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NUDEGARDENER
03-11-2002, 08:47 PM
there are times when sunbathing that I find myself sprouting an erection, especially on a warm afternoon when I sometimes fall asleep. so, the question is, do the majority of nudists find this disgusting or is there an understanding that it is a natural event while being naked outdoors? /infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif
Oddly enough it seems from reading the posts on these forums that whilst most nudists "understand that it is a natural event" they also seem to "find it disgusting".
:confused:
nudeM
03-15-2002, 05:22 PM
I, too, get erections even at the age of 44. It's not that I am aroused, but erections ae a common thing. If not erections, it's the common drips. Is this something I shoud worry about. I don't mean to offend anyone, but I do not go to beaches or clubs simply for the mentioned reasons. Any response would be helpful.
naked bob
03-15-2002, 08:16 PM
If you feel one coming on simply role over or cover it up. Why? Because due to the current social standards it is unacceptable. We have a bad enough image in society already with out adding this. Not doing so would play to the negative stereotypes already running rampant out there and send the wrong signal to potential newcomers.
nudeM
03-16-2002, 03:48 PM
Thanks for the info nakedBob. I'll have more of a tan on my backside rather than the front, so I'll just play it safe and stay home and be nude in my own yard, so as too offend no one.
nudeM,
I think that would be a mistake. My guess is that if you plucked up the courage to visit a beach you would find that the whole issue of erections would go away fairly quickly.
nudeM
03-18-2002, 03:38 PM
Thanks Rik, but I have been to Pirate's Cove near Avila Beach, and I even started out with an erection from the git go. I spent a lot of time around the rocky area in the center of the beach. I spent a lot of time on laying on my frontside. Once the erection subsided, I had the drips.
I met a gentleman from Fresno and we had a very nice conversation, keeping my mind off the "erection" thing, but I casually looked down, and I must have had a foot of "pre-***" hanging down to my knees. I casually wiped it dry. The gentleman also noticed it, but was very discreen about it and didn't say a thing about my embarssament.
I found this to be totally embarassing, so I just stay home, because, someday, someone will eventually say something.
nudeM
03-18-2002, 03:49 PM
Sorry everyone. Must have hit the "send reply" button twice by mistake to get my message duplicated. Will be more careful next time.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by nudeM:
I found this to be totally embarassing, so I just stay home, because, someday, someone will eventually say something. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
OK, so a complete stranger says something which embarrases you. So? You just ignore them and get on with your life.
You WILL find that the "problem" WILL go away - but I think you perhaps need a bit more practice. So get to the beach and GYKO /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
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nudeM
03-22-2002, 01:58 PM
Okay, Rik, your probably right. I'll never see these people again, so I'll have nothing to loose. I think I'll just go out and, if I do get into any embarassing situations, I'll just let the chips fall where they may. Thanks
nudeM,
Good on you! And good luck.
I had a further thought about this today. I've noticed in myself that when I've not been in nude company for a while those first few minutes after you take your clothes off sometimes produces a slight "frisson" and you feel that stirring which you get at the beginning of an erection. The natural reaction is to mentally try to suppress what you think is inevitable but I believe that in trying to suppress it your mind becomes focussed on it and it has the oppossite effect. In other words the more you try to stop it the less you succeed.
So my tactic now is that if ever I feel that "stirring" I just ignore it. My mind says to itself something like "well if it's going to happen it's going to happen and if it does, so what?". It takes a little self-training but this tactic works for me, especially amongst strangers.
dont worry be happy
03-29-2002, 12:16 AM
Most people here and elsewhere received an education with puritan content (against their will) /infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif
Athough many of us would like free ourselves from it, much of that education still resides deep in our subconscious minds, and furthermore we are continuously being pounded by puritan "refreshers" everywhere around us (media, movies, songs, etc.)
The above discussion proves it. /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif
Erections are as natural as stiff nipples. As far as I'm concerned, most of them are non-sexual. I have an erection every morning before I go to the bathroom. When I'm nude in nature, I can get an erection just by feeling the pleasure of a breeze caressing my body. /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif
Sometimes, however, erections are sexual.
When I'm in the textiles world, I have sexual thoughts many times a day. Nothing wrong with that, it's human nature and it's healthy.
In the textiles world, when sexual thoughts arise, two people can usually arrange to have fun together in a private place. The same thing is true for nudists. /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
If, when walking on the beach with someone, I get an erection and the other person notices, I usually just disregard it and go on with the conversation. The other person always follows suit, and there is no problem.
If the other person is a woman I am close with, I might tell her that her presence arouses me. Most women would consider that a nice compliment and smile. Since the public beach is a non-sexual environment, we carry on with the conversation and the erection subsides.
Later, as in the textiles world, we might just arrange to have some fun together in a private place.
Born to be Nude
03-29-2002, 03:10 AM
Hey Mountainman, That will work! All these guys have to do when they start to feel a woody coming on is think of having the little guy "lopped off", that should settle things down. I know it would for me anyway /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif Hang a towel on it! BTBN
Bartamus
03-29-2002, 04:19 AM
Once again Mountainman I'm gonna urge our
contributors to ignore your comment. This
site helps the novice/wanna be naturist
ask questions of those who know. That's why
we're here. Don't you get it? I guess not!
Trailscout
03-29-2002, 05:52 AM
I have empathy with nudeM's "drip" problem. I had been a long-time skinny-dipper, but last summer was my first at a naturist resort. During a sand court game of volleyball with some very attractive ladies, I was just a little bit aroused dispite my best intentions, and after they had all left, there were some drips. I had a private moment to make myself presentable, but I was still a little nervous when it happened.
Any long-time naturists out there who can tell me what to expect in the future? Are the drips always a problem? Does it diminish?
GalSurfer
03-29-2002, 06:21 AM
Strange... all women know men get erections. Big deal. Who cares?
Imagine your whole family is nudist, including your parents. You're on a nude beach. Approximately 100 yards away from you, your mom and dad are relaxing in the nude. What do you do if you get an erection? What do you do if you have that foot-long pre-*** drip? You behave like you have good sense. If you wouldn't do it in front of your parents, then you shouldn't do it on a public beach. So show a little self-respect, and a little bit of consideration for those around you and cover it up or move away from those around you so they don't have to look at it.
Too many of the posters in here seem to asking for permission to flaunt it. A public beach is not the place for that.
Trailscout
03-29-2002, 05:22 PM
Of course, erections should be covered up!
However, they will occur dispite everyone's efforts to prevent them because many of us are still making the transition from the textile lifestyle. Male physiology makes it impossible for a man to remain completely flaccid throughout the day.
Most thoughtful guests at a beach or resort are terribly embarrased by erections and are asking for suggestions on this forum on how to prevent them and how to gracefully make your exit when they do occur. Many of us who are new to this life would also like some reassurance that the problem will diminish with time and better understanding.
A G string is not an acceptable solution. Complete nudity is the normal state for men as well as women. We need to learn new thinking and behavior, not go back to the textile world's way of viewing things. I have never seen male G strings for sale anywhere. Even if I could find one, I wouldn't wear it. Many naturists and fair-minded textile people would consider it more sexually provocative than mere innocent nudity.
A libertine or an exhibitionist may occasionally wander into a nudist crowd, but I am not talking about them. Most naturists want such people evicted from polite society.
I do believe that it is helpful to discuss etiquette and basic biology. I wish I had learned some of these lessons when I was a boy, perhaps of middle school age. It's not fair for children to suffer in ignorance and silence because adults are too embarassed to talk about the facts of life and about basic nudist etiquette, even the less delicate topics.
It has been suggested that a public forum is inappropriate for such frank discussions, because children may stumble upon it. I hope that parents and teachers are closely monitoring the Internet usage of children and providing some guidance to teens. I firmly believe that at some age, perhaps middle school, boys and girls need to be reading the sort of information in this forum and have their parents there to guide them through these topics that they will soon be confronted with at the cusp of adolescence. To support my contention, I must call attention to the fact that INA has created a thread specifically to discuss issues such as this.
To GalSurfer: I am especially concerned about the sensibilities of the female contributors to this forum. Let me assure you that I am opposed to sexual "flaunting" as you put it, because it is demeaning and intimidating to those who are forced to endure it. I think some of us made a poor choice of words by saying "arousal" without quickly explaining that in its mildest form, it may not be perceptible to the casual observer. I don't know any men of good will who would not quickly retreat from public view if matters took a turn for the worse. If any readers don't know how to behave, this forum can help quickly bring "newbie" behavior in line with our community's standards. Better to learn it here than on the beach!
Trailscout,
You start by saying "Of course, erections should be covered up!" but then, in an otherwise thoughtful post, you fail to explain why.
I think what you mean is that erections should be covered up because you and others don't like to see them but isn't this the self same argument that non-nudists use against nudists - they should cover up because we don't like to see their genitals. Nudists will justify themselves (quite correctly) by asserting that nudism is natural but surely an erection is just as natural. After all if men didn't have erections it would have a serious impact on the birth rate.
In my view most men hide their involuntary erections not so much because they are worried about causing offence but because they are worried about being thought a pervert. This is why so many potential nudists are concerned about being embarrased by erections and is probably the biggest single factor which inhibits men from joining the nudist community. So It's right that such matters should be openly discussed and this forum is an ideal place to do so.
And to those who feel that contributors to this formum are obsessed with genitals, you must remember that the fundemental difference between nudists and non-nudists is that nudists expose their genitals. You cannot be a nudist if you don't! So it's not unnnatural that people are concerned about how their mind and body will react to such exposure when all their lives they've been taught to cover up.
Trailscout
03-30-2002, 01:52 AM
Rik,
I suppose that male prospective nudists may worry about being accused of being a pervert if they have an involuntary erection.
I think they are mistaken. When a man dances or plays volleyball in mixed nude company, it is understood that these activities may be stimulating to the point that his penis becomes less than flaccid. ("Half-mast", if you will).
I have never seen a camp director or anyone else take offense at this. If during the course of the game, a man goes fully turgid, then and only then he is expected to cover up or excuse himself.
I think that is unnecessary, and in no way indicates perversion, but if we are to live at peace with our neighbors in nudist society, we must cover up a turgid penis.
I have heard it said that we naturists behave just as we would with clothes.
I disagree slightly. For example, some nudist resorts require clothing for their dances. I have nudist friends who would not dance nude if the club allowed it. The reason is obvious. When slow dancing, you have full-body contact. Combine that with nudity, and the moment becomes too erotic for most people to share in a public place.
The same is true for innocent necking on the beach. You can't behave the same way without clothes (as you do with them)and achieve the same results.
Bringing it back to the topic of erections, we are dealing with situations that we never encountered in the textile world and we "newbies" are tentatively finding our way, with the help of more seasoned naturists.
TXK NUDE
03-30-2002, 04:20 PM
I read with some humor the posts from grown men complaining of frequent erections, or 'drips'. As a teen, I remember well getting frequent, and uncalled for erections, often at the most inopportune time (like getting called to the blackboard to solve an algebra problem). However, as an adult, involuntary erections hardly seem to be a problem. I'm only 32, but I can honestly say I've never had a 'foot long' string of 'precum' (I use that word reluctantly-but since it was used before...) even when I was 17! This whole discussion seems almost ridiculous! Children and young teens get involuntary erections because their bodies are going through changes they cannot control! Older men get erect because they are aroused. Granted, you may get aroused by a gentle breeze, but it's still an arousal!
So..what to do about it? Again, I'm going to use a term that I am reluctant to use, but I feel it needs to be said. As a teen, I discovered a way to keep those 'unwanted' erections in check. Masturbating before school, or during a lunch break helped control those embarrassing moments, and I think that for those men who still find themselves going through adolesence at age 40 or 50 will find that a quick trip to the john BEFORE going out to the beach or resort will help control that as well.
Please, enough said on erections. These boards have SO many posts, and answers, ad nauseum. To any new nudists, READ the forums first, please? You may find your answer has already been posted. Not that I want to discourage new nudists from dialoging about their concerns, I know I had any concerns when i first joined this forum, but reading what others have alredy said answers those concerns, and prevents repetitivness.
Now, before Mountainman or others slam me for what i have said, let me say that as always, I'm just expressing my opinion, and you may take or leave it at that. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
GalSurfer
03-30-2002, 05:50 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I think that for those men who still find themselves going through adolesence at age 40 or 50 will find that a quick trip to the john BEFORE going out to the beach or resort will help control that as well.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I can see the scenario now:
"Honey, are you finished masturbating yet? We need to head out to the beach."
EXCUSE ME!!! What wife would let this happen? After all, isn't that one of the reasons we married you guys?
Or maybe this scenario is better for those of you who have wives who don't like sex:
"Honey, better go to the bathroom now and masturbate so we can go to the beach."
I don't mean to knock anyone here, but this is the stupidest comment I've heard in a long time in here!!!
Bartamus
03-31-2002, 04:03 AM
T&k Nude: Thanks for an honest viewpoint on
a subject that may be a bit tedious but
still worth illuminating for those
with questions.
Galsurfer..I know it's easy to be critical
of others. You seemed to have "mastered"
the art here in the forum. Please chill out!
GalSurfer
03-31-2002, 04:48 AM
Bartamus, I stand by my reply. Get real here. YOU as a youngster may still feel the need to masturbate before hitting a beach, but at 40-50 years old? Yep, the urge is still there, but most of these guys are married.
Why would they still feel the need to hide in the bathroom and jerk off?
I am chilled out, kiddo. You ought to see me when I'm not!
Trailscout
03-31-2002, 06:36 AM
Mountainman,
Thanks for pointing out where I can get a g string. If I am at a beach that tolerates g strings but forbids nudity, I suppose that there is a time and place for them.
I do believe that it is possible for a man to be completely nude all day on an officially nude beach and a complete gentleman. Tell me if you disagree.
I do not want to be erect or drip and I don't know any true nudist who does. And no I won't stand around and pretend nothing is happening if it is. I do believe in covering up right away. The whole point of discussing it in this forum is so that when get to the beach, all the things we worry about are dealt with in private. There do seem to be a couple of knuckleheads on this forum who would walk around stiff as a board and parade proudly in front of women and children. That is not me.
You and Galsurfer seem to take offence at a penis that is not as shrunken as far back to the body as possible. There is some middle ground between the extremes; men who want to joyfully roam the beaches erect enough for intercourse and those who may be just a little bit fuller than completely shrunken.
TXK Nude,
I realize you are new on this forum so I won't be too rough with you. You complained about a thread topic that seemed repetitious or didn't interest you. You can ignore the boring threads and even start an interesting thread of your own. That works for me.
GalSurfer
03-31-2002, 02:09 PM
Trailscout,
Under no circumstances am I, nor would I, condemn those who are, in your words,
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>those who may be just a little bit fuller than completely shrunken.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
That was never the intention of my post. For most men, those who are "a little fuller" are for the most part, ignored. What I meant was those who are fully turgid.
The two posts I made in here were directed specifically towards a comment made about masturbating prior to going to a nude beach. My point was that I find that most men in the 40-50 year old age bracket are married men. I don't understand, if they have such a problem, why they would prefer masturbation to sex with their wives prior to going to the beach. Let's get serious here for just a minute, and I'm speaking as a wife now, I for one would be highly offended if my husband chose masturbation over sex with me.
I do agree with Mountainman on this one. If it cannot be controlled while on the beach, put a G-string on. A mildly turgid state is one thing -- dealing with drips is another. A fully turgid state is a third issue.
Women as a whole are probably less repulsed than you would think. One thing my husband and I found out is that men are offended easier and more frequently than women. Younger women are offended more easily than older women. Exactly opposite what you would think.
Just my two-cents worth.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by GalSurfer:
...I don't understand, if they have such a problem, why they would prefer masturbation to sex with their wives prior to going to the beach... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Then you have little understanding of men's sexual issues. Whilst I agree wholeheartedly with you that the idea of masturbating (or indeed having intercourse) before going to the beach as a means of supressing erections is ludicrous, I think it is naive to assume that all married heterosexual men at all times would prefer to have intercourse than to masturbate.
If you were able to conduct an honest survey I think you'd find that the majority of married men masturbate from time to time even though they may have a completely fulfilling sex life with their partners. Most men see masturbation as complementary to intercourse and not a substitute for it and women should certainly not feel threatened or offended by it - but of course they do! Well that's women for you /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
TXK NUDE
03-31-2002, 03:35 PM
Galsurfer, I agree that consentual sex with your partner would be better than the old manual approach, however, most of the older men who post problems with unwanted erections or drips tend to be divorced, or widowed. Therefore they may not have a partner to help eliminate these unwanted problems. I can assure you that my wife would rather I take matters "in hand" rather than embarrass her at the poolside sporting something that was meant for her eyes only.
Trailscout, it's not that this information is not needed or required for new nudists. i myself had these questions when I first began in nudism. I still have questions, for that matter. However, if we combined every thread that has been ever started on these forums about unwanted erections from kids to adults, most of them would be almost identical in question and response. I do not say it is unneccessary, but rather that if this were a court of law, the opposing attorney would be objecting on the basis that the question has ben asked and answered. Now if someone were to ask what to do about a penis that chooses to shrink up and hide inside the skin folds...now that would be different.
As always, just expressing my opinion--take it or leave it. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Mountainman, you are really good! Without a doubt your postings are the best April Fool's joke on the web today! Keep up the good work.
Mountainman,
You say "You think women have no clues on the behaviors of men?"
I didn't say that. I said "Then you have little understanding of men's sexual issues". My comment was aimed at Galsurfer to whose post I was responding.
You say " Well I think you are being the fool again."
I take that for granted - no need to tell me everytime :-)
You say "My wife has 3 grown boys and I am her second husband. She is quite knowledgable of the things of men's sexuality. So you cannot just as a youngster make such a loose statement that a woman would have not a clue about men's sexual behaviors."
As usual you assume that whatever happens in your family applies to the rest of the world. You need to get out more /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
You say "To place masturbation in the married state is totally wrong and against the reasons of being married in the first place. To masturbate inside of a marriage is and always will be considered sinful. If you or anyone call yourselves a Christian then this act is not an issue."
You are entitled to consider it sinful - I have no problem with that - but the brutal reality is that there is sufficient evidence to suggest that so many men do it we must have a world full of sinners!
You say "What you are trying to say is that our younger boys should commit mortal sins just to parade around in the nude. I think it needs to be reconsidered. "
If you read my post properly you will see that I agreed "wholeheartedly" with Galsurfer that "the idea of masturbating (or indeed having intercourse) before going to the beach as a means of supressing erections is ludicrous". Which bit of that don't you understand?
nudeM
03-31-2002, 10:12 PM
I think we are getting off course talking about masturbating or sexual intercourse just to supress erections. We should keep on the erections and dripping subjects that was originally intended.
I also want to apologize for using the term "pre-***". I think we are all grown men and women, and everyone knew exactly what I meant. I didn't mean to offend anyone, and I shall be more "sensative" as to the wording I use in the future.
Jon-Marc
You said "The only problem I can see with masturbation is if the person has sexual fantasies while doing it."
Well I don't know what such a problem might be in your eyes BUT have you ever heard of anyone who masturbates without having sexual fantasies. I don't think it can be done can it?
Seriously though, people can masturbate as much as they like but the point of the argument was that this would be most unlikely to prevent an erection on a beach.
nudeM
You said "I think we are getting off course talking about masturbating or sexual intercourse just to supress erections. We should keep on the erections and dripping subjects that was originally intended." The issue, as always, is about how to avoid erections. Much as it was a pretty dumb suggestion (in my view at least) it is nevertheless valid and completely on topic. Having said that, the discussions on these forums always take twists and turns in just the same way as any verbal discussion might - and are much the better for it.
You don't need to apologize for using any words here. Most people (including children) understand what you mean by "pre-***" so why should they be offended. And if they don't understand it then they can't be offended by it.
Incidentally the INA forum computer automatically replaces "offensive" words with asterisks. Watch this: **** off. See it works /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Bartamus
04-01-2002, 02:49 AM
GalSurfer: You flatter me. Yes I am a
youngster even though I'm over 40!
You made my day. Oh, by the way married
men over the age of 40 still masterbate.
TXK NUDE
04-01-2002, 05:22 AM
Mountain Man seems to have some VERY skewed ideals of what is moral and immoral. In this thread, he accuses men who masturbate in or out of marriage as being sinful, but in another thread, he calls a person who is staunch against wife swapping and homosexuality a "Prude". The truth IS that masturbation DOES eliminate the urge for 'unwanted' erections. Physiologically, an erection occurs "outside of arousal" as a muscular excercise (the blood vessels expand allowing blood into the vascular tissue to keep it healthy and alive) OR for the purpose of expelling unused (dead) sperm from the urethra. The first of these incidents is totally uncontrollable as it is an involuntary action, and the second is what causes the 'drips'. Masturbation solves both of these areas by allowing under controlled conditions for the vascular tissue to expand and allow fresh blood to course through the blood vessels within the penis, and it also eliminates the excess sperm building up in the urethra. Both causes of involuntary erections are dealt with quickly, privately and efficiently. DON'T call me 'NAIVE'! /infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif
As for the 'lust/fantasy' venue...if the gentleman is married, if he fantasizes about his wife, then there's no problem. Teens and unmarried men can masturbate without fantasizing...granted, it is hard (no pun) but it can be done.
Now, I have no desire to get involved in a battle of the wits with Mountain Man, as my mother always taught me to never fight with an unarmed opponent. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif As always, i just express my opinion-take it or leave it.
Bottom line, erections can be controlled, one way or another. There is no reason a grown man cannot take care of one. As many nudist resorts have in their rules and regulations, no erections...period. If a person cannot, or will not deal with an erection, then they have more serious problems than can be handled in this forum. While accidents do happen, and I think most people would forgive an 'accident', an obvious/purposeful erection is not forgivable. If you are asking for permission to sport one in front of me, my wife, or my children then the answer is a resounding "NO!" If you are asking for my understanding and forgiveness for an accident, then the answer is yes, just don't let it happen again.
RTSTEEL80
04-01-2002, 05:46 AM
galsurfer -----you married???
GalSurfer
04-01-2002, 06:19 AM
RTSTEEL80: Why would you ask that? If you read the prior post, you'd know I am.
I'm very happily married to an exciting guy who keeps life FUN. We don't have these problems since I take VERY GOOD CARE OF HIM.
Nude\'s wife
04-01-2002, 07:42 AM
First, let me say I am new here and I do not consider myself a nudist. My husband wants me to participate in nudism and I have come here to explore.
I have found some things on this thread that I agree with and some I disagree with. As a person just trying this out, I really don't want to see a man with a raging erection, and I don't want my son to see this either. However, I do understand that a man is not flacid all the time, and I could understand a semi-erect penis.
I felt Surfergal implied that if a married man masturbates, his wife isn't fulfilling him. I have to disagree with this. My husband sometimes does this and I definately fulfill his needs, sometimes I want sex more than he does.
I have some questions for Mountain Man. I have read the Levitical Law from which you quote. None of the laws talk about masturbation, but the ones that deal with emissions do not call them mortal sins. They only say that the man is unclean for a day. Now, with that said, what about the woman who cannot have children? Does her husband waste his seed by having relations with her? The couple who cannot afford children and uses condoms or other birth control? Does they commit sin? I don't think so! I was highly offended by your comments. I am a Christian, and I think you are being very judgemental of people and situations that are between them and God. Masturbation is totally different from "wife swapping" and should not even be compared. Wife swapping is adultry, which was punishable by death in the Old Testament. Are you going to stone those who do this? No, they should be forgiven, not condemned.
If this is supposed to be a place to encourage people who are thinking of being nudists, many of you need some serious people skills. Should I decide to participate in nudism outside my home, I hope that I never meet some of you at a resort.
Nude's Wife,
I really hope that you are not put off nudism by the people here. As a discussion forum you will often find people expressing all sorts of opinions. Sometimes people who disagree with other people resort to personal abuse as a means of getting their point across but of course all this does is to make their arguments look weaker still. Others will squirm out of justifying their opinion by saying "it's just common sense" not realizing that common sense is entirely subjective and should always be open to challenge. Yet more will quote sections of the bible in the belief that the bible holds the key to everyone's personal issues. Some will end their contribution with "PERIOD" or "END OF DEBATE" in the mistaken belief that there is no more to be said on the subject (these people always have more to say) and of course some will just SHOUT AT YOU. Most however are here to learn and understand about other people's experiences or talk about naturist venues and activities and don't resort to the tactics above. So all in all, the people here are probably representative of society at large.
To move this discussion off topic for a moment you will often find contributions from men along the lines of "how can I get my partner interested in nudism". Clearly you are open minded enough to at least think about the issue before making a decision one way or the other. Many people here would welcome the opportunity to learn from your experience and understand what your thought processes are as you consider the whole issue of naturism, what difficulties you have encountered and what things about naturism have surprised you etc. It would be great to hear from you further on this even if you decide that naturism is not for you.
Rik
For those readers of this thread which haven't spent much time nude in resorts, beach settings, etc., perhaps a bit of reassurance: My wife and I "got serious" about nudism 2 yrs. ago. We have spent many days in 7 different resorts in 3 states. We have interacted with literally hundreds of other nudists. In all that time, I have not seen ANY problem at any resort pertaining to erections. In fact, I can count on ONE hand the erections I have seen, with fingers to spare. While some clubs' printed matter might be of a threatening tone on the subject, I suspect that is simply some well-intended overkill. Based on our experiences in all these different resorts, I have to conclude that this thread is essentiallly a good example of making a mountain out of a anthill. For a given man, odds are the problem won't come up. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
T&K
Thanks for bringing us back to earth on this. I agree absolutely with what you say and in my experience too I have only ever seen two erections at nudist venues: one the guy was asleep and the other a girl and guy on the shoreline were playfully kissing each other (i.e. not overt sexual behaviour) when the guy realized he was getting erect. He splashed some cold water on himself and then dived into the sea. It was an amusing incident to both of them and to anyone who witnessed it. It was certainly not threatening, offensive or even embarrasing.
But experienced nudists should not forget that the fear of getting an erection is the number one inhibitor as far as potential male nudists are concerned and we should not simply sweep aside their concerns by telling them not to worry.
Born to be Nude
04-01-2002, 06:45 PM
I've tried to carefully read the views from both the male and female perspective on errections. It seems to all boil down to erections being a natural occurance to a point. The reason behind the occurance and what to do about them, seem to be the big issue here. Questions: To both males and females. Are womens "erect" nipples considered a form of female arousal?
Do people find this offensive? If so why are we as a, "most likely majority opinion", NOT offended by this site and why do women, as a, "most likely majority", not seem to be overly embarassed or concerned by this natural occurance. Do we as humans just naturally pick on the males natural occurance as being offensive but at the same time overlook and accept the womens natural occurance? BTBN
Troy Young
04-01-2002, 07:18 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Born to be Nude:
I've tried to carefully read the views from both the male and female perspective on errections. It seems to all boil down to erections being a natural occurance to a point. The reason behind the occurance and what to do about them, seem to be the big issue here. Questions: To both males and females. Are womens "erect" nipples considered a form of female arousal?
Do people find this offensive? If so why <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
You bring up a good point BTBN. This is something I have often pondered myself. I've never understood why the whole male erection question has always been the number one topic of most males who are new to naturism and why so many people are so offended by the arousal of members of one sex but not of the other.
People are funny creatures. I guess I'll never fully understand them. *shrug*
nudeM
04-01-2002, 08:50 PM
Troy Young, I agree with you about this male and female thing. I think, as a society is concerned, it is okay to view the female form in the nude state. It is considered obscene to view the nude male, especially when the genitlia is exposed, and god forbid, if the male has an erection, whereas, it's okay to view erect nipples on females. Maybe, it's because the nipples are less noticeable and doesn't "stand up" like the penis.
There are different size nipples in the erect state, but not like the penis, which as we know, comes in many different sizes.
It's just one of those things that still has to be hammered out. Personally, I really don't care what state the individual is in when at a beach. I worry more about myself, and the state of my penis when at a beach. But I've come to realize, that this is okay, as long as I don't flaunt it around and show it off.
Thanks
dont worry be happy
04-01-2002, 11:37 PM
The problem is with sex.
Our society as a whole is sexually and sensually starved. It is starved by a slew of taboos perpetuated by puritan education, be it at home, in school, at work, or through the media.
It is that which one lacks, that he becomes obsessed about. As a society, we are obsessed with sex. For the individual man or woman, this obsession is almost always unconscious, and thus even stronger. And it's quite easy to see how the advertizing industry exploits that obsession daily.
Being free, is also to break out from that social mold which was imposed upon us by our upbringing.
As nudists, most of us have begun that lengthy process already. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif Some suggestions for particular concerns expressed here before: /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
If ever you get "drips" /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif
- Don't be embarrassed
Feel casual (embarassement attracts attention), and simply get rid of it. You can do this as inconspicuously as scratching yourself.
If you have no other means at hand, just wipe it onto your thigh. (hey, after all, the stuff isn't dirty or anything. It's a water-based lubricant similar to "KY jelly", which after evaporation leaves practically no trace.)
To avoid being sexually aroused by nudity /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif
- De-couple nudity from sex
This can be done in many ways. One quick and effective method is viewing the pictures shown on this site. View them over and over, but never ever use them for sexual stimulation - that would beat their purpose.
In the textiles world, when you encounter someone, you quickly scan the person's entire body (clothes) and then concentrate on the face, because that's where you communicate and where most emotions are expressed. For nudists, it's the same.
This does not mean not to look at the rest. On the contrary, admire the beauty of the "one-button suit" - every part of it, but eventually, you will find that the most interesting part is indeed the face. By then, you will have succeeded in de-coupling nudity from sex.
To further minimize your chances of unwanted arousal /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif
- Make sure you're sexually satisfied
This can mean short-term and/or long-term satisfaction. Whatever your situation, you can acheive this by any or as many means you personally find suitable. The objective is simply to no longer be "obsessed with sex".
bareballd1
04-02-2002, 04:01 AM
With so much enlightened discussion on this topic, it seems odd that no one, including the self appointed moralists in this forum, have answered the fundamental question of why a male erection is so objectionable? Isn't it a "natural state wheher sexually induced or not? Aren't nudists supposed to be open/accepting of the human body? Female nipples become erect regularly and they are not told to "cover them up". Why the contradiction when it comes to the male anatomy?
GalSurfer
04-02-2002, 04:49 AM
Strange, isn't it how you feel that women's nipples are an issue. We've been fighting for the right to be topless for years. Are you guys threatened by topless women, or what? Nipples, erect nipples.... big deal. Your nipples also become erect for the same reason. Should you be required to cover them up too? There is a big difference between erect nipples and an erection in case you haven't noticed. I don't think you'll see anyone complain if your nipples are erect. See if we have to cover ours up, you should too. And the nudity issue is in the toilet. I don't think that's what you want.
GalSurfer
04-02-2002, 04:54 AM
Forgot one thing. One of you brilliant minds out there tell me how erect nipples has any possible correlation to an erect penis. Since we both have nipples and we both get erections, it doesn't seem to be particularly pertinent.
My husband tells me the only time he notices erect nipples is when they're wearing a t-shirt and no bra. When you're totally nude, you just don't notice it.
So -- you male geniuses -- tell me now, what is the correlation???
My problem is probably the same with most nudist. When I am home alone I have no problem with not getting erections, But when I see females nude, even when I am not thinking sexually, it is sometimes hard to control erections. I have to consentrate on a conversation with them, totaly off the subject of nudity. I have gone over many times the pictures of freedom, and it dose help to keep seening nude females, but then again I am not with them, it's only pictures. I can get erections easy, it is more the excitement of another nude person more than sex itself. I need more practice of being alone with other nude females to help control. I find that the first time I see a female nude /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif I have the biggest problem. And the more I see them the easier it is to be around them without getting an erection. After all erctions are a natural part of the male body. God created this in men. Just as hard nipples or getting wet for women. I can't understand why people think the worst of a man if he has an erection. They think he only has sex on his mind, and that isn't always true. If people think that I would say they are the ones with sex on the their minds. Erections should be excepted not ridiculed. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Maybe I just to new at the nudist game. stay nude stay happy /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Bob S.
04-02-2002, 06:29 AM
papa,
I have never seen any males at the nudist park I attend have erections. And I have never had an erection at a nudist park. So when you state that "most nudist[s]" probably have this problem, I would tend to disagree whole-heartedly.
From your short description in the previous post, my guess is that you are simply trying too hard to stay flaccid. Kind of the opposite of performance anxiety. Upon seeing a naked woman, you immediately begin to think about not wanting an erection. This seems to be working against you.
You need to calm down and stop trying so hard to stay limp.
Bob S.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by GalSurfer:
Forgot one thing. One of you brilliant minds out there tell me how erect nipples has any possible correlation to an erect penis. Since we both have nipples and we both get erections, it doesn't seem to be particularly pertinent....So -- you male geniuses -- tell me now, what is the correlation??? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Well here goes: a male gets an erect penis when sexually aroused; a woman gets erect nipples when sexually aroused.
Am I a genius or what? /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Mountainman:
...It amazes me that women are never mentioned at all... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Are you sure you're reading the same forums as the rest of us?
/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif
Papa,
BobS is absolutely right, If you let go of your fear - which is created to some extent by the shock, horror, cover-it-up-or-else brigade - you'll find the problem will subside.
nudeM
04-02-2002, 03:26 PM
Galsurfer, you are right. We both get erections, it's only the males who get two of them. As you know, only one is acceptable when in public. Just like the females, our nipples get erect just like the females, be it either sexually aroused, or be it too cold outside. I really didn't think erect nipples would be a topic, but I think you have a valid comment.
It's okay for the male to wander around without a shirt, exposing his nipples for the public to see, with or without erect nipples. But it is considered obscene for the female to wander around topless, even when she is not aroused.
Hopefully, things will turn around where the topless female will be an everyday occurance, just like her male counterparts.
Just my two-cents worth, and hope I tried to answer any concerns you may have had.
Thanks
Trailscout
04-02-2002, 06:32 PM
bareballd1,
You ask, "...why a male erection is so objectionable? Isn't it a "natural state wheher sexually induced or not? Aren't nudists supposed to be open/accepting of the human body?"
The reason men don't walk around with erections all day at nudist camps is that natural or not, it sends a strong message of sexual dominance to females, children and males of lower social status.
Humans are social animals. Social animals use body posture to indicate social ranking and to reinforce their status.
We don't have tails to wag, to hold high or tuck between our hind legs, our ears can't flatten against our heads. The only primeval body message human males can use to communicate social and sexual dominance is to parade deliberately in front of his tribe with an erection.
Women do not communicate dominance with erect nipples, merely sexual excitement.
The point is, females are physically incapable of exerting dominance over adult males. An erect nipple poses no threat. A erect penis, by contrast can be used as a weapon both physically and psychologically.
Men sometimes have erections unintentionally. That is not the issue. The issue is what you do when you have one.
Men who do not control their erections are being very antisocial in what should be a peaceful egalitarian society.
We can't ignore the fact that many of the people who are in our midst at a naturist resort are often still carrying emotional baggage and even scars from the violent textile culture outside the fences. All the more reason to consider how our behavior impacts those around us.
Our naturist culture is what we make of it. If we want swinging, social chaos, and sexual dominance we can have it.
If we want a nurturing society that promotes family life, where everyone is treated as equals, that can be our life.
Mountainman,
We are talking here about nudists and their concern for unwanted erections. If they wear a g-string they are not nudists therefore the issue is completely different.
You say "Women DO IN FACT have an erection of the clitoris as well and men do get an erection of the nipples when aroused. Big ******* deal".
Well, much as I agree with your final sentence there doesn't seem to be any rational reason for introducing clitorides to the argument. Galsurfer asked what was the correlation between erect penises and erect nipples (not clitorides) - I was simply giving her the information she needed.
It would be really helpful if you would read contributions more carefully before wading in with irrelevant comments - it would save us all a lot of time. /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
bareballd1
04-02-2002, 08:23 PM
It seems that a few missed my point entirely. The correlation between female nipples an the male penis is that they are both examples of body parts not always controled by conscious thought. while I agree that in some contexts a male with an erection could be viewed as a sign of male dominance, I was not referring to "parading in front of the tribe with an erection". I would hardly consider a sleeping male with an erection a threat to anyone. Yet some would, apparently, consider this to be "antisocial" behavior. again, this seems to contradict the nudist credo of body acceptance. If you're going to accept short, tall, fat, thin, scarred, etc, why not erect?
one2345654321
12-11-2002, 01:46 PM
what happens when men get erections?
I was just walking on a nude beach and a nude lady was walking 20 feet away in my direction it was my first time nude so i get stimulated. I had a big obvious erection, and as I walked by the lady she gave me a real dirty look. WHAT DO U DO WHEN U GET ONE?
steevo
12-11-2002, 02:09 PM
This is what I, would do if I, were in that type of situation. You should have a towel with you most of the time, when you first get involved in social nudity. For that very reason. Hopfully in time it won't be as much of a problem. This is something you will have to learn for yourself, but as you see the way you handled it last time didn't serve you too well.
But if it cotinues, I don't think you will find having a towel with you is much bother. For Me, I find it convenient to have one around. You necer know when you may want to sit down. or what ever!
Hope this has been helpful to you and Welcome to the site.
Steevo
wannabenaked2001
12-11-2002, 03:08 PM
You are on a beach, go into the water.
FireProf
12-11-2002, 10:09 PM
You can feel it coming on, go in the water or
take a seat on the sand and wait for it to pass.
The one thing you don't want to do is wave it around. It some times annoys both men and women.
Yes it is a natural reaction, yati, yata...but we have discussed this numerous times and the concenscious is...be discreet, sit down, go in the water, cover up...whatever so you do your best not to draw attention to it.
Good luck...keep going to those nude places so you get used to nude people in public. /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif
Krepta3000
12-23-2002, 03:30 PM
I'm new, so, I can't say what you should do, but I think these replies don't sound very nudist/naturist. I thought being nude meant being free to be who and what you are. I think as long as you aren't being Lewd, it shouldn't matter whether you have an errection or not.
And this opinion is shared by others who aren't new at all to the nudist/naturist lifestyle. So, whatever.
If some lady gives me the Evil Eye for having an errection, I'll give her one back. How rude to be so angry at a natural, and totaly uncontrolled response to stimuli. Really.
greensunshine
12-23-2002, 04:27 PM
To All Who Seem to Have a Problem In the Beginning,
The best thing to do if you don't want someone to embarras you in public /infopop/emoticons/icon_redface.gif , is take an extra towel with you...one of big enought to cover up with and do something that is not offense to others around you...that is the last thing you want to do in public, especially around a female who may have a can of mace or pepper spray to cool it off in a very uncomfortable way /infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif
The other solution, is to go take a cold shower or cool off somewhere...and note, females aren't the only ones who take offense at some clown with a woody doing the thinking for him, a lot of guys do to, unless your purpose is to advertise that you are looking for something most would rather not admit to in public...
Swingers clubs are another story, their rules are totally different and thus what you do out in the open at these places is generally up to what they consider exceptable including topics that are not mentionable in this BB.
My very strong advise to any guy who thinks that having a woody out in the open at a public beach, is he strongly needs to rethink what he thinks is appropiate for a public environment /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif
My other advise is to read and listen to some of the advise given in the topic titled: Using Good Judgement in the Sun...my main purpose was to give pointers on what not only I considered exceptable, but what others considered exceptable regarding things females/males find offensive to others /infopop/emoticons/icon_redface.gif
Also if you go back in the archives of this BB, you will also find others who too have some really good advise on what they have found to work when a problem arrises such as the one you speak of in a partially excepting and embarrasing way, by all means is this a problem restricted to only a few guys...many have shared their problems and how they have over come such in a healthy way so as to make others feel comfortable in their surroundings on the beach or wherever they go to enjoy the sun /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Greensunshine /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
PS
Being nude does not equate being crude and sporting woodies out in public where others can wittness such behavior is considered lude and crude /infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif manner /infopop/emoticons/icon_redface.gif
Krepta3000
12-25-2002, 01:14 AM
Well, I'm just appalled by this opinion that so many people share. Really. I just don't understand it. Why would an errection be offensive, I just don't understand. How can a simple errection be concidered rude, crude, or lude? This whole thing might turn me off to public nudity before it can even start. Man, this is really upsetting me a lot. I think I'll just stay off this topic from now on. Jeeze.
The human male experiences an average number of uncontrolled errections, I don't remember the number, per day. They can be caused by many things that have nothing to do with sexual attraction or sexual desire or sexual activity of any kind. One thing that causes it in ME is the need to urinate, rather badly. So, if for some reason I find myself needing to use the rest room, and someone, male or female, becomes offended by my errection, I might very well get into a yelling match over it. I mean, really. Just because my penis happens to be errect does NOT mean I'm behaving inappropriately. It doesn't mean I'm masturbating in public, it doesn't mean I'm grabbing myself and wiggling it around at people, it just means my penis happens to be blood engorged, for any number of reasons.
And any Offense that anyone else feels over it is totaly THEIR problem, not mine. Hide myself, indeed. How could I be a nudist with the need to hide myself?! Come on, people. Is logic not part of the thought process at all in this group? Is emotional or physical response banned entirely in all males of the human species?!
I agree that there are certain behaviors that are just rude and inappropriate and should not be done in any kind of clean, family oriented, environment, but THIS is just too much!! Really.
Ok, thats all I'm gonna say on this topic for a long long time, I'm getting way too upset.
Alex Contino
12-25-2002, 02:33 AM
I too am appalled at the replies that suggested that the man with an erection should cover it with a towel. If the lady who was looking at him and threw a dirty look was offended, she coule have simply turned her head instead of still looking at it. If she had just looked at his face, instead of his penis, she might have not noticed it was erect. Some of you need to grow up. Men get erections and they are very normal. It is as silly for a man to be offended if a woman's nipples get hard on a nude beach.
nudeM
12-25-2002, 06:36 AM
Just my two-cents worth of information. Last year, I went to Pirate's Cove at Avila Beach, and I noticed an individual who was exercising with an obvious erection. He was exercising and talking to two other individuals at the same time. Did his erection bother me? Of course not. Was he going around flaunting it? Of course not. His erection, I believe, was being caused by his exercising motions. He did not walk around with it, rather just stayed in one spot and continued to exercise.
To me, this exercise-induced erection is totally acceptable. When he was finished, he continued to converse with his friends, and his erection did subside. He did not walk around flaunting it. He just did his exercises and stayed in one spot of the beach.
Just an observation I noticed that I thought I would share. Erections do occur, only not as much as some people might think. I have seen erections at volleyball games as well, and the individuals' involved did not consider it obscene. It is something that could, and has happened to some of us at one time or another. It's just the situation that causes it to happen, that needs to be addressed.
To me, if an individual has an erection and is just walking around and displaying one, then that individual should be considerate enough to have a seat, or go into the water until it subsides. But if individual has one, and is involved in any type of sport, then I believe those are acceptable, and people need to realize this.
Thanks.
l2bnude
12-25-2002, 08:20 AM
Hi all. I have read some of the comments about a male walking around nude with an erection. Yes, this is a natural thing and most,if any, have no control over it. Should anyone be offended by it? No, you should not, unless it is flaunted around. That being said though, I do not feel that it is proper to walk around with one. The main reason is that a male with an erection brings on thought of one wanting or looking for sex, and that is the last thing that you want to have others at a nude beach or resort thinking. Most areas allow chrildren and I dont think that, that is proper to be showen infrount of them. We are having enough trouble now finding legal places to go nude as it is and the last thing we need to do is to give thoes who wish to stop public nudity something else to complain about or use to stop us.If you are in a privete area and are with others who dont mind then thats OK. But remember that most dont want to see an erection walking down the beach towards them or the kids. So, though it's natural, take a towel or a hat to cover up with untill you pass, or it goes away. This should prevent a lot of problems and stop a lot of the dirty looks, even though it will still be obvouis. And if it doesn't bother thoes around you, then they will most likely let you know and you can remove the hat or towel. This is just my thoughts on the never ending question of gettint an erection while nude in public. Hope it helps.
splitfeather
12-25-2002, 05:51 PM
Yes, I'm male and agree with Greensunshine. /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif She made a darn good point. There is somethings that are natural and an erection is one of them for a male. But sporting a woody and not doing anything to be discreet about it is total imaturity and shows a lack of social graces.
Now,I don't want to be gross but want to make a point.
A womens period is natural and normal as it can get. But you don't see women during thier time wearing feminine pads just prove they are"women" and what is going on is"natural"
So get a grip guy's. A mature man shows courtesy and responsbility. If your 21 and still trying to prove your "manhood", change your age to nine years old because you sure act like it both in action (I got a woody!,I got woody!see me,see me!)and words.
Just my opion.
Keep up the good work Sunshine and keep the faith.There are mature men out there.Some even starting at nine years old.
A male in rainy Oregon
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by l2bnude:
Hi all. I have read some of the comments about a male walking around nude with an erection. Yes, this is a natural thing and most,if any, have no control over it. Should anyone be offended by it? No, you should not, unless it is flaunted around. That being said though, I do not feel that it is proper to walk around with one. The main reason is that a male with an erection brings on thought of one wanting or looking for sex, and that is the last thing that you want to have others at a nude beach or resort thinking. Most areas allow chrildren and I dont think that, that is proper to be showen infrount of them. We are having enough trouble now finding legal places to go nude as it is and the last thing we need to do is to give thoes who wish to stop public nudity something else to complain about or use to stop us.If you are in a privete area and are with others who dont mind then thats OK. But remember that most dont want to see an erection walking down the beach towards them or the kids. So, though it's natural, take a towel or a hat to cover up with untill you pass, or it goes away. This should prevent a lot of problems and stop a lot of the dirty looks, even though it will still be obvouis. And if it doesn't bother thoes around you, then they will most likely let you know and you can remove the hat or towel. This is just my thoughts on the never ending question of gettint an erection while nude in public. Hope it helps. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I agree with your comments. Please discuss the three levels of erection. At what point does it become too much.
Bob S.
12-25-2002, 07:07 PM
Let's just call it manners. There are manners in the general society and manners in the nudist world. Manners are the unwritten rules that "civilized" people usually follow (anyone who wants to supplant "civilized" with some other word they think works better may do so with my thanks).
Somewhere, we should have a list of nudist manners. And one of these would be that men just do not go walking around with erections if they can help it. Instead, they should discreetely hide it from view or, when possible, splash into some water to cause it to subside.
On the flip side, others should not take such offense to an innocuous erection. They should gauge the total behaviour of the male in question before deciding what is meant by his erection.
OK, off my Emily Post stand.
Bob S.
greensunshine
12-26-2002, 02:35 AM
Hey Guys,
For all of those who have no problem with another guy sporting a woody wherever...I want you to exchange that picture for the following one:
On the beach, you see a great looking gal /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif , but when you look down where all of us have a habit of looking, you see a string or a pad hanging down between her legs (as Splitfeather pointed in his posting)...now envision having an pleasant conversation with her in the nude /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif
To a lot of us, including us females find this just as gross, crude, and disgusting as looking at one of you guys sporting a woody whether it is on the beach or wherever...neither have a valid place out in the open. Maybe I am being critical or confused /infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif , but some body functions and actions belong elsewhere...
Greensunshine /infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif with why one should behavior be exceptable and knowing the other is NOT exceptable...
TXK NUDE
12-26-2002, 04:02 AM
What is natural?
Hemlock is natural--but I wouldn't drink it.
Erections are natural--but I wouldn't sport one in public.
Defecating is natural--but I wouldn't squat in the middle of the dance floor.
Urinating is natural--but I wouldn't try it in the pool.
Just because something is natural doesn't mean that it is good for you, or good for others. A part of being nudists is being conscious of what others, especially other nudists, consider etiquette and appropriate.
bertirolioliolo potatolioliololiolo
12-26-2002, 05:57 AM
Is there a hard and fast rule for any of this ?
Of course DRINKING hemlock isn't 'natural' .
It will kill you.
Of course defacating in close proximity to living space isn't a good idea -not because of the asthetics -because of the disease risk.
Perhaps men likely to get erections should be banished to the jungle so as not to "offend" the rest of the "tribe " ? Otherwise they might DO something withit !!!!
Equally, the "unclean " woman should not leave the huts until "clean". Then we won't all be CURSED !!!
There are societies where a woman showing ANY part of her body is against the LAW. . and what we all do and discuss on this forum is viewed as very, very wrong.
But it doesn't make us right or them wrong or vice versa.
Personally I think any negative reaction to a womans period is regressive ! The U.K. [at least ] advertises Tampons on T.V. - are we then to deny the function itself ? And by giving these and other functions a "right" or "wrong" value, also gives the moralists ammunition and the fascists fuel to start telling us what is and isn't acceptable.
Remember always that the moral majority, in their hearts, disapprove of what we do just by being nude.
Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone.
splitfeather
12-26-2002, 10:05 AM
Again ditto to G.sunshine and Texnude.
Yes,erections are normal as is womens monthly.Social craces should be applied in nudist enviroment just as it would be in a textiled enviroment.
An erection is not gross, nor is a women having a period gross. It's a normal and healthy thing. The normal reaction to them in a nudist enviroment should be the same as when clothed. Just be discreet till it passes and then get on with it.
Respect and consideration in these and any other social situations can move a good cause a long way.
Rainy Oregon /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
desertdude
12-26-2002, 01:11 PM
To those that are not sure what is appropriate behavior at a nudist resort the management has been thoughtful enough to write it down and post it in a prominent place for all to read and follow, to all those that don't know what is polite social behavior at a nude beach perhaps they should go to a nudist resort where the rules are clearly written down so even those lacking common sense can't be considered rude. /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif
l2bnude
12-26-2002, 01:30 PM
Hello again. I see that the topic of erection is still going on. And it will forever /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif . I just wanted to say that, like some others said, the erection itself is not gross, unnatural, rude, threaten, (though some would argue with that), nor is it something to be ashamed of. But it is not what most people at a nudist area want to see. Again, depending on what has caused it and what is being done about it, determines how others will react. It has been said that in the early olimpics, back when they were nude, that a lot of the athletes would get erections, and that most would cover up. Not that they were ashamed, but that it was more appropriate at the time. Physical activities can cause an erection, especially if you are nude, but it soon goes away. The site of the opposite sex too can cause one. The way you handle the situation is how others are going to remember and react to you. Actually, if a man has an erection around a group, and he covers up, a lot of the time it will be a start of a conversation that sometimes would never have started. And most of the time it will be a light hearted and funny conversation that could lead to new friends and fun times with those that we just met. Again, this is just how I feel and what I do if and when I happen. Thanks l2bnude
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by l2bnude:
Hello again. I see that the topic of erection is still going on. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Yeah, it comes up from time to time but most of us just cover it with a towel until it goes away. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Rik
Denmark
12-30-2002, 03:44 PM
I'm very curious about naturism and I'm very intrested in getting active, going on CO vacations etc.
But one things concerns me. What to do when...well, you know, it gets hard? It's not that I want it to, but sometimes we guys can't control these things. What to do? Will preople get offended, angry, or will I perhaps get laughed at? Or is this common and no one takes much notice? /infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif
Your help and advise is much appreciated!
Denmark
12-30-2002, 03:44 PM
I'm very curious about naturism and I'm very intrested in getting active, going on CO vacations etc.
But one things concerns me. What to do when...well, you know, it gets hard? It's not that I want it to, but sometimes we guys can't control these things. What to do? Will preople get offended, angry, or will I perhaps get laughed at? Or is this common and no one takes much notice? /infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif
Your help and advise is much appreciated!
NudeCJ
12-30-2002, 07:18 PM
<font face="arial, helvetica" color="black" size="-1">Well, it's not really approperate to show off an erection
at any nudist beach or resort.
The best thing you can do,
if you happen to get one,
is to cover up with your towel.
No one will make any big deal about it,
and if they know you're new to nudism,
they'll understand.
HRA2001
01-03-2003, 05:02 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Denmark:
I'm very curious about naturism and I'm very intrested in getting active, going on CO vacations etc.
But one things concerns me. What to do when...well, you know, it gets hard? It's not that I want it to, but sometimes we guys can't control these things. What to do? Will preople get offended, angry, or will I perhaps get laughed at? Or is this common and no one takes much notice? /infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif
Your help and advise is much appreciated! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
HRA2001
01-03-2003, 05:06 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Denmark:
I'm very curious about naturism and I'm very intrested in getting active, going on CO vacations etc.
But one things concerns me. What to do when...well, you know, it gets hard? It's not that I want it to, but sometimes we guys can't control these things. What to do? Will preople get offended, angry, or will I perhaps get laughed at? Or is this common and no one takes much notice? /infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif
Your help and advise is much appreciated! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I'm a fairly new nudist as well, and was very concerned about the same isue. I really wanted to enjoy the experience of public nudity, but did not want to walk around with an erection. Well, sure enough, n my first nudist experience I got the ole woody. I was given the same advice you ahev already read. Discreetly disguise the old boy and nobody will be offended. It'll go away n a minute or so, and soon thereafter you'll not have to worry about t again!
TXK NUDE
01-03-2003, 05:07 PM
Here on this forum you will find this topic discussed at length. Feel free to read through the rest of the posts and forums to find out what is appropriate and inappropriate behavior at clothing optional venues. As a general rule, erections are not appropriate, but if dealt with discretely, it won't be a problem, and will eventually not happen again. Welcome to nudism!
HRA2001
01-03-2003, 05:17 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by one2345654321:
what happens when men get erections?
I was just walking on a nude beach and a nude lady was walking 20 feet away in my direction it was my first time nude so i get stimulated. I had a big obvious erection, and as I walked by the lady she gave me a real dirty look. WHAT DO U DO WHEN U GET ONE? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>This is really an issue of knowing one's environment. Certain nudist settings call for dealing with an erection discreetly, such as most nudist beaches. That really is the right thing to do. Other locations, such as one location I have visited in CA really had no social policy. In fact, I asked one woman there (I was a new nudist at the time, but had overcome the erection problem) and she said, "Fine to have one here. We actually admire them." In that setting I would not have been bothered at all to walk around "standing tall." In fact, it might have been liberating!
Angel
01-03-2003, 08:48 PM
Warning: Controversial opinion to follow!
Nudists as a group preach "body acceptance". Supposedly, nudism is actually beneficial to children because it teaches them that the body is normal and natural.
Yet normal and natural bodily functions are not acceptable.
Men get erections. Whenever. Wherever. For no reason. For many reasons. It's normal. It's natural. But in this thread, someone brought out the typical textile arguement that "it's not something we want the children to see". Erm, why not? Should children be taught now that involuntary bodily reactions are shameful? That's what you're saying, in essence.
So someone else compares erection to menstruation ... now our female children should be taught that a completely involuntary act by their bodies is shameful? I absolutely could not believe that someone had the audacity to say it would be "impossible" to talk to a woman wearing a tampon ... get real, why are you even looking there??? Periods tend to start without much warning, and a woman may get up off her towel at a nudist resort only to find a large, obvious bloodstain. From what you're suggesting, she should not only hide the "evidence", but leave the scene immediately and not return until she's "presentable" again ... meaning *not menstruating*.
I liked the anecdote about the man who was talking and exercising, got an erection, continued talking and exercising, and treated it like the completely normal and natural thing it is.
In my absolutely-not-at-all-humble opinion, if you're at a nudist facility to scope out the bodies/genitalia of others there, you're in the wrong place. Find an exhibitionist facility.
If I'm fully dressed, and a person speaking to me addresses their comments and their gaze to my breasts, I'm offended. Hey, you're supposed to be talking to *me*, not my boobs! If I'm at a nudist resort, completely UNdressed, and you're addressing your comments and your gaze to my breasts, I'm still going to be offended. If it's a bit chilly and my nipples are erect, you should not even notice!
Personally, when I talk to someone, I look at their eyes. I listen to their words. I am not checking out the state of their erectile tissue. But maybe that's just me.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Angel:
Warning: Controversial opinion to follow!
Nudists as a group preach "body acceptance". Supposedly, nudism is actually beneficial to children because it teaches them that the body is normal and natural.
Yet normal and natural bodily functions are not acceptable.
Men get erections. Whenever. Wherever. For no reason. For many reasons. It's normal. It's natural. But in this thread, someone brought out the typical textile arguement that "it's not something we want the children to see". Erm, why not? Should children be taught now that involuntary bodily reactions are shameful? That's what you're saying, in essence.
So someone else compares erection to menstruation ... now our female children should be taught that a completely involuntary act by their bodies is shameful? I absolutely could not believe that someone had the audacity to say it would be "impossible" to talk to a woman wearing a tampon ... get real, why are you even looking there??? Periods tend to start without much warning, and a woman may get up off her towel at a nudist resort only to find a large, obvious bloodstain. From what you're suggesting, she should not only hide the "evidence", but leave the scene immediately and not return until she's "presentable" again ... meaning *not menstruating*.
I liked the anecdote about the man who was talking and exercising, got an erection, continued talking and exercising, and treated it like the completely normal and natural thing it is.
In my absolutely-not-at-all-humble opinion, if you're at a nudist facility to scope out the bodies/genitalia of others there, you're in the wrong place. Find an exhibitionist facility. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I am in complete agreement with you up till this point. Below contradicts what you just posted above.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
If I'm fully dressed, and a person speaking to me addresses their comments and their gaze to my breasts, I'm offended. Hey, you're supposed to be talking to *me*, not my boobs! If I'm at a nudist resort, completely UNdressed, and you're addressing your comments and your gaze to my breasts, I'm still going to be offended. If it's a bit chilly and my nipples are erect, you should not even notice!
Personally, when I talk to someone, I look at their eyes. I listen to their words. I am not checking out the state of their erectile tissue. But maybe that's just me. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Gazing is fine, I do it all the time. Gawking and drooling are not. I am a people watcher. We are nude, our bodies are not shameful, we should not be fixated on looking only in the eyes. That is something only the pizza deliveryboy does while delivering inside the resort. We laugh at them for it. I love looking at people, at the differences, at a cute pair of buns too. I really do check out what a guy has too, and you are not being real if you think the guys don't check you out too. It is a human action.
That is why I wear dark glasses..... /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif
because I just might be staring at your erect nipples.
Alex Contino
01-04-2003, 12:08 AM
I think we all forgot what the original question was from the man with an erection. It was his first time at a nude beach when he got aroused by a pretty woman approaching him. She should have taken it as a compliment. He did not say he was waving it around. I think he may have been embarassed by his erection, but it is normal for a man to get an erection if he sees someone attractive. He only asked for advice, not all your moral judgements. It is a good thing he did not ejaculate or who knows what other responsed there might have been. And, yes, it is possible to ejaculate without even touching yourself and it could be uncontrollable. The offended person could have just looked away if she were offended. Alex
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Alex Contino:
I think we all forgot what the original question was from the man with an erection. It was his first time at a nude beach when he got aroused by a pretty woman approaching him. She should have taken it as a compliment. He did not say he was waving it around. I think he may have been embarassed by his erection, but it is normal for a man to get an erection if he sees someone attractive. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Err no! He never said she was pretty, he never said he found her attrative. And why do you suppose she should feel complimented? Perhaps she assumed that he only saw her as a sex object: very flattering!
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>He only asked for advice, not all your moral judgements. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>But it's OK for you to make moral judgements such as "She should have taken it as a compliment"; "..who knows what other responses there might have been."; "The offended person could have just looked away ". And I don't see any advice to him from you.
Rik
theoldman
01-06-2003, 07:26 PM
The erection discussion is interesting. My 70+ years of being naked as much as possible has had me with erections a lot of times, especially when I was younger. They're few & far between now, but back to the subject. I -we (my family)- are home nudists. We don't go to public places very much where nudity is practiced. Oh we've been to nude beaches a few times and never had problems. I think it depends on the circumstances whether an erection should be hidden.
My feeling of not caring whether I was sporting an erection or not came about when I was nearly 13. I was well into puberty and was feeling awkward about it and so my being naked around oithers had almost stopped. I still slept naked and was naked when alone however. Well that summer about 2 days after school let out for vacation I was climbing a tree in the backyard and fell out of it. The result was a broken right elbow and a broken right forearm as well as a broken left wrist. After the casts were put on I was pretty helpless. If someone cut my food up I could eat it (with dificulty) with my left hand as the fingers were not casted. Managing clothes was something else. All i tried to wear was a pair of shorts (no underwear) and whenever I needed to use the toilet or get undressed I had to ask my mother to undo my pants. I'd hold them up as best I could because, as I said, I was embarrassed about being into puberty (and the many erections that went with it). After about 3 or 4 days my mother said she thought I should just not wear anything. I objected and she reminded me that when I was 5 & 6 I spent the whole summer naked most of the time and up until recently would be naked around the family. I didn't have much of an answer so she said that this was the last time she'd undo my pants. Result was I was again naked around others. All was OK for a little while until I got a really intense erection while sitting at the table. It would have been OK if I hadn't had to get up, but I did and that was when my mother asked if that was why I was being reluctant about being naked around the rest of the famikly. I said it was and she and my father both told me that erections were normal, healthy things that should never be a cause of shame or embarrassment unless you did things with them. They explained about flaunting etc. & I got the message.Since then I've always felt that an erection is nothing to be ashamed of and that idea has been passed down to my son and grandsons.
Now I'm talking about being at home, but I really think the same thing would apply at public places.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Nude in the North:
But I tire of seeing guys constantly walking the beach with a boner as much as the women do.
Case in point...
On my last trip to Haulover a man walked along the shore with a semi woody. I paid little attention to him or it. Not 5 minutes later he was walking through the sunbathers weaving a path appearing to find his way through the crowd. Still sporting wood. I paid little mind to him .
Perhaps another 10 minutes went by and here he comes again. Now he's at full mast. I watch him as he approaches. He is looking ahead trying to find the best rout to take him closest to as many women as he can. I can see him change direction when he spots a woman that might be in position to see his erection.
He comes in the direction of my wife and I. She isn't looking his way so he veers off toward someone else. Or perhaps it was the Look I gave him when he made eye contact with me that caused him to veer. None the less He soon stopped his parade. I have a feeling that I wasn't the only one on the beach that was tired of him.
Sure it's natural to get a woody now and then. But to make no effort to conceal it while walking around is bound to get a negative response from most people.
Steve <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>If you are tired of it then do something about it instead of just griping. Haulover has the best protection against this kind of thing than probably any beach. You could have told the Beach Embassadors, the lifeguards, the cops. All are there on the beach. Why didn't you???
Snoboy
01-28-2003, 03:02 PM
Cyndiann - Perhaps your intentions were good when you questioned the other persons experience on the beach, but you were not very courteous about it. Not everyone want's to be the "nudie police". Good or bad, most people prefer to avoid confrontations of that kind. If it had been possible to do so, and he knew who to speak with, he most likely would have said something. Let's not get all high and mighty here in the Forum. We all want people to behave and it is better to lead by example than force it down peoples throats. /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif
Bob S.
01-28-2003, 06:57 PM
Snoboy and Steve, why are you two so put off by cyndiann's simple question? I think she asked a viable question and I would love to hear Steve's reason for not contacting anyone. Did he feel that his "look" was a good enough deterrent? Did you feel that he wasn't threatening enough? Did you figure someone else might turn him in?
Yes, he did stop his parading, but this guy may come back. If you go back to Haulover, would you want to see him again? If not, then why didn't you do anything?
Bob S.
It is a real simple question Steve.... Haulover has more people around to help out with problems than probably any beach in the country. I'm real blunt when I post so get used to it. I think you are reading things into it that aren't there.
Why didn't you take the situation to those in charge? That is what is nice about Haulover, you don't have to be the "nudie police" because there are people who can take care of things like that.
I've been on much more isolated beaches like Playalinda where I've had to take matters into my own hands when people get sexual. I've approached people and made them stop all on my own. If you allow things like that to go on it makes you responsible, almost as much so as the offender. We have few enough nude places as it is and I don't want to lose more.
Snoboy
01-28-2003, 09:09 PM
Cyndiann and Bob S. - I agree with you that misconduct must be handled for the safety and well-being of everyone. Please don't take what I said to mean that I condone bad behavior because I am sickened when I see inappropriate or overt sexual behavior. At Black's Beach, a few years ago, I walked up on a man who was openly masturbating (I think it was directed at me) and I ran the pervert off. Sometimes, the situation calls for less overt means, and often (especially if you are not a regular at a place)you don't always know who to go to, to report such garbage. My experience at Black's was on a long isolated area of the beach and there was no one but my friend and I so we yelled at the wanker and he took off up the beach and we never saw him again. Some people just can't stand confrontations. I applaud Cyndiann for having the courage to kick butt. Sorry if I gave you the wrong impression. I guess I misunderstood what was said. You folks contribute great things to the Forum. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Good for you Snoboy!
To me it would be like walking down the street and watching someone snatch a purse and not doing anything about it. I'd at least call 911 and make sure the lady was ok.
You are right though, most people involved in sexual activities on our nude beaches don't have much courage and will run off if confronted. I've used cameras too, threatening to post their pics on the Internet.
Let's face it, we are losing nude beaches at an alarming rate and if we keep looking around waiting for someone else to do something we will lose out.
Bartamus
01-29-2003, 02:57 PM
Snoboy: I applaud your initiative that day at
Black's beach. Another contributor to this forum
sent me a private message about a similar
incident recently at San Onofre's nude beach.
He witnessed a couple openly having sex and
a group of men standing around watching them
and diddling themselves. That kind of behavior
does nothing but make the struggle to keep nude
beaches open in this country much, much tougher.
Cyndiann is right..alerting a life guard or a
nearby patrol, is the kind of pro-active thing
we need to be doing to stop this scourge to
the naturist movement
Snoboy
01-29-2003, 06:25 PM
Bartamus, Just thought you should know that one of the sites in the INA list called R&D Chech (sp) appears okay until you get to about the 5th or 6th page then it has links to pornography and voyeurism. They conceal it well. I have been to to Russia and thought it would be neat to check out the site but I found a lot more than I wanted. If my wife had seen it she would have probably insisted I stop visiting the Forum. I love it and know these sites slip in under the radar occasionally. Thought you would want to know. /infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif
Corky
01-29-2003, 08:19 PM
I couldn't find "INA list called R&D Chech". Please let me know where it is so I can delete the link. Thanks!!
Corky
Bartamus
01-29-2003, 08:42 PM
Corky: He's referring to one of our links. It's
called R&D Czech naturism.
Croydon
01-30-2003, 04:35 AM
I have to agree with Cynd when he asked why "you" didn't do anything when the man at the beach in Halouver was flaunting his erection, especially when you didn't appreciate it.
To add onto what Cynd said...I think that when "you" or anyone for that matter didn't bother to say anything or speak up, "you" are just supporting the activity. In essence, your decision to not speak up only shows how you support this activity. Furthermore, not speaking up only let's the man know that his behavior is acceptable especially among nudist. That being said, he will continue to do it over and over until someone has the courage to say something.
florida-david
01-30-2003, 08:40 AM
hello to theoldman
i love your story about an erection at the dinner table when you were younger. that has to have been the healthiest erection information i have heard yet. we should all treat nudity, erections, masturbation, and menstruation as normal natural physical responses without overshadowing them with unneccessary baggage. thanks for the lesson, i will keep it in mind should this ever happen at my dining table when the kids are older.
Snoboy
01-30-2003, 08:56 AM
I agree with Florida-David and TheOldMan that erections are a natural part of a guy's life and his approach was wholesome. Bravo! I never thought about erections all that much, but in the context of the home environment it should be considered normal and natural because teenagers have a lot of problems with body issues without the stigma of "wood" that occurs regardless of the circumstance. As a youth, I remember having to address my class on a subject in Civics and as it would happen I had an erection. I was mortified and struggled to conceal my very obvious predicament and concentrate on what I had to say. Several guys in the back row, clearly noticed, and were giggling. I broke out in a cold sweat. Anything that can be done to dispel this awkwardness in youth should be encouraged or else more and more young people will shy away from the wonderful life of nudism. As I have said, in other threads, I promote nudism on my college campus but get teased about being naked in Alaska in the winter. I laugh and say, I simply exercise my right to be nude, in doors until the weather turns nice and then back to nature au natural, I go. Sorry for the sermonette. Have a great day Nude Friends. /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
David77
01-30-2003, 08:39 PM
A long-time Canadian sex information expert on TV says that statistically, teen-age males get an erection on the average of about every five minutes throughout the day. Thus, I can not see how in the world a nude teen-ager could participate in vollyball and other sports and stop on the average of every five minutes and cover it until it goes away. This would be impossible, as his team mates would not want to wait every five minutes for his tumesence to subside.
Now, if all the team players were nude teen-agers, they would all have the same necessity to stop, cover up and wait for their tumesence to subside. In this case, it would be hopeless to even try to have any team game going. If their elders say that their erection is shameful when uncovered, would anyone still wonder why so many teen-age males either lose interest in nudism, or, as seen at resorts, nearly all the teen males are wearing some type of shorts? (Some teens will ignore their frequent erections at play, which is sensible, when tolerated by older persons who are understanding.) I, too, say that all their elders should be <u>reasonable</u> and tell their teens to simply ignore their erections, so that they can enjoy naturism too.
Corky
01-30-2003, 10:05 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bartamus:
Corky: He's referring to one of our links. It's
called R&D Czech naturism. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Thanks Bart. It's gone!
Snoboy
01-30-2003, 10:59 PM
Bartamus and Corky, thanks for checking out the site and deleting it. You guy's are incredible and your integrity is heartwarming. I hope to meet you someday if I can ever tear myself away from the frozen north long enough. <grin> I want to attend an INA function some day soon. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
David 77...I still remember many years ago as an adolescent how uncomfortable erections were.I heard the saying ...If you want to keep an erection dont ____ with it. The next step was masturbation.. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Corky
01-30-2003, 11:32 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Snoboy:
Bartamus and Corky, thanks for checking out the site and deleting it. You guy's are incredible and your integrity is heartwarming. I hope to meet you someday if I can ever tear myself away from the frozen north long enough. <grin> I want to attend an INA function some day soon. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Thank you Snoboy!
We love meeting other members. Corey is in Hawaii at Little Beach working on future Nudes in the News shows, plus Bart is leaving for Australia in a few days to take photos tape for future shows from there. You know it is summertime down there now. In a few weeks some of us will be going to Mexico to get more video. We hope to meet you in our future travels. We will be announcing when we are at clubs or beaches so we can meet you and others. Do you get out of Alaska very often?
Corky
David77
01-31-2003, 02:31 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by outdoorbare:
David 77...I still remember many years ago as an adolescent how uncomfortable erections were.I heard the saying ...If you want to keep an erection dont ____ with it. The next step was masturbation.. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Outdoorbare,
Yes, but this "solution" lasts only an average of 20 minutes. This information is from the same sex educator I mentioned above.
For example; "Afterwards", if husbands waits on the average of 20 minutes, they then will be able to again get an erection (for their wife's sake).
florida-david
01-31-2003, 04:42 AM
i find it "hard" to believe that teenage males get an erection every five minutes, there would be no time for them to do anything because they would be too busy dealing with a woody every 5 minutes. i can agree with one every half hour, but i can't remember dealing with one every 5 minutes when i was young. i used to get one on the bus on the way to school at the same exact location regardless of what i was doing, it must have been my "time of the day" to get hard. maybe the test consists of teenagers in a naked laboratory test and they got excited due to the test. any facts for this claim??
Nude in the North
01-31-2003, 05:38 AM
I was a Teenage Male at one time in my life.
I can't remember having erections more than a few times a day.
I very much doubt that ANY teenage boy get's one EVERY 5 minutes.
That would mean in the 10 minutes it took to shower and change after gym class every boy would have had an erection. That just doesn't happen. I can only think of 2 times that anyone in my gym class had an erection.
Steve
Snoboy
01-31-2003, 08:46 AM
On my campus I work out and often share the showers with others guys. We have shower poles with 5 shower heads on each one. It is quite common to see guys in various states of arousal. (You would have to be blind to not see it.) Often the hockey team comes in, climbs out of all their gear and cuts up in the shower or lounges in the sauna. They are often trying to conceal their erections with their hands, but for some that is an impossible task. I find it humerous, but I think it must have something to do with the contact sport and all the adrenaline that is exerted during practice because they go on like nothing is happening and continue to talk and joke around. I would have to say that young guys do have periods of frequent states of arousal and it is just a normal part of life. I would not have commented on it but it seems there is so much curiosity about guys and "wood" that I thought I would insert my two-cents, again. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gifPS every five minutes would have me going crazy...but often...yes. <grin> /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
David77
01-31-2003, 08:56 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by florida-david:
i find it "hard" to believe that teenage males get an erection every five minutes, there would be no time for them to do anything because they would be too busy dealing with a woody every 5 minutes. i can agree with one every half hour, but i can't remember dealing with one every 5 minutes when i was young. i used to get one on the bus on the way to school at the same exact location regardless of what i was doing, it must have been my "time of the day" to get hard. maybe the test consists of teenagers in a naked laboratory test and they got excited due to the test. any facts for this claim?? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>No, I don't have the studies that back up the claim. I will try to find them by contacting this sex educator and asking her what is her source for her statement. She has a (mostly taped) telephone call-in show called "Sunday Night Sex Show" but which is on very night in our region on the "Oxygen" channel. There is also an address given on the program where persons can write to her. She is a registered nurse by profession who has been a sex educator for many years in Canada. She is originally from Winnipeg but is now located in Toronto, I believe. She appears to be age 60 or more. Her first name is Sue and her last name I can not recall. She is obviously well educated on the subject and reads the literature and studies, and consults with expert medical professional in the field. However, her persumed set of ethics regarding proper sexual behaviour would differ from many other viewers, but I trust that her facts are solid. <u>I will get back to you when I have the answer as to what study or studies she is referring to.</u> I would think that her term used here for "erection" refers to <u>any</u> engorgement of the member, and not merely "full mast". I would think that some momentary, very transient "lesser-status" erections do not cause a male to be consciously aware of it, unless he looked at himself. This corresponds to many women who vigorously deny that sexy picture do anything to them sexually, but when they are hooked up to meters and view sexy pictures, it is found that they are just not conscious of it (or do not admit it).
Since the subject of erections vitally affects Naturism, it is important to have valid information on this subject.
David77...I guess thats why I was uncomfortable much of the time as a teen... /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
David77
01-31-2003, 01:01 PM
I found the Sunday Nigt Sex Show on the internet and it has Sue Johanson's picture and says that her program is on every Sunday night at "12P/11C" and says that anyone can call 1-888-203-8890 and ask Sue Johanson a question at the time of her program. I did not see any porn links attached to the site, but since, with my web set-up, I can not get the audio to play, or since I may have overlooked something, I am not taking any chances by publishing the URL. I would be very surprised if there were porn attached to her web site. On most all of her shows, the callers are from Canada, but occasionally the show will have all callers from the USA. I will write her instead, to ask the source of her information on frequency of these erections.
florida-david
02-01-2003, 07:08 PM
well, now david77's last post answers some of my questions regarding a woody every five minutes. in fact, if any blood flows to the penis beyond what is normally flacid, if that is called an erection, than i can see it happening every five minutes. it hardly takes a glance, an exercise, or a rub, and some additional blood will flow to the member. this might occur every five minutes. maybe we all need more information on what qualifies as an erection.
AlaskaRoy
02-10-2003, 12:48 PM
GreenSunshine,
I've noticed the occasional tampon string at naturist activities. Neither I nor anyone else (that I'm aware of) has said anything. It seems rather silly to me that we (naturists) should pretend that menstruation doesn't take place. I might think that wearing a pad and an old-timey kotex "belt" at a naturist activity would seem odd, but tampons? Seems perfectly natural to me. Just my two cents worth.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by greensunshine:
Hey Guys,
...I want you to exchange that picture for the following one:
On the beach, you see a great looking gal /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif , but when you look down where all of us have a habit of looking, you see a string or a pad hanging down between her legs (as Splitfeather pointed in his posting)...now envision having an pleasant conversation with her in the nude /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif
To a lot of us, including us females find this just as gross, crude, and disgusting as looking at one of you guys sporting a woody whether it is on the beach or wherever...neither have a valid place out in the open. Maybe I am being critical or confused /infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif , but some body functions and actions belong elsewhere...
Greensunshine /infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif with why one should behavior be exceptable and knowing the other is NOT exceptable... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Snoboy
02-10-2003, 01:40 PM
Alaskaroy, welcome to the Forum. I am an Alaskan as well. I had heard you were a new member but this was the first time I actually saw you on line. I have sent you private message. Look forward to hearing from you. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
"GreenSunshine,
I've noticed the occasional tampon string at naturist activities. Neither I nor anyone else (that I'm aware of) has said anything. It seems rather silly to me that we (naturists) should pretend that menstruation doesn't take place. I might think that wearing a pad and an old-timey kotex "belt" at a naturist activity would seem odd, but tampons? Seems perfectly natural to me. Just my two cents worth."
Thank you Alaska Roy... I agree with you.
nude2be
02-17-2003, 08:42 AM
Dear One2345654321,
Have you noticed in these postings how many ways a discussion can go? For your original posting, I'm thinking of what you might have done if you did not have the erection. Would you have said hello, nice day out here, etc.? Would you have even looked at this woman in the eyes (to see if she was looking at you)?
To me, you can do the same thing you would have done without an erection as with an erection. Be friendly, aware of yourself without being embarrassed, courteous, etc.
It seems to me this won't be the last time you are seen with an erection. Please just be your self. If it happens, go ahead and be seen without shame. You are a male. Males have non-sexual erections for a variety of reasons.
I believe that you did not consciously want an erection. I believe your reaction to seeing a nude woman was caused by your subconsious and that our subconscious oftentimes control our bodily actions. And that the subsconcious needs to "catch up" to our conscious thinking. So, sooner than you may think, you'll be able to walk along the beach relaxed in every way.
Be true to yourself, go nude and unashamed.
RIVERRAT
02-17-2003, 06:22 PM
shame on all of us for what I have just read, yes all these things are natural, erections, men are flesh they do get arroused, I see videos of full nude body massage by and with both men and women, I wonder how they do this, people are by design turned on by physical contact with the genitals, how does one turn them selves off, some do have that ability, I COULD NOT, slow dancing, I when really into slow dancing would get an errection, I think that is normal, I'M TALKING ABOUT WITH CLOTHES ON , yet some can do it nude, There is a point when a man may have an errection when really turned on by a lovley lady, this would probably happen weither clothed or nude, women, get they're nipples poked out for more than just the cold, though less noticable, men tend to go the other way in the cold or water. I think the main thing is to use decretion, I would be more offended if I had an errection than probably the lady who noticed, I want to be au natual, not ready for sex, I would find a way to cover up without being to obvious if at all possible, I would expect the lady if she had her time of the month to do the same, I have been on a date where the lady was wearing white genes, she came into her period on the dance floor, I realised how embarrassing it was for her, gave her my jacket and we left, we must realise we both men and women have bodily funtions that need to be only visible at certain times lets try to see that cover when we need to.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Snoboy:
On my campus I work out and often share the showers with others guys. We have shower poles with 5 shower heads on each one. It is quite common to see guys in various states of arousal. (You would have to be blind to not see it.) Often the hockey team comes in, climbs out of all their gear and cuts up in the shower or lounges in the sauna. They are often trying to conceal their erections with their hands, but for some that is an impossible task. I find it humerous, but I think it must have something to do with the contact sport and all the adrenaline that is exerted during practice because they go on like nothing is happening and continue to talk and joke around. I would have to say that young guys do have periods of frequent states of arousal and it is just a normal part of life. I would not have commented on it but it seems there is so much curiosity about guys and "wood" that I thought I would insert my two-cents, again. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gifPS every five minutes would have me going crazy...but often...yes. <grin> /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Snoboy
Your comment about the hockey team and their varying states of hardness/erections in the showers reminded me of a conversation I once had with an ex-military guy.
He had grown up not knowing how to spell naturism, far less what it was. When he joined up he was confronted with communal sleeping arrangements and communal showers. Young, fit men wake up with erections as a matter of course and he soon learned that there was nothing to be embarrassed about or ashamed of, just to get up and shower - everyone one was naked and probably to some extent, and often fully, erect. The only rule, given the strong homophobia in the army, was not look at another guy's wood.
It always strikes me as ridiculous that whereas the army (and your hockey team) can deal with as common an issue as erections, many naturists make such a big thing about it while claiming to be enlightened as regards nudity and the freedom to be bare.
Those who claim that they never see them may well be right, largely because those who have them probably try to keep them hidden (clearly there is a difference between a locker room of naked young men and a pool full of naturist families) but that doesn't mean that they don't happen. Those who claim they never happen may well be speaking for themselves but, if they are, I doubt they are fit young men to whom an erection is a regular (and healthy) part of daily life .
Given that fear of a public erection seems to be the key thing that puts many men of trying naturism for the first time it would perhaps be to naturism's benefit if it learned to deal with this issue in a more grown up way.
Xen
Suntied
02-18-2003, 01:46 PM
Hi one2345654321,
The answers to your post are very interesting and surley have given you the idea that erections are not common. I am answering this as a sexually active (hetro) male that was extreamlly nervous about this subject upon my first visit to a club. I built the courage to go alone, which was difficult, pulled into the drive to see a naked woman on a lawn mowing tractor. She waved and continued to mow the lawn. I pulled my pick-up into a parking place and was greeted by a nice older, naked, gentlemen giving me welcome and direction as he introduced himself as the man I had set the visit with. I walked onto the beautiful patio/deck and there were naked men and women having normal conversation, sunbathing, reading and soaking in a hot tub. Since I was clothed, I felt competly out of place. After the administrator had signed me in, I immeaditetly asked if I could get naked and did. The entire two day stay was only awkard for me in that I didn't know anyone, had a tent instead of a camper like everyone else, and I used the restroom to urinate... used a sheet of TP to catch any dribbles... and a small piece left the sheet and stuck. One of the men let me know it was there... that was the most embarassing thing about it all. Other than that I made new friends, hiked the woods, swam in the pond, soaked in the hot-tub,relaxed and had a wonderful time. There were two good looking women... and not even the slightest arousal. I think he knew were we were! And I did two. Sex wasn't even in my subconcious (I think). I should probably add that I was in my mid thirties... but I have always had the same arousal level... well since my early twenties anyway.
Relax... be free... really free!
ZbraCpl
02-18-2003, 05:17 PM
My man told me a funny story that happened long before we met: He was at a nudist resort lying on a lounge by the pool when he drifted off to sleep. When he awoke, he noticed that he had a massive erection and couldn't remember a shred of what he had been dreaming about. (he-he) He swore that this could never happen while awake at a resort, but he had no control over his sub-conscience. What did he do? NOTHING. First, he was relieved to note that nobody was paying him any attention and once again emerging from the dream world, his erection rapidly wilted.
Suntied
02-18-2003, 05:34 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Ben_m:
I believe that naturism is truly freeing - and in more ways than just the obvious feeling of freedom from being free from one's own clothes. It's also the freedom from erroneous ideas that I suspect many of us have learned throughout life. It's simply an amazing thing that more people should experience. I believe it would change the entire world (for the better).[/QB] <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Wow... could we just get this statement on CNN from the presidents, kings/queens, dictators, and every other leader in the modern world!
Good reply Ben_m... you definatly have the right idea on life!!!!!!!!
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Ben_m:
I'm not saying that both exhibitionism and voyeurism don't exist at naturist locations, because I know better (I found out first-hand myself when I visited an unofficial nude beach that is quite close to my home - I visited there once, and don't care to return - not without "body"guards, at least /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif - not trying to blast anybody, but some gay men can be shockingly overt voyeurs, and I certainly wasn't there to be apparent "eye candy" of some weird sort to that... /infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif ).
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I have been told more than once that these men you see acting sexual at beaches are most times not openly gay men but married men who are cruising for other men. The gay population is getting a bad rap on this and I think it is unfair.
j4king
02-18-2003, 08:54 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Ben_m:
some gay men can be shockingly overt voyeurs <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Some HETEROSEXUAL men can be shockingly overt voyeurs too!
Suntied
02-18-2003, 11:58 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by cyndiann:
openly gay men but married men who are cruising for other men. The gay population is getting a bad rap on this and I think it is unfair.[/QB] <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Come on cyndiann,
Give us heterosexuals a break! we don't like being propositioned by gay men any more than you would appreiciate being propositioned by whatever sex it is that you are not interesed in. I 've been to your web-sight... it is nice. Keep up the good work. There doesn't seem to be homosexuality attached to it as far as I could tell (however, a link did bring up some porno stuff (we are not into that)) I don't think you are gay/lesbian, but you have every right to defend them if they are offended. Ben wasn't putting down the ideal of gay/lesbian, just the overt actions taken upon him by a few extream gay men. I would have been p___ o___(ed). I'm glad it hasn't happened to me in the nudist society, since it has happened several times in textile society. I believe we can all get along... if we try a good un-offensive way with a shallow defence to back us up. ie;the best offence is a strong defence /infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif Think about it /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif
I had an apparent gay guy checking out my hardware in a hot tub. I say "apparent" because he told me that he likes looking at the men and boys. I say "to each their own". Look but don't touch. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Bob S.
02-19-2003, 06:06 PM
Ben, I have been harrassed by a guy at a nudist park and believe me, it was not the type of "medicine" that I dish out. Saying that just because some men ogle means that others should be made to feel uncomfortable isn't exactly kosher. I know you didn't mean it that way, but realize that those who are the "oglers" may not recognize it when they become the "eye candy".
And there is a term for people who ogle at others. It is not hetero or homo, but perverted. They are pervs pure and simple. Voyeurs who love staring at others. And the ones who are not lusting after the visions are just plain rude (insert expletive here).
Bob S.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SuntiedinOhio:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by cyndiann:
openly gay men but married men who are cruising for other men. The gay population is getting a bad rap on this and I think it is unfair.Come on cyndiann,
Give us heterosexuals a break! we don't like being propositioned by gay men any more than you would appreiciate being propositioned by whatever sex it is that you are not interesed in. [/qb] <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>There is no sex I'm not interested in. /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
I 've been to your web-sight... it is nice. Keep up the good work. There doesn't seem to be homosexuality attached to it as far as I could tell (however, a link did bring up some porno stuff (we are not into that)) <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
You mean gay links? They are allowed there. There are no links to porno that I know of although that would be allowed as well if it were there to support a discussion. What link do you consider porn?
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
I don't think you are gay/lesbian, but you have every right to defend them if they are offended. Ben wasn't putting down the ideal of gay/lesbian, just the overt actions taken upon him by a few extream gay men. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
But what I said was that the ones making the passes weren't gay... they live otherwise heterosexual lives.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
I would have been p___ o___(ed). I'm glad it hasn't happened to me in the nudist society, since it has happened several times in textile society. I believe we can all get along... if we try a good un-offensive way with a shallow defence to back us up. ie;the best offence is a strong defence /infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif Think about it /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I don't understand what you mean by "if we try a good unoffensive way with a shallow defence to back us up" Could you explain that phrase please?
Suntied
02-19-2003, 09:36 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by cyndiann:
"if we try a good unoffensive way with a shallow defence to back us up" Could you explain that phrase please?[/QB] <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I was quoting an old football phrase in a different way. It has been used in many other idealogies also.
The quote is; "The best offence is a good defence"
Using this in society, over and over again, has caused everyone to be defensive about the action they take... ie; laws that stop anyone from doing what someone else has done before. The people affected by those laws are surcumed by the ones that did something overtly wrong in that context.
For example: A sex pervert flashes women through his over-coat at a street corner... the women are offended and thus causing any sight of the male genetle to be illegal...
Should I go on or do you you get it???
If we can ease up on everyone else
Life tends to take care of itself!!! /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
I understand it put that way.
Could you tell me where you saw a link you considered porn on my website?
Suntied
02-20-2003, 05:37 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by cyndiann:
I understand it put that way.
Could you tell me where you saw a link you considered porn on my website? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I do get a little carried away with the creative writing at times. When I read it this-morning, I wasn't quite sure what I was trying to say either!?! /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif
Since you understand it that way, I just want to explain a bit more in that I feel that if it were not for offensive people, we wouldn't need to be so defensive, protected, or hiden from society like a bunch of outcasts. The overt voyuers ruin alot of freedom for us all, not just the gay/lesbians or heterosexuals.
Ok, I'm done rambling... /infopop/emoticons/icon_redface.gif
I will try to remember which link took me there, but I was just cruising through and some pop-up showed-up offering all kinds of young teen nudes. I closed it and didn't go there because the naked teen seperated from anyone naked kind of makes it perverse or pornographic. That is just my opinion... do you agree? /infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif
My 19 year old daughter shares this computer with me and many sites get your e-mail/s and send some pretty tasteless stuff. I don't want her becoming more against my nudity than she already is... I hope you understand. /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
Thank you for the reply Cyndiann I didn't make you mad earlier... did I?
Wish I were in FL!!!
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Bart/Suntied
AussieBeachBoy
02-20-2003, 08:11 PM
I happen to get erections fairly regularly. Sitting at my desk at work, in bed at night - all sorts of situations.
I've only started to go to nude beaches recently. I've read a lot of stuff on local nudist websites where people look with disapproval on guys with erections at nudist venues. Many people seem to think that you're either a pervert, or doing it on purpose or something.
Well, I do get erections when naked. Each time I go to a nude beach I get several erections whilst there. And, because of the attitude that so many people express, it does make me feel awkward and unwelcomed, and I sit down or lie on my stomach to try and hide my erection. Now, no-one has ever said anything to me, but I just feel bad knowing that there are probably people round thinking I'm rude, or doing it on purpose.
As several posters have pointed out above, there's a bit of a double standard at play. One thing nearly all nudists would agree on is that we shouldn't really be ashamed of our bodies. I think that if you have this view, you also need to accept that men do get erections, for all sorts of reasons, and can't control them. Heck, if I could, I would. But until a more accepting attitude gets around, I'll always feel a bit uncomfortable when I get an erection in public, because I don't like the thought of my body putting other people off.
I should note (at risk of generalising) that it tends to be older people who frown the most on guys with erections. Perhaps they've forgotten quite what it can be like to be young...
I can't speak for women, but maybe older men who can't get an erection, like myself, are just jealous. As you say, there are different reasons for erections.
What kind of thoughts are going through your mind when you're nude with other people? This is a hypothetical question, and I'm not looking for an answer. It's for you to think about your reasons for being nude with others.
You didn't mention your age, and I'm assuming you're young since erections are so common with you. Although there are men who aren't what would be considered young are easily aroused. The younger the male the more common erections are. Some males are more easily aroused than others. You're apparently one of those who is easily aroused.
Many people tend to think that if you have an erection then you're sexually excited. As you say many older people have forgotten that many causes of an erection are NOT sexual, and therefore they should be ignored. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> I feel that if it wern't for offensive people, we wouldn't need to be so defensive, protected, or hiden from society like a bunch of outcasts. The overt voyuers ruin alot of freedom for us all, not just the gay/lesbians or heterosexuals. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I don't think gays and lesbians ruin anything for anybody, sometimes being a voyeur is fun and again I don't understand you.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
I will try to remember which link took me there, but I was just cruising through and some pop-up showed-up offering all kinds of young teen nudes. I closed it and didn't go there because the naked teen seperated from anyone naked kind of makes it perverse or pornographic. That is just my opinion... do you agree? /infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Nude teen pop ups? Where the hell were you?
Suntied
02-20-2003, 09:48 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by cyndiann:
again I don't understand you.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Cyndiann?!?! /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif
I think you are reading into me too much. I'm not trying to pick a fight/argument. /infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif
All I mean is that the extream behaviour that Ben was exposed to was offensive to him. He has now created a strong defense (not without body-guards) because of the offense he was exposed to. He said they were gay. You said they were hetero/married men looking for other men... that is GAY or more scientificly put... homosexual.
/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif
I have also been offended by gay/homosexual men and had my clothes on. I can imagine how akward he must have felt, expecially being outnumbered!
/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif
You replied that the gay community was getting a bad wrap by heterosexual men looking for men???
That would make them gay! /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
As for you understanding the offence defence thing... I played football for twelve years, and was damn good... the defence is what you would have been good at because you are always on gaurd, waiting for an attack. That is a great way to be in modern society... because of all of the offensive people in this society. I am not trying to change your ideas or values, I just want people here to imagine a life where the strong defence isn't needed at all! /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
It is an opinion, not a fact...
I hit ADD REPLY and can't take it back!
Bart/Suntied /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif
PS: Your website... I'm sorry I don't remember how I got there, but I don't want to go back until you figure it out... my textile daughter and all. Let me know though, OK!!!
Peace love and ease up on me!
Suntied
02-20-2003, 10:12 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by AussieBeachBoy:
Perhaps they've forgotten quite what it can be like to be young... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Hey AussieBeachBoy,
Dude, don't worry about it. You get a woody and people think it gay... Sup, they may not be all that phat anyway! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
How's that for a guy that wishes he were still that young... and I remember well. I was worried too dude! /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
Be generous and kind to other's feelings and they will return the favor if they have the right heart motivation. If they don't, then your generation knows how to treat 'em.
Be happy, be free, be nude!!! /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
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Bart/Suntied
Croydon
02-21-2003, 05:09 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SuntiedinOhio:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by cyndiann:
again I don't understand you.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Cyndiann?!?! /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif
I think you are reading into me too much. I'm not trying to pick a fight/argument. /infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif
All I mean is that the extream behaviour that Ben was exposed to was offensive to him. He has now created a strong defense (not without body-guards) because of the offense he was exposed to. He said they were gay. You said they were hetero/married men looking for other men... that is GAY or more scientificly put... homosexual.
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I have also been offended by gay/homosexual men and had my clothes on. I can imagine how akward he must have felt, expecially being outnumbered!
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You replied that the gay community was getting a bad wrap by heterosexual men looking for men???
That would make them gay! /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
As for you understanding the offence defence thing... I played football for twelve years, and was damn good... the defence is what you would have been good at because you are always on gaurd, waiting for an attack. That is a great way to be in modern society... because of all of the offensive people in this society. I am not trying to change your ideas or values, I just want people here to imagine a life where the strong defence isn't needed at all! /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
It is an opinion, not a fact...
I hit ADD REPLY and can't take it back!
Bart/Suntied /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif
PS: Your website... I'm sorry I don't remember how I got there, but I don't want to go back until you figure it out... my textile daughter and all. Let me know though, OK!!!
Peace love and ease up on me! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>SuntiedinOhio, i think you are the last person who should be commenting on what is gay and what constitutes being gay. Being gay goes beyond a man wanting a man. There are a lot of psychological "battles" that comes along with this. You aren't gay thus you have no say in what makes someone gay. I suggest you don't comment on something you have no critical knowledge about., Cyn, makes good points in terms of homosexuals being blamed for things that lies with heterosexuals.. "Oh the nude beach is being closed? Let's blame the homos"...it appears that whenever something goes wrong for nudist and their venues, heterosexuals are quick to blame the gays. It is time for some heterosexuals to start taking the blame.
Good point Croydon.... thanks.
Now....
"PS: Your website... I'm sorry I don't remember how I got there, but I don't want to go back until you figure it out... my textile daughter and all. Let me know though, OK!!!"
There are no nude teen porn pop ups on my website. Perhaps you were surfing someplace else and it popped up. Sometimes they come up underneath, even after you leave the site. Please stop saying I have porn on my site when I don't. I was thinking that maybe my definition of porn was just different from yours but the only place I have pop ups are on a temporary chatroom just put up and they don't do porn ads. If you can't tell me where you were and how you encountered this please don't bring it up.
Gary Naturist
02-21-2003, 04:11 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by AussieBeachBoy:
[QB]I happen to get erections fairly regularly. Sitting at my desk at work, in bed at night - all sorts of situations.
Well, I do get erections when naked. Each time I go to a nude beach I get several erections whilst there. And, because of the attitude that so many people express, it does make me feel awkward and unwelcomed, and I sit down or lie on my stomach to try and hide my erection. Now, no-one has ever said anything to me, but I just feel bad knowing that there are probably people round thinking I'm rude, or doing it on purpose.
As several posters have pointed out above, there's a bit of a double standard at play. One thing nearly all nudists would agree on is that we shouldn't really be ashamed of our bodies. I think that if you have this view, you also need to accept that men do get erections, for all sorts of reasons, and can't control them. Heck, if I could, I would. But until a more accepting attitude gets around, I'll always feel a bit uncomfortable when I get an erection in public, because I don't like the thought of my body putting other people off.
[QB] <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Aussie: Through my 20s, I also got erections when naked with others. I describe them as "embarrassment erections" because I would get one as a result of someone looking at me or even when I thought that someone might be looking at me. Very frustrating. It definitely slowed down my involvment in nudism.
It would have been beneficial if I had been able to quit fighting it and simply let it happen. I might have gotten over the problem much sooner. But in those days erections in public were a big no-no.
Today, attitudes among nudists tend to be more sympathetic and tolerant. Nevertheless, it's not too common to find yourself in a situation where no one around you has any problem with your having a continuing erection.
Time will likely take care of the problem.
Gary
RIVERRAT
02-21-2003, 05:00 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by l2bnude:
Hello again. I see that the topic of erection is still going on. And it will forever /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif . I just wanted to say that, like some others said, the erection itself is not gross, unnatural, rude, threaten, (though some would argue with that), nor is it something to be ashamed of. But it is not what most people at a nudist area want to see. Again, depending on what has caused it and what is being done about it, determines how others will react. It has been said that in the early olimpics, back when they were nude, that a lot of the athletes would get erections, and that most would cover up. Not that they were ashamed, but that it was more appropriate at the time. Physical activities can cause an erection, especially if you are nude, but it soon goes away. The site of the opposite sex too can cause one. The way you handle the situation is how others are going to remember and react to you. Actually, if a man has an erection around a group, and he covers up, a lot of the time it will be a start of a conversation that sometimes would never have started. And most of the time it will be a light hearted and funny conversation that could lead to new friends and fun times with those that we just met. Again, this is just how I feel and what I do if and when I happen. Thanks l2bnude <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>you refere to the olympics in early Greese, you are talking about physical contact and many were gay, being nude and phyical contact and kinda liking the guy you are wrestling, I can see an errection, it does not belong in a coed event with children around, cover up or go home
RIVERRAT
02-21-2003, 05:10 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Snoboy:
On my campus I work out and often share the showers with others guys. We have shower poles with 5 shower heads on each one. It is quite common to see guys in various states of arousal. (You would have to be blind to not see it.) Often the hockey team comes in, climbs out of all their gear and cuts up in the shower or lounges in the sauna. They are often trying to conceal their erections with their hands, but for some that is an impossible task. I find it humerous, but I think it must have something to do with the contact sport and all the adrenaline that is exerted during practice because they go on like nothing is happening and continue to talk and joke around. I would have to say that young guys do have periods of frequent states of arousal and it is just a normal part of life. I would not have commented on it but it seems there is so much curiosity about guys and "wood" that I thought I would insert my two-cents, again. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gifPS every five minutes would have me going crazy...but often...yes. <grin> /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I used to be a member of the YMCA, we had a great health club and a great workout gym, we also had lockerroom, shared with a couple of hundred guys, we were naked from the locker room to the saunna and showers I never saw an errection, I went every night after work for about 5 or more years, Iam seriously concerned about the people you gym with
RIVERRAT
02-21-2003, 05:24 PM
I would ask you to go back to page 3 of this topic and read my reply, Thank you
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by RIVERRAT:
I would ask you to go back to page 3 of this topic and read my reply, Thank you <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Who are you talking to?
David77
02-22-2003, 10:38 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by RIVERRAT:
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I used to be a member of the YMCA, we had a great health club and a great workout gym, we also had lockerroom, shared with a couple of hundred guys, we were naked from the locker room to the saunna and showers I never saw an errection, I went every night after work for about 5 or more years, Iam seriously concerned about the people you gym with[/QB][/QUOTE]
Riverrat,
When you state "I am seriously concerned about the people you gym with", you seem to be inferring that men who get erections in the shower room are perverts. It really irritates me if natural erections are misinterpreted as perversions, as it is unfare. What I COULD be "seriously concerned about" (but I'm not) is your "blind spot" memory which seems to be unwilling to remember the reality of your five year experience at showering or changing clothes amoung hundreds of men at the YMCA.
But possibly you are referring to "long-term, full-mast, exhibition of an erection". I don't happen to recall any such "scene" imprinted on my mind either, but, unlike you, I can't say that it never happened in my long membership in the YMCA over a span of over 60 years, and my memory is still pretty good at my present age of 77 years. I still swim laps at the YMCA 3 or 4 times a week (I do not get a "woody") but once in awhile others get some degree of erection sometimes, but usually any man in the shower who gets a degree of erection turns so that he is facing the shower wall and shower nozel, with his back side toward the rest of the men showering, until the erection goes away.
Now I find it imparative to come to their defense as fine normal persons, and to come to the defense of people like the young Australian man, a new guy on the bulletin board who posted recently about fearing that getting erections on the beach would brand him as something terrible and perverse. It's simply blessed nature working thru fine young people. Nothing more should, unjustifyably, be read into it - for these young teen-agers, especially.
Many times an erection has nothing whatsoever to do with sexual thoughts. A male wakes up with an erection because of a full bladder. Exercising can cause an erection as it used to do with me when I ws young. The younger the male the more easily he gets erections unrelated to sexual thoughts.
florida-david
02-22-2003, 03:11 PM
i wish i got erections as much as i used to when i was younger. i still get them occasionally, but i ALWAYS get one greeting me in the morning. i tell my boys that should an erection happen to them, it is their body telling them they are functioning as they should. i also tell them to tell me if they do not get occasional erections as there could be a problem. i think naturally occuring erections are great and no-one should be made to feel ashamed of them. just don't flaunt them in front of others....
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jon-Marc:
Many times an erection has nothing whatsoever to do with sexual thoughts. A male wakes up with an erection because of a full bladder. Exercising can cause an erection as it used to do with me when I ws young. The younger the male the more easily he gets erections unrelated to sexual thoughts. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I used to work out at Genesis which is the gym at Paradise Lakes. I saw men get erections from working out all the time. It just wasn't an issue.
I would be seriously concerned about guys that never got erections over something not sexual.
Suntied
02-22-2003, 09:49 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by florida-david:
just don't flaunt them in front of others....[/QB] <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I think that is all it should take to end this discussion florisa-david. People have been talking about them happening... not happening and someone fell asleep sunbathing and woke up with one /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
They do not happen that much... but if they do, don't walk around with it proudly showing how your penis has filled with blood and is ready for sex... ie; flaunt! Save your Viagra for the proper venue! /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif
Enough said... I think, but it is just my opinion and they are not like erections, because not everybody has one (Ha,HA)! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Enjoy what you have...
/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif Bart/Suntied
AussieBeachBoy
02-23-2003, 01:50 PM
Jon-Marc asked:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>What kind of thoughts are going through your mind when you're nude with other people? This is a hypothetical question, and I'm not looking for an answer. It's for you to think about your reasons for being nude with others. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Actually, I have no particular reason to "be nude with others". I like being on a beach where I can get naked. I'm actually a pretty shy guy and by preference would rather there weren't others there. But they are. So I guess, my reason for being nude with others is that I need to find a place where I can be naked, and where others who happen to find me won't find my nudity offensive. I do try to find more secluded beaches where there aren't so many people around.
skyblazer
02-23-2003, 05:02 PM
Hi everyone,
I'm new to this and thought I'd try my hand at a reply. After reading many of the posts on this subject I feel compelled to write a post as well. I travel extensively with my job and this has allowed me to visit a few beaches that were clothing optional. I also belong to two health clubs on both coasts. Here is what I have observed thus far with regards to erections. I think the human body is an incredible piece of machinery and in alot of ways an outstanding work of art. I enjoy people watching.....not at all in the sexual sense....but just like seeing others enjoying themselves and those around them. I find it intrigueing at who has indulged in tatoo's
and body piercing, smooth shave and natural, who likes to workout and who doesn't.
I have parked my naked but amongst gay nudist, the single straight and those married areas, and along in the left over woodstock hippie areas of various beaches. I have seen erections at both the beach and in my health club. I find it sort of cute when I see a young guy with an erection and how he deals with it. What I have noticed is that the young guys and their friends seem not to even bat an eye at it and just go on having a normal moment. It seems that those who are frustrated over this issue are the older folks....why? It seems that some where along the years as we age our view of an erection on any one goes from normal to sexual. I don't get it....an erection is a beautiful function of the body.....and am I glad I get them....thank god! Why should we portray this negative way of looking at an erection towards any of our young guys, especially those who are new to this?
I have notice that while I stroll down the beach I see many older out of shape guys with wedding rings on checking guys out. Not the gays or the young guys who may have an erection of some degree. They are going about their fun and not paying much attention to anyone. When I have gone to Blacks Beach I have noticed that when I have to relieve myself and there are no facilities I have to pull it up to the bushes. Well guess what....there are older guys in the bushes and with wedding rings on fondling themselves while peering out to the naked folks. So you see...or need to see just who is sporting the erection and in the wrong sense of being natural like the young guys on the beach. Perhaps when we give a young person a feeling to hide then this is where they will most likely end up...in the bushes.
All in all I hope I didn't offend anyone in anyway. I just see it as an erection doesn't make a gay, or pervert. Does an unruly bush and hairy armpits make a lesbian? Hope you all have a great day and be naked and be happy. There are alot worse things in life then an erection on a young guy or anyone for that matter.....just stay out of those bushes.......Peace! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
RIVERRAT
02-27-2003, 09:55 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by cyndiann:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by RIVERRAT:
I would ask you to go back to page 3 of this topic and read my reply, Thank you <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Who are you talking to? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Cyn, anyone who would like to, go back to number 3
RIVERRAT
02-27-2003, 10:07 PM
to david77
Sir you are many years my senior, but I still disagree with you, I spent 4 years in the navy, showering side by side with other men and never seeing the need for an errection, now maybe I just didn't look or it never happened, I really don't understand. As for at the "Y" I was there every night for over 5 years, we were naked in the lockerroom, in the steam room, and in the showers, I never saw an errection, now maybe I'm too nyeive to know what an errection is, after all I'M only 56, but I still worry a little about the guys you shower with.
David77
02-28-2003, 04:53 AM
RIVERRAT SIR,
I grant you to have the LAST word. Period.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by David77:
RIVERRAT SIR,
I grant you to have the LAST word. Period. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Err! Didn't you just have the last word? /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Rik
Whenever I argue with my wife I always make sure I get the last word: it's usually "yes dear"!
David77
02-28-2003, 09:25 AM
Rik,
If some of your arguments end up with your saying "Yes dear", even with your grand ability and interest in being persuasive, then I would say that your wife probably has no need to attend any "Assertiveness Training" courses. Good for her!
Snoboy
02-28-2003, 01:32 PM
Riverrat, You made a rather peculiar statement..."never saw the need for an erection" when your relating showers with other enlisted men. You seem to be an authority on the "penis" so could you explain to me when a need would arise in the shower room for one? Just curious...I guess, but considering your stand on erections I thought it worthy of a mention. Have a wonderful day. /infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
RIVERRAT
02-28-2003, 06:16 PM
My point was "everyone was talking about erections at showers or men being naked with other men", my point was, not just military, I also mentioned gyms, steam rooms and male communal showers at the gym, you saw fit to leave that out, I never saw a man with an errection, you would notice that even if you weren,t looking. When you are in a shower with 10 shower heads and all 10 were in use I think you would notice if someone went walking off with an errection. I never did. I will say I may have missed one or two as I did not see every penis that came through, you probably would have.
undressed
03-02-2003, 04:10 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by greensunshine:
Hey Guys,
For all of those who have no problem with another guy sporting a woody wherever...I want you to exchange that picture for the following one:
On the beach, you see a great looking gal /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif , but when you look down where all of us have a habit of looking, you see a string or a pad hanging down between her legs (as Splitfeather pointed in his posting)...now envision having an pleasant conversation with her in the nude /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif
To a lot of us, including us females find this just as gross, crude, and disgusting as looking at one of you guys sporting a woody whether it is on the beach or wherever...neither have a valid place out in the open. Maybe I am being critical or confused /infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif , but some body functions and actions belong elsewhere...
Greensunshine /infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif with why one should behavior be exceptable and knowing the other is NOT exceptable... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
undressed
03-02-2003, 04:29 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by cyndiann:
It is a real simple question Steve.... Haulover has more people around to help out with problems than probably any beach in the country. I'm real blunt when I post so get used to it. I think you are reading things into it that aren't there.
Why didn't you take the situation to those in charge? That is what is nice about Haulover, you don't have to be the "nudie police" because there are people who can take care of things like that.
I've been on much more isolated beaches like Playalinda where I've had to take matters into my own hands when people get sexual. I've approached people and made them stop all on my own. If you allow things like that to go on it makes you responsible, almost as much so as the offender. We have few enough nude places as it is and I don't want to lose more. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
crchris
03-08-2003, 08:59 PM
Dear All,
Yes, this question gets a lot of comments...
While I agree there are "acceptable" behaviors we all must follow, things that cannot be controlled should be viewed as just that.
We preach and go on about body acceptance, yet, when a man gets an errection, it is seen as "dirty" "sexual" and inappropriate.
The statement of, "should then women be chastised for hard nipples?" must be examined as well.
Errections happen. Period.
Are they sexual? Not necessarily. In the same way that a hard nipple (male or female) may or may not be sexual.
Now, if the person reaches down and starts fondling the area, then YES, that is sexual and inappropriate at Naturist locations.
The mere body reaction of becomming errect is NOT sexual.
It's what one does with it that is.
If we beg the textile world to accept nudity, then we as a culture must accept it as well. ALL of it. Erections are natural. Those against Naturism go around stating that "nudity is sexual". We scream, "No it is not!"
BUT, many us us who preach the loudest saying we are not being sexual, get upset over an errection?
Women, let me ask you a question: If I stated that, "When your nipples become erect, you were being sexual and should cover them". What would your response be?
If we cannot accept nudity (and all that entails) as Naturists, how can be beg the opposition to?
Ladies, I become errect sometimes when I am at resorts. I'm gay. Trust me, it is not because of you... Relax, go ahead and let your nipples become hard. I promise I will not be offended. Please give me the same courtesy when my body does what it does naturally as well.
Thank you!
Bob S.
03-09-2003, 05:50 PM
I may have stated this before, but I think it needs to be repeated.
We can go back and forth on whether it is appropriate to have an erection, walk around with it, etc. but in the nudist world, it is just common courtesy to cover up an erection, if possible.
There are also some other unwritten courtesy rules that govern behaviour in general society such as following up a belch with an "excuse me," keeping your elbows off the table when eating, not receiving or making cell phone calls at a theatre, etc.
Just realize that, as a courtesy, you should make an attempt to cover up a erection that you have and don't worry so much about whether it is right or wrong to have one.
Bob S.
j4king
03-09-2003, 08:10 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bob S.:
There are also some other unwritten courtesy rules that govern behaviour in general society such as following up a belch with an "excuse me," keeping your elbows off the table when eating, not receiving or making cell phone calls at a theatre, etc. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>If we were to allow ourselves to be governed by all the rules of general society then we wouldn't be nudists/naturists in the first place.
Gary Naturist
03-09-2003, 11:11 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bob S.:
I may have stated this before, but I think it needs to be repeated.
We can go back and forth on whether it is appropriate to have an erection, walk around with it, etc. but in the nudist world, it is just common courtesy to cover up an erection, if possible.
Bob S. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I would agree with your statement if you limit it to the conventional nudist world. But there are also unconventional nudists as well.
Personally, I have no problem with "innocent" erections and do not believe that should have to be covered up.
The exception that I would make is in locations where there are non-nudists who might not understand and call out the authorities, thereby threatening a clothing-optional location.
Gary
Croydon
03-10-2003, 06:47 AM
Bob S.[/qb][/QUOTE]
Personally, I have no problem with "innocent" erections and do not believe that should have to be covered up.
The exception that I would make is in locations where there are non-nudists who might not understand and call out the authorities, thereby threatening a clothing-optional location.
Gary[/QB][/QUOTE]
You are conflicting yourself. You can not have one set of standards/exceptions for one thing and something different for another thing. I agree 100% with Bob S. It is not hard to cover up your errection. No one other than the person who has the erections knows why. That being said, it is not hard to cover it up. Out of respect for others and yourself as well as to avoid conflicts/troubles, just cover it up. No need to be stupid by walking around with an erection and cause a stir. Many naturist believe showing off an erection, no matter how innocent, is a no no. Just out of respect, just over it up. Do you find it appropriate to display an erection. So I guess it does no harm for a man to display his errection, however innocent, at a beach where a lot of children and their families are playing....I DON'T THINK SO
nudist_in_Tn
03-10-2003, 09:07 AM
I think we have beat this issue to death, /infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif can we please move on ?
Bob S.
03-10-2003, 06:38 PM
After this post, I promise to not comment again on it in this thread.
j4king, you misunderstood my reason for adding those rules of etiquette in genreal society. I was showing how we have created unwritten rukes of courtesy and etiquette. Belching, placing your elbows on the table, and talking on the cell phone in theatres are not harmful, they are just considered rude or unmannerly. The same goes for erections in my view. They are just unmannerly and, as a community of nudists, we have decided that to cover it up is just a show of etiquette.
Nothing more, nothing less.
Bob S.
EricNY
03-10-2003, 07:36 PM
Bob
Well put, I could not agree more>.
soundman
03-10-2003, 07:59 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bob S.:
After this post, I promise to not comment again on it in this thread.
j4king, you misunderstood my reason for adding those rules of etiquette in genreal society. I was showing how we have created unwritten rukes of courtesy and etiquette. Belching, placing your elbows on the table, and talking on the cell phone in theatres are not harmful, they are just considered rude or unmannerly. The same goes for erections in my view. They are just unmannerly and, as a community of nudists, we have decided that to cover it up is just a show of etiquette.
Nothing more, nothing less.
Bob S. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Aren't nudists considered rude or unmannerly to some people, and need to be covered up as a show of etiquette? Aren't you being just like them by making people cover up a platonic erection? I have noticed the main reason most men do not participate in naturism is the fear of getting an erection. Why have this fear? Most non-sexual erections only last a short while. Why not just have acceptance and understanding?
EricNY
03-10-2003, 08:04 PM
No one says don't have one......Just don't wave it around..be cool about it. /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif
soundman
03-10-2003, 08:21 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ercNY:
No one says don't have one......Just don't wave it around..be cool about it. /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I am just talking about uncovered, and be cool. Not waving. Is that okay?
EricNY
03-10-2003, 08:36 PM
Discretion.... thats all, and all is good /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
soundman
03-10-2003, 08:57 PM
Covered discretion or uncovered discretion? That is the final question.
EricNY
03-10-2003, 09:18 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by soundman:
Covered discretion or uncovered discretion? That is the final question. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>It does not have to be your final question.
Before I answer with my opinion,do you feel you should be able to show it off when it occurs?
soundman
03-10-2003, 09:34 PM
No, I do not. Simply being uncovered doesn't mean showing off. Putting shorts or a towel on everytime it happens implies shame and embarrassment. Is that good?
EricNY
03-10-2003, 09:50 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by soundman:
No, I do not. Simply being uncovered doesn't mean showing off. Putting shorts or a towel on everytime it happens implies shame and embarrassment. Is that good? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Dude how often does it happen? Are you that out of control that you feel that you need to cover up every five minutes?
If it happens as much as you say it does, you should not be on a nude beach,you should be in the movies /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
soundman
03-10-2003, 10:00 PM
I never said it happens often. It rarely happens. But if it does, do I need to run for the towel or discreetly ignore it.
EricNY
03-10-2003, 10:08 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by soundman:
I never said it happens often. It rarely happens. But if it does, do I need to run for the towel or discreetly ignore it. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>If it rarely happens what are we talking about?
Run NO, but keep in mind there are women and children, for the sake of repeating myself.Just be discreet. How simple can it be?
Are you trying to make a point?
soundman
03-10-2003, 10:13 PM
No, I am still just trying to find out if discreet means it has to be covered up or not.
EricNY
03-10-2003, 10:20 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by soundman:
No, I am still just trying to find out if discreet means it has to be covered up or not. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>In my and many others opinion.........................YES
soundman
03-10-2003, 10:27 PM
Thanks. I'll bring a towel.
EricNY
03-10-2003, 10:32 PM
Cool man /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
You will be welcome on any beach.
Welcome to INA forum by the way.
Snoboy
03-11-2003, 08:47 AM
I am so relieved you guy's smoothed out the "splinters" in WOOD. It certainly took a lot of sanding. /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif
EricNY
03-11-2003, 09:02 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Snoboy:
I am so relieved you guy's smoothed out the "splinters" in WOOD. It certainly took a lot of sanding. /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I got a kick how you worded that /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
I was not sure how that was going to end up.
Alls well that ends well /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
florida-david
03-11-2003, 06:13 PM
i say, keep the wood uncovered, just don't flap it around. also we should all be so lucky to get frequent erections. no need to cover it up, or sand it down (OUCH)
soundman
03-11-2003, 08:54 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by florida-david:
i say, keep the wood uncovered, just don't flap it around. also we should all be so lucky to get frequent erections. no need to cover it up, or sand it down (OUCH) <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I guess I don't have to worry about the towel if only people like florida-david are around.
RIVERRAT
03-13-2003, 09:28 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ercNY:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by soundman:
No, I am still just trying to find out if discreet means it has to be covered up or not. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>In my and many others opinion.........................YES <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Our reason for being here isn't to show off our manhood, if it happens and I know it does from time to time, cover up, children and others do not need to see you arroused, I know it can and will happen, it happened to me once, I packed up and left, I was that ashamed, I don't think anyone saw, but I knew.Thats not why I'm there.
djkjnude25
03-14-2003, 12:03 PM
Here's a thought......If you have an erection and cover up....you may as well fly a flag that says "I have an erection"....cuz everyone knows what the deal is...Why can't we just be?....there is no real difference between an erect and a flacid penis other than size. Why don't all men just go get there ligaments cut so it hangs straight down all the time...whether it's flacid or erect.
Suntied
03-14-2003, 10:30 PM
Personally, I think the number of pages that this has created needs to be covered.
When I joined as a MEMBER (oops bad pun)
The number of pages on this post was
1 2
Then some of us had a heated discussion and
1 2 3 4
Now others keep replying to the replies of others and...
1 /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif 2 /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif 3 /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif 4 /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif 5 /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif 6 /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif
Seams a bit much... where's the towel?
Nudity Rules!!!
/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif Suntied
Just being funny, I hope?!?!
Snoboy
03-15-2003, 11:55 AM
Considering how many comments have been made on the subject of ERECTIONS, I have come to a major conclusion, SIZE DOES MATTER!!! /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif
Niki23
03-18-2003, 12:50 PM
This topic just gets bigger.
While I was in high school, after games lesson had to shower with all the other boys and I saw a couple of erections and before I got out the shower, I started to get one, so I got out and put the towel over my willy.
florida-david
03-18-2003, 05:27 PM
now that is a healthy reaction to a normal physical reaction. no freaking out, just get done showering and cover the wood.
GOOD JOB
Niki23
03-19-2003, 10:09 AM
I did cover for a few times.
florida-david
03-19-2003, 06:38 PM
does that mean that you no longer cover the erections? i don't think you need to but be prepared for teasing from the guys. be ready to tell them erections are normal and that you are sure they get erections as well. maybe you can influence several other young men to think that natural erections are not a big deal. boy, now that would be a nice situation...
Niki23
03-21-2003, 01:09 PM
Well after I go swimming, I come to the showers in the communal and shower nude.
There was a few men in the changing rooms and I started to get an erection, so I just continued showering and drying up and I just covered my willy up.
Dare Devil
03-26-2003, 12:02 PM
Shame on you greensunshine. You obviously don't understand that an erection isn't like a period or urinating. You can't preempt it and hold it in or push it down.
A young man gets erections very often, only 10% of the time for sexual reasons, and whether you think it's good manners or not is irrelevant. Like, breathing it can't be helped so just accept it and stop making life so hard for young male nudists
Dale B
03-26-2003, 01:02 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by one2345654321:
what happens when men get erections?
I was just walking on a nude beach and a nude lady was walking 20 feet away in my direction it was my first time nude so i get stimulated. I had a big obvious erection, and as I walked by the lady she gave me a real dirty look. WHAT DO U DO WHEN U GET ONE? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Why should a woman (or anyone for this matter) give a dirty look for a natural reaction? It doesn't necessarily mean your being perverted at all. I get erections even when I'm not thinking about sex or the like. It's just an uncontrolled reaction to something. I haven't been to a nudist resort or beach yet. My guess is that I would get an errection just from the initial shock of being uncovered in the open air, since it has been covered up since birth whenever I'm outside.
Dale B
03-26-2003, 01:26 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by greensunshine:
PS
Being nude does not equate being crude and sporting woodies out in public where others can wittness such behavior is considered lude and crude /infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif manner /infopop/emoticons/icon_redface.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Why is it considered lude and crude when most of the time it is an uncontrolled action for first timers? I would think that after a while of experiencing being nude in the open air guys wouldn't have this uncontrolled action.
I don't think "behavior" is the best word to use here when it is uncontrolled action. Behaviors are the 'carrying out' of the thoughts of people.
Dale B
03-26-2003, 01:38 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by l2bnude:
Should anyone be offended by it? No, you should not, unless it is flaunted around.
That being said though, I do not feel that it is proper to walk around with one. The main reason is that a male with an erection brings on thought of one wanting or looking for sex, and that is the last thing that you want to have others at a nude beach or resort thinking. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>The thoughts of the 'viewer(s)' can be changed.
And is simply walking around with an erection the same as flaunting it? I don't think so! The flaunting is added to the walking. One can walk without flaunting.
Dale B
03-26-2003, 03:48 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SuntiedinOhio:
I will try to remember which link took me there, but I was just cruising through and some pop-up showed-up offering all kinds of young teen nudes. I closed it and didn't go there because the naked teen seperated from anyone naked kind of makes it perverse or pornographic. That is just my opinion... do you agree? /infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif
Bart/Suntied <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Maybe you should purchase a copy of the latest version of Zone Alarm Pro and turn on the Pop-Up Ad Blocker.
/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif
I don't think it matters what web site you visit. Pop-Ups come up anytime they are 'pushed' to your computer.
Dale B
03-26-2003, 04:08 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by florida-david:
i wish i got erections as much as i used to when i was younger. i still get them occasionally, but i ALWAYS get one greeting me in the morning. i tell my boys that should an erection happen to them, it is their body telling them they are functioning as they should. i also tell them to tell me if they do not get occasional erections as there could be a problem. i think naturally occuring erections are great and no-one should be made to feel ashamed of them. just don't flaunt them in front of others.... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I totally agree with this, David. We just shouldn't flaunt it in front of others.
Niki23
03-27-2003, 02:35 PM
If it happens to me when I'm nude in front of others, I just cover the wood.
Aaron
03-27-2003, 03:17 PM
I agree with Alex Contino. An erection is very much so a natural occurance. You really can't control when you have an attraction to someone wether it be physical or not. i also agree with him when he said that she might have taken it as compliment because let's face it you guys the first thing you notice about somebody, dressed or not, 9/10 times is thier physical appearance. I would take it as a compliment if I was able notice something like that about a women when we met.
Anyways, if you are to get an erection in a public nude area, it's not all that big of a deal to the naturist around you. I started to get one at Laguna Del Soul during NudeStock. It really didn't get to noticable because all the activity artound me sort of kept my mind off it. I don't think that I was aroused by anyone or thing in paticular, it just sort of came up.
florida-david
04-01-2003, 11:26 AM
actually, aaron, i noticed your california erection here in florida, and boy was i disturbed....
just kidding!!! /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Nekkidfireman
04-01-2003, 05:55 PM
I have often wondered about this problem also, as I have yet to go to a naturist resort. Now I am thinking about being a privet nudist. I have been somewhere where clothing was optional and I did not have that problem, yet..
After viewing some of the other postings, I now wonder how prejudiced people really are. Let me explan,,, on another post the guestion was asked about being 'fat' and nude.
One of the replies,was, 'you are not judged for your shape, but if you are single...' So what is this now.
I am not married, but I have a girlfriend, and we have been together (not even in the same hose) and we have gone skinnydipping togerther and talk about retiring to a farm or ranch in another state where we can live nude.
So what does this make me? or you for how you "Judge" people. /infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif
EricNY
04-01-2003, 11:42 PM
Nekkidfireman:
First of all welcome to INA /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> One of the replies,was, 'you are not judged for your shape, but if you are single...' So what is this now. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>This is a little misleading, this comment comes from the fact that there is a lot of controversy,over the fact that many resorts and clubs have ratios in tact to limit the amount of single men allowed to join. From what I understand this policy is more relaxed than it used to be, but still does exist in many nudist orginizations. There is a lot of disagreement with this practice.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> So what does this make me? or you for how you "Judge" people. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>As far as I am concerned, at this point it makes you not judged at all and welcome.
enjoy
From what I've learned in my two years in social nudism, many nudist clubs and resorts outright reject anyone who comes there alone--even if you're married. In fact, married men who go alone are even more suspect than a single man alone.
I used to think it was just men who go alone who were rejected, but I've learned that even women are being rejected when they're suddenly widowed or divorced. All of a sudden they're not wanted there any more even if they have a home in the resort.
If you're unmarred but have a boyfriend or girlfriend with you, somehow that makes you more "respectable" just as being married magically turns a single person who isn't trusted into a very respectable person. Places that won't let me in because I'm no longer married would gladly welcome me if I got married and brought my wife. Does being married and bringing one's wife make a man a better person than he was when he was single? Does a "pervert", as all unmarried people are obviously believed to be, magically become a saint because of getting married?
What is there about that ring on the finger and that piece of paper that says you're married that suddenly turns an untrustworthy person into a man or woman of virtue? /infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif
Dale B
04-02-2003, 11:19 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jon-Marc:
What is there about that ring on the finger and that piece of paper that says you're married that suddenly turns an untrustworthy person into a man or woman of virtue? /infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Jon-Marc:
I agree and am equally curious about anyone's answer to your question.
krlough
04-02-2003, 07:25 PM
I find myself mostly agreeing with Angel.Seems there are a lot of views and opinions here that one would expect from people who believe in perpetuating body shame.The lad in question was just walking along the beach experiencing his new found freedom.He wasn't gawking,stroking his penis,or making gestures towards this person walking the other direction.Erections,be they of the penis,clitoris,or nipples,are natural.Let's not say one thing to the "textiles",while saying another to our own.
Kevin
coaxtrump
04-02-2003, 10:54 PM
I was at nearby nude beach (Maslins)
There was this fellow lying in the sand some distance away. Presently he stood up, and in ungainly manner made his way toward the water. I could see his woody, more than a foot long. I was more jealous than offended.
But as I approached I realized he had actually left his woody on the beach, his wooden leg below the knee!
bigbird
04-05-2003, 09:15 PM
"what happens when men get erections?"
Bands of old ladies, wielding sickles, patrol the beach, waiting for signs of arousal. Upon seeing such a display, they strike!
Beware fellow male nudists, especially the "quick-drawing" teenagers, you never know when they may pounce!
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Seriously, it's only a big deal when you make it a big deal. Of course, thinking about it only makes it worse.
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SUNLUVR
04-26-2003, 09:50 PM
Is it meaningful to discuss the meaning of an erection? Possibly, if the intent is to make it go away, be it yours or someone elses'. Is it helpful to consider the circumstances surrounding an erection to determine if it is a proper or improper one? Does a man with an improper erection really care?
Should we impune meaning on the length and hardness of a man's penis. Should we take a vote to determine if we like it or not? Then does that democratic process also determine the value of the man himself? Is a man with an erect penis to be viewed as a potential rapest or child molestor? Help me aviod the inevitable Judgement Day when I too must run from my friends and plunge into icy waters.
"Obnoxious men with obnoxious penises please stay home" might be the new banner for some Feminist men and women nudists. If erections are to be the subject of public nudist policy, you will have to excuse my speaking politics, and my trying to be useful.
In that regard (Politics), the issue of taxes naturally arises (no pun). We are not truly politically organized without addressing taxation. It is submitted that, if nudists are ever to be organized, this may be the starting place. This is just a suggestion. I know the concept needs a lot of work, but here goes.
Establish Nudist Police. I know, "Where do we pin the badges?" is the first question , but bare with me. In accordance with a predetermined set of codes, call them the "Penile Codes", sworn nudist Deputies shall be granted the authority to issue citations for up to $500.00, to any male caught with an obvious erection.
Now, if a penis could think, it might call this "taxation without representation"; however, if one got a good lawyer, we might admittedly have some problems. these and other problems could be considered through the auspices of duly appointed committies on penile erections, Judges, Nudist Court e,t,c. These and much more could be funded through the citations for violation of the penile codes.
Of course much more study needs to be done. No one person could possibly get the thing up and running, so to speak. Your input so far has been interesting, but I fear it leaves much to be desired for one who wants to be politically correct when erect.
Niki23
04-27-2003, 09:12 AM
That's a good explanation.
Well I sometimes get one when I'm nude, but I hide it when there's people around until it goes away. This topic seems never ending.
Chris N
05-03-2003, 04:10 PM
I agree. I cover also when I get one. Most of the times. Once I slept in a sauna and I got an erection.
The latest time, I was showering and washing my hair. I didn't hear my sister (21) came in. We are comfortable to each other nude, but never with an erection. Now she came fully naked with me showering. She look to my body. I wasn't finished yet. I made my excuses, but she said she doesn't matter. It was very natural between brother and sister.
Stuffed Tiger
05-04-2003, 04:58 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by one2345654321:
what happens when men get erections?
I was just walking on a nude beach and a nude lady was walking 20 feet away in my direction it was my first time nude so i get stimulated. I had a big obvious erection, and as I walked by the lady she gave me a real dirty look. WHAT DO U DO WHEN U GET ONE? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>You have an absolute right to how your natural body and its functions are interpreted by others. In the absence of behavior indicating intent, the presumption should be neutral.
OTOH, don't you think the woman has the same absolute right as you do to determine the meaning of her natural body, including her facial expression? Didn't you presume something negative about her thoughts towards you? Maybe if you had just said, "Hello, sorry if I am offending you, I'm new at this." you might have made a friend instead of getting yourself upset.
The point is that although we have an absolute right to determine the meaning of our natural bodies, how we communicate that meaning matters. Non-verbal communication is important. If you walk towards a women, get an erection and still continue walking toward her, she has every reason to wonder if you are sending a strong non-verbal communication that you are interested in having sex with her just because she is naked. You have no right to presume that of her.
If you sit down or go in the water or cover up with a towel or just stand facing away, then you are sending a strong non-verbal communication that your erection is not intended to infringe on her right to determine the meaning of her own naked body, and that you recognize her rights.
You could also communicate your intent by verbal means. Verbal communication is the best, but if there are many people around, may be impractical. The use of a towel to cover up is not out of shame, but to clearly communicate intent.
Communication is the issue because other people have the right to not have their nakedness taken in a sexual way by you. That is why an erection during exertion or during sleep or sitting in a hot tub or taking a shower should not be offensive and normally is not, but walking around with one, in the absence of communication to the contrary such as a towel, might well be communicating "flaunting" and be offensive.
chuckster
05-14-2003, 12:15 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by GalSurfer:
Forgot one thing. One of you brilliant minds out there tell me how erect nipples has any possible correlation to an erect penis. Since we both have nipples and we both get erections, it doesn't seem to be particularly pertinent.
My husband tells me the only time he notices erect nipples is when they're wearing a t-shirt and no bra. When you're totally nude, you just don't notice it.
So -- you male geniuses -- tell me now, what is the correlation??? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
chuckster
05-14-2003, 12:17 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by chuckster:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by GalSurfer:
Forgot one thing. One of you brilliant minds out there tell me how erect nipples has any possible correlation to an erect penis. Since we both have nipples and we both get erections, it doesn't seem to be particularly pertinent.
My husband tells me the only time he notices erect nipples is when they're wearing a t-shirt and no bra. When you're totally nude, you just don't notice it.
So -- you male geniuses -- tell me now, what is the correlation??? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Nude Master
05-14-2003, 12:22 PM
I am only 12 and I have many erections in a day.
chuckster
05-14-2003, 12:41 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by chuckster:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by chuckster:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by GalSurfer:
Forgot one thing. One of you brilliant minds out there tell me how erect nipples has any possible correlation to an erect penis. Since we both have nipples and we both get erections, it doesn't seem to be particularly pertinent.
My husband tells me the only time he notices erect nipples is when they're wearing a t-shirt and no bra. When you're totally nude, you just don't notice it.
So -- you male geniuses -- tell me now, what is the correlation??? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I'm new here but I would like to interject a thought to this subject. (please excuse my spelling)Maybe I have the wrong slant to all this but here goes anyway. Nudism is supposed to be an acceptance of the naked body.Right? Doesn't that include it's natural functions that God created in us? Aren't they a part of nature? What is all the Hulla baloo about them? The diff or I should say the way they are expressed or should say flaunted is the issue. Erections and hard nipples(male or female)are natural functions and not controllable. So what is the problem? What I see is beauty in nature( not porn either)Have you ever watched a woman breast feed a child? To me that is beauty! A god given function. Hard nipples on a man or women is beauty. I won't go there for erections.LOL. But the reallity of it all is it is all natural and should be accepted as just that. cdr2437
Chuckster,
Oops! You're responding to a post which is over a year old and written by someone who has since been banned from this board.
Rik
Nude Master
05-14-2003, 01:22 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by one2345654321:
what happens when men get erections?
I was just walking on a nude beach and a nude lady was walking 20 feet away in my direction it was my first time nude so i get stimulated. I had a big obvious erection, and as I walked by the lady she gave me a real dirty look. WHAT DO U DO WHEN U GET ONE? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>You might want to cover up or go into the water, not cause something's wrong but because non nudists are unfamiliar with this and will stare
Nude Master
05-14-2003, 02:19 PM
I always get erections when I am naked, not naked but see someone pretty, see someone naked, or just get erections for no reason. How can I stop these, all other nudists stare at me when this happens which is basically all the time. How can I stop?
Nude Master
05-14-2003, 02:19 PM
I always get erections when I am naked, not naked but see someone pretty, see someone naked, or just get erections for no reason. How can I stop these, all other nudists stare at me when this happens which is basically all the time. How can I stop?
Perhaps if you just stopped talking about your ****ing erections they might go away!
Rik
Snoboy
05-14-2003, 02:37 PM
Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Not only a hardon but a hardhead. /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif
Fresh Air
05-14-2003, 03:58 PM
Nude Master,
If you don't mind me asking, how old are you? I could be wrong, but I'm assuming your on the younger side of the spectrum. Which would be good, it's nice to be able to ask questions and get answers.
When I was younger (I'm 28 now), I wasn't a nudist, but I did share in the frequent errection phenomenon that I think most guys go through. Not being a nudist, it was never a problem. But I was definately able to be aroused by the simplest of things.
As you grow older, the frequency declines some...you do have a little more control. In addition visual cues are not as potent.
My advice would be to not worry about it and cover up when it happens. However, there are other means, which are not advicable, but may work.
My last girlfriend (who is not my wife) and I both abstained till marrige. We would, however, sometimes sepend time nude together indoors. I didn't have a problem getting an erection in front of her, but often thought it safer if they would be less frequent and my sex drive slightly weaker.
Anyhow, what I sometimes did, and the other less practical option is to take care of yourself before, like in the morning. While it will not eliminate normal erection functions it, for me, at least slowed them down. The way the reproductive physiology of the man works ties into why this happens, and it's results may vary witht he individual.
PS. I was born and raised in Orlando, FL /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Fresh Air
shãybare
05-14-2003, 04:12 PM
chuckster,
Alot of things are natural but just because it happens to be a natural occurence doesn't mean it should be done in public view. Doing number "2" is something that occurs "naturally" but I don't think you are suggesting people do that in public are you?
Forever Nude,
Shaybare /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif
Fresh Air
05-14-2003, 04:18 PM
Nude Master,
I just read in another post that you are 12. In that case, perhaps you should talk to your mother or father about this. Especially your father.
Fresh Air
Bob S.
05-14-2003, 07:18 PM
You are young and virile. Your body is being flooded with hormones that are wreaking havoc with all of your organs and muscles.
You are also at the age where you are prone to extremes in language. You do not ALWAYS get erections. You SOMETIMES get one. And I assume that it will last for a couple of minutes before retreating. First, you need to ignore them. If you are anxious when you start to get one, it may only make it worse as anxiety causes an oncrease in blood pressure, which is the cause of erections.
Second, if youy are naked and get one, especially around others, throw a towel around your waist or do something else to hide it. If you are near some water, go in. Shrinkage will occur in colder water. Note, hot tubs will not help.
Basically what I am saying is to accept that you will have one every once in a while. You cannot stop it, nor should you. It is a normal reaction of the male. And as Fresh Air suggeted, if you have more questions, ask your father.
Bob S.
Maybe the boy can't ask his dad, or he may be uncomfortable talking face to face about the changes in his body. I had no relatiohship with my dad and couldn't talk to him. Perhaps he feels more comfortable asking questions here. I know I would if I was his age. Not all parents are comfortable talking about the body, puberty and the body changes that take place at that time.
Croydon
05-14-2003, 08:45 PM
He is not 12. A 12 y/o wouldn't be on a nudist site asking these Qs. Nude Master is some guy with too much time on his hands. So far, he has already started 3 threads. One was a poll for women only asking how big they like men to be, another about how his nipples get hard, this one about errections. Also, he has posted a couple of messages about how big his penis is and how much he likes to brag about it to his friends. It is so obvious this person has too much time on their hands and looking for a sexual thrill in a nudist website. It is not some 12 y.o. I don't know many 12 y/o who even realize their nipples get errected or would bother going online talking about how big they are. Nor do I know any 12 y/o who care to ask women how big they like penises to be
NakedGary
05-14-2003, 10:38 PM
Stop being a nudist.....Simple
NakedGary
05-14-2003, 10:40 PM
use it as a towel rack!
nudeM
05-15-2003, 06:16 AM
Look at Nude Masters' profile and you will notice that his birthyear is listed as 1990. That will make him 13 years old. I agree, this individual is using this site as a thrill i.e., large penis', erect penis' and nippples, etc. I seriously doubt that he has lived out the life that he has posted he has, but many of his questions have been asked by older members as well. I say, lets give the benefit of the doubt (for now) and continue answering his questions he poses. Hopefully he'll get this nudist thing down to the point that he will be accepted by us forum users. ARE YOU LISTENING NUDE MASTER? /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
Croydon
05-15-2003, 06:23 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by nudeM:
Look at Nude Masters' profile and you will notice that his birthyear is listed as 1990. That will make him 13 years old. I agree, this individual is using this site as a thrill i.e., large penis', erect penis' and nippples, etc. I seriously doubt that he has lived out the life that he has posted he has, but many of his questions have been asked by older members as well. I say, lets give the benefit of the doubt (for now) and continue answering his questions he poses. Hopefully he'll get this nudist thing down to the point that he will be accepted by us forum users. ARE YOU LISTENING NUDE MASTER? /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Why bother wasting time on him or validating. Just b/c he has 1990 as his birthdate doesn't mean anything. For all we know, he could be some 40 y.o. guy disgusing as a 13 y/o...My profile says I was born in 1981, there's a chance I can be some 40 y.o (i am not).
Croydon
05-15-2003, 06:24 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by nudeM:
Look at Nude Masters' profile and you will notice that his birthyear is listed as 1990. That will make him 13 years old. I agree, this individual is using this site as a thrill i.e., large penis', erect penis' and nippples, etc. I seriously doubt that he has lived out the life that he has posted he has, but many of his questions have been asked by older members as well. I say, lets give the benefit of the doubt (for now) and continue answering his questions he poses. Hopefully he'll get this nudist thing down to the point that he will be accepted by us forum users. ARE YOU LISTENING NUDE MASTER? /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Why bother wasting time on him or validating. Just b/c he has 1990 as his birthdate doesn't mean anything. For all we know, he could be some 40 y.o. guy disgusing as a 13 y/o...My profile says I was born in 1981, there's a chance I can be some 40 y.o (i am not). Even three of his posts were already deleted by the administraters; first his poll asking women if they like big penis, one post where he bragged about how big his penis is, and another post in which he tells people that women like big penis only
Snoboy
05-15-2003, 09:18 AM
The primary reason for not permiting Nude Master to participate in the Forum is the possibility that he is doing so with out the permission of his parents or guardians. I do not believe that it is wise to discuss any of these areas with a minor child. It is one thing when someone says they are adult and clearly another matter, when the individual says clearly that he/she is a "minor child." Jon-Marc has a beautiful way of seeing things, but in the real world, its best not to contribute to a minor's curiosity in our forum or anywhere else for that matter, without the express permission of his parents. Liability issues are called into question and it would be in the best interest of all concerned to avoid any further communication with the individual.
dancin\'bare
05-15-2003, 09:39 AM
Question for the Administator;
Could there be any legal ramifications,and if so could anyone be held accountable?
NakedGary
05-15-2003, 10:17 AM
Every male has a penis, No big Deal!
It's Flacid or relaxed 99.86% of the time.
It's Errect or semi arroused only .14% of time.
So what's all this talk and fantasizing about other nudists penises relaxed, flacid size 99.86% of the time?
Nudist don't care about other peoples penises.
If your penis works for utility and function, just mind your own business, and never mind about others. If not, Seek professional help.
nude in wpg
05-17-2003, 02:18 PM
in referal to my post in first times when i was walking down the beach i did get an erection for a few mins. Now i left my towel with my stuff (which at this time was about a quarter-mile away) and the tide was really low and was about 50 yards or so away to be deep enough for me to hide myself. Now what i did was i just kept on walking but looked people in the eye and said "hello" or "good morning". they still gave funny looks. now what i did in the circumstance would that be considered proper etiquette or no? I know for next time to take my towel with me or try and stay closer to the water.
Les.
Jochanaan
05-17-2003, 10:32 PM
To any who, like I, are just catching up on this thread and have recently found Mountainman's comments about masturbation, I would merely comment that I have found no mention of the subject in the Bible--and I've looked.
Some may wonder about "the sin of Onan," who "spilled his seed on the ground." (Genesis 38:8-10) First, what Onan did was not masturbation but coitus interruptus, a form of birth control. Second, Onan's sin was jealousy of his brother's name. For more information on that tangle, read Deuteronomy 25:5-10 (the law of the kinsman-redeemer). So much for "the sin of Onan."
Trailscout
05-18-2003, 08:49 AM
Jochanaan,
Mountainman was a very conservative Catholic and basically spouted the party line that any sexual activity that does not lead to conception is sinful. (Of course most Christians do not believe that). Masturbation is way off topic here, so I will not discuss it further.
Mountainman and his wife were both active in this forum but were the instigators of a lot of personal verbal attacks and were banned from INA's forum.
This is only an explanatory segueway and I hope won't be the beginning of a long off-topic rabbit trail.
Then again, there's nothing I would like better than to hijack another one of these damned erection threads.
If I can predict the next thread, "is it okay to fart at nudist venues?"
We will have infinite discussions on farting underwater, in open air by the pool, at the beach, when no one can hear you. Then the philosophical debate about accidental farts vs. attack farts.
Lest I spend too much time farting with this subject, my point is: erections, like farts are unwelcome in public even at nudist venues. Accidents happen, and no one likes them, but most of us are too polite to tell you how offensive we find it. Whether you are doing it because the breeze aroused you or because you are trying to seduce me or my family, we don't know and we don't like it.
If you are a teen or a newbie guy don't be embarassed, just cover it, jump in the pool or step out of the public eye. If you can't hide it, at least stammer out an apology. "sorry" or "excuse me" is good enough.
I know that the ones who like strutting around like peacocks are going to have a hissy fit and post rebuttals. Tough! It's about time someone taught you some manners and you know who you are.
Raised_by_She-Wolf
05-18-2003, 12:19 PM
Here's an idea...
Next time you're at a nudist place, men, wear a microwave on your head attached to a battery strapped on your back, and always have it going, cooking something. I guarantee that nobody will be noticing if you're getting an erection. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
stevenf64
05-18-2003, 12:51 PM
I like the tread you suggest.....
If only two people are in an elevator and one farts they both now who it was.... /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif
I think that accidental farts are ok but attack farts should be saved for long car rides...
GF do fish fart??? /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
is that how they propell thru the water...
If you fart in a jakuzzi would anyone know???
Does pull my finger work at a leprosy colony???
Will you really explode if you hold it in???
AND lastly were we all really stupid enough at one time or another to think that lighting farts was a GOOD idea??? /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
yes i remember being that drunk once...
OH i forgot one why do women deny farting while men will claim a really good one????
Steve /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
ever sat nude and farted in a leather chair /infopop/emoticons/icon_redface.gif
Trailscout and steve....thanks for the best laugh I've had in a long time! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Now quit farting around...this is a serious topic on erections. /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif lol
missouriboy
05-19-2003, 02:36 AM
Yeah! Erections:The Fun of Nude Recreation!
Suntied
05-19-2003, 11:47 PM
Erections: The untold story about Fun and Nude Recreation... /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Once upon a time there was this guy that had a real problem with his penis becoming erect when it wasn't supposed to be. Well, after hiding it for years, he decided he should become a nudist where he could flaunt it when ever he wanted. However, the Wicked Witch of the Nudies said she would cast a spell on him if he dared to have an erection again. He did... and she did... and he invented Viagra. Now the poor boy has to take a pill so, he doesn't take it at the nudist resorts or beaches, only when he NEEDS IT! /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif
/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif Captain (restrained) Suntied /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif
fred950
05-21-2003, 06:42 PM
Trailscout, Mountainman Suntied and all the rest of the guys out there...as children didn't ANY of you ever play with a Gilbert ERECTOR set?
Trailscout
05-21-2003, 10:58 PM
Fred,
If you are offering us a graceful way out of an overworked topic, I am taking you up on it.
My brother and I enjoyed assembling those erector sets and my nephew enjoys a similar set today.
Times have changed and my niece is also interested in this toy and her mother has not discouraged her.
Whew! We finally found a way to stay on topic and leave it at the same time. Thanks, pal!
Paul1964
06-16-2003, 01:14 PM
Hello all. I have been having some nudist experiences recently, after a friend conviced me that it was good. Actually I agree, because I really enjoy the feeling to be naked in the nature. I really feel part of it. But unfortunately I have a problem and I would like to ask your vision about.
Sometimes, when I'm naked, especially if I'm tanning and I'm very relaxed, I can have erections that I cannot control. Obviously I get very embarassed about it, and I'm scared that this may create serious problems.
How is an erection considered by other nudists that may see it ?
I'm sorry for the strange question, but this is a problem I have, and I'd like to know what the rules are, to avoid problems, even if involuntary.
Thanks !
Paul1964
06-16-2003, 01:14 PM
Hello all. I have been having some nudist experiences recently, after a friend conviced me that it was good. Actually I agree, because I really enjoy the feeling to be naked in the nature. I really feel part of it. But unfortunately I have a problem and I would like to ask your vision about.
Sometimes, when I'm naked, especially if I'm tanning and I'm very relaxed, I can have erections that I cannot control. Obviously I get very embarassed about it, and I'm scared that this may create serious problems.
How is an erection considered by other nudists that may see it ?
I'm sorry for the strange question, but this is a problem I have, and I'd like to know what the rules are, to avoid problems, even if involuntary.
Thanks !
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