HAPPY HOLLIDAYS!!!!

[R.M.GREENMAN2]

This coming month is a special month for all religions( except I believe Ramadam(sp?) is over)

Merry Christmas to the Christians!

Happy Hanukkah (DEC.20-27th)

Happy Yule/ Solstice (Dec.22)

Kwanzaa is not a religious holliday, but is a lot of fun to celibrate.

Happy New Year!!!!
I want more in 2004!!!! /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

So, for those of you who celebrate Thanksgiving, how was yours? Better than mine I hope which I spent alone at home, but at least I was nude! I usually spend Thanksgiving at my daughter's, but she wasn't in the mood to cook, although I do a lot of the cooking and baking. She's tired of the fact that I'm the only one who contributes anything, but the others come and eat. My younger daughter and I do all the cooking and baking, and she didn't want to bother with it. I can't blame her. I've got relatives who are bad about inviting themselves to eat without even helping out in any way. My other daughter is quite lazy.

I have a nephew who was always bad about showing up at my daughter's at mealtime. She's too timid to say anything and complained to me. I told him that she would appreciate it if he called before coming over, and that she has 6 mouths to feed without him inviting himself, his son, and his girlfriend over there at mealtime. He said, "She never said anything to me." I told him that he didn't have the nerve to say anything and asked me to say something. I guess he rarely goes over there any more. That tells me he went over there for free food. I always call before going over there and ask if it's convenient, and I never eat there unless she invites me, even if they're eating while I'm there. I always eat before going over. I certainly never hint and say I'm hungry, but my nephew would. Actually he would just start eating without being asked.

[Nude in the North]

I spent the day at the VA hospital.
My Father in Law is having some problems .
So we went to spend the day with him.
I think he's going to be fine, but he is 75. Things can change fast at that age.

He was happy we came. He couldn't have any food all day.

Happy Holidays to all.

Steve

No food on Thanksgiving? That's a bummer! At least I had food to eat, although I just nuked something I had in the freezer. I eat mostly microwaved food these days since it's convenient, and it's too much trouble to cook for one. There are a lot of things out there that can be nuked.

I hope your father-in-law is as OK as possible at his age.

[Vin]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by R.M.GREENMAN2:
This coming month is a special month for all religions.... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Happy Yule, RM. Hope it's a great one.

BB,
Vin

[nudejosh123]

Jon Marc it is awesome that you are considerate. It is too bad though that you didn't invite your daughter for a small thanksgiving. In my family we tend to trade whose house it is going to be at. I guess mine is next year. I am not worried though because family will help because I am not the greatest cook in the world. I guess I will watch the Food Network some more. LOL. I agree though it is very hard to cook for one because I end up with tons of left overs.

NudeJosh,

If I invited one daughter, I would have to invite the other. Counting the grandkids that would be 9 of us in my little house. Four screaming, fighting kids tend to get on my nerves very quickly since their parents do very little to correct them, and it's not my place to do it. At my daughter's house at least some of the kids can play in the bedroom. Also, when they get to be too much for me, I can go home.

[pahjo2]

i response to jon-marc we always have thanksgiving at our house. we have two daughters and they always bring a dish or two. they always ask there mother what she wants them to bring. our son-in-law has started cooking the turkey and that helps. we will do the same thing at christmas. we used to have a family & friends over for a get together a couple of weeks before christmas with everyone bringing a covered dish. no menu just bring whatever you like, we provided the tutkey, deserts, coffee, tea, liquor, etc. if we had nothing but pototoes that is what we had. good times & good friends. the last time was a couple of years ago we had 42 people. my house isn't large enough for 42 people. everyone just filled a plate and hoped for a place to sit. the clean up was a nightmare. we didn't get into bed sometimes till 3:00 am then it wasn't really clean. with retirement we had to stop. been having this get together for about 20 years. can't get anyone to pick up the torch. now we have family and friends over for a couple of hours on one saturday before christmas for snacks. i guess i am very blessed. i wish everyone shared my view about nudism but they don't so i'll need to stay dressed. stay nude and stay happy. happy hollidays to all. pahjo2

[MichelleCA]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jon-Marc:
I have a nephew who was always bad about showing up at my daughter's at mealtime. She's too timid to say anything and complained to me. I told him that she would appreciate it if he called before coming over, and that she has 6 mouths to feed without him inviting himself, his son, and his girlfriend over there at mealtime. He said, "She never said anything to me." I told him that he didn't have the nerve to say anything and asked me to say something. I guess he rarely goes over there any more. That tells me he went over there for free food. I always call before going over there and ask if it's convenient, and I never eat there unless she invites me, even if they're eating while I'm there. I always eat before going over. I certainly never hint and say I'm hungry, but my nephew would. Actually he would just start eating without being asked. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>My cousin is also HORRIBLE about this, She calls every night at dinner time and asks what we're doing for dinner, She always has us pay. So we've stopped answering the phone/inviting her. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif It's hard sometimes to do that to your loved ones, But you've got to stop at some point. She also tried to invite herself to my mother's birthday dinner yesterday, Which was being paid for by a family friend, My Mom gave a firm NO. My Cousin didn't bring anything for my mother for her b-day and didn't even SAY happy b-day, Needless to say her Xmas gifts were cut down a bit. :-/ We dont give to recieve but that's a bit rediclus. Even MY BOYFRIEND told my mom happy birthday, where as my cousin didnt.

[MikeJB]

Yeah I tell everyone happy birthday and im usually the one who likes to help out money wise because its easier for me than other people, but I mean I hope I have a good xmas this year, im gonna be with my girlfriend so it should be pretty good /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[MichelleCA]

MikeJB Wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Yeah I tell everyone happy birthday and im usually the one who likes to help out money wise because its easier for me than other people, but I mean I hope I have a good xmas this year, im gonna be with my girlfriend so it should be pretty good <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Holidays should be spent with people you care about and love. That's why half my family isn't invited /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif However MikeJB (bf) is, and so is my cousin since she's orphaned every major holiday and her birthday..And we're not going out so there's nothing for her to <u>not</u> pay for. And my Mom's friend whose Mother died a few years back. It should be a fun time. My Parents like to talk and play games, So we'll see. As long as I dont get underwear again..I'll be happy.

[MikeJB]

Yeah you dont need underwear anyways. Its just one more thing to have to put on during the day. /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif Too bad your family isnt into the whole nudist thing or we could make it a nudist holiday but since you dont have a heater I guess that wouldnt be very fun, unless it was during the day /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif It sucks to have to dress for xmas.
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[R.M.GREENMAN2]

Yule is today!!!!
The sun is returning!!!

Mike,

It sucks to have to dress ANY time. I threw my underwear away and don't wear any. I also don't own a swimsuit. My swimsuit is what I was born in--the natural swimsuit.

Merry Christmas, or whatever holiday you celebrate at this time of year, to everyone, and a Happy New Year!

[MikeJB]

Ok, ive been considering not wearing my underwear either and since you dont I just thought id ask if you think this is a good idea or if I should just stick with em because I like to be as less clothed as I possibly can and I was just wondering what your thoughts were on this. Also I dont really swim anymore because I gotta wear my fricken swimsuit and personally I think its useless and im just gonna wait till I can go someplace where I can swim NATURALLY! Yeah anyways my girlfriend's parents wouldnt like nudity and neither would her cousin, her cousin cant even handle us hugging and kissing, I mean this is something natural too and theyre just bein all stuck up, so I mean yeah xmas is gonna be kinda depressing but its still gonna be fun. Anyways I want your input Jon Marc because you really seem to be a real good advocate of the hate clothes/wanna be nude 24/7 type of person so I just think its fun to read your posts because I have alot in common with them.

[MichelleCA]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MikeJB:
Yeah anyways my girlfriend's parents wouldnt like nudity and neither would her cousin <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>My Parents were raised to believe Nudity isn't right, And That's what they believe. I've been raised the same way, Which is why..When we're nude together I run to grab a shirt everytime my mom calls LoL, I wish they were more understanding, But again I think it's just I'll have to wait until I'm out on my own!!

[MikeJB]

Yeah parts of that above posts I feel are wrong and misguided. I mean I had good intentions but I said some things about my gf that made her upset *I wont go into them, as she wouldnt want me to* but I just wanna say im sorry for those things I and I actually have no quarrel with your family, I just dont agree with their beleifs and I just didnt think xmas would be as good in that context but that said I think that we will both have a wonderful time and I actually do respect and love Michelle's parents and family alot. So basically im sorry and if anyone else thinks that my previous statement as far as the family issue was out of line please let me know but please dont get into anything really personal because my girlfriend might take it the wrong way and I love her veyr much and I just I shouldve said what I said in a different way. I think its partially to blame because i am sick and also because sometimes I ramble on and say mean and sometimes rude things that I shouldnt and thirdly and most importantly I was just ignorant of my girlfriend's feelings and didnt think before I acted and well I just wanna apologize for that and wish everyone a merry xmas.

One good rule to go by when speaking or writing: Would I want this said or written to me?

[MichelleCA]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MikeJB:
Yeah parts of that above posts I feel are wrong and misguided. I mean I had good intentions but I said some things about my gf that made her upset *I wont go into them, as she wouldnt want me to* but I just wanna say im sorry for those things I and I actually have no quarrel with your family, I just dont agree with their beleifs and I just didnt think xmas would be as good in that context but that said I think that we will both have a wonderful time and I actually do respect and love Michelle's parents and family alot. So basically im sorry and if anyone else thinks that my previous statement as far as the family issue was out of line please let me know but please dont get into anything really personal because my girlfriend might take it the wrong way and I love her veyr much and I just I shouldve said what I said in a different way. I think its partially to blame because i am sick and also because sometimes I ramble on and say mean and sometimes rude things that I shouldnt and thirdly and most importantly I was just ignorant of my girlfriend's feelings and didnt think before I acted and well I just wanna apologize for that and wish everyone a merry xmas. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>And I love you too, Go by what Jon-Marc says on this subject though, If your writing something about me/my family/someone else..Think "would I want this to be said/written about me?" if not dont write it. Your also lucky I've learned to kind of "consider the source" with a lot you say, and not take it to heart. Now I just tell you.

/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Happy Holidays Everyone! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[MikeJB]

Thanks hun. Anyways one quick question, whatd you mean by "consider the source" with alot of what I say? I dont mean to be offensive or anything its just that when people say the whole consider the source thing, it usually seems to be in a negative way, just thought id ask.

[MikeJB]

My Parents were raised to believe Nudity isn't right, And That's what they believe. I've been raised the same way, Which is why..When we're nude together I run to grab a shirt everytime my mom calls LoL, I wish they were more understanding, But again I think it's just I'll have to wait until I'm out on my own!!
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Heres a little suggestion for that. If youre gonna go out to a part of the house that you feel your mom might catch you in just take your shirt/clothes with you, especially if all u gotta put on is the shirt because then if you hear her car pull up you can go run for the shirt. Thats what I do pants wise because I usually have an interval between when my parents reach the door and when they come in.

[MichelleCA]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MikeJB:
Thanks hun. Anyways one quick question, whatd you mean by "consider the source" with alot of what I say? I dont mean to be offensive or anything its just that when people say the whole consider the source thing, it usually seems to be in a negative way, just thought id ask. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>We'll talk about that via Im.

I'm curious, Mike and Michelle. /infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif Do you two communicate in person or just on the Internet? /infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

[MikeJB]

No, we have met lots of times in person and we usually talk on the phone or online. Michelle has only been on here for the past day or so and we usually do stuff together but since im sick now its kind of put a crimp on our plans to see each other until I get better. Anyways yes we have seen each other ALOT inperson and its really fun. She just doesnt like to talk about really personal stuff on here, its either that she doesnt trust anyone here or that she just likes to tell me about it but just not other people. I generally trust people here because I trust them more than most textile places online because the people here overall seem more open and understanding and less unsavory than say your usual internet textile forum where almost anyone comes by and they talk about sex and all sorts of unsavory things and nobody really cares what they say.

[florida-david]

mikeJB - ditch the underwear, give commando a try. generally, us cut-boys might have some chafing issues /infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif but you eventually find and buy clothes that are comfy to be commando in. just bath often so you stay clean. as for the girlfriend, i did not notice anything you said that was over the line, but i would tend to keep the posts you both had made limited to i.m. just my opinion.

as for mooching relatives, they should be told they are moochers and if it bothers you, tell them to bring something to the meal or don't come. if money is tight for everyone in your family, why bother with these leaches.

[MikeJB]

Thanks, I was waiting for someone to reply to me about that issue, ive never really tried it, always thought it would be fun and didnt see any reason not to I just wanted some feedback, thanks anyways and if anyone else has any advice that would be welcomed as well.