Swimwear's alternate universe

[Macanudist]

I was just browsing around the TERA website and fell into rabbit hole of sorts, emerging in an alternate universe where swimwear from the early 20th century somehow survived until today. Take a peek if you dare but leave a trail of breadcrumbs so you know how to get back!

Oh the humanity...

"Wholesome wear?" (http://www.wholesomewear.com/page-3.html)

[Macanudist]

I was just browsing around the TERA website and fell into rabbit hole of sorts, emerging in an alternate universe where swimwear from the early 20th century somehow survived until today. Take a peek if you dare but leave a trail of breadcrumbs so you know how to get back!

Oh the humanity...

"Wholesome wear?" (http://www.wholesomewear.com/page-3.html)

[barefischer]

Swim Wear Why ?
As i was driving to work this morning channel surfing the radio in my truck A DJ was commenting that he was going on a holiday, and while shopping yesterday for dork shorts. $80.00 a pair also he was talking to a lady who was purchasing a ladies suit for $120.00 ! Its great to be a nudist !

[Naturist Mark]

LOL. Wholesome Wear includes a line of 'slimming suits' that both conceal the body, and give the illusion of slimness.

So 'modesty' means to hide your body in shame. But also give the impression that it is 'hotter' than it really is. LOL

[MikeJB]

"LOL. Wholesome Wear includes a line of 'slimming suits' that both conceal the body, and give the illusion of slimness.

So 'modesty' means to hide your body in shame. But also give the impression that it is 'hotter' than it really is. LOL"


Umm yeah, how do you hide your body in shame but at the same time flaunt it and make it look hotter than it would if you were naked? I just dont get that. All I basically see in these swimsuits is the sign that "Hey I hate my body and im trying to cover it up because my body is too shameful to swim nude". This is just another example of how our society is jacked up and how us nudists gotta do something about it. The last thing we need is our younger generations of women running around in this outdated swimsuits and feeling shamed and sorry about themselves and their bodies. I mean if you really must cover up, wear a bikini or something but these suits are just WAY too excessive.

[NuTex]

When I showed my wife this she said, "Dear God! Are we back in the 19th century?" I couldn't have said it any better.
NuTex /infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

[NuTex]

I finally had to leave that page. I found it just depressing.
/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif NuTex

[Artie]

I had to see it to believe it. What a waste. I was a little supprised that there wern't any men's swimwear. I went to school with a girl that was a menber of the A.U. church. I don't remember what AU stood for but I do remember they had very strict dress codes for females. Once they joined the church, they had to wear dresses or skirts which were ankle length and they were not allowed to cut their hair. I think dogma like this gives Christians an undesireable image.
God is concerned with more than fashion.


Peace,
Artie

[Jochanaan]

You could drown in those suits! /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

[Jochanaan]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Artie:
I was a little supprised that there wern't any men's swimwear. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Good point, Artie! Don't men have to be "modest" too? /infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

Oh. I forgot. The standard men's wear these days is calf-length trunks whose crotch is at about knee level. But they still allow men to go topless! /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif Bare nipples! /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

[MikeJB]

I think those swimsuits and the people who make them are sexists because they are basically saying that women need to wear a dress basically into the pool in order to be modest but hey guys can still wear their baggy ganster shorts and nothing else and theyre fine somehow, I just dont get that. I think its a sexual/gender issue and its demeaning to women, not just the fact that they make young girls wear these things, but the fact that they seem to be saying that its good for women to cover up but not men. That makes me wonder if a bunch of guys made those things.

[Liberty]

The new "swimwear" seems to be designed for Amish people!

I grew up having issues with swimwear - it never fitted my body.

I have been to two social nude swims at a non-landed club and loved swimming in the nude! It was much easier to dry just my body.

The best swimwear is a birthday suit!

Liberty /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

[MikeJB]

The post by liberty explains exactly my point on wearing swimsuits, especially for girls. I mean why should girls have to waste so much time at the fricken mall tryin to find a swimsuit, trying to pick the right color, style, etc and the buying the darn thing and paying up to 50-100 dollars for the damned thing every summer as their bodies kept growing and then like have the thing not fit or be too clingy and not being able to take it back for a refund and being out of 100 bucks, I mean all this stress just seems like its unwarranted, why not just swim nude, the NATURAL way! That way, no looking in malls for hours for that perfect swimsuit and blowing money on a useless peice of fabric, im sure many struggling families *money wise* can relate to me on this issues, I mean parents have enough trouble just making sure theres food on the table for the ******* kids, they dont need to be wasting 50 bucks on some useless peice of cloth that serves absouletly NO PURPOSE and is just annoying and gets in the way, especially when they could be putting that money towards paying off their house, feeding their kids, paying that car insurance off or paying for tuiton in college, which is not cheap by any means. This just seems like a logical point to me. I think modesty has to do with your attitude, not the way you look, its what you do with your body that counts, not the body itself. I think those wholesomewear outfits are SHAMEFUL not MODEST and I bet those kids wont be having those big smirks on their faces when they are drowning and their parents have to pay their medical bills and other things just to ensure that they live, if they dont die from drowning in the first place.

[Artie]

Another great point by MikeJB,
I think clothes in genneral cost too much. I was doing some Christmas shopping today and almost fell over when I was charged $29 for two sports logo t-shirts for my brother. I havent bought any clothes in the mall (besides shoes) for years. Today was a reminder why. Since I do have to wear clothes in public I buy my clothes at Good Will and save a lot of money that way. As far as swim-clothes, the only pair of trunks I have were given to my by an old roomate in college. We wanted to go swiming at his girlfriends apartment complex and skinny dipping was not allowed.
Anymore, if I can't go some place an dswim nude, I would rather not go.

Artie

[NoodJuggler]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Macanudist:
I was just browsing around the TERA website and fell into rabbit hole of sorts, emerging in an alternate universe where swimwear from the early 20th century somehow survived until today. Take a peek if you dare but leave a trail of breadcrumbs so you know how to get back!

Oh the humanity...

"Wholesome wear?" (http://www.wholesomewear.com/page-3.html) <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Hi..What it is..These people know that some are complaining about the skimpy swimwear and they see DOLLAR signs. They can make some money off these gullible people and they are taking advantage of the opportunity. Did you notice the prices of this so call swim wear? Some people would buy a pile of cr*p if you're a good enough salesman. People who buy these for swimwear for their children are probably the same ones who claim to be christian but are molesting the little boys and girls while at the same time putting on a front of goody two shoes. these people think that your an evil person just because you show a little skin or enjoy nudity of some sort, where nudity is not the problem, the problem is this type of people who have warped views on nudity. Nudity is not the evil part. I also noticed that they have no way of contacting them except over the phone. Guess they are afraid to hear from anyone. I left a huge trail of bread crumbs but they will probably just pick them up following after me..People like this tick me off and to think that they are teaching their children this Idea. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Cheers..Keithmj

[soofreeemateomanian]

As a was sleeping peacefully one day,
a creaking noise entered the fray.
I saw a shadow on the floor,
a figure was opening my closet door!
A can of mace, a forty five,
is all I need to stay alive.
But just then I heard a curse
It was a clothes burglar in a nudist's house, what could be worse!
we laughed and laughed off our tops,
after he left I called the cops

[MikeJB]

Yes, it is a purely greedy money ploy when these people try to sell these swimwear outfits. I mean they go on and on about how modest they are but dont give any facts beyond that, I mean how are we supposed to know that kids will even like them and what I think is funny is how these people cant even make a decent website, just a couple paragraphs, a cheesy logo, a few pictures and a phone number. Hell I could make something like that on my computer for free. Also if I cant go swim someplace nude, then i wont go there, simple as that/

[Naturist Mark]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MikeJB:
Yes, it is a purely greedy money ploy when these people try to sell these swimwear outfits. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I don't know about greedy. They are charging the same for several square yards of fabric that bikini makers charge for 6 square inches plus dental floss.

If course these 'wholesome' hucksters are preying on body shame and mental illness.

-Mark

[MikeJB]

No, I meant that these people just want money. I dont honestly think they beleive or care about the fact that these things are modest, thats why they dont back up their opinion with facts, I just think they are out for money. If they really cared about starting some modesty activist sort of thing youd think youd hear more about these things than you do. I just think these people are preying on those who complain about the skimpy bikinis on beaches and the parents who dont want their kids wearing small bathing suits or seeing others in them or topless or naked. They think its an easy money grabber for them.

[Bob S.]

That cannot be called swimwear. No one in their right mind would everthink of trying to swim in that. Not that they could. I agree with Jochanaan that they could possibly hinder swimming in deeper water.

Bob S.

[MikeJB]

You think you could cite them legally for that, saying that their product endangeres the public and that they either get rid of it or have some sort of warning that these outfits are not meant for swimming in deep water. I think they wanna use them more for the beach than in the water but theyre designed for the water so they can serve both as swimsuits and regular clothing. Funny thing is most of the time people wear swimsuits they are in the water anyways and you cant see their bodies and even when they get out, most people on the beach just want to enjoy themselves and usually dont soak in their surroundings too much *thats why nudist resorts are better than nudist beaches, people are more talktive and friendly* so I mean I dont get the need for these dresses to be worn in the water. I just think there oughta be some sort of legal citation against these guys for having swimwear that is dangerous to the health of the customer. I mean im sure they could cite them for something.

[greensunshine]

Mike,

I have to disagree with you regarding nudist resorts, they are no safer than nudist beaches...if they were, I wouldn't have been a multiple rape victum/survivor at several of them, nor would I have encountered all the swinging that I had been a wittness to at the ones I visited.

Greensunshine in the Pacific NW /infopop/emoticons/icon_redface.gif

*** I would like to add a footnote to my above comment, nothing ever became of the persons who were quilty of their crimes...and in actuality, I feel much safer at the public nude beaches than I do at some so called nudist resort, because I have learned the hard way, some of the best protection has come from my Gay Male Friends down at the beach.

And to set the record straight, I am one of the very few females who is a regular on this BB ***

Greensunshine

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MikeJB:
Funny thing is most of the time people wear swimsuits they are in the water anyways and you cant see their bodies and even when they get out, most people on the beach just want to enjoy themselves and usually dont soak in their surroundings too much *thats why nudist resorts are better than nudist beaches, people are more talktive and friendly* so I mean I dont get the need for these dresses to be worn in the water. I just think there oughta be some sort of legal citation against these guys for having swimwear that is dangerous to the health of the customer. I mean im sure they could cite them for something. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

[MikeJB]

Well maybe that is just because the security is really lax at some of these nudist resorts and because some of the management doesnt have enough of a spine to kick these individuals out. The only reason I made that comment is because I heard alot of talk to the contrary, where nude beaches, especially the more unofficial ones are dirty, unclean and have little or no facilities, whereas most nudist resorts, especially the more official and nicer ones have great security and ive heard that the littlest thing can get you kicked out of some of them. So ive never really been to one myself but id just trust it alot more than a nudist beach and ive just read alot and im confident in what I say and im sorry about what happened to you and I hope that you have better luck in your future trips to nude beaches/resorts. There's always saftey in numbers.

[pahjo2]

i didn't spend much time at all on this website.
i found it to be very depressing and not at all my kind if life style. i personally think that the nude body is a work of art and very beautiful.sure we all get old and things are not as they used to be but that is life. besides you could drown in those things. you may have noticed i didn't call them swim suits.
stay nude and stay happy

[Jochanaan]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by pahjo2:
i didn't spend much time at all on this website. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I trust you don't mean this (INA) web site? /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[MikeJB]

I think he/she meant the "wholesomewear" website. I dont see any way how INA could be depressing and since he mentioned the swimsuits, it had to be the other website. I thought it was depressing too and it just didnt have anything special to even make anyone wanna buy these things. I mean at least if they genuinly thought this was a good thing for people, the least they couldve done was try better with their website.

[Fresh Air]

I have found that by respecting the beliefs of others you can earn respect for your own beliefs. It's true these suits seem over the line, but how do you think a textile feels about nudism? This is just the anti-nudist. As weird as it might seem it is their right (who ever they are) to feel this way.

They share views with nudists that we all can agree with. One should be able to choose and do what they see fit with their own bodies. In their case it is just covering it.

The only part that sadened me was that their was no male version of suit. Which seems to point to a culture of unequal rights. BUT, again, it may be a part of the belief system.

In any case, if we are to look at these people as evil or freaks, we can not expect to be observed as nudists by others any differently.

Fresh Air

[Rex]

Sometimes it's just a matter of what is appropriate for an activity.
No-one could compete in a swimming contest in these suits [unless every competitor is dressed the same, in which case there would have to be an equal number of lifeguards and if they were dressed the same, there would have to be double the number of etc etc].
If these people came up with an equivalent outfit for every other sport, then it would make an impossible mockery of almost every sporting activity.
About 40 years ago, spokesmen for the Catholic Church in Australia were demanding that Catholic beauty contest entrants not wear bikinis, but it did not do them any good.

[MikeJB]

Yeah wearing bikinis in a beauty contest would just show that it is sexual in nature because the bikini centers on certain parts, whereas if youre nude then youre all basically different and have a fair chance. I dont think beauty contests really show the true image on the nudist lifestyle because it isnt about someone's body, its about who they are inside.

[MikeJB]

I have found that by respecting the beliefs of others you can earn respect for your own beliefs. It's true these suits seem over the line, but how do you think a textile feels about nudism? This is just the anti-nudist. As weird as it might seem it is their right (who ever they are) to feel this way.

They share views with nudists that we all can agree with. One should be able to choose and do what they see fit with their own bodies. In their case it is just covering it.

The only part that sadened me was that their was no male version of suit. Which seems to point to a culture of unequal rights. BUT, again, it may be a part of the belief system.

In any case, if we are to look at these people as evil or freaks, we can not expect to be observed as nudists by others any differently.

Fresh Air

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Im sure people disagree with them more than thinking they are freaks. Everyone should have free speech and be able to do what they want with their own bodies as long as they dont cause serious offense or hurt anyone. The thing I dont like about these suits is that they make society go backwards and not forwards, we cant be going backwards we can only move fowards and to me that would be the complete acceptance of public nudity and the desexualization of it in the media. I think we really should do something to show the true facts about nudists and not let the media make a mockery of us by twisting our words and showing us in their opinion than in what we truly are. Besides these suits are just plain wrong and dangerous and if you can find sutiable proof that they cause health issues and cause kids to drown im sure you could ban them, freedom or not, theres no way id let a kid wear this thing if it meant they were gonna drown.

[Jochanaan]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MikeJB:
The thing I dont like about these suits is that they make society go backwards and not forwards, we cant be going backwards we can only move fowards... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>True. And there's also the matter of body oppression.

I remember one time the Nazarene church youth group I was involved with stopped at a lake in Kansas or Oklahoma on one of our tours. We were told we could not wear ordinary swimming suits but had to go more or less fully clothed! I have never had a more uncomfortable swim, even though I refused to wear a top. Totally unlike the utterly free feeling of swimming without any garments.