Morning Boners!

[JD Rocks]

When you go to sleep naked do you wake up and get a boner? I do!

[JD Rocks]

When you go to sleep naked do you wake up and get a boner? I do!

[PascoDoug]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JD Rocks:
When you go to sleep naked do you wake up and get a boner? I do! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Alot of guys do.. but sleeping naked has nothing to do with it.

[DoctorSurferDude]

Nearly all males could make that claim.

It is a secondary physiological response to a hormonal cycle and not a sexualy induced erection...it's kind of tied into the same reason that we wake up in the morning at all, or the reason we go to bed at night. Part of waking up is re-establishing blood pressures, when your body does this there are blood flow changes, and erections can and do occur. The peak of the cortisol cycle is just before waking.

Here's some keywords to Google: Cortisol, REM, morning erection, sleep cycles, waking

[Naturist Mark]

It has nothing to do with sleeping naked.

It is very common for men to wake up with a morning "urinary" erection - this is not sexual in any way, it is the result of pressure on the prostate gland from a full bladder. The erection usually subsides after sitting up for a short time - presumedly in this position the prostate is less "pressured" by the full bladder. If not, a towel will get you safely to a commode (or bush) if you are in a situation where you don't wish to be exposed.

-Mark

[Naturist Mark]

OK, looks like the doc and I have competing theories. I bow to his medical expertise (but I still suspect a full bladder is the culprit http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif)

-Mark

Hmmm?...I thought it was supposed to be normal and healthy for males to have several erections during a nights sleep..not just when waking or when a bladder is full?...sometimes accompanied by nocturnal emmissions (wet dreams)

[need2Bnude]

Yep I get'em every morning without fail. And thanks to DoctorSurferDude, I now know why. and here I thought I was overly wierd. http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[nudenwv]

oh yes! great way to start the day. http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[PascoDoug]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Naturist Mark:
OK, looks like the doc and I have competing theories. I bow to his medical expertise (but I still suspect a full bladder is the culprit http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif)

-Mark </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Mark,

I always thought it was (sometimes anyway) caused by a full bladder as well, to prevent uhhh "pissing oneself" during sleep. During a full erection, urine cannot flow through the penis (built in safety measure).

[DoctorSurferDude]

It's quite fascinating how we are creatures of cycles....and it sounds earthy, but we are very tied into nature.

The sun rises and sets....and we rise and sleep. The pattern of melatonin release is actually in direct response to sunlight. This pattern is established early and is known as circadian rhythm (sleep/wake cycle). It is also linked up with pituitary release of hormones, most specifically the cyclical hormone in charge of all else, Cortisol. Cortisol controls thyroid hormones, which dictates metabolism and hunger patterns. It controls sex hormones, which controls ovulation and maintainance of genital functions. It sends signals to the adrenal gland which in turn releases more hormones that help control blood pressure, heart rate, breathing, etc (which change when we awaken). Experiments where subjects lived isolated from day/night patterns demonstrated messed up sleep patterns, messed up eating patterns, agitation, and major depression. This cycle is the cornerstone of life as we know it.

There is a second part to the equation which I did't mention before. That's REM sleep. There's different phases of sleep...1,2,3,4 and REM. Erections occur a few times during the night, during REM sleep. There is this thing called "sexual awakening" which is a hormonal awakening that ushers in puberty (but occurs long before you can see any changes). This hormonal awakening occurs ALWAYS at night, and if I remember correctly during REM sleep. So undoubtably REM is also linked up with the rhythms of this hormonal symphony of life and associated with these non-sexual erections. In that experiment of no exposure to day/night cycles REM patterns ended up becoming all frazzled and unpredictable too.

The universe is like one giant clock, we hvae seasons, we have tides, sunlight marks the days, moonlight marks the night, our brains follow in suit, and command our bodies to join in the dance. It's really almost predictable...yet utterly fascinating!

http://www.corcept.com/graphics/cortisol-normal.jpg

http://www.kalmssleep.com/Images/SleepCycleGraph.gif

I hope that's not overkill....I just think it's amazing.

[DoctorSurferDude]

It is true...during a full erection you cannot pee. But with these morning erections, you kind of CAN, like if you sort of bend over...hehe. That's one easy difference to establish that these morning woodies are not the same as a sexually motivated erection. It's a non-sexual erection... unless there were "other factors".

If a full bladder caused an erection, then we would be in trouble throughout the day, or on long trips.

Older fellows often get prostate enlargement, which causes a back up of pressure into the bladder and can lead to incontinence. This prostate enlargement is also associated with decreased ability to get and maintain an erection. In it's healthy state it stores fluid that helps with ejaculation and swells (at the right time) during sexual arousal to keep the pee back in the bladder, since pee mixing with sperm would kill the sperm.

[slo]

Quite frankly, I wake up with a welcome addition every morning and relish the feeling before it ebbs. However, I attribute it to being related to the early morning Rooster who wants me to rise with the rising sun.

SLO

[fredm74]

It happens all the time. It's part of being a male. It's healthy and quite natural. It's unfortunate society feels that erections are something dirty and implies sex which most of time it has nothing to do with sex or being nude..........


-Fred



<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by slo:
Quite frankly, I wake up with a welcome addition every morning and relish the feeling before it ebbs. However, I attribute it to being related to the early morning Rooster who wants me to rise with the rising sun.

SLO </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

[DoctorSurferDude]

It is true that morning erections are usually NON-SEXUAL in nature. Linked to REM and Cortisol cycles.

Mid-day erections are usually SEXUAL, society usually encounters those and thus the "dirty" connotation.

Erections displayed on a beach is never ok and should not be accepted. Sunshine, sand, and water doesn't cause an erection http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[fredm74]

DoctorSurferDude, I didn't mean to suggest that parading a full erection on a nude beach is acceptable. I find it unacceptable if it's flaunted deliberately in front of people. There is a time and place for that and a nude beach isn't that place.

I just think an erection in general is a natural part of the male human body. Being that our society finds an erection offensive (and sometimes it can be but not all the time) it also comes with responsibility and good judgement.......

-Fred


<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DoctorSurferDude:
It is true that morning erections are usually NON-SEXUAL in nature. Linked to REM and Cortisol cycles.

Mid-day erections are usually SEXUAL, society usually encounters those and thus the "dirty" connotation.

Erections displayed on a beach is never ok and should not be accepted. Sunshine, sand, and water doesn't cause an erection http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

[naturush]

Ahhh morning wood! http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

I remember boners! I used to get them! http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Rabid_Clam]

The very best thing that comes out of a penis are the wrinkels. Erections are normal and I find them to be most acceptable in nudist environments if not phsycally encouraged.

Morning wood is great! Just a normal event.

[puffledud]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Erections displayed on a beach is never ok </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
unless, of course, your cortisol levels are peaking and your in REM sleep. LOL http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[puffledud]

Typo Alert!

Sorr, but that should have been "you're in REM sleep"

[missouriboy]

Doc, I was aware of Circadian Rythm, and enjoyed your detailed description of it. Seems to me like we have it just because we live on Earth, and are adapted to its cycles. If we lived on a different planet, we would be adapted to whatever its cycle was... right?

I also recall reading of a related rythm about processing food, which was stated to be three 8-hour periods daily: ingestion, digestion, excretion. We are (1) hungry and eat during the day, (2) full and lethargic in the evening, and (3) get "night sweats" while sleeping, which is just a normal form of the body excreting waste through the skin. Could you comment on the veracity of this? Thanks!

[Naturist Mark]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DoctorSurferDude:

If a full bladder caused an erection, then we would be in trouble throughout the day, or on long trips. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ahhh, but thats why body position plays a role too. I've found urinary erections DO occur during waking hours if you are in an extended supine position (such as when driving a low slung sports car) for long periods with a full bladder. - Of course that begs the question whether driving a sports car with a full bladder is sexually stimulating.

Urinary erections eventually subside after assuming a vertical posture, even without emptying the bladder. But this could also be related to the fact that you are no longer sleeping when you go vertical. (More research is necessary - send money now!)

A doctor explained to me about bladder pressure on the prostate years ago. It was probably long before he ever heard about research into sleep rhythms and cortisol levels.

My experience has been that sleep erections come and go during the night, but those persistent morning erections are always accompanied by a full bladder.

The information available on the internet (which is of variable quality) supports both theories. The medical basis of erections connected to REM sleep is well established. The "full bladder" theory of "Pee erections" or "Morning Wood" is well represented, but not as rigorously researched. An intriguing speculation is that "morning wood" is intended to prevent urinary incontinence - that it is the body exploiting the fact that you cannot pee (or cannot easily pee) when you have a full erection - this prevents the release of urine from a full bladder during sleep.

-Mark

[Trailscout]

All erections are acceptable for most nudists, but badly managed erections are not.

Morning erections are typically seen by few or no people, a non-issue.

Volleyball erections vary from mild to hard-as-a-rock.

In cases of intense erection, the polite thing to do is step out of the game when you have the chance and give it a rest until the erection subsides.

There is a safety consideration, too. You could hurt yourself if you engage in intense sports with a full erection. Let it subside before getting back in the game.

[Danee]

Morning Erection purpose: To allow boys an extra minute of sleep in the morning as it will lead their way to the bathroom with their eyes shut. And yes, I see them from time to time and no, do not make any fun of it, but smile about something being normal, yet cute.

[Danee]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by outdoorbare:


Oh Oh!!..A female partner acknoledging a morning boner as cute could quickly lead to more than the nonsexual kind </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Umm..not sure what that means unfortunately!

[PascoDoug]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by outdoorbare:
How to explain? ...Hmmm...Censors dont seem to allow it http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_redface.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Uhhh yeah... no explanation is necessary.

She didn't say anything about being a partner.. she just said she had seen them on boys and it was cute.

Sorry if I misinterpreted Danees message

[Gothmog]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jason Lee:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Trailscout:
All erections are acceptable for most nudists, but badly managed erections are not.

Morning erections are typically seen by few or no people, a non-issue.

Volleyball erections vary from mild to hard-as-a-rock.

In cases of intense erection, the polite thing to do is step out of the game when you have the chance and give it a rest until the erection subsides.

There is a safety consideration, too. You could hurt yourself if you engage in intense sports with a full erection. Let it subside before getting back in the game. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

if I'm nude at a nudist beach/camp/resort.
how do I manage an erection if I get one ? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


You have 1000+ posts on this forum and you are asking that?
http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

[Ben_UK]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">remember boners! I used to get them! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

lol thats funny! http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Nowt worse when u wake up with a bit of the old "morning glory" and your dying for a pee, u sort of stand there in front of the toilet jiggling around waiting for it to go so that u can take a leak otherwise you'll end up looking like a fountain or something! http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[PascoDoug]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ben_UK:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">remember boners! I used to get them! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

lol thats funny! http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Nowt worse when u wake up with a bit of the old "morning glory" and your dying for a pee, u sort of stand there in front of the toilet jiggling around waiting for it to go so that u can take a leak otherwise you'll end up looking like a fountain or something! http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That, or you lean WAY forward with one hand on the wall behind the tank, and the other "helping" to get the correct angle http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Snoboy]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DoctorSurferDude:
Nearly all males could make that claim.

It is a secondary physiological response to a hormonal cycle and not a sexualy induced erection...it's kind of tied into the same reason that we wake up in the morning at all, or the reason we go to bed at night. Part of waking up is re-establishing blood pressures, when your body does this there are blood flow changes, and erections can and do occur. The peak of the cortisol cycle is just before waking.

Here's some keywords to Google: Cortisol, REM, morning erection, sleep cycles, waking </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks for the clinical explanation Doc. I always enjoy your comments. Hope you are having a terrific summer.

[Gothmog]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jason Lee:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BeachBare:
You have 1000+ posts on this forum and you are asking that?
http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I have NEVER visited a nudist camp or a nudist resort.

that is why I was asking that question. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

But having 1000+ posts under your belt, I'd think you've been on this forum long enough to have heard the question you asked answered a couple of dozen times at least.

Anyway the answer is - if you have an erection at a resort or beach, no one will likely care (or even notice) as long as you don't purposefully walk around putting it on display or touch it excessively.

[slo]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">

Mid-day erections are usually SEXUAL, society usually encounters those and thus the "dirty" connotation.

http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Doc dude:
I, for one, would relish a mid day pop-up even if it was in a social situation. I would take advantage of the textile niceities(sp) available to me and cover my current endowment, and observe to those who focused on my situation as it being nothing more than " things were looking up" sign. Nature is nature and men are men, it only become s obscene when one makes it obscene.

SLO is good and if its's up it's up and if it's down it's down, then each has a purpose Doc. If it's contribed then we are in a different discussion.

[DouglasG]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">That, or you lean WAY forward with one hand on the wall behind the tank, and the other "helping" to get the correct angle </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

& I thought I was the only one that did that ... phew!

Good to see sensible chat about this topic & thanks to Doc for being so informative. Hope I don't get old & lose all my body functions!!!

[PascoDoug]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jason Lee:
BeachBare

has a questionable profile. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

In what way?

I don't see anything in his/her profile that is questionable..

Not much there at all.

[nakednudists]

I will go with the "I got to piss" theory.

[Jason Lee]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BeachBare:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jason Lee:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Trailscout:
All erections are acceptable for most nudists, but badly managed erections are not.

Morning erections are typically seen by few or no people, a non-issue.

Volleyball erections vary from mild to hard-as-a-rock.

In cases of intense erection, the polite thing to do is step out of the game when you have the chance and give it a rest until the erection subsides.

There is a safety consideration, too. You could hurt yourself if you engage in intense sports with a full erection. Let it subside before getting back in the game. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

if I'm nude at a nudist beach/camp/resort.
how do I manage an erection if I get one ? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


You have 1000+ posts on this forum and you are asking that?
http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

BeachBare what is your point and problem ?

Beachbare I think your question is idiotic.
http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif the one about me having 1000 posts.

[dancin\'bare]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DouglasG:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">That, or you lean WAY forward with one hand on the wall behind the tank, and the other "helping" to get the correct angle </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

& I thought I was the only one that did that ... phew!

Good to see sensible chat about this topic & thanks to Doc for being so informative. Hope I don't get old & lose all my body functions!!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>



Hand stands are another alternative.lol.

[hm0504]

Thanks DoctorSurferDude for your excellent explanations.

Also in reference to Naturist Mark's point, I wonder if one is more likely to get a morning erection if one sleeps on one's back than, say, semi-curled on one's side. If so, maybe being on one's back causes urinary pressure to be stronger because one is stretched out more. Or maybe, one (particularly myself) sleeps better on my back, therefore longer, and therefore more urine builds up causing more urinary pressure.

As Naturist Mark suggests, this is a fascinating area of research!

[dancin\'bare]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Danee:
Morning Erection purpose: To allow boys an extra minute of sleep in the morning as it will lead their way to the bathroom with their eyes shut. And yes, I see them from time to time and no, do not make any fun of it, but smile about something being normal, yet cute. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Yea...If I could only train it to make a pot of coffee I'd have it made.

[OZJames]

Somebody said that if you are over 60 and get one you should not miss an opportunity to take advantage http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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[Captain Zen]

I do still enjoy getting hard any time of day or night. At over 60 it makes me proud to be still able to wield my love weapon. My Japanese Mikado teacher taught me to walk erect with an erect boner, with an elastic step, as if your shoe soles are extra soft rubber, hips forward and a smile on my face. Putting it straight up in the under pants when dressed and letting it be as a bowsprit on a sailing yacht when naked.
When you have it, show it and be proud to be an able means to procreate and help the race from dying out! Females in heat will lure a man like that away and help him to undo in less time it takes for the **** to crow three times.
Amen.