Dressing up sexy for a dance

This is a spin off from another topic. Some nudist places allow people to dress up in sexy outfits at the dances. Is this a good thing or a bad thing?

Don't we dress up sexy when we go out on non-nudist nights on the town? Perhaps men aren't reading us women right on this issue.

Does it hurt nudism?

Should we be keeping nudism totally asexual? Is it ever really asexual?

This is a spin off from another topic. Some nudist places allow people to dress up in sexy outfits at the dances. Is this a good thing or a bad thing?

Don't we dress up sexy when we go out on non-nudist nights on the town? Perhaps men aren't reading us women right on this issue.

Does it hurt nudism?

Should we be keeping nudism totally asexual? Is it ever really asexual?

[Frank R]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by cyndiann:
This is a spin off from another topic. Some nudist places allow people to dress up in sexy outfits at the dances. Is this a good thing or a bad thing?

Does it hurt nudism?

Should we be keeping nudism totally asexual? Is it ever really asexual? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I know when I first saw this, I was a little surprised. I did find it a little strange to go to a nudist resort to have people wearing clothes. If we are going to be wearing clothes, why bother going to a nudist resort?

[Bob S.]

I feel that for dances, anything that would be appropriate for textile dances should also be appropriate for nudist dances. If we are talking about slinky negligees, that may not be acceptable, but a sexy, low cut dress should be fine.

If the dress of the participants goes beyond the line of sexiness and into sexual, that is the time to have the person change. If the latter is accepted, then it would hurt the nudist atmosphere.

Now for the idea of nudism as asexual. It is as asexual as public gaterings are. It will never be totally asexual, but it should not be sexual either. There is an appropriate balance.

Bob S.

[melissastarr]

Humans are sexual creatures and I think it would wrong to deny our sexuality. Saying that, I think it's important to identify when, how, and where our sexuality can be demonstrated without offending the majority of those around us. Being nude, to me, is not necessarily sexual and I think I'd be upset to go to a nudist event in which sexuality were being emphasized, whether it be with people walking around in suggestive lingerie or people talking about topics more appropriate for private conversation. Overt sexual overtones at a family-oriented nudist venue, as most nudist venues would describe themselves, will prove to textiles that nudism IS all about sexuality and I think that will hurt our image as a family-oriented style of recreation.

Melissa

Lets make some clarifications here. Things are already getting muddy.

Dresses are ok but not lingerie? What if it were a net dress? or lace? After all,we are nudists. And if a net dress is ok, is all lingerie not ok? How about those filmy wraps women use? What if they were wearing strips of leather? Aren't these just ways of dressing up the body nudist style?

And to address Melissa...

the dances at my club and many clubs are in a clubhouse, not around the pool midday and children aren't allowed in. At Como we actually have two dances, one on Friday night outside that includes the kids and the other on Saturday nights for adults only. The attire allowed at the adult dance is not permitted in other public areas in the park.

Shouldn't the parents have a little time to unwind at a dance without children around? Don't you ever dress a little sexy when going out on a date? Because we are nudists isn't it ok to dress up nudity sometimes? Women tend to like to do that outside the resorts. Why not inside too?

Despite my love of being nude and my dislike of wearing clothes, I find myself looking at clothes in a store and thinking that I like this or that and wonder how it would look on me.

I always wonder why anyone would wear ANYTHING at a nudist resort if they didn't HAVE to. If a dance calls for some clothing between nude bodies, then wear as little as possible. Sexy is in the eye of the beholder. What's sexy to one wouldn't faze another. I for some reason unknown even to me find black on a woman to be sexy. I look better in black than any other color. I used to know a woman at work that I found it hard to take my eyes off of when she wore black. Man! Did she ever look SEXY!

[R.M.GREENMAN2]

How about togas? THEY ARE LOOSE FITTING ,airy and would be acceptable to slow dance in. Lingerie seems to put a sexual aspect on things.

[MikeJB]

Humans are sexual creatures and I think it would wrong to deny our sexuality. Saying that, I think it's important to identify when, how, and where our sexuality can be demonstrated without offending the majority of those around us.
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Yeah i think Stu would love to use this quote against nudity. I know that nudity and sex/sexual behavior are not inherently the same thing but im sure he in some funny way thinks they might be and would use this against us the part where it says do our best not to offend the majority. I just think that if you go to a nudist resort, BE NUDE *except first timers or when its cold or for medical reasons* but otherwise go nude or just go to some textile place. I mean nudist resorts have too much trouble with society at large not accepting clothes and also with pervs coming to their resorts wearing clothes. I mean its almost as bad as those kids you get going into textile swimming pools in shirts and sometimes full clothing, if they cant wear the suit then they shouldnt be allowed in, same with nudity, if you cant be nude then you shouldnt come. Sounds kinda harsh but I think theres some logic to this.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by R.M.GREENMAN2:
How about togas? THEY ARE LOOSE FITTING ,airy and would be acceptable to slow dance in. Lingerie seems to put a sexual aspect on things. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>All you guys are missing the point here, probably because you are guys. Women like dressing up pretty and sexy.

I went to a huge party last night and many of the women had provocative clothing on. Of course there was a sexual aspect to it. If all that happens is women dancing in pretty and even sexual clothes is there any harm? This doesn't mean anything sexual was going on or was expectedto happen.

It's a female thing! I know I had some sexy clothes on! Was I expecting to have sex? Of course not. Was I looking to hook up with swingers? Nope, not even.

Try thinking about this from a female point of view.

[MikeJB]

I think that if you wear clothing other than in practical reasons, all it does is promote shame and I know women like to look pretty but most of them should just feel pretty the way they are because most women are pretty just being naked and being themselves and thats the way it oughta be, if you add anything else, I just think ur fooling yourself with false beauty. real beauty is in who and what you are and whats on the inside.

[aunaturelone]

Hey guys... dressing up sexy for a dance is good for nudism. It reinforces the notion that nudity isn't inherently sexual. Otherwise, why bother with the outfit? It's the clothing that makes it sexy.

Body paint could have a similar effect but would make a real mess.

About 30 lbs and 20 years ago when I was doing strip-o-grams, the sexiness wasn't that I got naked. I could do that in about 5 seconds and that would have been that. The sexiness was in in the layers of clothing I wore and my gradual removal of same.

The desire to see what was underneath is what makes clothing sexy. Reveal all and there is no mystery.

When I wear clothes in a public environment, I dress like an ordinary textile would. I'm not going to push the envelope by seeing how little I can get away with, it's either nude or it's within the range of what the average textile impaired would consider "good taste". I won't wear just a thong or a g-string or whatever. Those kinds of "clothing" are intended to draw atention to what they are covering and to send a sexual signal. (And generally look very silly if you don't have the body for it. /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif )

Saying people can't dress sexy for a dance is the same as saying they can't ever be publicly sexy. I'd find that a depressing state of affairs.

[Trailscout]

Aunature,

You seem to be missing the context of this.

We are not talking about clothing that has merely a little sex appeal, this was a dance in which some ladies wore underwear or lingerie in a sexually provocative manner. What's worse, this was done at a family nudist resort. Given the current state of hysteria in Florida about nudist resorts and sexual rumors, this is the last thing we need. There are swinger resorts and textile clubs aplenty for that sort of thing.

Lake Como has a good reputation and deservedly so, but these late night sexually-titillating dances are clearly inconsistent with their own goals of providing a wholesome family atmosphere.

Not only that, there are precious few places in the USA where we can enjoy nudity. Clothed events at nudist venues only serve to intrude on our territory.

Those of us who are Christians are called to dress modestly according to scripture. Public sexual dancing in erotic underwear is not modest. There is a good reason that erotic dancing starts with riske clothing rather than nudity. Simple nudity is quite modest, even boring to those looking for seduction.

[Rex]

Thank you, cyndiann, for a wonderful topic, one close to my heart.
I realise most people don't think of dancing quite the same way as I do. I've been ballroom dancing since I was 16. Dancing is inherently sexy. Just as rock-n-roll was condemned by conservative society in the 50s, so was the Viennese Waltz criticised, when it started to sweep Europe many years ago.
The Viennese Waltz is romantic, the Cuban Rhumba sexy, the Cha Cha Cha cheeky and flirty and the Jive has a touch of the young rebel about it.
If you get the chance, watch Latin dancers, on TV or video, at world class competition level. The World Championships are held every year at Blackpool, England. The competitors are top athletes, in every sense of the word. The guys generally aim for an artistic macho look, whilst the girls costumes are sometimes so brief that you wonder how they hold together. The result is unashamedly sexy.
My dancing is social, not even remotely at that level, but, if you have the feeling, the concept remains the same.
Dancing is an active sport, not suited to heavy, restrictive clothing, for either men or women. A man trying to dance in a suit is ridiculous, but, just like wearing clothes for swimming, common sense is sometimes lagging behind, because of tradition.
My second wife was a beautiful dancer, and she'd worked as a model and in the fashion industry. She knew how to design and make sexily elegant dresses and she knew how to move in them,too. No tan-lines either! I'm not a jealous man, I just loved to be with her, and I still miss her and think I always will.
Time moves on, I have a lovely lady-friend, and she is a good ballroom dancer too. With my encouragement and approval, she is wearing briefer dresses than when we first met.
My dancing is in public ballrooms and, of course, nudity is out of the question. However, Kathy and I did dance many times at nudist functions, some of which were clothes-optional, and also at the Perth Arts Balls [run by the gay community, but all welcome], where we took the opportunity to be somewhat outrageous, but not nude.
After all, it's not hard to be sexy without being vulgar, and outrageous and still be tasteful. And I can't see that doing any harm to one's reputation, whether it's the nudist club, the tennis club, or Stu's health club!

[melissastarr]

I'm an odd female and I'll be the first to admit it. At present (and all my life, really) I don't date and I don't like to dress sexy. My normal work attire is a cutesy teacher sweater and khaki/navy/black pants.

BUT, I realize that I'm in the minority here and I absolutely don't look down on those women who like to get dressed up, look sexy, and go on dates. When I hit that point in my life I'll certainly ask for some pointers from you all! (Especially women, so stick around here Cyndiann!)

When I wrote my last post here I was thinking of a few things. First, a sexually-charged environment is no place for children. Especially at a place advertising a family-friendly atmosphere. It sounds like Cyndiann's club has made this a non-issue by having a child-friendly dance as well as an adult dance. That works perfectly.

My second issue is destroying the image of nudism. Many textiles HATE nudism, thinking that nudity= sex. While we are sexual people, that does not mean we're having sex at every moment that we're nude. Nudism is not a sexually-charged lifestyle and I don't think it should be. That being said, there are places all over the 'regular world' in which people can dress sexy for an evening to go dancing. My understanding- which could very well be wrong since I've never been to these places, so please correct me gently if I'm mis-speaking- is that a lot of people go to these kinds of dances for sex (in the textile world, anyway.) While one person may go with the most innocent of intentions, I could see how such a dance would bring out the swinging crowd and/or draw those who are simply looking for a sex-mate for the evening. Which brings about a few questions: 1) Am I wrong? (It's happened before!) 2) Is it OK for nudists to have sexually-charged dances/ swinger dances? 3) What effect do these dances have on the publics perception of nudism?

I don't know that I'm against such dances as I'm too uninformed about the topic to have a specific opinion. Right now, these dances are not to me. But I think it would be wrong of me to push my preferences on others. I'm just throwing out my thoughts here in hopes of spurring on the discussion and educating people- including myself. This is truly an intriguing topic to me.

Melissa

[Bob S.]

"Women like dressing up pretty and sexy."

I agree cyndiann. But nudist parks should have certain dress codes for their dances, just as they have behaviour codes for public. If the outfit is screaming "F*** me now!" it probably isn't appropriate. But if it is a bit more reserved while being sexy (which is not a bad thing anywhere) it is fine.

I also agree with cyndiann that a dance that is held for adults-only is allowed to be a bit more provocative. Just as long as the overall tone of the dance does not fall into any breasking of any park rules.

"2) Is it OK for nudists to have sexually-charged dances/ swinger dances?"

No Melissa, I do not believe that nudist parks should have this kind of dance. One whose focus is on the sexual aspect is totally out of line. The focus hould be on the socialization and dance aspects.

"3) What effect do these dances have on the publics perception of nudism?"

Well, the dances that you described above would have a negative effect for those who would want to expose them. But just a regualr dance in which women were dressed sexily would be fine.

Bob S.

[Buzzer]

Dressing in a revealing fashion and dressing in a sexy outfit may be two different things, to me. I think a woman may be sexy in the way she carries herself, rather than what she is or is not wearing. Head erect, back straight, smiling when appropriate, & all those things your mother probably told you when you were young are sexy, too.

[NoodJuggler]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by melissastarr:
I'm an odd female and I'll be the first to admit it. At present (and all my life, really) I don't date and I don't like to dress sexy.

I don't know that I'm against such dances as I'm too uninformed about the topic to have a specific opinion. Right now, these dances are not to me. But I think it would be wrong of me to push my preferences on others. I'm just throwing out my thoughts here in hopes of spurring on the discussion and educating people- including myself. This is truly an intriguing topic to me.

Melissa <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Edited for space....

It is a very intriguing topic. And I have to agree, what does that have to do with Nudism? I guess that this proves that there are different types of nudist. So we all can't be lumped together. I went to some of the links (something like bikefest)where the women had body paint on. Nothing on top except different designs painted on their bodies. Some we very nice works of art. But my wife said..They're not nudists but exhibitionist, in that they want people to stare at their bodies. A nudist doesn't need to paint their bodies, that isn't what a nudist is. Same way with dances, you can have dances but do you need to dress up in revealing clothing? or skimpy outfits? So that it will arouse someone?
If you were just introducing someone for the first time to a nudist resort or just to nudism and you told them that it was Nonsexual and you walk into the dance and they saw the way the people were dressing what would they think? Yea, nonsexual my a*s is what they would say. And then nudists wonder why people are against us and don't want us having a nude beach because of things like that going on. A outsider looking in would not even see wholesome activities but would just remember the sexual connotation behind it. There is a fine line between a nudist and an exhibitionist and some are crossing it..You can be uniformed and still see what is going on. Maybe people should listen a little bit more to certain people who post here..Keithmj

And Melissa, welcome to the group, hope you learn alot. If you have any questions ask "Dear hw" Just a inside joke. /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif LOL Bye.

[tobias]

For what it's worth, I agree with Keithmj. Nudism shouldn't show itself as sexual if we want any kind of public acceptance. Sexual activity should be private. If you want that type of dress there are plenty of textile clubs that allow it. I'm ready for the incoming.

[wannabenaked2001]

Going outside of the nudist environment for a moment, I love it when my wife gets all dressed up when we go out. I think she feels good about herself, and I sometimes notice other men noticing her as well. This makes me feel all the more proud to be with her. We don't have sex with eachother (or anyone else) while we are out, but we do feel "sexy".

With that said, step back into the nudist environment and simply realize it's the same concept, but the limits of acceptable attire become less restricting.

The impact of this practice on what I refer to as "the nudist's movement", maybe another matter.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Tobias:
For what it's worth, I agree with Keithmj. Nudism shouldn't show itself as sexual if we want any kind of public acceptance. Sexual activity should be private. If you want that type of dress there are plenty of textile clubs that allow it. I'm ready for the incoming. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Well that is the whole point... if it's ok outside the nudist clubs what makes it not ok inside? Wearing a sexy outfit isnt "sexual activity".

Why should we pretend to be something we are not when we go inside the nudist clubs? If wearing sexy clothes is given boundaries, like at the Saturday night dance I think we are only showing our human side. Pretending we are eunichs isn't the answer. We should be able to be ourselves.

As for public acceptance, most people don't even know we have dances much less what we wear to them. The average joe on the street knows absolutely nothing about the reality of nudism.

If this were really a problem why is Paradise Lakes Business of the Year for the local Chamber of Congress last year? They have some really out there costumes on the dancefloor, way past what my club does.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by wannabenaked2001:
Going outside of the nudist environment for a moment, I love it when my wife gets all dressed up when we go out. I think she feels good about herself, and I sometimes notice other men noticing her as well. This makes me feel all the more proud to be with her. We don't have sex with eachother (or anyone else) while we are out, but we do feel "sexy".

With that said, step back into the nudist environment and simply realize it's the same concept, but the limits of acceptable attire become less restricting.

The impact of this practice on what I refer to as "the nudist's movement", maybe another matter. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Hey you said that very well! /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Sol-Searcher]

Now, I'm an older man, pipes don't work the way they used to (full automatic). Get me in a group with a hundred nudist women nude, and we will talk, joke, play games, and socialize and nothing will happen. But just let one of the women that I just spent hours with come out in one of those dental floss outfits and BEEEESAAAAAAANG, I feel like I overdosed on Viagra. It is better to be totally nude, however I can understand how a woman as well as a man would like to feel sexy from time to time. (I just wish I could remember what it was like. LOL)

Your friend,
Randy

[FLslimguy]

While Como is my local club... I have yet to be at a dance there, and consequently I should not be one to speak of the "quality" of outfits there, however, I am also one to say that even tho Como is a family resort, there is a time and place to be who we are...as adults. The only problem I have is that I may lose a little of my own self-guard at being polite and asexual. I fear that I might be a little bit too involved.

Just out of curiousity CA, how are the men attired at these dances?

The men can be nude, wear thongs (the only place on the property where they are allowed), something sexy like net pants or even fully dressed.

The point being we can and do wear anything we feel like wearing basicly and can be ourselves. Sometimes they have blacklight dances. They change out the regular lights for blacklights and have glowpaints for us to paint ourselves with.

That is why I like Como so much. We are comfortable with ourselves and can relax. We don't pretend to be non sexual. That would be a huge lie.

There is a huge difference between dressing up and screwing on the dancefloor.

[FLslimguy]

There is a fine line between a nudist and an exhibitionist and some are crossing it..You can be uniformed and still see what is going on. Maybe people should listen a little bit more to certain people who post here..Keithmj

I feel that..people are people and they all differ. I would not ever want to be nutshelled into a mold that some people "perceive" me to be. If a "private" (read:adult) dance is held at night, I see absolutely nothing that harms the essence of what nudism is. Are we as nudists to forget we are still individuals? Should we force ourselves to fit into a conservative mold even if we are interesting, artistic or individualistic personalities? I do believe in nude not lewd and think that I would be a tad more comfortable knowing that a garment or two is ok..for a dance. And I am NOT an advocate for "clothing optional" in a nude resort. But a nighttime dance might make CO a bit more fun.

[aunaturelone]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>There is a fine line between a nudist and an exhibitionist <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>For my money there isn't any "line" at all. Nudism and exhibitionism are on different continuums. They don't measure the same traits.

An exhibitionist is merely someone who likes to draw attention to themselves by "showing off" in some way. The attention is the pay off and most folks prefer positive atention while an unhappy few prefer negative attention. There are many reasons why one might do this, some are beneficial, some are hurtful and some are unfathomable. A nudist who works to develop an exceptional physique or a shapely figure is almost certainly an exhibitionist. So would be a nudist stand up comedian. (Or a narcisist. Likely both. But there's nothing wrong in that, either.)

A nudist is someone who engages (or wants to) in social nonsexual nudity, not someone who believes that all social nude activity has to be nonsexual.

May I add to your statement by commenting that exhibitionism has many different levels. Many times when a nudist uses the word exhibitionist they tend to mean the most extreme definition when in reality we all have a little exhibitionist in us (the great majority of us anyway). That extreme definition is used to show people who usually have a strong sexual connotation attached to it as well.

I feel we should not always use the word in a negative way, especially if it is thought of in a perverted manner. Sometimes a little pride in how we look might cause us to appreciate it if someone likes to look at you. I feel that is harmless and surely not perverted. It is a much better alternative than living with body shame!

[Naturist Mark]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by cyndiann:
Many times when a nudist uses the word exhibitionist they tend to mean the most extreme definition when in reality we all have a little exhibitionist in us (the great majority of us anyway). That extreme definition is used to show people who usually have a strong sexual connotation attached to it as well. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Absolutely

Exhibitionism - the extreme definition - is a sexual deviancy where people get their rocks off by offense, shock, alarm and fear in their victims.

Exhibitionism - the mild form - is 'showing off', where someone wants to be seen and admired by others willingly. A bit of this from time to time is perfectly healthy.

The commonality it that both are seeking attention - they want to be seen.

The salient difference is whether the intention is to elicit positive or negative reactions from others.

Sometimes it isn't quite so obvious which is which though. The 'hero' who insists on parading his tumescent pecker up and down the beach may actually be seeking approval (and may find it from a very few) but is in fact eliciting negative reactions from most.

To much of the textile world we nudists are all exhibitionists. But I dispute that. Most of us aren't craving to be seen, we aren't trying to elicit positive or negative reactions by being seen. We just don't care if we are seen.

-Mark

[tarsus]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by cyndiann:
This is a spin off from another topic. Some nudist places allow people to dress up in sexy outfits at the dances. Is this a good thing or a bad thing?

Don't we dress up sexy when we go out on non-nudist nights on the town? Perhaps men aren't reading us women right on this issue.

Does it hurt nudism?

Should we be keeping nudism totally asexual? Is it ever really asexual? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>you know i don't think it really is a question of good or bad;but rather its just something differant to do,like i do not eat most meats,but somtimes i eat buffalo,so i am not true to the cause so to speak but i still consider myself vegetarian.
as for nudism being asexual,our conditioning just about makes that impossible,we are after all sexual beings,it is in our nature,but we are on a differant level then most textiles i belive.does that make sense?
i also never dated much never could understand the female mind /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif just had to throw that in there. hi melissa,good to see you over here.
i use a differant name at the other site.

[melissastarr]

I agree that most people are exhibitionist to one extent or another, but I don't understand why. Why do we want people to look at the most private parts of ourselves? (Yes, I realize that, as nudists, we're supposed to see all our body parts as equal... but you know what I mean, right?) This ties into the discussion because most sexy attire focuses the attention on those parts. I just don't understand why we want attention there. I guess I'm a little clueless as a woman, but I just don't get it. I'm still not 100% comfortable with people looking there at nudist events, though I know there's nothing wrong with it. Feel free to 'clue in' the clueless.

Melissa

[missouriboy]

Melissa, I think it's just the result of so many years of repression, that it's just the novelty of it at first. After you've been a nudist for a period of time, the exhibitionistic trait will diminish, eventually to the point that it vanishes.

If you were forced to wear gloves all your life and suddenly could remove them, you'd feel the same way about your hands, at first.

[aunaturelone]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I just don't understand why we want attention there. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Sometimes you just want to be lusted after. Or perhaps you want others to lust after your significant other for the satisfaction of being envied.

Some religious faiths hold that lust is a sin. Or they place very strict limits on who you can lust after and where you can do the lusting. I don't belong to any of these faiths. I find being lusted after and being lusty (in moderation) to be positive and life affirming. As everyone here knows, suggestive clothing generates must more lust than nudity.

Or as I told my wife, "The day I stop admiring pretty girls, call the coroner and schedule the autopsy!"

[Rex]

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[tarsus]

melissa: let me comment on this one thing.
i heard this many years ago. "if you run barefoot
in the rain,holding hands everyday,then sorting laundry would become a pleasure,to be covented."
just expanding on what was already said.

[davy]

It seems to me that any resort ought to be able to have an "anything goes" dance (or other event) on an occasional basis. (As long as it is advertised as such, so those who might be offended would know in advance not to come, or to leave their children home, or whatever they considered appropriate.) I would think that a nudist resort would be the ideal place for anyone (man or woman) to wear some attire that they might have always wanted to wear, but knew would be inappropriate in a general textile setting. If we are truly supposed to be "unashamed" of ours and everybody elses bodies, then this should not cause us to be upset.

[Trailscout]

Davy,
There are adult-only swinger clubs where you will have ample opportunity to indulge your lusts.

This sort of thing has no place in a family setting, regardless of the time of day.

There are also countless nudist resorts that have dances where you can basicly wear what you want to and be sexy. If it doesn't have a place in a "family setting" why does AANR allow it at their clubs? There is nothing wrong with leaving the kids with a sitter and having a good time dressed up sexy while you dance.

Dressing up sexy doesn't mean you want to F everyone in the room. I guess Trailscout has a problem with controlling himself. That comes from being denied all those years.

[NoodJuggler]

I danced with just a shirt on at Cypress Cove and my wife just had on a baggy tee shirt, some of the ladies just had shaws as it was cold and some can in slacks and shirts or basicaly what you wanted except Bras and underwear which do not belong at a dance anyway.. "The attire allowed at the adult dance is not permitted in other public areas in the park" Then it shouldn't be allowed at all. If your children can't be there then they shouldn't have it. .
Bed room attire or sexy outfits should be left at home and have no place at a nudist resort. It is better to be nude as that is why you go to a resort for. But I am not single and trying to get anyone to notice me so my opinion is going to be different than that of a single persons. AANR does not police resorts but I would bet that if enough complaints were filed that they would talk to the ones that they sponsor on their site or link to. I have to agree with Trailscout, if anyone wants a swinger club then join one but don't try and convert a nudist resort to your liking. If people want to swing let them swing, just do it someplace else. Or better yet, open your own NudeSwingingResort...Cheers...NoodJuggler /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I forgot to add: I don't have a Club, I can't afford a nudist resort..I just have a membership to one... /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif One of these days I will own one... /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

[Trailscout]

Cyndiann,
I guess you think I would be out there on the dance floor compulsively pinchin' fannies at the Sleazy Stripper's Ball. /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

AANR is not doing everything it should, but right now it's all we have as a parent entity for nudist parks and resorts. We need to reform it or replace it, but I'll save that debate for another day.

I don't know why I have to defend the notion of being nude in a nudist resort.

There are plenty of sex clubs where pornographic clothing at dances is welcome.

As long as there are wholesome family resorts, we can disprove the accusations of those who claim that nudist resorts are just fronts for sex clubs.

As long as there are wholesome family resorts that allow sexy clothing at the dances we have proof that not only is nudity not a cause of orgies but that sexy clothing is not either.

And as for NJ's comment about not having areas where children aren't allowed I think that is really silly. Parents like taking a break from the kids and actually talking with other adults. There should never be a requirement that all places at all times be suitable for children.

There are many members that either don't have children or they have grown. To force them to be around children 24/7 isn't fair to them.

[NoodJuggler]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by cyndiann:
And as for NJ's comment about not having areas where children aren't allowed I think that is really silly. Parents like taking a break from the kids and actually talking with other adults. There should never be a requirement that all places at all times be suitable for children.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I don't really see what is silly about doing things that are so out of place that someone like a child couldn't be at. What do you need to do at a resort that someone couldn't be there. If a child could not be at these dances then the resorts should not be advertising as a family resort. Why shouldn't it be a requirement? What needs to be said or done that is so bad? Do they have signs that say no one under 18 is allowed? If not then if I had young children we should be able to have them there. Where do you get a baby sitter when your on vacation with your family at a nudist resort? Do they give free baby sitting service? While the parents wear clothing that is made to turn someone on? Let use some common sense here..They say you can't be making out, or dressing in sexy clothes any where in the resort where people can see you but yet it is OK to do it at a dance? What does that have to do with being gay or single? Can't gays members enjoy themselves without it being adults only?
Can't single members enjoy themselves without it being adults only? Maybe that is one reason why so many resorts don't want gays or singles because of their SILLY ideas. I'm sure that alot of gays and singles would say that it wouldn't matter if children were there as they are not ashamed of what they are doing...I still say that if what is being done is so bad that a child couldn't be there(even if there are no children at the resort) then it shouldn't be done. But I'm neither Gay nor Single so I guess I wouldn't understand.. /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif ..Cheers...NoodJuggler.

Added later: What is the big deal about having to wear sexy clothes? You are at a nudist resort..You are naked..Why put on sexy clothes? That can be done somewhere else. I go to a resort to (Not to wear clothes). It just doesn't make sense...My wife can dress sexy at home and invite some friends over if we want to swing or just talk. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Trailscout...It is fun on the dance floor compulsively pinchin' fannies at the Sleazy Stripper's Ball. /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif That is why they don't want children around, so they can't see what the parents or some people are really like... /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif