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01-01-2003, 08:35 PM
I recently received a private message from someone in these forums who said I am boring, and he was tired of reading the same things over and over that I write.

My question is, and please be truthful: How many of you agree with him? He asked me if I don't have a life. Actually, no, I don't. I get some encouraging private messages from people here which I greatly appreciate.

However, if I'm too boring to the majority, I will go away and not bother anyone here again. I didn't realize that I was all that boring. If it's just the asinine opinion of an ignoramus and not the opinion of the majority, I will just ignore him. Please let me know. I don't want to be where I'm not wanted. /infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

01-01-2003, 08:35 PM
I recently received a private message from someone in these forums who said I am boring, and he was tired of reading the same things over and over that I write.

My question is, and please be truthful: How many of you agree with him? He asked me if I don't have a life. Actually, no, I don't. I get some encouraging private messages from people here which I greatly appreciate.

However, if I'm too boring to the majority, I will go away and not bother anyone here again. I didn't realize that I was all that boring. If it's just the asinine opinion of an ignoramus and not the opinion of the majority, I will just ignore him. Please let me know. I don't want to be where I'm not wanted. /infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

chuckie30
01-01-2003, 11:19 PM
Well its the same old thing, if someone doesnt like what he sees on the telly, change channels. I enojoy reading the different views and opinions of the various people who post here. But then the amount of people who post here compared to the amount of members is interesting. The one thing I do not like is when someone reads somthing they dont like or agree with they think it gives them the right to be rude(to put it politely) to whoever they dont agree with. I think it would be boring if everyone had the same views, but if I dont agree with someone well have a discussion and agree to disagree and leave it at that. I have some fine friends who I visit and we usually have a discussion about something or the other and it is never boring. It adds spice to life. So if someone tells you you are boring, tell them to get a life!!!

sojourner
01-01-2003, 11:22 PM
Jon-Marc,

I don't find your posts boring at all. As a matter of fact, as one new to the board, I find your enthusiasm for naturism refreshing and your posts and replies to be well thought out and with sincerity. Keep posting - you have folks who like what you say.

Soj

mel
01-02-2003, 12:06 AM
Jon-Marc
Don't worry about what one person thinks. He was rude to say that and since he didn't sign his name, he has no backbone either.
Do what you want to do. You've never hurt anyone here.

Stretch
01-02-2003, 12:25 AM
Good Morning, Jon-Marc::
Dont Leave!!!!!!
I personally Enjoy the posts I read everyday.
I'm fairly new on the boards, so I dont post that often.
You have a great day.
Stretch

01-02-2003, 12:32 AM
I thank the three of you for your kind words. I just wanted to know if others agreed with him, or if it was just him. There may be some who do agree with him but haven't had the chance to reply yet. I did realize from what he said that I DO tend to repeat myself a lot, but it's usually when someone new has a problem about the usual male concerns. I like to try to help those new to naturism since I'm beginning to feel like an old hand at naturism though I've been a naturist for less than 2 years. Opps! I repeated myself again.

I know who he was or at least the name he uses here in his posts, but I saw no need to say who he is. I won't lower myself to his level by attacking him. At least he did it privately, but he probably didn't have the nerve to do where all of you would read it. Of course, I don't suppose any of you would know who he really is any more than I do.

From his long list of gripes about me, I would say I don't write anything he likes. I realize that my beliefs and dislikes I'm not afraid to express can be offensive, and I apologize for when I do offend someone. Of course, things written by others sometimes offend me, and I would never write to them what was written to me.

He hid behind a posted name and so I guess you would call that being anonymous. I deleted his rude, very offensive message without replying to it. I figure he's entitled to his asinine opinion of me. Have a Happy Nude Year, everyone--even the rude guy! /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

C
01-02-2003, 12:33 AM
With so few posters (or new postings), we need lots of content here to choose from. Personally, I enjoy your comments (and your humor).

It's those mean people that make me feel...well...

bertirolioliolo potatolioliololiolo
01-02-2003, 01:55 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jon-Marc:
[QB]I recently received a private message from someone in these forums who said I am boring, and he was tired of reading the same things over and over that I write.

Jon Marc, why don't you post us the mane and adress of this sneaky little individual and we can all post him privately as well !
/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Naked In Florida
01-02-2003, 06:10 AM
Jon-Marc your quite interesting!

Rik
01-02-2003, 06:50 AM
Jon-Marc
Don't let people get you down. Remember the mantra "I am a beautiful person". Repeat three times a day after meals....

....and have a happy new year. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Rik

Angel
01-02-2003, 07:01 AM
Jon-Marc:

Look at the "User Rating" after your name on your posts - a dozen people thought pretty highly of you, enough to actually go "Rate" you (I checked).

Buck up. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I don't agree with everything you say, but I'll defend your right to say it, and you say it pretty well. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

01-02-2003, 07:52 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Angel:
Jon-Marc:

Look at the "User Rating" after your name on your posts - a dozen people thought pretty highly of you, enough to actually go "Rate" you (I checked).

Buck up. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I don't agree with everything you say, but I'll defend your right to say it, and you say it pretty well. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I wish I could change my rating for him quite frankly. I did it before I found out he was prejudice.

Jon-Marc, I hope you understand that it isn't anything personal and I understand you were molested but you can't hold that against a whole class of real nice people. What you posted was rooted in hate and you need to take care of that instead of letting it fester inside.

jeslrs
01-02-2003, 07:52 AM
Keep up the good work. Who among us doesn't repeat. I do. Everyone does. The guy that complained does. So what! Stick around guy... the forum needs you.

Now I have a question. My tan is beginning to fade. What do you do to keep the healthy look going. My wife suggested that stuff women wore on their legs during WWII (I'm old), but I can't find it anyplace. I live in Tucson but it's cold here. Only in the 70s. Thanks in advance for the good advice...
Happy New Year...

KEN 108
01-02-2003, 10:49 AM
Joh-Marc
NEVER LET ONE PERSON IN A GROUP INFLUENCE YOU THAT WAY!! Stay in the group and post as you see fit. Someone said that "if you don't like what's on the telly...change the channel"
Don't pay any attention to the idiot that wrote to you.

Rik
01-02-2003, 01:22 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by KEN 108:
--------------------
SAVE THE EARTH!!!....It's the only planet with chocolate! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>LOL LOL LOL

NotBob13
01-02-2003, 04:33 PM
Hey Jon-Marc,
Don't let the bastards grind you down. Even some of us gay-guys think you're alright. /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Bartamus
01-02-2003, 05:33 PM
Jon-Marc: You are one of our devoted regulars who
actually do contribute in a "positive" way to
this forum. Frankly, I wish we had more like you.

nudeM
01-02-2003, 07:04 PM
Jon-Marc: Don't let the S.O.B. get the better of you. I have read many of your posts, and even though I don't agree with you some of the time, we do share one thing in common, just as everybody else does. We all say want we want. There are many others out there whose opinions are regarded very highly and some of those whose opinions aren't worth the time of day. But, IT IS these opinions that keeps this forum going. Without the opinions of others, this would definitely be a boring place to be.

Keep up the good work, and don't let anyone chase you away. As stated previously, your input is, indeed, very enjoyable to read. Stick around and stay with us for a while. Thanks

gamblefish
02-02-2003, 04:08 AM
Hey Jon-Marc!!

Please forgive me for not replying sooner, I just read your message (yeah, I'm a little behind!) and had to reply.

You are not boring. In fact, you are one of my favorite posters. Glad you didn't let that little jerk run you off.

PS...Great pic!! Hope someday I get enough nerve to post one too. /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Stevedaoust
02-02-2003, 06:25 AM
If I set my life by what ONE person says, I would be cowaring in the corner and not living my life as it should.

Steve

02-02-2003, 12:54 PM
Gamblefish,
Thanks for the kind words. You have been one of the most encouraging people in the forum. I don't believe I'm any more opinionated than any other person. I will try in the future not to repeat myself too much. However, we get new people all the time who bring up old questions to which I reply. My same answers seem to offend that one person. Another person thinks I'm prejudiced because I base what I believe on what God's word teaches.
Steve,
It's not a matter of setting my life by what ONE person says about me. That was just one asinine opinion of one specific jerk. However, I wanted to know what the majority thought about what I write. I'm a person who won't stay where I'm not wanted--unlike Stu.

The majority of the people who responded were encouraging. That was all I wanted to know. No one can expect to be liked by everyone--particularly when you start voicing beliefs contrary to someone else's. No one likes to be disagreed with--except those who enjoy debating. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

florida-david
02-02-2003, 06:02 PM
jon-marc, you are great, not only do you have good things to say, you don't seem to repeat yourself and you keep your thoughts short and too the point. i need to vote for you /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

02-02-2003, 06:30 PM
Thank you, florida-david. I try not to use more words than I need. The really looooooong posts get very boring very quickly. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

greensunshine
02-03-2003, 03:10 AM
Dear Jon,

I couln't have said it better regarding some of the veeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrryyyyyyyyyyyyy loooooooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnnnggggggggggggggggggg gg posts that some seem to go on and on and on and on.....forever... These also tend to be the ones I skip entirely...I was taught in College if you can't state your point in the first few lines, you will lose your audience...most of those who tend ramble on...have been very successful with me...come to think of it, I can't seem to remember the last time I actually read the posts entirely...that is how boring they have a tendacy to become /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Greensunshine /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Jerryg
02-03-2003, 05:20 AM
Jon-Mark I still think you are one of the better contributors to the board.
It is hard to not let some jerk ruin your day with off the wall comments when they should have kept their mouth shut. Evidently these people are a universal problem to society. I've noticed others in the forum come under attack even if they are trying to be helpful.
As for long post by some, I too regard them boring and usually skip over them also.
Theres my two cents worth.
Jerryg

Snoboy
02-03-2003, 11:23 AM
Jon-Marc, I agree with Bart, Sojourner, Florida-David, to name a few, who attest to the pleasure of reading your posts. Do not allow the opinion of "one" to guide you down the wrong path, you are a valued member of the Forum and "your" opinions "are valued" by many of us. Your rich heritage offers us many things to consider and we thank you for them. The person who wrote annonomously to you probably just got up on the wrong side of the bed or had gas. Who knows, but remember that you are a good man and a valued member of the forum. /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Nude in the North
02-03-2003, 01:28 PM
Jon-Marc,
I too am one who is easily hurt by personal attacks. I have had problems in my life as we all have, and it hurts to have even one person voice their dislike for me.
I came to this forum looking for like minded people that could understand what it's like to want to enjoy life nude. To compare experiences and learn about places to go where I would be accepted.
I have learned alot in the last 2+ years. Both things to do as well as things to avoid.
You my Friend are at the top of the list of people I would put my trust in. You are also included on the list of fellow forumers I would someday like to meet.
Keep posting.

Steve

Bob S.
02-03-2003, 06:43 PM
All right, it's time for me to give my accolades to you Jon-Marc. I agree that you are one of the more patient members on this board. And you bring a unique perspective to everything. And don't worry about having to repeat yourself. You aren't nearly as bad as I am. And you keep your messages short /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

But there is one thing I want to say to you. A prejudice is a prejudice, no matter if it comes from ignorance, religious belief, or cultural bias. What is more important, however, is how you treat others, especially those with whom you disagree. And in that respect, I believe that you are fulfilling your Christian duty.

Bob S.

02-03-2003, 09:12 PM
I thank you all for the many kind words. It's unfortunate, though, that some people consider religious beliefs based upon the Bible to be "prejudice". I guess that means that all those who preach against sin are prejudiced. Jesus was definitely "prejudiced" because He called the Pharisees and Scribes "Hypocrites". He even told them they were of their father the devil.

I try to treat all people the same. We're commanded by God to treat everyone the way WE want to be treated, and I do that. However, we are NOT commanded to accept behavior that we know is not accepted by God.

I have often had to apologize to someone for something I said and regretted saying. I have no problem with doing that when I'm wrong. However, my beliefs are NOT wrong. I do NOT apologize for those.

Bob S.
02-04-2003, 06:30 PM
Jon-Marc,

According to my dictionary, the Oxford Essential Dictionary; American Edition:

prejudice: 1. a. preconceived opinion b. bias or partiality.

In my view, prejudiceness is neither good nor bad. It is how one deals with their prejudices that matters most. You have a preconceived opinion regarding homosexuality. So what? It would be bad if you extended that to the person. I have some preconceived opinions regarding PETA. I don't like them! But I don't attribute any of the evilness that they do upon the individuals until I meet them.

You can't escape being prejudice about things, especially when you only have one POV. You can escape acting negatively on those prejudices. Two entirely different things.

I hope this clarifies things. Prejudiceness is a neutral, and necessary part of us. The term has merely been corrupted by its overuse in the realm of civil rights.

Bob S.

02-04-2003, 08:45 PM
OK Bob, I understand your point and agree with it. However, the word "prejudice" is always thought of as a negative, offensive, and harmful attitude.

I really don't like being called prejudice simply because I believe some things (according to God's teachings in the Bible) are wrong. For me if God says it's wrong, it's wrong. If there's nothing specific in the Bible about it, it's up to each individual to decide for himself unless laws say it's illegal. Some laws, however, are outdated and need to be removed.

I am kind to EVERYONE, even to those with whom I don't agree. I'm a Baptist; one of my best friends in the past was a Catholic. We got along very well despite having a very friendly debate once on the differences in our beliefs. We were still good friends afterwards. That was in the Air Force, and I have no idea where he is now.

I do not have to approve of someone's behavior or lifestyle to treat them with respect. That's the Christian way. God loves all people, but he does not approve of everyone's behavior. That's why He wrote the ten commandments. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

steevo
02-04-2003, 08:50 PM
Jon-Marc,
I have agreed with many of comments and have some times said so. I must confess, am one of those that don't state my feelings very often cause I don't think it much matters what I think. But then again if it is some thing that I feel; strong enough about I WILL state my mind.
Your doing great, don't stop now.
Steevo Here /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

HomeNudist
02-05-2003, 07:32 AM
Hi jon-marc.
Don't leave us I enjoy all your posts and wisdoms.Like others have mentioned if this person doesn't want to read your post DON'T! This person can exersise the same right as watching tv, if you don't like the show turn the channel. If your don't like whats in the paper put it down. If you don't like the book your reading throw it away. I guess my point is this person only need to exersise his right by not reading your post, plain and simple! But you also have the right to continue to post and I hope you do! People like this should remeber the old saying, IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING GOOD TO SAY ABOUT SOMEONE DON'T SAY ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Have a GREAT day and we'll talk to ya later.

Buzzer
08-26-2003, 09:47 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jon-Marc:
I recently received a private message from someone in these forums who said I am boring, and he was tired of reading the same things over and over that I write.

My question is, and please be truthful: How many of you agree with him? He asked me if I don't have a life. Actually, no, I don't. I get some encouraging private messages from people here which I greatly appreciate.
I agree that everyone repeats. It seems to be a human habit to be annoyed by someone else having the same fault we do. I'm new to this board, but it's okay with me for you or anyone else to repeat. I do, too.
However, if I'm too boring to the majority, I will go away and not bother anyone here again. I didn't realize that I was all that boring. If it's just the asinine opinion of an ignoramus and not the opinion of the majority, I will just ignore him. Please let me know. I don't want to be where I'm not wanted. /infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Buzzer
08-26-2003, 09:53 AM
I did something wrong, again !
What I wanted to say was, I agree. We all repeat ourseves at sometime or another. It seems to be a human trait that we are most annoyed by something we do ourselves too often. I'm fairly new to this board, but You seem to be posting some interesting things, and some folks are also new to the board.

BareDebCNA
08-27-2003, 11:52 AM
Jon-Marc,
Please don't leave the boards just because one one person who was mean and hateful. I look for your coments when i get on the fourms cause i enjoy reading what you have to say. I always learn something new. If you have gone, please come back!!!!
Deb /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Naturist Mark
08-27-2003, 07:16 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by nurse2b:
Jon-Marc,
Please don't leave the boards just because one one person who was mean and hateful. I look for your coments when i get on the fourms cause i enjoy reading what you have to say. I always learn something new. If you have gone, please come back!!!!
Deb /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Jon-Marc hasn't posted in this thread since February, and hasn't posted anywhere in the forum since July 16. I also haven't seen him at Turtle Lake for quite awhile. I think he may have moved, he was planning to move from Michigan to Georgia as soon as his home sold.

-Mark

hw
08-27-2003, 08:37 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by naturistmark1:
Jon-Marc hasn't posted in this thread since February, and hasn't posted anywhere in the forum since July 16. I also haven't seen him at Turtle Lake for quite awhile. I think he may have moved, he was planning to move from Michigan to Georgia as soon as his home sold.

-Mark [/QB] <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Mark, I think nurse2b must have seen Jon-Marc's name listed like I did last night. Not only was his name listed as a user being on, his profile and everything was the same. Unless someone else is using his name and picture. (No this is not a joke). /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

David77
08-27-2003, 09:22 PM
Yes, I was very surprised to see Jon-Marc's name in the "Visitors on Line Now" section yesterday.

Maybe he is now on line in Georgia, at long last, and just has not changed his profile yet listing his new location.

butnaked
08-28-2003, 02:30 AM
Glory to God, How ever YOU believe!

Jon-Marc, as a Christian you must not turn away, did Daniel turn away in the lions den! If all the Christians are run out of the church then who will live there. I know, with prayer, the strenght and support we all need at times will come from God. There is no burden given you can not support with the help of The Almighty God.

We have exchanged in the BB and I believe while you should and will stand up for your convictions. I will stand with you and everyone else as I believe we all have the right to believe as we so choose. For me by the grace of God every sole shall walk the path they choose! I have and you have defended everyone's right to live and speek free, and I will still fight to defend our freedoms.

God Bless and Keep Us All

/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

And may we all live in peace!

08-28-2003, 08:26 AM
Bravo Jon-Marc...Glad to here from you again...You were really missed....Best wishes for your future...Outdoorbare /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

mj
08-28-2003, 08:46 AM
Hey Jon-Marc....welcome back!!!!!!

Remember prejudice has, IMHO, it's roots in ignorance and a closed mind. Sometimes repetiton is necessary to inform and open the mind. If I remember correctly some of my posts were very repitious, to the point of boredom.

Anyway....welcome back....

Falcon46
08-28-2003, 02:04 PM
Very well put Jon-Marc... and I don't I blame you for not wanting to post anymore, HOWEVER... it will certainly be a loss to the board, and I hope you can bring yourself to at least come around from time to time. There ARE people on here that respect one's right to disagree.

Either way, I wish you peace...

08-28-2003, 02:40 PM
People disagreeing is normal, but mature people disagree in a mature manner. Face to face people scream at each other, with neither hearing or listening to the other. In forums on the Internet people hide behind their anonymity and feel safe in verbally attacking others by name calling and belittling. They call it "disagreeing" and wonder why others get upset and even leave the forum "simply" because someone "disagreed" with them.

There's a big difference between saying "I don't agree. I see it another way although I could be wrong" and saying "I am right--period!" In case no one has noticed, I have often used the words "I could be wrong", because I'm not infallable. Only God is. Some people, though, come across with the impression that they believe they are always right and couldn't possibly be wrong about anything. My dad and second wife were like that. Both of them constantly criticized me, and I couldn't say or do ANYTHING right in either of their eyes.

I believe I am right in what I believe based upon the Bible which I believe to be God's written word. However, I could be wrong even in some of what I believe. Maybe I was told wrong, or maybe I myself misinterpreted something I read. Unlike some of the people in this forum, I try not to judge and condemn others as I used to do. With age comes a little wisdom.

hw
08-28-2003, 04:14 PM
Welcome back Jon-Marc /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Looking forward to hearing more from you all all topics. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

florida-david
08-28-2003, 04:59 PM
welcome back jon-marc!! although i disagree with you on many of your religious beliefs, i think i was not one of those who said something to purposely harm someone else. i hope my words were not the ones that you found offensive. i truly missed your incite and kind words especially when answering the newcomers questions on this site. i also strayed from the site recently because it seemed to be getting wierd, but i was not able to put my finger on what was going wrong. i'm glad to see you are back as we often need your wisdom to guide us to clearer thoughts....

Tenchi
08-28-2003, 06:37 PM
Jon-Marc it's great to have you as an addition to the forum. /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif I for one don't want you to leave. /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif I look forward to reading more of your future posts.

Bartamus
08-28-2003, 08:04 PM
Jon-Marc: On behalf of the INA forum..welcome back! It's nice to have religious convictions but lets's all remember this board is for discussion of naturism pure and simple. We do provide a separate thread for religious discussion as it relates to naturism. Everyone please feel free to use it.

theoldman
08-29-2003, 01:06 AM
WELCOME BACK!! Jon-marc. I enjoy your posts & hope you'll be a "regular" again. I've said it many times & many places that Religion & politics are two subjects that unless you & whoever you are talking to thinks like you it's going to be a disagreement & probably a nasty one at that. I think that this evident in the religion section of this board.

I certainly am not putting you or anyone else down for having your beliefs. I've got mine as well & a lot of people don't think the same way, but a lot of my friends, as do I, respect the view points of others. It's too bad that everyone can't be more accepting of others, but that unfortunately is not the case. Nudity itself is an example of ignorant prejudice causing rediculous (spelling?) restrictions.

What's that Latin phrase? Non corrundum illegitimae I think.

So, in short stick around, most people on this forum are accepting of different viewpoints, and for those that aren't just ignore them. Maybe pity them as well.

08-29-2003, 02:20 AM
Thanks oldman,

I've enjoyed reading about your nude childhood, and I've envied it. It's too bad all children can't experience a nude childhood with the blessing and protection of their parents and other adults. Your family has certainly done it right as far as body acceptance is concerned.

I wrote an answer to Bartamus's reply, but either it didn't get posted, or it was deleted. I can't deny my religious beliefs, but I try not to be offensive with them. Some people are offended if you simply say the name of God other than as a cuss word.

When I was 15 and not yet a Christian, another teen asked me "Do you believe in God?" We were in wood shop at the time. I cussed him up one side and down the other, using every four letter word and a few others in my vocabulary. Everyone including the teacher just stood there and listened. It was so quiet in there except for me ranting and raving. No one said anything to me about that incident. That's the way some people, as I did, respond to any mention of religion.

Bob S.
08-31-2003, 10:28 PM
Jon-Marc, let me give you a cyber hug! You have been sorely missed here.

The biggest problem with discussing religion is that no one is wrong. Your belief system is so personal and so ingrained in who you are that for someone to debate it is akin to debating your very existence.

You are always welcome here. Stay a while, take your clothes off and chill if only for a while. Friends are never a burden.

Bob S.

Bob S.
09-01-2003, 07:50 PM
So a cyber kiss is out of the question, Jon-Marc? /infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif How about just settling for a Hershey's kiss. Get the dark chocolate, they're better for you!

I think it would be better if people prefaced their ideas with "This is what I believe" as opposed to stating it as if their beliefs were fact. That's where things get touchy.

As for stopping people from criticizing, that won't happen, nor should it. Criticizing ideas is fine as long as it doesn't extend to the person. Disagreeing with another's beliefs is expected.

Bob S.

09-02-2003, 02:57 AM
Bob,

Actually, you said a "cyber hug" and not a "cyber kiss". I said I would accept a "cyber hug".

Maybe I'm just overly sensitive. Growing up on criticism as I did and never hearing anything positive all through my childhood and teen years, I tend to dislike criticism. The way I see it, if someone is criticizing someone else's beliefs, they are criticizing that person since he is what he believes, but then that's just an opinion.

RIVERRAT
09-22-2003, 11:21 PM
jonmarc, I haven't been here for a while, I to got trashed, oh well, I always thaught of you as an honest poster. I had no plans of replying or adding my none spellchecking view, but you are a corner stone here you need to stay. Great to speack to you again, I'll be checking you guys out from time to time, but I don't plan to add or as some would say subtract, but I will licen, oh there goes the spelling again. I really had to bite my tonge tonight. I'll be a silent vigilanty. You BELONG HERE, stick it out. later man.

09-22-2003, 11:33 PM
Riverrat,

At the risk of sounding like I'm criticizing, I got a kick out of all your misspelled words. Did you do that deliberately? /infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

I've decided to stay out of any religious arguements, or discussions about homosexuality, since all I do is get criticized for my beliefs. /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

I tried to stay away, but there's not another forum anywhere that's halfway interesting. I registered in two other forums. One rarely has anything new posted in it, and the other never does.

RIVERRAT
09-22-2003, 11:35 PM
PS from the rat let me know when I'm running out, corey or one of the staff, by the way I'm still thinking about what we talked about earlier. All you old timers stick it out, it's a fun place to be, most of the time. Later the RAT.

RIVERRAT
09-23-2003, 02:04 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jon-Marc:
Riverrat,

At the risk of sounding like I'm criticizing, I got a kick out of all your misspelled words. Did you do that deliberately? /infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

I've decided to stay out of any religious arguements, or discussions about homosexuality, since all I do is get criticized for my beliefs. /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

I tried to stay away, but there's not another forum anywhere that's halfway interesting. I registered in two other forums. One rarely has anything new posted in it, and the other never does. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Bud, no I just never learned to spell, I'll be here from time to time, stick around , we can still enjoy this site. Later the rat

missouriboy
09-23-2003, 02:15 AM
Hi there, RAT, we've missed you around here. And, hey, you spelled every word correctly in that last post, even the word "site," which many of the good spellers often get wrong! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Welcome back. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

shãybare
09-23-2003, 08:52 AM
Hey, Riverrat. Don't worry so much about what others put out negatively. This wouldn't be much of a forum if it didn't have such a diversity of opinions. Your opinions have the same weight as anyone else's on this forum. There are some here that seem harsh in their responses. Just remember they are merely stating their opinions the best way they know how even though they were not raised to respect others.