embarrassment in a nude gathering

[sandar]

Do women feel let down or embarrassed in a nude gathering when her male partner is having a small
tool.

[sandar]

Do women feel let down or embarrassed in a nude gathering when her male partner is having a small
tool.

[Duneman]

I'm not a woman, but I do have a small penis so maybe I can give an opinion on this!?

I have asked my wife, and several other women naturist friends this question, usually when going for a walk on the beach, and we meet a "well hung" stud coming the other way!

They say they "honestly don't care!"

All of the women, (including a couple of teenage girls) have told me that it seems it's the "guy's" that think a large penis is so important!

I am 60 yrs old, and my friend's wife is 32 and she is an eye catcher! And she says she has no qualms about joining me for a walk on the beach naked anytime!?

Duneman

Since at nudist functions nobody sees an erect penis (under average conditions) I don't see how the size soft is relevant.

[Croydon]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by sandar:
Do women feel let down or embarrassed in a nude gathering when her male partner is having a small
tool. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I said it once when the original thread was around and i'll say it again. WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH NATURISM. This board is becoming more and more about penis size, circumscion, sex and less and less about naturist issues.

It is bit childish when a GROWN MAN worries about his penis size. When you are a teen, that I can understand but there comes a point where you have to GROW UP. Like I always say to my female friends when we talk about guys, "Men are very much like children, they never really grow up." Even at 30 or 40, they have the mentality of children.

[Croydon]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Duneman:



All of the women, (including a couple of teenage girls) have told me that it seems it's the "guy's" that think a large penis is so important!

Duneman <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Let me get this straight, you, a GROWN MAN, asked teenage girls what they thought about penis size? What did u do? Walked up to them and had a conversation about penis size? I am surprise they weren't creeped out by you and not report you to proper authorities. I sure would if I were a parent. Am I the only one here who finds something wrong with that?

P.S.
One of the main contributors of small penis is being fat, obese, overweight.

[Dave M.]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Croydon:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by sandar:
Do women feel let down or embarrassed in a nude gathering when her male partner is having a small
tool. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I said it once when the original thread was around and i'll say it again. WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH NATURISM. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I Agree!! (I thought a true naturist would not concerned about penis size.)

[Duneman]

Wow.... well to answer a couple of your questions Croydon, the teen age girls were, 1. My best friend's daughter who I have known since the age of 10, (and is now 22) and 2. One of my Nieces (who is also a naturist) on vacation from California.

Actually, I think the original question is quite relevant and reasonable.

For those of us that have struggled for yrs with poor self esteem, and body image, how others perceive us is probably never far from our minds.

I congratulate those folks that have conquered their fears... but for me personally, I have gone through years of torment that have affected me to this day. I have seriously contemplated suicide twice. (At 16 and at 22)

It was the naturist lifestyle, and the support of some very dear friends that have helped me a great deal over the last 15 yrs.

I would imagine that many people, (male & female) have body issues, and it is more than a question of "growing up," but are issues that can be helped by discussing them on forums such as this.

[kelly99]

Take it easy, Croydon. Getting uptight is bad for the heart.

[sandar]

Thanks Duneman for your reply to my original query.But remarks of women naturists will give more confidence to a new male naturist.
And Croydon you need to be more sensitive to others feelings because this is an open forum after all and there are so many facets of naturist lifestyle.
Sander

[Croydon]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by sandar:
Thanks Duneman for your reply to my original query.But remarks of women naturists will give more confidence to a new male naturist.
And Croydon you need to be more sensitive to others feelings because this is an open forum after all and there are so many facets of naturist lifestyle.
Sander <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Has nothing 2 do with senstivity and everything to do with stupidity over something so stupid. If your concerns regarding naturism is your small penis, perhaps u need to RE-EVALUATE your interests and reasons in being a nudist.

[David77]

Croydon,
As I have mentioned before, I consider that it's your usual display of insensitivity of the feelings of others, and your disrespect for others.

[Croydon]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by David77:
Croydon,
As I have mentioned before, I consider that it's your usual display of insensitivity of the feelings of others, and your disrespect for others. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Hey, I just tell it like it is. My brutal honesty may come off as insensitive but that isn't my problem. I just think a lot of people are stupid, do stupid things or say stupid things. And I think a men who concern themselves with a penis, something they really cant change, are stupid. I have seen a lot of bizzare people come on this site and I believe a lot of men need 2 re-evaluate why they are interested in nudism b/c they are in it for wrong reasons

[florida-david]

croydon, why do you say others are stupid when you are obviously a @#$$^%&#%$$. i usually do not come on so harsh, but why are you even here?? maybe we should open a poll about booting you off this site because you have no credibility. i was happy you were gone for a while!!!

as for responding to the original post, if you have nothing good to say, than keep your keyboard off!!! the original post was an honest question, and some of the responses were honest responses. too bad some people on this site are just looking to cause harm to others.

[Naturist Mark]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Croydon:
WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH NATURISM. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>It has everything to do with naturism for a newbie.

Concerns and insecurities about having an 'imperfect' body is the number one stumbling block for most people interested in nudism (closely followed by erection concerns).

This question relates directly to body acceptance issues, albeit with a new twist - a spouse/partners concern about the other's appearance.

The question is in order. The ill-tempered response was not.

-Mark

[MikeJB]

Why does it matter at all? Honestly if a woman feels let down about her man just because his "tool" is small then shes got issues and really misses the whole point of having a relationship and being in love with someone, you love them for who and what they are, not how big their tool is, the size of that shouldnt matter. I dont think most women really care, its the man who cares about the size of it.

[Croydon]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by florida-david:
maybe we should open a poll about booting you off this site because you have no credibility. i was happy you were gone for a while!!!

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Consider it done...I have officially withdraw from INA website. Adios peeps. This will be the last you'll hear from Croydon149.

[florida-david]

hmm, i'm speechless, i don't know wether to laugh or cry, i think, i'll /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[sandar]

I think the topic makes sense given the response both positive and negative . But for some conclusion more opinion are needed , so folks come out with your honest views without bothering for some insensitive guys like croydon.Honestly some conclusion has to be drawn which can be interpreted as a nudist behaviour , otherwise there is no point in crossing swords with one another just like that.

[missouriboy]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Croydon:
I just think a lot of people are stupid, do stupid things or say stupid things. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>And to see one of the top champions of that category, you have only to look into the nearest mirror!
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I have officially withdraw from INA website. Adios peeps. This will be the last you'll hear from Croydon149. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>IMHO -- Halleleujah!

Sandar: I have a (positive) opinion of my own for you, but I assumed your question was directed to the women, so I didn't presume to butt in. Anyway, I don't think most women care two hoots. But I see few of them have answered yet, so now that we're back "on topic," hopefully some more will.

BTW, I think I CAN speak for missourigirl (who doesn't read the forum)... she always tells me she pays no attention at all to men's bodies.

[kelly99]

Croydon's gone??? Jeez, just when I was getting to like the little pr---!!! Well, that's the original topic, ain't it?

[hm0504]

cyndiann wrote
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Since at nudist functions nobody sees an erect penis (under average conditions) I don't see how the size soft is relevant.
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The over-fascination with size, whether for male or female, body parts is one of those issues that I find particularly curious. Obviously, for women, we all know about the traditional popularity of breast enlargement, and now we have botox for enlarging lips, and (egads!) women concerned their clitoris is too small. Unfortunately, I know (as a man) that some men (not all!) really do guage a woman's sexual allure almost solely by the size of certain body parts. I guess the latest comments I've heard have to with areola size as being a big turn on.

For men, the focus is of course, all on one particular body part and hence the incredible number of penis enlargement operations going on. Then, of course, we have all the ads and "medical" drives going regarding andropause. The Canadian Broadcasting Corporation aired a great show on this recently, see
http://www.cbc.ca/cbcworldwide/sexdrugsmiddleage/

With regard to the cyndiann's comment, I emphasize the point she makes. The size of a penis in its flaccid state is no clear indicator of its size in an erect state. Generally, penises that are smaller in their flaccid state have a much greater increase increase in size when erect. The size of a penis in its flaccid state is largely due to the amount of residual blood and the amount of spongy material retracted, or not, into the body.

Though I haven't done any scientific studies, I'd hazard that individuals who focus on the size of other's body parts as a key criteria of sexiness may be missing some of the truly important aspects. Or maybe that's just my bias.

To sum up, I think all the pressure for size, intensity, and frequency we see not just from spam email but even from the apparently bona fide "medical" marketers has more to do with increasing the size of our insecurities in order to increase the size of someone else's wallet. I mean the little guy or gal can't win can they; as soon as the 57-year old has the surgery and pills to make him/her like a 30-year old, the 30-year old gets surgery and pills to beat out the other 30-year olds. Its a great business opportunity as the size of of the sexual insecurity market seems to be practically infinite.

Hey, I'm ranting so I'll stop now. I'll just add that this, and other world events, make me want to see that incredibly prohetic, satiric movie "Brazil" again.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088846/

[steve-o]

Hey all,
I'm with Sandar (and others) who undertand that most people harbor concerns and insecurities about having an 'imperfect' body -- whatever that is. I mean, Hell, that's the main thing people are self-conscience about during their first few times in a nudist environment. If we were all Victoria's Secret models or perfectly-sculpted (and well-hung) Adonises, would any of us have these concerns or questions? Course not.

Sandar knows that women who see men (in their smaller) flacid state, have no way of comparing him to his 'larger' state, so he was just wondering if women think anything less of him (and most other men), less masculine, etc.. than another guy who may appear "larger."

This is not an immature or sexual question whosoever. It has everything to do with nudism because it has to do with body image and body acceptance. I mean, if a person is curious about such things, this should be the one open forum for asking such questions. This should be the one place where he can get women's honest point of view. .. and hopefully with those answers go forth in the nude envionments and feel less self-conscience about himself.

My four cents.
--steve
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Many of us are deeply ingrained with centuries of brainwashing about how "shameful" the human body is. We have a lifetime of indoctination of body shame to overcome. We've been taught that if we don't have a body like a model we don't measure up, and we should never be seen naked. We've been conditioned to believe that men's penises and women's breasts must be large; stomachs must be small; bodies must be well-toned, and there must not be ANY blemishes.

Men are often self-conscious about their small penis, and women are self-conscious about their small breasts. There are, of course, many other things about which we've been taught to be self-conscious. We have not only a lifetime, but centuries, of ingrained body shame to oversome, and that's not an easy task.

People who know and understand about this brainwashing and conditioning are sympathetic, understanding, and patient with the rest of us. The uncaring, clods will always criticize people for having fears and feeling insecure.

Being one who grew up with fears and insecurities (some of which I still haven't completely overcome), I know what others are going through about their bodies. Thanks to the media, magazines, and other sources that tell us that if you're not a "perfect 10", then you don't measure up and are lacking something, people are afraid to be seen naked.

That's why plastic surgery and cosmetic surgery are so popular and make the doctors wealthy. People are looking for that "perfect 10" body that we're told we must have in order to be accepted and loved. Even with a "10" body, they wouldn't dream of being nude in a social setting.

That's where social nudism debunks that false belief. We learn that bodies come in all shapes and sizes and mostly imperfect. We learn to accept our bodies as they are, imperfections and all. We learn that penis and breast size really DON'T matter--except to those who don't have it. What matters are our attitude and behavior.

[sandar]

Well folks one clarification - by size I meant flaccid size only . But hey ladies why you are still in the closet. You may consider it as a psychological interview and come out with your honest opinions.

[hw]

sandar you posted this question on another thread to which I replied:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> sandar I don't think a woman should be embarrassed by the size of her partners penis. After all, you go to a nudist function to socialize with like minded people.

May I ask the same of you? Would you be embarrassed if your partner had smaller than average breasts?

I believe there is more to a man than the size of his penis. It is what is on the inside that counts. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Jochanaan]

Concern about body parts, masculine or feminine, is often a mask for deeper fears regarding self-worth. (I know this from my own acquaintance.) And to tell someone who suffers from this to "just get over it" is to rub salt in a bleeding stab wound, since without help it is virtually impossible for these fears to be conquered. Brutal honesty, unless it is accompanied by long friendship, does more harm than good.

Let me extrapolate a bit. I am not a woman, but I like to think I am smarter than the average bear, or bare. The size and shape of a woman's body, or the parts thereof, make next to no difference in the attraction I feel towards her. So it's logical to reason that an intelligent, sensitive woman, one who would make a good mate, would care equally little about a man's body or the parts thereof.

Your thoughts, ladies?

[tarsus]

i think i said this somewhere before. size is not important,unless it concerns the heart
no woman worth having or even knowing will care.
no man who dares call himself a man, will care.
i am reminded of an old indian tale of how the turkey buzzard got his suit of feathers. hold your head high,know you are who you are,no one can take that away,without your consent.
may the peace of a calm spirit be yours.