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[Shavedinohio]

I am new to this forum and was wondering if there are any nudists that body shave here?

[Shavedinohio]

I am new to this forum and was wondering if there are any nudists that body shave here?

[NakedGary]

Shavedinohio

The answer is YES.

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[Dave Shaver]

You didn't have to preface your question with the ' I am new to this forum ' because the question is old, therefore, anyone who asks the question is 'new'.

Gary's response was excellent!

I have no intention to demean your question.

I only felt a need to express frustration to the obvious.

[Zerokini]

I'm not, and I don't care much for it when I see it. I much prefer a very natural furry area where it belongs. It's just a preference, so don't anyone take it personally, but it has always seemed that people who shave their genitals look too much like juveniles to me. And unfortunately, there are many who want their partners, and sometimes others, to shave for that reason. I don't think the practice is healthy physically, and I don't think that desire is healthy psychologically or socially. YMMV.

[LamontCranston]

For the love of Pete, not another shaving thread... http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/freak.gif

Please realize that we value your opinion in all things -- and welcome to the forum we're glad you found us warts and all -- but also realize that a fascination with genitals does in fact drive women (people) away from this forum.

If you want more people of mixed genders and experiences to participate here, then write here as you would if you were speaking in person to a group.

There aren't any nude resorts that feature a group of guys sitting around the pool discussing shaving techniques.

Go look at Gary's links in the search engine, then come back and add if you must.

Just a thought.

[Zorro]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Zerokini:
It's just a preference, so don't anyone take it personally, but it has always seemed that people who shave their genitals look too much like juveniles to me. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Adults who shave look just as adult to me as those who don't shave. I've never mistaken an adult who shaves for a juvenile, and I've don't know anyone who has.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">And unfortunately, there are many who want their partners, and sometimes others, to shave for that reason. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Interesting claim. On what scientific/medical/psychological study do you base this conclusion?

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I don't think the practice is healthy physically... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I assume you believe that shaving one's beard, legs or underarms is equally unhealthy?

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">... and I don't think that desire is healthy psychologically or socially. YMMV. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Using that line of reasoning, I'd guess that a large percentage of the population is pretty unhealthy. What are you going to do about it?

[Zerokini]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Zorro:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Zerokini:
It's just a preference, so don't anyone take it personally, but it has always seemed that people who shave their genitals look too much like juveniles to me. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Adults who shave look just as adult to me as those who don't shave. I've never mistaken an adult who shaves for a juvenile, and I've don't know anyone who has. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Good for you. You don't have to treat an adult like a juvenile to perceive that the adult is trying to look like a juvenile, or to be attractive to someone who prefers juveniles. As I said, it is my preference to not associate with adults pretending to be juveniles (or vice-versa). I also asked that you not take my preferences personally, and obviously you did. I won't discuss the potential hidden meanings behind that, but you might consider them.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Zorro:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Zerokini:
And unfortunately, there are many who want their partners, and sometimes others, to shave for that reason. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Interesting claim. On what scientific/medical/psychological study do you base this conclusion? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Personal discussions with individuals who have expressed their preference for shaved partners, and who have inadvertently revealed an interest in juveniles in their comments -- with all kinds of "Of course I would never do anything like that ..." disclaimers after they realized what they said.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Zorro:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Zerokini:
I don't think the practice is healthy physically... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I assume you believe that shaving one's beard, legs or underarms is equally unhealthy? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Unhealthy to some extent, yes; equally no. With the exception of a beard, which is adjacent to a mouth equipped with its own microbial defenses, those areas aren't immediately adjacent to a body cavity, the interior of which is not protected by a thick layer of epidermis. Furthermore, those areas of body hair are not used as a dry lubricant during sexual intercourse, which helps prevent irritation and resulting infection.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Zorro:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Zerokini:
... and I don't think that desire is healthy psychologically or socially. YMMV. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Using that line of reasoning, I'd guess that a large percentage of the population is pretty unhealthy. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That is a given. Ask any public health professional.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Zorro:
What are you going to do about it? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nothing beyond what I just did -- express my preference, and the reasoning behind it. And you didn't like it. Well, as I said, "YMMV". For those who don't know, that means "Your mileage may vary."

[Zorro]

Pat answers for everything, I see, but I expected nothing less. I find attitudes like yours quite amusing.

[nudebushwalker]

Methinks "Zerokini" is writing a load of crap on this particular topic ...

[Zerokini]

I stated my preference under the current thread and I stated my reasons for it, which I think are more than sufficient -- and worth thinking about by others, or I wouldn't have bothered bucking the tide of the thread. But I always find there is at least one who takes offense, challenges, demands answers, and when he gets them -- politely, and stated with equanimity -- finds them too compelling to argue against and therefore finds a way to simply dismiss them.

Fine. I said, "Your mileage may vary", and yours obviously does. Enjoy your amusement, if you can.

[Zerokini]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by nudebushwalker:
Methinks "Zerokini" is writing a load of crap on this particular topic ... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well, now, of course you do, but you haven't come up with any reasons beyond a vague unwillingness to face the issues raised, have you?

In any event, it is a little more thought-provoking than an endless list of yowsa-yowsa to which no one has given any real consideration, isn't it?

[shaneone]

Zerokini,

I am an adult who has shaved for about 8 years. Personally, I find it more hygienic and during warm weather it is a lot less irritable when i am clothed.

My wife has never viewed this in any way as me trying to look like a juvenile. I do not impose on her to do the same, it is her body, if she does not want it shaved so be it.

I have no desire to make this in any way about sexual preferences of any kind, and neither did the author of the thread.

You claim not to want anyone to take this idea of your personally, but you seem extremely defensive about your view-point, and are not interested in the other side of the debate.

I shave, you don't.

Big deal!

[Zorro]

I asked this about Zerokini's bizarre implied assertion:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Zorro:
Interesting claim. On what scientific/medical/psychological study do you base this conclusion? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

To which he replied:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Zerokini:
Personal discussions with individuals who have expressed their preference for shaved partners, and who have inadvertently revealed an interest in juveniles in their comments -- with all kinds of "Of course I would never do anything like that ..." disclaimers after they realized what they said. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

In other words, and by his own admission, he's basing his strange idea about people who shave and those who like the look on personal conversations he's had (probably with only with a handful of people at that) and not on any sort of valid scientific study. And this is why no one is bothering to give any sort of "real consideration" to this. It appears the only one with an issue here is Zerokini.

I think we're all waiting for more than one person's highly subjective personal opinion. Where's that valid scientific study to support your conclusions?

[Zerokini]

Shaneone said:
Posted January 04, 2007 10:25 AM
Zerokini,

I am an adult who has shaved for about 8 years. Personally, I find it more hygienic and during warm weather it is a lot less irritable when i am clothed.

My wife has never viewed this in any way as me trying to look like a juvenile. I do not impose on her to do the same, it is her body, if she does not want it shaved so be it.

I have no desire to make this in any way about sexual preferences of any kind, and neither did the author of the thread.

You claim not to want anyone to take this idea of your personally, but you seem extremely defensive about your view-point, and are not interested in the other side of the debate.

I shave, you don't.

Big deal!
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I didn't hear any other side of the debate. I heard a challenge of the sort one encounters on the flamegroups, and I tried to respond with the information requested and I tried to respond with equanimity. I also tried to point out that it was my preference, but I knew that because I was bucking the tide on the thread, someone would claim an offense, and I asked that no one take it personally. Zorro did, Zorro challenged, and Zorro dismissed the freely-given answers provided. Don't suggest tome that I am extremely defensive about my viewpoint or I'm not interested in the other side of the debate: Zorro is the one who challenged and failed to provide any other side to the debate.

I didn't come here for flame wars, and that is where this is headed, so consider it dropped.

[Zorro]

I wasn't offended in the least, nor did I take it personally; like I said in a previous post, I find your attitude amusing. Not only that, I didn't fail to do anything, considering you provided only your subjective opinion and did not back it up with a valid scientific study. If and when you do, maybe then I'll start looking for a study that contradicts the one you base your conclusions on (and I doubt you can).

[shaneone]

Original quote from Zerokini:

I'm not, and I don't care much for it when I see it. I much prefer a very natural furry area where it belongs. It's just a preference, so don't anyone take it personally, but it has always seemed that people who shave their genitals look too much like juveniles to me.


If you had ended your post there, it would have been fine. We would all have left it be. But you carried on and tried to make it sound like we were all sexual predators. We're not!!

Like you state yourself:
"It's just a preference"

I gave some of the other side of the argument:
I find it more comfortable and less irritable in the heat when I am clothed. You simply dismissed that.

I will finish my view with this:
There is always a minority who try to spoil things for everyone else. Don't tar us all with that brush.

[FireProf]

What has always puzzled me with this topic and the direction is usually heads, is that, for such open minded, free thinking, understanding and accepting as "nudists" pretend to be, there are still many out there that have such narrow minded views of many others. These people hide behind such phrases as...."it's just my opinion" or "don't take it personally."

I have often argued that "not" shaving or having a full amount of pubic hair or any pubic hair doesn't make a person any more mature than those that shave.

Not having pubic hair or trimming or shaving ones pubic hair completely off does not make a person a juvenile or a pedophile. These types of generalities, stereotyping and name calling is juvenile and certainly not a characteristic of what we, as nudists, want many others to see us as.

Many people come here to find information on nudism. Some come to ask questions regarding rules, etiquette, fears, concerns and the like. What they usually find in a thread such as this is the constant name calling, labeling and immature bickering that gives us and our lifestyle a bad reputation.

This topic will not go away. Shaving or smoothie topics are always going to pop up here and on the dozens of other naturist message boards around the internet. If you don't care to read or respond, why visit, read and respond negatively?

The same people will argue, complain and bash a particular person that isn't even a nudist and visits this board to argue the textile point of view. These same people don't think that this person should even be here on this website if he doesn't like the idea of nakeness.

The same should hold true for those that don't like or have a real distaste for shaving and those that do. Stay out of the shaving threads, if you do decide to read and respond, try doing so in a mature and open minded manner. Don't come to a thread you don't like and call other members/naturists names or insinuate they are immature, evil or perverted because they happen to do something you don't (ie shaving ones pubic hair).

[Naturist Mark]

The smoothy trend has nothing to do with naturism. It became widespread in naturism because it is widespread in the general population.

Many have hypothesized that it gained popularity as an attempt to look juvenile - and that this is the reason it became nearly universal in pornography.

The only persuasive explanation I've heard is that it evolved from the practice of women trimming public hair for swimming suits (the opposite of naturism). Bikini waxing and trimming eventually evolving to just taking it all off.

The smoothy look for men was simply an example of the trend jumping genders.

-Mark

[FireProf]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Naturist Mark:
The smoothy trend has nothing to do with naturism. It became widespread in naturism because it is widespread in the general population.

-Mark </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You are absolutely right. "The smoothie trend has nothing to do with naturism."

But...because we, nudists/naturists, are usually always nude, it is evident that some or most of those nudists/naturists are following the trend, thus...the question arises for anyone trying it, nudism/naturism, for the first time.

I do think that the porno industry had lots to do with the smoothy trend. Many of the adult magazines, videos and clubs (gentlemen) featured this trend. With many women taking note and then some of those visiting nude beaches and resorts, it became something to try by the mainstream naturist women.

My wife was one of those that began by trimming and trimming to suit her small bikini's before we ventured to the nude beaches. Once she saw so many of the women at the beach and at a couple of resorts, shaving it all off, she was also taken by this trend. I inturn, followed suit.

It's a personal preference. It's a trend and like other trends, it fits some, others it does not. I simply feel that we, as naturists, shouldn't be name calling or making generalized statements to one another just because we differ in our preferences for different trends.

and........thanks, Mark, for getting the topic back on track and my apologies for getting off track again.

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[OZJames]

FireProf - <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">shaving it all off,............... I inturn, followed suit. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Interesting use of the word "SUIT" which in addition to the meaning you used also of course means "set of clothing".

Shaving our hair is just a means of "dressing ourselves up" or is there some sexual pleasure achieved by being fully shaved ? Nobody answers this question.

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[shaneone]

The only way for you to answer that question is to shave OzJames. http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/laugh.gif

[Fuzzy Nuts]

Shaving our hair is just a means of "dressing ourselves up" or is there some sexual pleasure achieved by being fully shaved ? Nobody answers this question.

http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/beam.gif <span class="ev_code_RED">JAMES</span> http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/beam.gif[/QUOTE]

It does make one feel that he or she is just entering puberty - I dont know if that could be a source of pleasure or not.

[NakedGary]

[OzJames Quote]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Interesting use of the word "SUIT" which in addition to the meaning you used also of course means "set of clothing".
Shaving our hair is just a means of "dressing ourselves up" or is there some sexual pleasure achieved by being fully shaved ? Nobody answers this question. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

"Follow suit" is a Phrasal Verb of "follow"

Follow suit:

1. Games To play a card of the same suit as the one led.

2. To do as another has done; follow an example.

#2 above as stated in the Free Dictionary:

Link to "Free Dictionary" re: "follow suit" (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/follow+suit)

OzJames - Not meant as a correction or grammar - As you said in addition to; I just thought the "Phrasal Verb" use was interesting also, and the above is a good reference URL.

Merriam Webster is also a good URL to Reference:

Link to Merriam Webster URL (http://www.m-w.com/)
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[FireProf]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Fuzzy Nuts:
Shaving our hair is just a means of "dressing ourselves up" or is there some sexual pleasure achieved by being fully shaved ? Nobody answers this question.

http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/beam.gif <span class="ev_code_RED">JAMES</span> http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/beam.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It does make one feel that he or she is just entering puberty - I dont know if that could be a source of pleasure or not.[/QUOTE]

Fuzzy,

This may be your opinion, or how YOU feel, it makes you feel, but not everyone is anxious to relive puberty. http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/laugh.gif

Yes, our reason for shaving is two fold, first the trend is to trim greatly or shave completely. There is an intimate reason as well and one that is discussed openly on other naturists sites but cannot and will not be allowed to be discussed openly here on this site.

Many times this issue has come up and the thread has been shut down because this site is marketing itself as a family naturist site and open discussion of sexuality, by naturists, is not a topic that this site, routinely, allows.

So...to answer you question, yes...shaving our pubic hair has a sexual reason for us as well as the trend that is out there but make no mistake, we are not trying to relive puberty, I am not trying to make my penis look bigger, I am not attracted to "younger" females and the implications of these or any others I may have missed are without merit.

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[easy_going_guy_fkk_in_germany]

yeah, I shave smooth sometimes, but not too often as it can become irritated easily and thus unsightly after some time. So I usually just trim it around to add accent size and shape. Plus the hair, I think, adds personality for some people, just like any hairstyle would. I think it is nice either way. http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/happy.gif we need to be less concerned about vanity, and more about how we can unite as a online community.

[richinoregon]

I shave underarms & pubic region because I believe it is more hygienic (no hair to keep the odors/germs) and I just like the feel. Thats the only reason.