Disgraceful behaviour at Studland naturist beach

[MaxUK]

Yesterday I spent a few hours at Studland nude beach before having to go off to work at noon. I was there early with only a few others around when a single lady came and sat down a little behind me close to where the beach turned into sandy dunes. About 30 mins later a guy came wandering along, saw the lady and sat down about 10m away from her.

I was slumbering on my front but could see from time to time that he was definitely angling himself to get a good look at her lying on her towel - not a good start, but it gets far worse.

After trying to engage her in conversation, when she fell asleep with her hat over her head, this creep turned to face her and basically started touching himself whilst staring in her direction.

I only saw this when I raised my head from my towel and whilst he had his back turned to me, it was plainly obvious what his right hand was doing.

What to do?? I was disgusted by this perverts actions, so sat up, coughed and stared in his direction. He turned round, saw me glaring at him and stopped - only to start again a few minutes later!! Unbelievable!!

This time I got up and walked right over to where he was, on past and past the lady, up into the dunes. Then I turned and glared at him again. I could feel a confrontation coming on if he had started again after I went back to my towel, but the lady woke up, sensed he was trouble, packed up and left.

Sorry for the long post but this sort of behaviour really angers me and women should not to have to put up with total jerks like this on a nude beach. The fact is there are plenty of them and it makes me ashamed to be a guy at times.

The 'fun of nude recreation'? Not for that lady it wasn't.

Max

Hi Max. You're dead right. This idiot ought to have been locked up - if that behaviour doesn't constitute indecent exposure then I don't know what does.

Am I right in thinking that Studland Bay is owned by the National Trust?

Stu

[missouriboy]

There ya go, Stu! It's a good example of why 'indecent exposure' is a misnomer. It ought to be 'indecent behavior' instead. The indecency of this man's actions would be the same even if he happened to be fully clothed at the time, right?

[MaxUK]

Stu,

I couldn't believe what I was seeing - sad ba****ds like him do need locking up. As Missouri Boy so rightly said - it's all in the 'behaviour' that goes on, same as anywhere really.

Having said that, I am still not in favour of open public nudity being allowed anywhere, as I consider some locations to be appropriate for nudity, most others not so.

I guess I subscribe to the view of 'appropriate behaviour in appropriate places', not just to naturism but just about anything else. I feel my views on what's 'appropriate' or not are fairly relaxed, but are no doubt different (or more conservative) to some people, including a good number that post here.

Oh, and yes, Studland is owned by the Nat. trust but it seems they are trying to sqeeze the naturist zone into a smaller and smaller area, from what I read of the situation from the official studland naturist website:

www.studland-naturists.co.uk (http://www.studland-naturists.co.uk)

Max

[MaxNik]

other than doing what you did, there doesn't seem to be much more that could be done. there always will be creeps like this around so you have just illustrated a way to deal with them, without being confrontational...which could have resulted in a fight.

Missouri

"There ya go, Stu! It's a good example of why 'indecent exposure' is a misnomer. It ought to be 'indecent behavior' instead. The indecency of this man's actions would be the same even if he happened to be fully clothed at the time, right?"

Not under English Law. Here we have two statutory offences of indecent exposure, either of which would have sufficed in the circumstances Max describes. It is a pre-requisite of both, however, that the offender "exposes his person". Neither of these offences would be appropriate for a simple nudist even if he or she were in a public place. The appropriate charge for that would come under section 5 of the Public Order Act 1986 - "insulting behaviour likely to cause harassment, alarm or distress".

MaxUK

"I guess I subscribe to the view of 'appropriate behaviour in appropriate places', not just to naturism but just about anything else."

Me too!!!!

"Oh, and yes, Studland is owned by the Nat. trust but it seems they are trying to sqeeze the naturist zone into a smaller and smaller area"

Now the National Trust should be canvassed about that. There are precious few designated beauty spots for naturists in the UK as it is without reducing the places you guys can go still further. I hope there is a campaign to keep this place clothing optional. I'd sign a petition to that effect!

Stu

[Gary Naturist]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by missouriboy:
There ya go, Stu! It's a good example of why 'indecent exposure' is a misnomer. It ought to be 'indecent behavior' instead. The indecency of this man's actions would be the same even if he happened to be fully clothed at the time, right? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Missouriboy, I agree with you 100%. It's the behavior, not the clothing choice, that is indecent and that should be illegal.

Gary

[NUDKIWI]

These sorts of idiots get nude beaches closed.Max you done good in the way you dealt with the situation but i wonder if a direct confrontation would have ended in a fight.I believe if you had confronted this spineless sexually depraved excuse for a human being he would have turned tale and run ,hopefully with your boot up his backside.Get these sex fiends off our beaches and give them back to the sunlovers and families.Maybe a group of locals forming a beach warden group could be an idea.

[Prometheus]

It's easy to think what we would have done in that situation, but actually being there is another story. But I will say this:

MaxUK, there probably wasn't much more you could do by yourself. If you had walked straight up to the guy and told him to get lost, he might have fought back or at least started an argument. However, if there had been more than one of you, he probably would probably have left quickly.

[Fresh Air]

MaxUK,

I think you handled the situation well. I never thought the confrontation thing through, but I suppose it could result in a fight. Especially if the beach is secluded.

Mission accomplished, even though the results would have been better if the guy left, at least the sickness of it diffused.

Another good way I have seen it handled is by going to the woman being "violated" and inform her of her situation. This allows her to handle it how she sees fit and gives her an ally at the same time.

Fresh Air

[greensunshine]

Geez I deal with lots of these creaps every time I go to the beach on a nice day...seems the most effective tool I take with me when it comes time to take care of the situation is a Very Sharp Tongue...most of the time these jerks get the message and either leave the beach or simply go further down where they are in the company of others who too like to behave accordingly...

*Note many of my male friends down feel the same...nudity shouldn't mean the same as stupidity...as some of these creaps think when they get a little freedom down there (Greensunshine points to the part of the anatomy causing the problem).

Nothing can be so cutting as sharpe words nor more effective /infopop/emoticons/icon_redface.gif

Greensunshine in the Pacific NW /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Max did not do everything he could have. Max was very wrong for not calling the police.

Personally when I've been in similar situations I confront them once, tell them this isn't the place and tell them I will call the police if it continues. I also usually carry a camera. I tell them I've taken their picture and that the police will get it and that I will also post the pic on the Internet and expose him as a wanker.

If we let these guys get away with doing this on our nude beaches they will eventually be shut down. Protect your beach before it is too late.

The most sucessful nude beaches here in the US have people who defend them from the wankers. They form organizations and patrol the beach, reporting people who can't behave. South Floida Free Beaches is the most well known beach that does this. Because people know that behavior isn't tolerated in time they stop coming (and cumming).

[Jochanaan]

At first I thought, "First offense, warn him but don't call the police." But then I realized that it most likely wasn't the first offense at all, and even if it were, the man--and I use that term loosely--probably would simply go elsewhere to do his thing (no pun intended--yeah, right). Call the cops, by all means--phone, laptop, scream...

And if anyone wants to blame his penis, that's no good. I have one too, and it works just fine, but I don't do what he did, neither do an overwhelming majority of men. The trouble is in his mind, not his member.

[Prometheus]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by cyndiann:
Max did not do everything he could have. Max was very wrong for not calling the police. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I'm not familiar with UK beaches, but are there even any police to call? Is this an official c/o beach, or is it just one that exists because the authorities choose to ignore it completely?

If there are rangers or lifeguards around, I would be all in favor of calling them. In my experience, nude beaches are completely un-policed (except by the beach "mayor" and company), but I guess that isn't the case in other areas.

[Jochanaan]

BTW, does anyone know how Studland got its name? It seems this name would have an unwelcome connotation for naturists.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Prometheus:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by cyndiann:
Max did not do everything he could have. Max was very wrong for not calling the police. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I'm not familiar with UK beaches, but are there even any police to call? Is this an official c/o beach, or is it just one that exists because the authorities choose to ignore it completely?

If there are rangers or lifeguards around, I would be all in favor of calling them. In my experience, nude beaches are completely un-policed (except by the beach "mayor" and company), but I guess that isn't the case in other areas. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>So use a cellphone and call them in. They do have cellphones over there don't they?

[Rik]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by stu2630:
Now the National Trust should be canvassed about that. There are precious few designated beauty spots for naturists in the UK as it is without reducing the places you guys can go still further. I hope there is a campaign to keep this place clothing optional. I'd sign a petition to that effect! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Well Stu, here's your opportunity. Visit Studland United Nudists (http://www.studland-nudists.co.uk/) and join the campaign to "Help us STOP the Studland Cover-Up!".

You don't have to be a nudist to join: the web site clearly states "SUN membership is open to ALL - regardless of age, sex, orientation, colour, marital status or any other of the criteria used by the nudist "establishment" to exclude those who do not fit their own particular parameters."

So what are you waiting for?

Rik

Rik,

I'm not going to join, but I will send them a small financial donation. Additionally, I'll write a strongly-worded letter to the National Trust voicing my views that the site should be preserved as a clothing optional venue. I will be telling them that I speak as a non-naturist and someone who never uses that particular beach.

Will that do?

Stu

[Hooked]

Is castration a legal punishment in the UK ??? Maybe you should tell that guy that it is...he is probably stupid enough to believe you.

[The_Dude]

I wouldn't have reported it to the Police, because it would get plastered all over the news, and gave fuel to the people who wan't to close down nude beaches and resorts.

The second I saw his perverted behavior, I would have said something to him loudly enough for the woman to hear as well. He probably would have got up and ran away embarrased, as he appeared to be doing it covertly, without the woman knowing. If every time he tried to do this he was immediatly and strongly confronted, he would think twice about trying it again. If it led to a fight, so be it.

You can't rely on the Police to protect you every minute of the day, some times you have to stand up and do what is right yourself. If it leads to a fight, just make sure you don't take the first swing.

I would rather the Police and Media report about how a respectful nudist beat the crap out of a pervert while protecting a innocent woman from such lewd behavior, instead of the typical "Look what's going on at nude recreation areas" diatribe.

[Rik]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by stu2630:
Will that do? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Yep - very nicely. Now then what about a small donation to that other worthy cause, our good friend Steve? (No don't answer that!! /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif )

Rik

[AussieBeachBoy]

I just wanted to point out to people that Stu's attitude in this thread really justifies all those people who have argued that he shouldn't be banned from the boards. Stu's views don't always coincide with those of the majority but he is nevertheless a pretty intelligent bloke and has shown himself to be open-minded enough to listen and think. Good one, Stu. There are a lot of other posters that could well learn from your example!

[missouriboy]

What he said! /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[MaxUK]

Cyndianne, you posted:

Max did not do everything he could have. Max was very wrong for not calling the police.

Number one - Please don't go accusing me of being 'very wrong' in how I handled the situation - you know very little about the incident, save for what I've told you, which isn't much. I see your rash judgemental attitude is as sharp as ever.

So use a cellphone and call them in. They do have cellphones over there don't they?

Number two - it takes police in some parts of the UK half an hour or more to attend to a armed robbery Cyndianne!! What do you think I'd be told if I called them at approx. 9am on a Tuesday morning and said I was calling from a deserted Studland naturist beach (many miles from the nearest police station), reporting a guy for touching himself whilst sitting 10 meters from a sleeping naked lady - you go and work out what their response would have been!! The cops in the US may have jumped straight in their patrol car - but I very much doubt it.

I handled the incident well enough - the lady left for another part of the beach (I saw her again later), the creep left soon after and I avoided a direct confrontation, although he knew full well I was on his case and watching him closely for a while. Of course he shouldn't get away with it, but what was I supposed to do? Calling the police was just not an option.

Max