiet your sexual stirrings for a bit.

Melissa <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Sigh...

As much as men are accused of not understanding women, it amazes me sometimes how much women don't understand about men.

It may surprise you, but thinking about someone compassionate, caring, kind and devoted would have the exact opposite effect of the one I'm trying for. I used the example of Kathy Lee because of the overbearing, greedy and manipulative nature of the woman. THAT is a huge turn-off.

Pretty women are a dime a dozen (just like cute guys!). But ones that are honest, intelligent, compassionate and tolerant are rare. And those are the ones that cause a far greater problem for my libido than the pretty ones.

[melissastarr]

Thinking about Mother Teresa always humbles me, as she accomplished so much in her life to positively impact others. Thinking of her inspires me to think of how I can be better, which is not at all sexually arousing. I thought maybe that would work for me, too. I guess the old saying is true, though: Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus.

Melissa

[hairyhomer]

If you want to be absolutely sure that you will not get an erection visit my urologist and radiation oncologist and after surgery and radiation the only way you will have an erection is if you take a prescription(Viagra,Cialis,Levitra,Muse), if you don't take the meds you can have all the sexual thoughts you want and nothing will ever happen. /infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

[Jochanaan]

One thing that help me before my "first time" was to look at pictures of nudity, both men and women, particularly non-models in natural situations. (Go INA photo page!) The more I looked, the less I connected nudity with sex. (This doesn't work with porn or voyeur sites; they tell you what to feel. But many fine art nudes have the same effect, since they celebrate the whole body, not just the genitals and breasts.)

Also, be sure to read the numerous posts on erections. After all, there's one coming up in November--uh--never mind! /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Since I was 55 when I experienced my first social nudity, erections weren't a problem for me. My problem was a fear of not "measuring up" to other men. As I looked through the Photos of Freedom in the INA Web site, I realized that there are many men no bigger than I am, and many are actually smaller! That gave me the courage to try social nudism, and I've been hooked ever since! Also, I didn't see one man in those photos with an erection.

[nicehund]

I agree with Hairyhomer, Nweboy78, or sometimes age will prevent you to have them. You have to accept the way you are physically and mentally. Don't punish yourself for being like that. An erection is a sign that your body works and most real and honest nudists will not make a fuzz about it. It's just your nature.

[Vin]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by nicehund:
I agree with Hairyhomer, Nweboy78, or sometimes age will prevent you to have them. You have to accept the way you are physically and mentally. Don't punish yourself for being like that. An erection is a sign that your body works and most real and honest nudists will not make a fuzz about it. It's just your nature. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Another way to look at it: just accept that, odds are, sooner or later you WILL have an erection. The world won't end, it will go away, and you will get on with your day. Worrying about it just makes you miserable.

One of the best pieces of advice I ever got on the subject was "You ARE human, so BE human." Sort of summed it up nicely, I thought. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Vin

[P.J.]

If I'm alone with an attractive member of the opposite sex, and we are both nude, I suppose we could talk about the first thing that comes up.

Seriously, in a group setting, it would be easy to engage in nudism without the sexual connection.

The possible exception might be those who would like to engage in serious group sex, and have the monstrous libido and stamina to do so!

I'm not a homosexual, but I'm sure that while in the showers in school or while on active military duty, there were probably homosexuals in the showers at one time or another while I was also showering. But to be honest, I never noticed that I was sharing the showers with anyone with an erection.

If you do think that getting aroused in a nudist enviroment could be a problem, my 2nd piece of advice would be to bring a towel.

What's my 1st piece of advice?

Don't worry about it.

[lightmetal]

Sorry if this offends anyone, but here's what works for me...
If you consider the female body for what it is-for example: the female breasts are mammory glands designed for the feeding of babies. The genital region is used (primarily) for the elimination of bodily wastes. Both of these are strickly on a day to day basis.
Granted, they can also be used for sexual purposes, but it is the attitude of the female that makes them sexual, not just the fact that they exist, and in a Naturist setting, this shouldn't be an issue.

[tarsus]

ok people i like kathy lee,she reminds me of my two wifes sooo much.
and this whole mars/venus connection is easy to understand if you think about it. venus = toxic unable to breathe,choking--like a woman on a mans wallet. mars = thin unable to breathe,gasping for air,like a mans wallet after the woman gets done with it.
and like some others here--at my age i don't worry about it any longer--sex i mean.

[bigbadron091]

That's an important question.
Here's what I think......
When people disrobe together for social reasons,there's a lot more to it than just feeling good,especially for women,so let's try to put ourselves in their place.
When a women disrobes,especially in the presense of men,she's letting down all her defenses.
She's hoping that other people will see her as a person,not as a sex object.She's showing us all her imperfections,all her deviations from what some people think of as the classic model look.She's hoping that nobody will make a rude remark,or stare at her,or sit there and have sexual fantasies about her.
When you think about it,it's almost like a prayer.
She's taking a huge leap of faith.It's kind of the same for all of us,really.We all hope that we can create an appropriate atmosphere,where we can feel free to be ourselves as whole people,and not in the basest terms of simply being the object of someones sexual fantasies.Try to give this some thought.Try hard to feel the special kind of innocense we all enjoy when socially nude.When you fully understand what this meens,it's almost hard to betray the trust that others are putting on you when you attend a socially nude event.Above all talk to other people, get to know them as whole people.Participate in whats going on,don't lurk on the sidelines.Computers and messege boards are great,but it's so much better to just get out there in the real world and do it for real.Deep down we all want to be good people,to be liked and to like other people.
Don't betray that special trust.

[JF1569]

In response to bigbadron....
I think that not only women feel all of those feelings, but also men. My first social nude situation was preceded by thoughts such as: are there going to be "buffed" out guys with six-pack abs everywhere? Is my penis small? will other men there have larger penises than I? Will women be looking at me as a sex object? I understand that our culture has led to more of those feelings for women...because frankly, men ogle women more than women ogle me. But I think now in 2004, there are plenty of women who look at men the same way men look at women. There are even ads poking fun at women looking at the hot construction worker, whatever.
The bottom line is there are people of all shapes and sizes and persuasions in social nude environments. Just get out, have fun and relax.

[Jochanaan]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by bigbadron091:
When people disrobe together for social reasons,there's a lot more to it than just feeling good... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>But it does feel good! It just doesn't necessarily feel erotic. Let's be specific here! /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[bigbadron091]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jochanaan:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by bigbadron091:
When people disrobe together for social reasons,there's a lot more to it than just feeling good... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>But it does feel good! It just doesn't necessarily feel erotic. Let's be specific here! /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Hmmm thought I was being fairly specific.I'm not exactly sure I understand what your concern is.I did say
"for social reasons" and detailed the other reasons I had as well.I did say feeling good was part of it.I never once said it was erotic and I don't feel that way,if thats what you meen.I was responding to the post from the young man who said he coudn't enjoy nudism without haveing sexual thoughts and tried to explain why social nudism isn't sexual and was trying to give him some ways to deal with this problem.Maybe you do feel it's just about feeling good in a non-sexual way and that's fine.For me,any many other people I've talked to,there really is more to it than just feeling good.
I hope I'm being specific enough.I never said it didn't feel good.If I thought otherwise,I woudn't be sitting here naked writing this response ! lol

[Tad]

JONATHAN TAD KETCHEN (JTK.CA)
Christian Nudist, Artist, Photographer, & Poet
NudeCreations.com

Guelph, Ontario, Canada

(519) 780-1057
jtk@jtk.ca
http://NudeCreations.com

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Dear Nudists,


With all the fear and loathing of innocent erections, even
in the so-called "body acceptance" world of nudism, it is
no wonder there seems to be an epidemic of erectile
dysfunction. It is totally stupid and illogical, if a male
has an innocent erection, to condemn him for being
healthy. Even the fetus in the womb has erections.
They are a natural part of life and nothing to be
ashamed of.


Love in Christ
(the best kind),

Tad (JTK.CA)
http://NudeCreations.com

[Tad]

JONATHAN TAD KETCHEN (JTK.CA)
Christian Nudist, Artist, Photographer, & Poet
NudeCreations.com

Guelph, Ontario, Canada

(519) 780-1057
jtk@jtk.ca
http://NudeCreations.com

-------------------------------------------------

Dear Nudists,


With all the fear and loathing of innocent erections, even
in the so-called "body acceptance" world of nudism, it is
no wonder there seems to be an epidemic of erectile
dysfunction. It is totally stupid and illogical, if a male
has an innocent erection, to condemn him for being
healthy. Even the fetus in the womb has erections.
They are a natural part of life and nothing to be
ashamed of.


Love in Christ
(the best kind),

Tad (JTK.CA)
http://NudeCreations.com

[Craignude]

I agree 100%. Just like life it happens. I remember being in the 7th grade afraid my teacher would call on me to go to the front of the class because I had an errection for no reason at all. Try as best I could to rearrange my pants I was still sure someone could tell.

It just happens.

Craig

[Craignude]

When I was on the swim team in High School they made us wear those tight speedo suits. I was always scared to dealth I would get and errection and pop out of it. I had seen this happen to one of my swim mates and he almost died. I think if we went nude at events and people got used to what happens naturally especially to young men it would not be such and issue.

Craig

[JF1569]

This is an interesting topic, judging from all the differing viewpoints. One thing to consider is how erect is the penis in question? There are so many levels to an erection (well for me), that depending on what stage the erection is in, it can guide its owner on possible actions.
All penises move and natually shift due to mainly temperature, but also pyschological factors. As some have said, they're aware when an erection is "coming on" or developing, and then take necessary action to cover up, jump in the water or whatever. Personally, when I consider myself fully erect, it's pointing directly up in the air - and if that situation ever occurred, I'd most likely be in cover-up mode.
But, I can be half-erect and that can sometimes be more obvious as it then is jutting straight out from my body (when standing).
I think that all true nude enthusiasts agree it's not a sexual environment, and that erections can be considered bad etiquette. I agree with many here that what a man does, his actions, are more of a concern than the erection itself. Flaunting and obvious cases of "showing off" or bothering other people aren't really what I would consider acceptable. But, if you're playing volleyball, or other athletics, and it happens, ah well.
One reason men may discuss this issue so much is the fact that there are so many different opinions on what to do with an erection.
Some places and people say there is no acceptable erection; others say in certain situations it's harmless. How do you know when you in what environment?
I also believe that a major issue of body acceptance for men is related to the size of their penis. It's a common question - what if I don't measure up? We all agree no real nudist is going to care, but the issue is still there. So, to add another level to that, when you're erect, your true penis size is revealed. And, for many men that's the real fear factor associated with an erection.
They think, OK, I'm small or average...but I'm flaccid and we all look similar. But, wait, if I get erect, will people see my what I think may be a small penis?
The real key is knowing what the comfort level of those around you is...it can be determined by sensing the atmosphere or reactions of people. Also, if you personally think you're offending someone, then take the appropriate action and cover up.

[SargentIV]

When I was in seventh grade (apparently when boys have the most difficulty controlling erections) I would always get erections during math. I could never control them and there were two girls, one behind and one next to me. They were incredibly popular (so you know how important they are in seventh grade) and I could always hear them talking about my erections. It was incredibly embarressing knowing that there were girls out there who were constantly going around talking about me. Talk about the ultimate humiliation. Of course, I will have to concede that Craig's seventh grade teammate has the most embarressing story.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SargentIV:
When I was in seventh grade I would always get erections during math. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I enjoyed Math and was very good at it, but I NEVER thought it was THAT stimulating! /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

[northshore]

Nude twister, what a great idea fro a party game

[dlpcool]

It is all a society issue really. I do not know much about the naturalist lifestyle yet, but I do know that if someone is a true naturalist or whatever title they put on themselves that if an erection occurs then it will be handle discretely. It is those people who are not consistant naturalist that probably screw it up for everyone else. This erection issue, in my humble opinion also falls in line with all the other social phobia's we have here in the good ole USA.

Like, for example "Does size really matter?" Every teen age boy and and porn fan seems to think so, but like the tootsy pop owl, "the world may never know," because of the BS surrounding the subject.

So, does a public erection matter? It depends on who has it and who sees it really.

[Gary Naturist]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jon-Marc:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SargentIV:
When I was in seventh grade I would always get erections during math. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I enjoyed Math and was very good at it, but I NEVER thought it was THAT stimulating! /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>There is a direct connect between math (geometry) and erections. Something about "The angle of the dangle .."

Gary

[Niki23]

When I used to go swimming with the school and we changed in the communal boys changing room i used to get an erection while nude and drying up and I managed to control it.

[Hadaka]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Tad:
JONATHAN TAD KETCHEN (JTK.CA)
Christian Nudist, Artist, Photographer, & Poet
NudeCreations.com

Guelph, Ontario, Canada

(519) 780-1057
jtk@jtk.ca
http://NudeCreations.com

-------------------------------------------------

Dear Nudists,


With all the fear and loathing of innocent erections, even
in the so-called "body acceptance" world of nudism, it is
no wonder there seems to be an epidemic of erectile
dysfunction. It is totally stupid and illogical, if a male
has an innocent erection, to condemn him for being
healthy. Even the fetus in the womb has erections.
They are a natural part of life and nothing to be
ashamed of.


Love in Christ
(the best kind),

Tad (JTK.CA)
http://NudeCreations.com <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I agree wholeheartedly, Tad!

The morning I DON'T wake up with an erection or semi-erection will be the day I'll be heading off to my doctor to have my heart checked out!

Lying on one's back in the sun and nodding off to sleep almost invariably produces an erection as well. I reckon any nudist who says they "rarely see an erection at nudist venues" is really saying "I don't look at anyone else's penis". I really think all the hoo-ha that goes on among nudists about erections is quite crazy, given we are supposed to champion body acceptance. As for whether one should look at the bodies of others when everyone's nude, why not? Doesn't everyone look at other people's bodies when they are clothed? We should all be free to use the senses we were given. There is no perversion in nudity, and there should be no reason why any nudist should be afraid of anyone looking at any part of their body! Likewise, there should not be any shame attached to erections in nudist venues or anywhere else for that matter!

I've been to nude beaches, had erections and semi-erections, and never once covered them up, as some nudists suggest. I've never had anyone complain. All of these have been sensual, not sexual, erections - pure bodily functions.

The only time I've ever had what I'd term a sexual erection in a nudist context was the only time my non-nudist wife took a skinny-dip with me (October last year, in a beautiful mountain river). She actually got nude quicker than I did, which rather surprised me, and of course up went my penis! She said "Hey! Settle down! We're only going for a swim!" We swam around for about 15 or 20 minutes, and my penis stayed erect for the whole time, despite the rather cool water. Given that all previous nude moments we'd shared together had been sexual, I guess it was as much force of habit as anything else!

Hopefully, this post won't offend anyone here.

Hadaka

[missouriboy]

"Given that all previous nude moments we'd shared together had been sexual, I guess it was as much force of habit as anything else!"

Yes, that just about nails it. The biggest sex organ in your body, the brain, made that connection and took over.

[Trailscout]

If we can recognize that men react with erections based on conditioning, can we also recognize that some women, when they see a fully erect man, have a gut-level reaction to the sight of his erection based on their sexual experiences?

So why are we puzzled when they take offense at what they perceive to be sexual aggression?

If I am standing near a woman whom I don't know well and I have suddenly get a decisive erection, it would be prudent and courteous to allow for the possibility that she might perceive it as rude if I don't take a brief time out or reach for a towel.

If I develop an erection while playing tennis or volleyball, or napping in the sun at a resort, no one should take offense, but some resorts are so persnickety that I would also do well to cover up on those occasions.

[davy]

Erections are a normal part of the male body. If you don't want to see erections, then don't go to a setting where people will be nude. (isn't that what we tell the textiles about nide bodies?)

[Hadaka]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by davy:
Erections are a normal part of the male body. If you don't want to see erections, then don't go to a setting where people will be nude. (isn't that what we tell the textiles about nide bodies?) <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Hi davy!

I agree wholeheartedly with what you say. Are nudists who don't accept the sight of erections really able to say they accept the human body just as it is? I'm happy to say that, at the age of 47, I still have erections a number of times each day whether nude or clothed. Sure, sometimes they're sexual, and I guess my non-nudist wife going nude outdoors with me for the first time must have hit on a long wished-for desire, and triggered an erection. I don't think anyone could be blamed for that.

If we want to see more young males (especially teenagers) going nude, and bringing their sisters and girlfriends with them into healthy nude recreation, we need to remove the stigma which has been attached to erections.

Encouragement and acceptance are what is needed.

Thanks for your post, davy!

Hadaka

[Trailscout]

Hadaka, an erection can be managed in such a way as not to threaten or intimidate, or it can be mishandled (pardon the choice of words). Eyes are the same way. We all have them, no one seems to object, unless they are used to stare at a stranger.

[Hadaka]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Trailscout:
Hadaka, an erection can be managed in such a way as not to threaten or intimidate, or it can be mishandled (pardon the choice of words). Eyes are the same way. We all have them, no one seems to object, unless they are used to stare at a stranger. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Again, I agree with you too, Trailscout!

There is never any intimidation or threat if the person involved is deliberately avoiding confrontation, or backs off should any confrontation occur.

I've usually found nudists (and non-nudists at clothing-optional beaches) accept the fact that there are times when penises will "do their own thing". Certainly, it's agreed there's no room in nudist situations for those who deliberately engage in public sexual acts, whether they be masturbation, or penetrative sex. I don't think there is anything wrong, though, if a nudist couple has a bit of a kiss and cuddle in public, even if this might trigger an erection. Plenty of people would find the same thing acceptable if people are clothed. What's unacceptable is full-on public sex. For example, my wife and I did have a kiss and cuddle during our skinny-dip together, but no sex. That was even though there was absolutely no-one around!

I hope I'm not pointing in the wrong direction (again, pardon the pun)!

Regards,

Hadaka

[SrvntOfGod]

Hello! I'm new to this whole nudism thing. A friend of mine brought it up and we've been looking into it. Niether of us have actually tried it but we want to. I'm married and my wife seems to be open to it as well. My wife and I have been going nude at home 90% of the time. We're just trying to work out a time to try a resort now. One concern I had is: What's the regulations concerning erections at a resort or beach? Especially with a rookie nudist? Is it understandable for a man to be erect on his first visit to a resort? Are people cool with that because it's the first time? I've heard the erection goes down after a while anyway. But even after the first time, being male I would think it would be common to get an erection periodically. But I didn't know if people were morbidly offended by an erection. What's the basic take on an erection at a nudist resort or beach? I don't want to offend anyone on my first time (or any time) and I don't want to repel people at a resort. (Especially women) If anyone has anything to help me with this I'd appreciate it! Thanks!

[SrvntOfGod]

Hello! I'm new to this whole nudism thing. A friend of mine brought it up and we've been looking into it. Niether of us have actually tried it but we want to. I'm married and my wife seems to be open to it as well. My wife and I have been going nude at home 90% of the time. We're just trying to work out a time to try a resort now. One concern I had is: What's the regulations concerning erections at a resort or beach? Especially with a rookie nudist? Is it understandable for a man to be erect on his first visit to a resort? Are people cool with that because it's the first time? I've heard the erection goes down after a while anyway. But even after the first time, being male I would think it would be common to get an erection periodically. But I didn't know if people were morbidly offended by an erection. What's the basic take on an erection at a nudist resort or beach? I don't want to offend anyone on my first time (or any time) and I don't want to repel people at a resort. (Especially women) If anyone has anything to help me with this I'd appreciate it! Thanks!

[JF1569]

If you do some searching on this site, you'll find a lot of lengthy posts on erections. Search through new nudists, fun of nudism, etc...and go back a year. There are tons of posts about erections, how to handle them, and all sorts of tidbits of advice.
From someone who just began visiting an official resort (me), I can tell you that for me there was absolutely NO problem whatsoever with erections.
Of course, I had the normal nervous thoughts about it...but, nothinf unexpected came up. I have been to beaches a lot and nude hot springs resorts, so I had some background, but visiting a landed, official nude resort is a bit different.
There was one time I had some movement, when an insanely attractive woman walked around a lot, but otherwise everything kept cool!
Good luck and don't worry too much about it.

[blindmanin99]

Definitely check out all the different posts throughout the board. I've been to several nudist resorts, in Texas in fact, and have never had a problem with an erection, meaning I never got one. Of course, I was very nervous and worried the first time I went to a resort, but it ended up being a piece of cake. I was using all the facilities and meeting all kinds of people and never had a problem with it. You'll eventually feel relaxed about it and won't have to worry about anything. The only thing I was worried about was that I would get so relaxed in the lounge chair, that I would fall asleep and wake up in an akward situation. Just relax and enjoy your visit.

[skyclad85]

I don't think that there is anything wrong with admitting that I find 'certain' nude guys sexually appealing, and that I enjoy looking at them because of it. I also don't think there is anything wrong with enjoying being looked at because the opposite sex finds me attractive. I think that is a compliment. BUT - there is a big difference between someone who looks at you and thinks 'hey, that's one attractive lady or man, I like what I see', and someone who stares and gawks, and drools.

IOw - finding someone attractive to the point where it may arouse sexual feelings/thoughts isn't so bad - its what you do about it. Do you keep it to yourself out of respect to the other person (which is the right thing to do) and maybe look for a moment, but then return to going about your own business, or do you become aggressive and start approaching someone in a sexual manner (which is the wrong thing to do)?

It's the same if any of us were textiles, and happen to see someone that we find attractive. It's not what you think or feel, but what you do or don't do that makes the difference.

I have only been a practicing nudist for about one year now - I don't practice nudism in order to be an exhibitionist. I love the feeling of freedom it gives me, the warmth of the sun on my skin and the feel of a cool breeze, or the feel of the water when I go swimming - but, if someone finds me attractive I take that as a compliment, as long as they remain respectful of me. I find certain nude guys sexually attractive, but I don't approach them on it anymore then I would chase a textile down the street because I find them attractive.


So I don't worry about someone finding a nude person sexually attractive - it's OK. We are, after all, only human and humans enjoy sex. I would get really angry over someone approaching me in an unwelcome manner.

So even though nudism isn't about sex, a nudist can find another nudist just as sexually attractive as a clothed body. It just depends on what appeals to each of us personally.

[JayFromFLA]

Me (a 23 year old guy, then 18) and my two friends that happen to be girls (at the time 18 and 19) went to Cypress Cove.

When we went to the pool area, lots of people were looking at them. They felt odd at first, then I explained two things to them:

1) I asked them to think back to a textile pool where people were getting sun, and then asked don't people look at you there? I mean, you are sitting down, doing nothing and there are new people. It's human nature to look at other people.

2) I asked them, if you were in a room with 250 other people age 0-22 and three senior citizens walked in, wouldn't you be curious?

[Hadaka]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Trailscout:
If I develop an erection while playing tennis or volleyball, or napping in the sun at a resort, no one should take offense, but some resorts are so persnickety that I would also do well to cover up on those occasions. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Hi again Trailscout!

Speaking of volleyball erections, I just happened to notice that the "Photo of the Day" posted on this site on 16 May 2004 was of a nude volleyball match.

Guess what? The guy on the back of the court to the left of the picture has a very distinct erection. I've also seen other examples of erections in photos on this site showing nude running and cycling. I'm sure you'll agree none of these are anything for anyone (especially a nudist) to get upset about.

Hadaka

[Trailscout]

Hadaka,
I don't object, but I am particularly vulnerable as a single man, one who is still fairly unknown to many of the people I meet at the nudist park. I do not think that I am in a position right now of being able to ignore this old tradition among social nudists of either covering up with a towel, jumping in the pool or simply walking away.

I'm just being practical. If, in time, I get to a position of influence, I might, at our next council meeting, suggetst that erections that are spontaneous and not in someone's personal space should be ignored.

We, as nudists, should be able to get smarter about erections and let context guide our reaction. Many of us are not there yet.

[coop]

Craignude posted a story April 26 about the fear of getting an erection during a swim meet. While not as embarrassing, an Australian olympic swimmer stripped of his track-suit pants after being introduced to a full poolside audience during a major qualifying event about 2 years ago. He didnt realise that he had also stripped off his speedos at the same time. It was only as he moved to the blocks that it dawned upon him that he was naked; he just laughed, casually found his swimmers and dressed again for the race. The audience were good natured about the obvious mistake and no-one appeared to be morally outraged.
And nor should they if a nudist developes an unintended erection. You would think that in the early 21st century, no-one would be that concerned if it was reasonable to assume that it was not meant to embarrass someone else or be overtly sexual.
Some years ago I went to a nude beach with a 17 year old school mate and his parents; he developed an erection at one stage and his mother didnt seem to be affronted; we went for a swim and the moment passed.
It is interesting to note that teenages at clothing-optional clubs usually wear baggies; if alone they will sometimes swim nude but when with friends they cover up. Talking to them, it seems this is due to
1. the need to look cool (which you can't do if you dont have clothes on) and
2. in case they get an erection; which is not that difficult when you're 17 and swimming with girls and other guys of a similar age in a group.
Isnt it about time that we began to feel comfortable with non-threatening erections at our clubs, resorts and beaches. Its such a natural part of being a male; why are we continuing to apologise for it?
Enjoyed the discussions above on this topic- a good range of views.
cheers

[Jochanaan]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by bigbadron091:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>But it does feel good! It just doesn't necessarily feel erotic. Let's be specific here! /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Hmmm thought I was being fairly specific.I'm not exactly sure I understand what your concern is. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I was teasing, bigbadron! Sorry I didn't respond earlier, but there are just so many topics here (I nearly wrote "threads" /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif ) that I didn't get back to this one before today. And of course you're right; feeling relaxed, natural, and unashamed is not nearly all that happens when a group of men, women, and children get together in the nude.

Looking back, I was probably a bit off base in my response. Since this topic is about arousal or the lack thereof, I somehow associated your phrase "feeling good" with the topic at hand. Oops! Mea culpa.

[Trailscout]

Every summer when I first return to the pool at the naturist park, they keep whispering, "I just saw Bigfoot" "No, it's Sasquatch", "No, I tell you it's a Yeti!". "Don't you know the Abominable Snowman when you see him?".
Then some child says, "It's Chewbacca, the Star Wars Wookie!".

After a while, things settle down and they realize that this Trailscout creature is humanoid and no threat and by the end of the summer, I don't get a second glance.

Here's a pic of me getting some sun poolside:
http://www.angelfire.com/weird/mrbiades/chewbacca.jpg

[Chief78CJ7]

Whether you're clothed or naked, it's the thoughts running through your head that give you an erection, at least normally.. if your penis is rubbing agaisnt' your leg or something that can be a different story, but that too can happen with clothes.

You'll find out too.. but generally, being nude is the same as being clothed, except your naked. In other words, you can be 'rude' with your eyes whether you have clothese on or not.. you can get aroused whether you have clothes on or not. It's true... your brain is the biggest sexual organ. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Bob S.]

Hey Servent.

The first advice I would usually give to someone who was afraid of getting an erection at a park or beach is to get more relaxed with being naked at home. Well, you have already gotten past that part. If you generally do not get erections at home (under normal situations I mean) then you should not have any problems.

I am a member of a nudist park and have never seen an erection. Sure, once in a while, a man will have a semi-enlarged penis, but I would not consider that an erection.

You will generally not be bothered if you have an erection if your behaviour is not sexual. And a general etiquette rule would be to just use your towel, which you need to sit down, to cover it up until it subsides.

I would tell you not to worry too much over this issue. It is the common first time male worry and it rarely occurs. You will be judged on your behaviour.

Bob S.

[greensunshine]

Guys,

Here is my advice to all of you who want to restart this thread... GO BACK AND READ THE OLD THREADS many of us have discussed and rediscussed this topic to "THE POINT IF YOU CAN'T FIND THE ANSWER, pm ONE OF THE ADMINS OF THIS bb"

Greensunshine one of those who is more than tired of the subject being brought up /infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

[slowpoke]

To many it is easier to start anew rather than wade through all of the old stuff. Relax.

[Chief78CJ7]

The name of the Forum is New Naturists. So newbie Qs get asked.

If you find the question redundant, stop reading the "New Naturist" forum! /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Quite simple..

Do as I do--Ignore posts that don't interest you.

[greensunshine]

Here is my suggestion, if One were to read these old forums, many of the questions and concerns would quickly go away from others experiences from not only this concern but others too.

Green

[shuggie]

i suppose if the situation persisted rex you could always see the fremantle doctor-shuggie!

[stephen russell]

Are they OK or not.
Many posts say OK, some say be careful.
Was at Glen eden meeting some people & got suddenley Horny & stiff erection & told by woman it was OK.
I was 48 yrs old then.
Im 50 now look 33.
Non issue?
Women please comment
Just paranoia?
Old school mindset?

[stephen russell]

Are they OK or not.
Many posts say OK, some say be careful.
Was at Glen eden meeting some people & got suddenley Horny & stiff erection & told by woman it was OK.
I was 48 yrs old then.
Im 50 now look 33.
Non issue?
Women please comment
Just paranoia?
Old school mindset?

[grl66]

Ok, I'm not a women, but we were at the beach the other day and a male there was quite obviously flaunting it. My partner felt very uncomfortable. She said "getting one is gonna happen, flaunting it makes me freak."

So in a round-a-bout way, there's a woman's perspective if it helps at all.

[Nude in the North]

Here's a Mans input.

If for some reason you get an erection while nude you don't need to be ashamed.
If you are getting your Jollies by making sure everyone sees it. You need to be REMOVED.

Steve

[Unwired]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by stephen russell:

Im 50 now look 33.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm sorry, but what exactly does that have to do with anything?

[PanHandleHiker]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by stephen russell:
Was at Glen eden meeting some people & got suddenley Horny & stiff erection & told by woman it was OK. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Maybe you inadvertently took a Viagra pill instead of your Multi Vitamin that morning.

[ecnaturist]

As stated in my previous post, my wife and I are new to naturism. So new we don’t consider ourselves nudist. After many years of persuading her to try social nudity and convincing her the CO beach was not going to be full of perverts we did it and we have been back four times in the last five weeks. My point being, had she saw this type of behavior on our first trip, it would have reinforced her impression of social nudity. Not only would we not have gone again we would have left immediately and it would have been a topic never to be discussed again. If it is such a sensitive topic that you have to ask, error on the conservative side and don’t let in be known that you have a woody. I’m sure there are other men that would agree. Don’t ruin it for the rest of us. We have worked to hard in building a trust with our female partners to have it shattered so quickly over a silly thing like this. I’m sure at sometime or another she will be in a situation were she may see an erect penis. If an attempt is made to be discreet, there would probably be a felling of sympathy for him not disgust. As for being “horny”, what does that mean? I’m new to the lifestyle and I think it is anything but sexually arousing and if I did, I sure wouldn’t want others to know, epically my wife and other women. More could be said but why?

[barbararuth]

I remember one of my first couple of visits to a nude beach. My friend and I came upon a young amourous couple and he had an erection. We just looked away and thought nothing of it. In my six years of social nudism at my club in Central Florida I can not recall seeing a single erection, but if I did I would only expect the gentleman to cover it or go in the water. Case closed!

[krcNY]

It would depend on the situation. If it just happened out of the blue, I would try to ignore it so the guy would not be embarassed. No big deal.

It he purposely made it happen, I would be upset. Big Deal.

[FireProf]

This probably won't do any good and this thread may take off like others on the same topic

but...you've got two highly respected and admired women of this forum giving you some good advice. This is what is expected by most nudist women and men.

Let the debate begin.... http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Unwired:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by stephen russell:

Im 50 now look 33.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm sorry, but what exactly does that have to do with anything? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Wassa matter you want to look 33 when you are 50 too? I sure hope I do! And if I did, I'd surely mention it.

And about this erection stuff.... an erection isn't a behavior. Flaunting one would be. EC, you took a huge chance going to a beach first. There are no controls there and the chance of someone acting inappropriately is much greater. I'm glad it worked out ok.

I agree with most the opinions here. Erections are a natural occurance. It's what you do with it that counts.

[Fresh Air]

Don't er on the side of disinhibition. Many people wouldn't care, but some might. If someone is not disrespectful in the way an erection is handled, then no offense should be taken.

Dan

[nakednudists]

Steve, as normal as erections are, you are not. A little advice, stick to things that apply to nudity and avoid hitting on women and stating things that you are 50 and look 33. Wrong forum for that.
As for the erection question, I am not a woman, but I have never gotten an erection while at a nude resort. However, it is normal and make sure you cover up...blah, blah, blah. Everyone has said the same thing so I am not going to repeat it (even though I just did). I have never been to a nude beach. Take Barbararuth and krcNY's advice. Its just like fireprof said, very credible women.

[nakednudists]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by stephen russell:

Was at Glen eden meeting some people & got suddenley Horny & stiff erection & told by woman it was OK.


And why all of the sudden did you get horny. I think you might be going to the clubs for all the wrong reasons. Maybe you should practice home nudity first before you are able to attend public ones.

[Laura Lopez]

We shouldn't make a big deal of erections, but from my experience I think they're uncommon to see.

I've gone a few times with naked friends or even my brother on the beach and they have got an erection.

Maybe there are times when a man can't contol his body and have an erection. I think that when it happens you shouldn't give a show, the right behaviour is cover lie face down to hide it or get into the water.

[GMiller]

I don't think I've ever seen one at my club. Unfortunately at the nudist beaches I've been to they are more common since the beaches seem to attract the kind of people who post these types of messages.
Ginger

[P.J.]

Although I'm no lady, I'll make a brief comment on this subject: http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Those who parade around with erections exposed are commonly known as "exhibitionists" and have no place at any nudist resorts or CO beaches. Those clowns need to be discarded from our beaches and resorts faster than used condoms. http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

Sexual arousal is normal but there is a time and place for erections and the time and place is not in the afternoon in front of innocent bystanders. http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

As a member of what is sometimes refered to as the RRR, I have no problem with nudism, but there are others in the RRR that do. http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

And the perverts aren't helping us to promote a healthy image for nudism.

[nudeaussie]

I agree with nakednudists on this because how could you get horny while meeting other nudists, you are in the wrong game and you don't sound like a genuine naturist. I have worked at nudist resorts and i never saw any guy get an erection the whole time i worked there. Do the right thing and cover it up if you feel it happening.

Steve

[Rabid_Clam]

Not being a woman I do feel erectious are natural but are not to be flaunted or 'handled' in a public gathering. To have one is natural and will go away in time.

[DoctorSurferDude]

What an old topic....

The issue is not "getting one", the issue is whether or not you choose to display it. It is polite to be discrete, it is polite to cover it up or roll over.

Most of the nudist freinds I have are women. For most, it weirds them out a little to see one on the beach, it's an uncomfortable feeling and reminds them of their vunerability. It is a different experience being a male vs. a female on a nude beach. Many single male nudists would do well to consider more insightfully what it must be like to be a female on a nude beach....if they did that with half an effort they would quickly realize that displaying an erection freely is not a benign event for the majority of women.

[DoctorSurferDude]

of course....if a woman is displaying an erection, that's not a benign event at all....hehe. But, you get what I'm saying http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

[David77]

Let us be highly sympathetic and exceptionally understanding when applying the above advice to young teen-agers, whose erections are frequent, rampant and many times completely out of control due to a newly acquired situation, hormonal event.

Most of these young teens want to keep their pants on to protect themselves from embarassment and criticism. If they do play vollyball in the nude and have an erection intermittantly a great percent of the game, <u>do not criticise, please.</U> In this case, they are not "flaunting", and stopping the game each time they get their many (brief?) erections is not a viable option.

Of course, I agree with the rest of those who post, that there should be no flaunting and about the general covering up with a towel.

[Sanslines]

Maby my experiences have been different, but I have played nude volleyball for ages at tournaments from California to Canada and White Thorn. I have never seen anyone get an erection while playing volleyball. When you are busy playing volleyball and focusing on working together as a team, you honestly never think of anything other then playing the game. For example, at White Thorn, the level of play is pretty intense and everyone is working hard to do the best they can at playing the game no matter what level people are playing at. Erections are a non issue no matter what the age of the guy.

[Walt Iliff]

I can't believe that this subject has come up, so to speak, in yet another thread. I am 56 years old and have been involved in social nudism since I was 17, so I'm speaking with 39 years of experience here. I have been to dozens of clubs and beaches over the years and have NEVER seen this problem, and yet I sense the newbee wannabes want to discuss this issue again and again and all of us....myself included, jump on the bandwagon like lemmings heading to the sea to talk about what is tantamount to a non-issue. Feels sort of like a Seinfeld episode.

Walt Iliff

[GMiller]

It's a non issue guys. I've never seen one at a sanctioned club; only at a nude beach. But even then, if I notice it, I look the other way.
Ginger

[David77]

Words of reality from TeenHealthFX,
"During the teenage years, many males get erections without notice or warning. They can happen all the time and any time, such as while talking on the phone, sitting in class, hanging out with friends, at the movies, etc. These erections are rarely controllable, often embarrassing and quite normal! In time, your body's hormones will settle down and the frequency of the unplanned erections will slow down."

[nudeM]

Posted by David77: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Words of reality from TeenHealthFX,
"During the teenage years, many males get erections without notice or warning. They can happen all the time and any time, such as while talking on the phone, sitting in class, hanging out with friends, at the movies, etc. These erections are rarely controllable, often embarrassing and quite normal! In time, your body's hormones will settle down and the frequency of the unplanned erections will slow down." </div></BLOCKQUOTE>------------------------------------------------------------------------

Then they quit all together, so I hear. http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif So enjoy them while you still can, but with decency and etequette (sp).

[David77]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Maby my experiences have been different, but I have played nude volleyball for ages at tournaments from California to Canada and White Thorn. I have never seen anyone get an erection while playing vollyball. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
You must not have played volleyball with young teenagers.

Incidentally, I have seen an older volleyball player at a resort with some tumescence and a thick fluid string swinging from the penis, which he would have to break off.

[David77]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Then they quit all together, so I hear. So enjoy them while you still can, but with decency and etequette (sp).

nudeM </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
If they quit altogether, see a doctor to get prescribed Androderm transdermal patches that you apply to your body once a day, which brings the testosterone level up to 500 to 800 count again - and man, you've got it made!

http://drcranton.com/hrt/testosterone_replacement.htm

[Sanslines]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by David77:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Maby my experiences have been different, but I have played nude volleyball for ages at tournaments from California to Canada and White Thorn. I have never seen anyone get an erection while playing vollyball. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
You must not have played volleyball with young teenagers.

Incidentally, I have seen an older volleyball player at a resort with some tumescence and a thick fluid string swinging from the penis, which he would have to break off. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I have played with all ages from coast to coast and it has never been an issue. I have never played on a team where it has been a problem but then again I play on coed teams so maby that has someting to do with it. I also may be too busy enjoying the game and playing with my teammates to notice such things. I also never have heard my fellow volleyball players discuss anyone having erections while playing.

[Fresh Air]

Bad anology, but I'm gonig to say it anyways. http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Lets say as men we commited a crime and were sent to jail. Now, erections are natural and just a part of the males daily biorhythms. Being aware of this, would it be ok if you started seeing erections (perhaps openly displayed) from a group of your inmates or a jail cell partner? Or perhaps, would you possibly find the erections as a threat to your own will? One might even find themselves with a healthy fear of something that by definition is not a threat in itself.

I know for one, I would prefer not to see openly displayed erections in a jail or in a nudist setting. I can understand that it happens and sometimes it can not be helped. It doesn't have to be hidden for shame either. There is a fine line crossed when discretion is not used though.

Dan

[David77]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Being aware of this, would it be ok if you started seeing erections (perhaps openly displayed) from a group of your inmates or a jail cell partner? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I have never been in jail, but I have been in a communal barracks on naval air stations with possibly 40 sailors all in one large barracks room with no partitions.

Since this was not a nudist camp, persons did not generally walk around the barracks nude, unless they possibly were coming back from the communal shower to their locker, by their bunk, for their clothes.

We wore boxer-type white shorts, so "tent poles" lifting up our white shorts in the morning had to be ignored.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by GMiller:
It's a non issue guys. I've never seen one at a sanctioned club; only at a nude beach. But even then, if I notice it, I look the other way.
Ginger </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Why do you look the other way?

[GMiller]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Cyndiannaked:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by GMiller:
It's a non issue guys. I've never seen one at a sanctioned club; only at a nude beach. But even then, if I notice it, I look the other way.
Ginger </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Why do you look the other way? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Maybe because I equate an erection as being a sexual response and, as such, should not get any type of acknowledgement from me.
Ginger

[NudeAl]

It can come in handy sometimes. You never know when you're going to need a towel rack, or even a hat rack for that matter. Not quite another hand but every bit helps.

[NudeAl]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Lets say as men we commited a crime and were sent to jail. Now, erections are natural and just a part of the males daily biorhythms. Being aware of this, would it be ok if you started seeing erections (perhaps openly displayed) from a group of your inmates or a jail cell partner? Or perhaps, would you possibly find the erections as a threat to your own will? One might even find themselves with a healthy fear of something that by definition is not a threat in itself. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It depends, are we talking about my own erection or Bubbas? http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif Definately against all Bubbas sporting erections in my jail cell. http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[David77]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Definately against all Bubbas sporting erections in my jail cell. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Ha, ha. The irony in the hypothetical!

[tinner666]

is it best to use discretion around other nudists in someone's house ?
Of course.

[Tall1890]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DoctorSurferDude:
of course....if a woman is displaying an erection, that's not a benign event at all....hehe. But, you get what I'm saying http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

thank you, i loved your response.....

[krcNY]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by GMiller:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Cyndiannaked:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by GMiller:
It's a non issue guys. I've never seen one at a sanctioned club; only at a nude beach. But even then, if I notice it, I look the other way.
Ginger </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Why do you look the other way? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Maybe because I equate an erection as being a sexual response and, as such, should not get any type of acknowledgement from me.
Ginger </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I would look the other way to for the same reasons.

[picco]

i think you have got to agree wiyh nude of the north

[GMiller]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by NudeAl:
It can come in handy sometimes. You never know when you're going to need a towel rack, or even a hat rack for that matter. Not quite another hand but every bit helps. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Don't tell me, you're the kind of guy who can carry 2 cups of coffee and a dozen doughnuts at the same time!!!
Ginger

[GMiller]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by krcNY:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by GMiller:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Cyndiannaked:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by GMiller:
It's a non issue guys. I've never seen one at a sanctioned club; only at a nude beach. But even then, if I notice it, I look the other way.
Ginger </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Why do you look the other way? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Maybe because I equate an erection as being a sexual response and, as such, should not get any type of acknowledgement from me.
Ginger </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I would look the other way to for the same reasons. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

...except of course, if he was hung like a horse!! (I just had to say that!!!)

[NudeAl]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by NudeAl:
It can come in handy sometimes. You never know when you're going to need a towel rack, or even a hat rack for that matter. Not quite another hand but every bit helps.


Don't tell me, you're the kind of guy who can carry 2 cups of coffee and a dozen doughnuts at the same time!!!
Ginger </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


You forgot cream and sugar, http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.giflol. Nope, never tried that trick before, http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif but now you've got me thinking,... honey I brought you breakfast, just the way you like it! http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[krcNY]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by GMiller:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by krcNY:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by GMiller:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Cyndiannaked:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by GMiller:
It's a non issue guys. I've never seen one at a sanctioned club; only at a nude beach. But even then, if I notice it, I look the other way.
Ginger </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Why do you look the other way? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Maybe because I equate an erection as being a sexual response and, as such, should not get any type of acknowledgement from me.
Ginger </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I would look the other way to for the same reasons. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

...except of course, if he was hung like a horse!! (I just had to say that!!!) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
LOL, I am not sure what I would do then, since I have never encountered that.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by GMiller:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Cyndiannaked:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by GMiller:
It's a non issue guys. I've never seen one at a sanctioned club; only at a nude beach. But even then, if I notice it, I look the other way.
Ginger </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Why do you look the other way? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Maybe because I equate an erection as being a sexual response and, as such, should not get any type of acknowledgement from me.
Ginger </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

But an erection is not always a sexual response. Some get them from being nervous. Some get them from being relaxed or falling asleep.

And another thing. Lots of people on here say cover an erection with a towel. Has anyone actually seen an erection covered with a towel? Are you really hiding anything? It's still extremely obvious.

[krcNY]

For me...it has been drilled into my head for so long...it will take time to get it out of my head.

[xgsft]

Funny stuff...

Cyndian has a good point, a towel doesn't hide anything. Best bet is to hit the water or roll over. I have never had that problem, but I figure if you play it cool, not make a big deal out of it, no one would be offended.

[Naturist Mark]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by xgsft:
Funny stuff...

Cyndian has a good point, a towel doesn't hide anything. Best bet is to hit the water or roll over. I have never had that problem, but I figure if you play it cool, not make a big deal out of it, no one would be offended. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The point is not to hide the erection, the point is to cover it out of courtesy. The question is open whether this is a necessary courtesy.

I know many nudists are not bothered by innocent erections - but feel that open displays of them invites problems from those who are not so innocent - such as the beach paraders.

-Mark

[soundman]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jason Lee:
some/most nudists FEEL squeamish (disgusted, nauseated, shocked, sickened) at the sight of an erect penis. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
How can we help them with this problem?

[David77]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by soundman:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jason Lee:
some/most nudists FEEL squeamish (disgusted, nauseated, shocked, sickened) at the sight of an erect penis. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
How can we help them with this problem? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
<u>Good question.</u> I think it is truly an unfortunate "problem" when anyone would feel "disgusted, nauseated, shocked, sickened", by this simple, innocent, occurance - of one of nature's blessed endowments, - but my statement is predicated on the condition that it is not self induced to provoke a negative response or done to offend others. If it is an erection without bad motives, I feel that anyone who is "disgusted, nauseated, shocked, sickened" is the same as saying that God or Nature played a filthy game on mankind. Not so!

I accept one comment above that a towel does not hide an erection, but is to cover it up out of consideration of others - when practical.

I believe that this post will probably bring out the forums "erection police" in full force, and that someone will give the retort that bowel movement is also a natural phenomenon, equating both, suggesting that they are equally offensive. Please spare us from such a goofy analogy, in comparing the sight of elimination of waste material with the sight of innocent stiffened skin.

[krcNY]

I would expect him to stay in the water. http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[HereticChick]

I think I'd just ignore it. Unless he was "using" it or flaunting it. No biggy....Um...bad pun.

[oddbutterfly1]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Nude in the North:
Here's a Mans input.

If for some reason you get an erection while nude you don't need to be ashamed.
If you are getting your Jollies by making sure everyone sees it. You need to be REMOVED.

Steve </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


That is exactly how I feel about it. I am a woman so that is my vote as well!!

Connie http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[nude open minded]

What a great picture of pure nudism.
Open minded individual having fun naked among others just like him.
Men sometimes have erection,censoring that fact change nothing.
We choose to be nude in public and we understand the natural flow of event and accept erection as what they are, what's the big deal????

[nude open minded]

It is fair and I understand perfectly. Didn't mean to cross any lines and I hope no one was offended.[/QUOTE]

+++++++++

Censorship hurt all of us.
The nudist naturist and everything we try to be.
It also give a powerful tool to the ignorance and the narrow minded to try and regulate our freedom.

[nude open minded]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Nudony:
[QUOTE]To be fair, if images of erections [innocent or not] are allowed to remain posted in the forums then the others which have been removed in the past should be allowed, or to be re-posted. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Any post you ever censored in the past should be re-posted to expose your narrow mindness and ignorance.
You offended all of us when you allowed yourself to censor any of our posts.

[Nudony]

Yes, I deleted my posts. Not because I'm giving up, but because I will not be the center of controversy today. There are much better topics for me to get controversial with.

[NakedGary]

[Quote by "Nude open minded"]
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Any post you ever censored in the past should be re-posted to expose your narrow mindness and ignorance.
You offended all of us when you allowed yourself to censor any of our posts. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nude open minded,

Your suggestion of re-posting censored posts is not possible once deleted off the server.

When you call any INA site and forum administrators, and many moderators narrow minded and ignorant for allowing moderation of this forum you offend, and come close to violating the Terms of Service you agreed to and must abide by to remain a member in good standing of this Site and Forum.

May I remind you of a few quotes from the Terms of Service [TOS] of this forum.

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Moderators, administrators and staff will NOT respond to any inquiries or challenges of these rules or decisions on the public forum. However, we will gladly respond to email or telephone inquiries.

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If you disagree, or want clarification as to why a particular topic, post or individual was removed, please email clothesfree@clothesfree.com or call toll free 877-261-6184. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

If you haven't already, Please read and abide by INA and the Forums "Terms of Service" link below:

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by David77:


I accept one comment above that a towel does not hide an erection, but is to cover it up out of consideration of others - when possible and practical.

</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Some might say that covering it is actually "drawing attention to it", especially if you have a bright towel. http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[David77]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Cyndiannaked:
Some might say that covering it is actually "drawing attention to it", especially if you have a bright towel. http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Possibly, but at least it will indicate to " sensitive persons" that we are giving token sevice to their delicate sensibilities, which should gain us some brownie points.

[Naturist Mark]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Cyndiannaked:

Some might say that covering it is actually "drawing attention to it", especially if you have a bright towel. http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Or worse - has a hole in it!

-Mark

[tinner666]

I would like to point out that at our park, an offended person would point the person out to security. The person would politely be requested to cover up or control himself.

That said, the point is that some people are offended and that attitude should be respected for the good of the whole. Frank

[Naturist Mark]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jason Lee:
pretend scenario: one day I'm at a Nudist Gathering in someone's house.

the problem is I don't understand why an erection should be covered up. (using a towel) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Doesn't really matter if you understand why. Unless it is your own property you don't make the rules.

Right or wrong, at most nudist venues a openly displayed erection is considered to be a breach of etiquette.

Involuntary erections are exceedingly rare in social nudism. The amount of worry and discussion (or dare I say obsession) about erections is wholly out of proportion.

-Mark

[NudistGuy47]

Naturist Mark,

AMEN! http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

[tinner666]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Naturist Mark,

AMEN! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

[Guy L]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by tinner666:
I would like to point out that at our park, an offended person would point the person out to security. The person would politely be requested to cover up or control himself.
Frank </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

(Response to the above post: This attitude truly shows an obsession with erections. )

I do not agree that erections should be considered "rude", "contrary to etiquette" or "illegal".

It is not a behavior, it is a normal human sexual biological response.

Acoording to some people on this board, the person thta has an erection should run for cover?? This is absolutely contrary to the body acceptance philosophy and the reject of body shame!

I think that if somebody goes to places where naked humans gather and feels offended by the sight of an erect penis, he should ask himself if he is truly a naturist/nudist and refrain from going again !

Guy

[tinner666]

http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif I don't understand some responses here that indicate someone should be proud of an erection in mixed company, in a public setting. I think it should be reserved to a private setting, with the person you love.
I would no more think of being in public with an erection, thank I would think of just saying " Excuse me", turning slightly, or not at all, and urinating!
Sorry, but that type of behavior always seemed standard in the animal world. Not unusual to see it in a pack of dogs or animal herd. It's what is supposed to seperate us from the other mammals on the planet. http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif Frank

[t bone]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Cyndiannaked:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Unwired:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by stephen russell:
the female body is a beuatfull thing and geting hard happens it what you do with very goodtbone
Im 50 now look 33.
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I'm sorry, but what exactly does that have to do with anything? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Wassa matter you want to look 33 when you are 50 too? I sure hope I do! And if I did, I'd surely mention it.

And about this erection stuff.... an erection isn't a behavior. Flaunting one would be. EC, you took a huge chance going to a beach first. There are no controls there and the chance of someone acting inappropriately is much greater. I'm glad it worked out ok.

I agree with most the opinions here. Erections are a natural occurance. It's what you do with it that counts. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Petrus]

I agree with Guy and I feel that erections are only offensive if the male concerned is behaving in an unacceptable and provocative sexual manner. If somebody is standing around innocently chatting and suddenly he gets an erection then he should be able just carry on as before without having to run for cover. I could not see anything wrong with the chap who emerged from the sea with one after larking around with his girlfriend-nobody would have thought twice about it if they had been wearing swimming costumes. Surely if something is acceptable when dressed, then it is acceptable when nude? There does seem to be a lot of discussion on this subject and, although erections are rarely ever seen in naturist settings, it does concern many men and in particular teenage males. It does not assuage their fears to be told that they should always carry a towel, fall flat on their faces or jump into the nearest water as if they have leprosy.

[yoga guy]

I agree with Guy L. Body acceptance is body acceptance. When we are sad we produce tears. When we are happy we laugh or smile. When we are tired we become drowsy and sleep. Erections happen for a variety of reasons and God forbid we feel sexual in situation that to me (after reading so many of these threads) is so guarded from sexuality. We are sexual beings. We feel sexual just like we feel hungry, tired, sad, angry and happy. The body, which we are always hounding everyone to accept, expresses itself in so many beautiful ways. Be free.

[soundman]

Is being naked in the first place a behavior that should be covered up?

[Petrus]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I would no more think of being in public with an erection, than I would think of just saying " Excuse me", turning slightly, or not at all, and urinating! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Normally, you can hold back on urinating until somewhere less public- even so when out walking with friends sometimes you have to stop for a quick wee! Involuntary erections surely mean something that is involuntary.

[Nu]

Experience counts.
Those on this board who have experience indicate that erections are rare.
The general rule expressed is that if it does happen, take some action in an attempt to make it less obvious.

The thread asks for ladies imput.
The ladies who have replied are generally indifferent to not wishing to witness such things at all.
They are certainly not encouraging.

Lesson learned.

[Petrus]

Unfortunately this is a fear that stops many teenage and young adult males enjoying naturism- at naturist sites, if there are any young males, they will either be wearing shorts or firmly wrapped in a towel. They are not likely to get “experience” if they feel they might be treated like a leper. I do not consider it freedom if you have to carry a covering with you at all times or stay within a few feet of a pool!

[soundman]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Petrus:
Unfortunately this is a fear that stops many teenage and young adult males enjoying naturism- at naturist sites, if there are any young males, they will either be wearing shorts or firmly wrapped in a towel. They are not likely to get “experience” if they feel they might be treated like a leper. I do not consider it freedom if you have to carry a covering with you at all times or stay within a few feet of a pool! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I agree!
That is the number one reason I never tried it until I can control it better as an older man.

[TANZ]

Ever since I passed those frustrating,adolescent,puberty days,I can't say I remember having an involuntary erection,either with pants on or off.
Like that old saying goes,the biggest sex organ is the mind.

Naturally Kiwi

[Nudony]

Since the ladies input was requested, and they responded, can we put this thread to rest? Now it's just guys responding...as usual...

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[Petrus]

I reluctantly joined in this debate as I am quite perturbed by the callous attitude of so many naturists, who claim to believe that the body cannot in any way be indecent. I can only assume that many (most?) women do not understand male physiology, especially in puberty, and the older males suffer from early memory loss.

[soundman]

I like this club's policy on erections:
[URL deleted by Moderator "NG" due to adult links]

[Naturist Mark]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jason Lee:
What happens if I get an erection ?

No one will mind and you will not be told off, criticised or asked to leave. In fact nothing will happen at all as nobody takes any notice. It is just one of those things that happen. Getting an erection is perfectly natural. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Depends on the place and circumstances Jason. Sometimes there can be consequences. But in practice it is so rare that it isn't worth worrying about.

-Mark

[MJ_KC]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by tinner666:
http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif I don't understand some responses here that indicate someone should be proud of an erection in mixed company, in a public setting. I think it should be reserved to a private setting, with the person you love.
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The problem is that most people would say the same thing about simple nudity. Change the words "an erection" to "nudity" and you will see what I mean.

We as a group are as prudish about this as most people are about simple nudity. Just an observation. I respect the sensibilities of the people I am with.

[Rabid_Clam]

This subject has been discussed allot. Most say it is of no matter if the erection is not cultured or intentional. A natural erection is not at all objectional and most natural in males of any age. To fondle it is asking for some problems and that is not what we are about anyway.