Nudism and Piercings

[NudeMike]

Should genital piercings be allowed in mainstream nudist company?

[NudeMike]

Should genital piercings be allowed in mainstream nudist company?

[hw]

Why not? It's a personal choice. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Perhaps you should have put a third choice in there: "I don't care one way or the other". It's a non-issue to me. Only behavior is an issus to me in the resorts.

[gamblefish]

Oh, c'mon Jon-Marc! Commit yourself (no, not to the asylum) one way or the other!!! Take a stand!! Make you choice and live with it...

I voted yes. I have two ear-piercings and an eye-brow piercing. Don't plan to do Stanley the Power Tool, but I have been thinking about my nipples. I mean whether to pierce them or not. Well, that too... /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Some at my club have genital piercings. I stand with Jon-Marc when he says it's the behavior that counts. Now, if a Centauri joined my club... /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

OK. Here's my stand. I have absolutely NO desire to pierce any part of my body. I don't like seeing rings and other things sticking in other people's bodies either. However, I don't really CARE what other people do to their bodies as long as they don't try to get me to do it. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[fred950]

I am SUCH a baby when it comes to needles...the nurses always seem to get a good laugh when I have to get a shot or draw blood for tests. So I cannot imagine sticking something all the way through any part of my body. Having said that if the genital piercing is a simple Prince Albert (a ring that enters the uretha opening and exits out the back of the penis) or a simple stud , I don't mind it. On the other hand, I hvae seen piercing websites with a man with two rows of rings either side of his shaft and his glans resembled a pin cushion. Oooouchhh

[florida-david]

no piercings anywhere for me. don't like needles or unauthorized new holes in my body. the hole idea of additional holes makes me gringe...

[Frank R]

Actually, the shots aren't too bad which is good since I take three a day. However, what really hurts is sticking your finger for a blood sample. As much as that hurts, there is on way on earth I am going to get anything pierced. However, it makes no difference to me if everyone else was pierced or no one was. I really can't see what difference it makes.

[gamblefish]

Getting my eyebrow done didn't hurt too bad, only a few seconds. Make sure you get someone that knows what they are doing, the guy that did mine had done hundreds before, it only took him a couple of seconds.

[shãybare]

I have one ear piercing and it did sting but not bad. I don't want any more but each to his own.

Forver Nude,
Shaybare

[CAPE COD NUDISTS]

Hi Fellow Nudists,

We are finally starting towards warm weather here in the northeast.
I have read several of the postings about gential piercings. Most of them seem to agree on the aspect "who cares, it's a personal choice."
Which I agree, personal choice is a great thing. We've all made one to be nudists. What about gential tattoos? Again a personal choice. I'm considering a tattoo in the groin area, does anyone have one and did it hurt? I have other tattoos and they didn't hurt that much.
By putting art work, either ink or jewerly on the body is a personal choice and a freedom of expression. I don't care what a person looks like - it's how they act and treat others that counts.

[Nude in the North]

I don't care one way or another what other people do their bodies.
That's why I voted YES.
I figure if I don't care what other people do, Why should I rule against it.

Steve

[Trailscout]

Publicly visible genital piercings sends an unambiguous message promoting sex, probably of the kinky S&M variety.

Social nudism is not about sex, so a resort is doing the right thing by banning the wearing of genital piercings in public. Some tattoos may be so loaded with sexual content that they too would be inappropriate in a public nudist venue.

Those who are genitally pierced for intimate moments with their spouse can remove such jewelry when in public. It's just the considerate thing to do. Have a lewd tattoo? I suppose you could ink it out for your day at the nudist park.

But why do this stuff in the first place?
Some of us regard the human body as a work of art and thus piercings and tattoos are just ugly graffiti on a masterpiece.

It is your masterpiece however, so if you are determined to vandalize your own property, go right ahead!

[BeachBum]

I guess this is just like the shaving question and the tatooing questions. Its a personal choice left open to everyone. I shave because I want to. Just like everyone else, i'm an individual with my own personality. Who really cares what everyone else is doing??? Jay

[gamblefish]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Trailscout:

It is your masterpiece however, so if you are determined to vandalize your own property, go right ahead! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I look at it more as "decorating my temple". /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

[Vin]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by gamblefish:
[QUOTE]I look at it more as "decorating my temple". /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Or anything else that needs decorating. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[kevincabrera]

I think it should be allowed. People have different ways of expressing themselves, and body piercings is just a form of expression. I have my nipples and my ears pierced. I did them both for my 40th birthday. Now I don't want to express myself with a genital piercing, but I don't make harsh judgements of anybody who does.

[Angel]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Trailscout:
Publicly visible genital piercings sends an unambiguous message promoting sex, probably of the kinky S&M variety. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Trailscout:

You and I are going to have to agree to disagree on this one, too, just like the tattoo question. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

A visible genital piercing doesn't necessarily promote sex, and definately doesn't necessarily promote "the kinky S&M variety". All I see as "unambiguous" is your distaste for body mods, and your personal tendency to see them as sex-related.

A lot of people get piercings because they like the way they look. Or because they like the way they feel. Or because they're addicted to the endorphin rush and have run out of room for tattoos! /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif (Yes, it's a real thing.) Sure, some people get them because they find them sexually stimulating, too.

But most (note, I said *most*, not *all*!) genital piercings aren't visible to the casual glance - even when the piercee is nude. If you were staring at my labia hard enough to see a clitoral ring, I'd be more concerned about *your* behaviour than I'd expect anyone to be about *my* choice to pierce.

As has been said in so many other threads on so many other subjects, it's *behaviour* that should be the concern, not *appearance*.

[stevenf64]

I agree with Jon Marc not for me but in the nature of saving money i have big hammer in the garage feel free to stop by I am sure we can find a nail someplace /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

[Naturist Mark]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Angel:
A visible genital piercing doesn't necessarily promote sex, and definately doesn't necessarily promote "the kinky S&M variety". <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Trailscout does have a point though. There is almost certainly a strong correlation between these physical alterations (mutilations?) and sexual expressions and practices considered outside the norm by the more conservative elements of the social-nudist community.

Just because a person has genital piercings does not mean that they are into Exhibitionism, B&D or Swinging, but it is a fairly good clue. Many clubs find that it is much easier to ban the clue than to intrusively monitor behavior.

Easy is seldom fair.

Another factor is simply that it creeps some people out. Again, not fair, but some dues paying members and owners of clubs feel they have the right to keep out people who give them the creeps.

I may be wrong, but I believe that rings and other things hanging in genital areas draw some people's attention to that area. I'm not saying htis is wrong; it's just a thought. Anyway, I have a cordless drill and would love to make some extra money drilling holes any place you want them. It might be fun--at least for me. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Trailscout]

Hmmm, let's see if piercing doesn't draw attention to the victim's genitals, if it has no sexual connotations, if it is so unnoticeable that resort owners will never ever see it nor will anyone else, and most would concede that it is painful to have large metal objects inserted into reproductive areas crammed with nerve endings,

then you have no reason to put yourself through this torture!

But I have so much trouble believing all these disclaimers!

It's like having "kick me" tattooed to your butt and then being angry when people read the instructions and give you the boot! (or at least a sharp toenail jab).

[nudeM]

Anyone who has the gonads to want to endure the pain of having their genitals, nipples and tongues pierced, go right ahead. It's your body, and you can do whatever you want to it. I, personally dont care for it, but then again, I'm not your body.

Now comes the real question. How can an individual be accused of gawking if there are pierced jewelry (sp?) hanging all over the place? It's not everyday you see a pierced penis (p.p.). Pierced nipples, tongues, multiple ear piercings, etc., are becoming to be more and more out in the open. A pierced genital still is not an everyday sighting.

Just an observation with my three cents worth of knowledge. Do I get change back?

[Trailscout]

The solution is simple:
TNS, AANR and INA should insist on mandatory (identical) genital piercings on all who want gain admission to any nudist resort.

That way, those who like piercing will get to "wear" them and yet they won't stand out from anyone else and thus call undue attention to themselves!

[BigTim]

In answer to the originating question, I don't have a clear answer. As far as "mainstream nudist company" I assume you mean like nudist resorts/clubs? I believe that if the owner(s) of a resort or club decide that persons with piercings are not allowed, that is their decision and they have the right to make that decision.

Personally, I and my wife don't have any piercings or tatoos and I don't find them particularly attractive on anyone.

So far, my experience has been that 50% of the men I've seen with genital piercings at the nude beach I frequent can't help but touch themselves, which is generally unacceptable behavior among nudists. I'm not talking about a gentle "rearranging" of the package which we all sometimes need...I'm talking continuous stroking, touching, playing, pulling, etc. Maybe this is why some clubs don't allow it...a few who spoiled it for the many.

[nudist_in_Tn]

I have had my left earlobe pierced for 30 years now but I dont plan on having anything else pierced at this time, but if that is your thing by all means do it. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

This is not a joke; I actually read it.

A man had his penis pierced, and it produced a "leak" in the side of his penis. He had urine coming out the side! /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Other than in photos, I've never actually seen a man with a pierced penis, so it isn't all that common yet. In fact, the only place I've ever seen anyone with multiple piercings is on TV shows, and they're usually teens or in their early twenties. I have seen people with a row of rings in their ears, though.

No one will ever convince me that having holes drilled in your body isn't painful. Maybe their pain threshhold is a lot higher than mine. It hurts a lot just to have a needle stuck in me. I was bit by a dog when I was 13 and had to have some very painful shots. I've had very few shots that weren't extremely painful, so why would I want to deliberately cause myself needless pain? /infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Trailscout:
Publicly visible genital piercings sends an unambiguous message promoting sex, probably of the kinky S&M variety. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>No it doesn't. If you feel it does then the problem is in your mind and you need an education on judging people by their looks.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
Social nudism is not about sex, so a resort is doing the right thing by banning the wearing of genital piercings in public. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Piercing isn't about sex either.... and nudist resorts are slowly changing so that they allow them.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>

Those who are genitally pierced for intimate moments with their spouse can remove such jewelry when in public. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Actually many cannot the jewelry without it being a major big deal. To take out my nipple ring it takes two kinds of specialized pliars. Also, people with new piercings cannot take them out because the holes can close within a few hours.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>

But why do this stuff in the first place?
Some of us regard the human body as a work of art and thus piercings and tattoos are just ugly graffiti on a masterpiece.

It is your masterpiece however, so if you are determined to vandalize your own property, go right ahead! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Why do it? Because we consider it a body adornment, same as someone would wear other jewelry.

Why can't you be tolerant of other's points of view? You don't have to like it but at the same time you don't have to be nasty about it either. Why invoke bad feelings over *your* problem?

[j4king]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by naturistmark1:
Just because a person has genital piercings does not mean that they are into Exhibitionism, B&D or Swinging, but it is a fairly good clue. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Could you direct us to the scientific studies which demonstrate this correlation?
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BigTim:
So far, my experience has been that 50% of the men I've seen with genital piercings at the nude beach I frequent can't help but touch themselves <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Could you explain how you arrived at 50%? For example how many DIFFERENT people have you observed with piercings? How many times have you observed each person, and for what length of time? If you observe one person for an hour who doesn't touch himself and then observe someone else for 15 minutes without touching himself, do they each count as the same? And do you have any statistics on how often non-pierced males touch themselves?

[tarsus]

used to wear earrings in the 70s now more people wear them or tattoos then not, so no interest in
piercings.

[tarsus]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by j4king:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by naturistmark1:
Just because a person has genital piercings does not mean that they are into Exhibitionism, B&D or Swinging, but it is a fairly good clue. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Could you direct us to the scientific studies which demonstrate this correlation?
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BigTim:
So far, my experience has been that 50% of the men I've seen with genital piercings at the nude beach I frequent can't help but touch themselves <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Could you explain how you arrived at 50%? For example how many DIFFERENT people have you observed with piercings? How many times have you observed each person, and for what length of time? If you observe one person for an hour who doesn't touch himself and then observe someone else for 15 minutes without touching himself, do they each count as the same? And do you have any statistics on how often non-pierced males touch themselves? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>whats wrong with swinging /infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif
i like to swing----oh, sorry, i am a poor man rich only in virture. /infopop/emoticons/icon_redface.gif

[Naturist Mark]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by j4king:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by naturistmark1:
Just because a person has genital piercings does not mean that they are into Exhibitionism, B&D or Swinging, but it is a fairly good clue. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Could you direct us to the scientific studies which demonstrate this correlation? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Here ya go:

Asked 5 nudists whether in their experience, did people who display genital piercings also display behavior consistant with swinging, extreme sexual practices or exhibitionism.

nudist 1: yes
nudist 2: yes
nudist 3: yes
nudist 4: unsure, where's the beer?
nudist 5: rejected the premise of the question.

How's that for science.
(This study has not yet been peer reviewed).

Know of any contradictory studies?

Anectdotal observations:

Male with multiple penis piercings, early June 2002 Turtle Lake Resort. Complained about being kicked out of Cherry Lane (Swingers resort) for unspecified reasons and Northaven Resort for not bringing a lady with him. Later made passes at several couples. Never seen again.

Male with single penis piercing, late July 2002 TLR. Well behaved, gregarious, nice guy, but clearly had some exhibitionist tendencies. Enthusiastically displayed various barbells, and demonstrated how they are fitted.

Female with labial ring, July 2002 TLR. Nothing notable about her behavior. Another member mentioned seeing her ring when she left hot tub. I never noticed.

Female with nipple rings and labial jewelry. 2002 season, TLR. Hmmmm, how shall I put this... a known 'player'.

It's not unreasonable to see a correlation, albeit not an absolute one. But I don't think it is appropriate to act on such. People should be judged on their behavior, not appearance.

-Mark

[Trailscout]

I still find it amusing that some people wear shiny metal objects that pierce their genitals and insist that it doesn't draw attention to themselves, that they wear all the paraphenalia of sexual torture and insist that it has no significance. Who's fooling whom?

I am glad that a lot of resorts deny admission to this circus sideshow. A lot of people still believe that the human body needs no clothes, nor tattoos nor grotesque piercings to be beautiful and good. Body modifications are just another manifestation of the same body shame and sexual obsession that compels people to wear clothes.

[Angel]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Trailscout:
A lot of people still believe that the human body needs no clothes, nor tattoos nor grotesque piercings to be beautiful and good. Body modifications are just another manifestation of the same body shame and sexual obsession that compels people to wear clothes. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>And it's only *your* judgement that piercings are "grotesque". /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

You see bodymods as a sign of body shame, most of us see them as *ornamentation*. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I like to wear funky-colored scrunchies on my ponytail, too ... it's not a sign of shame or obsession about my hair.

We know you don't like bodymods. That's OK by me. Unless you try to force your preference on me, it's just part of who you are. We all have preferences. Some don't like smokers, some don't like people who drink alcohol, some don't like tattooed people, or pierced people, or black people, or Jewish people.

To me, it makes sense to provide an environment for group gatherings that doesn't risk the health of group members, which can be done by limiting, banning, or segregating alcohol use or smoking. But it does *not* make sense to me to limit, segregate, or ban people for being pierced, tattooed, black, or Jewish. It's just appearance, not a health issue for others.

My 2 cents, YMMV! (And that's OK too!) /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Trailscout]

Hey Angel!
I would love to see your scrunchies.
I have a ponytail fetish. I can never say no to a woman who wears one. /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[Angel]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Trailscout:
Hey Angel!
I would love to see your scrunchies.
I have a ponytail fetish. I can never say no to a woman who wears one. /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Even if she's pierced and tattooed? /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Trailscout]

Well,
We might find some middle ground for agreement if you had "I love Trailscout" tattooed across your hmmm.. any space free for that?

I am totally freaked out by metal. When I hug my sweetie, I don't want to feel cold sharp metal against my skin. Sorry!

My biggest pet peeve is smoking. My favorite nudist resort is a haven for chain smokers.
Yuk!
Didn't nudists used to be health conscious?

[shãybare]

As I said earlier on this thread, I have one ear piercing. It doesn't show on my pic because the pic is before the piercing. The earring is a small circle. Most people don't even notice it but I do every time look in the mirror. I like the way it looks and could care less what anyone else thinks. It is my life, my body and my freedom. Why should I allow others to control what I do as long as I am not harming others. I have found a long time ago, true happiness is from within and trying to control others only leads to unhappiness. People that try to control others have problems because they can't even control things in their own lives and lash out at others in an attempt to make themselves feel better. It doesn't work.
For all the ones that keep trying to tell others how to live their lives, you seriously need to look within yourself to see what is really making you unhappy with the world.

Forever Nude,
Shaybare /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

[gamblefish]

Hey shaybare, you'd better be careful. That earring is going to draw undue attention to your ear, and we all know where that will lead. Soon you will be into all kinds of kinky ear things. Like auricular bondage, lobe lashing, multiple ear-gasms...

BTW, those who say happiness comes from inside probably don't have a lot of money...

Trailscout, I love ya man!! You do know that body piercing saved your life, don't ya??

[hw]

Good points Shaybare! I had both ears pierced as a teen....just one hole each....but it seems I've developed algeries to metal so I don't wear earrings very often. My daughter on the other hand had pierced ears, nose she did it herself when she got bored one day, her tongue, and now below her bottom lip. She did accidently pierced her eyebrow with a cowbell one time though, she let that one close up.
Gamblefish....I don't think your last comment about piercing was quite on topic. But I get it. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Angel]

Interesting site, tem315 - and interesting that they specifically suggest wearing one of their rings to "nudist events".

I'd be able to take their "no big deal, why not wear rings there, too" attitude better if there weren't so many porn links on the site. Seemed their intent was very definately sexual, not adornment.

[tem315]

I agree, after I posted,I thought that I should have warned people about the links. Well they won't get any of my money, I just took their idea and made two myself. My wife thought that I was weird but the last time that I wore it I think she thought it was kinda nice. I take it off for special occasions though

[thonglover]

I have 3 c-rings I wear, one behind the glans, and 2 behind the whole package.
Then I also have 2 scrotal piercings (rings) plus I shave my entire body.

Doesnt seem to bother too many people.

[tiger79]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by thonglover:
I have 3 c-rings I wear, one behind the glans, and 2 behind the whole package.
Then I also have 2 scrotal piercings (rings) plus I shave my entire body.

Doesnt seem to bother too many people. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Hmmm, thongs, c<span class="ev_code_BLACK">oc</span>krings, piercings, shaving - have you ever wondered whether you're a little pre-occupied with a certain area of your body?

[Fuzzy Nuts]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by tiger79:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by thonglover:
I have 3 c-rings I wear, one behind the glans, and 2 behind the whole package.
Then I also have 2 scrotal piercings (rings) plus I shave my entire body.

Doesnt seem to bother too many people. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Hmmm, thongs, c<span class="ev_code_BLACK">oc</span>krings, piercings, shaving - have you ever wondered whether you're a little pre-occupied with a certain area of your body? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

What happens when you go through airport aecurity and you set off the alarm? -An embarassing strip search?

[Ken Palmer]

Hey, this is an interesting point here. I will begin by saying that I would in no way pierce my body in such a manner anywhere. However, I would hate to see what would happen to an individual going through airport security and inadvertently set off the metal detectors. As already said, a possibly embarrassing search may come next!


Ken Palmer



Ken Palmer

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Fuzzy Nuts:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by tiger79:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by thonglover:
I have 3 c-rings I wear, one behind the glans, and 2 behind the whole package.
Then I also have 2 scrotal piercings (rings) plus I shave my entire body.

Doesnt seem to bother too many people. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Hmmm, thongs, c<span class="ev_code_BLACK">oc</span>krings, piercings, shaving - have you ever wondered whether you're a little pre-occupied with a certain area of your body? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

What happens when you go through airport aecurity and you set off the alarm? -An embarassing strip search? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

[foux003]

My sons friend had his tongue pierced. The poor kid was in paine. Then we convinced him that the piercing was in the location to satisfy a male. He went out the next day and had the piercing moved. Now he had two holes and double the pain. Boy was he in pain. We were only teasing him, but what a fool he was. If we knew he would have it moved we never would have said anything about it.

[foux003]

At Dyer Woods you are not alowed to wear any studs, rings or any type of jewelry below the waist.

[fred950]

At Valley View, we used to have a similar rule. That rule was recinded several years ago after what should have been a minor flap. Now there are several male members with c-rings, PAs and frenhams. And females with navel, nipple and clitoral piercings. Most importantly, it has not made one little bit of difference here. NOT ONE.

[tiger79]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by foux003:
My sons friend had his tongue pierced. The poor kid was in paine. Then we convinced him that the piercing was in the location to satisfy a male. He went out the next day and had the piercing moved. Now he had two holes and double the pain. Boy was he in pain. We were only teasing him, but what a fool he was. If we knew he would have it moved we never would have said anything about it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/laugh.gif Nice story!

[thonglover]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by tiger79:Hmmm, thongs, cockrings, piercings, shaving - have you ever wondered whether you're a little pre-occupied with a certain area of your body?
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Lets see, shaving the entire body............that doesnt seem to be a preoccupation for my genitals.

As for the rings, I dont always wear them at the same time, and all 3 at the same time. Sometimes just 1 around the whole package.

As for the security check points in airports, I just simply remove the 2 rings and replace them with clear plastic studs. And obviously I wouldnt wear the rings. Derrr.

[otto]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Fuzzy Nuts:
What happens when you go through airport aecurity and you set off the alarm? -An embarassing strip search? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Declaring one's pacemaker likely results in a hand search.

[Wildcard]

I have been to a few nude " beach" spots where I have seen both male and female with Body piercings. No one really seemed to give a hoot one way or another.
Myself I am pierced both nipples penis [frenum] and one in my balls.
Now if I am in a family group where there can be young people I do remove them . Why ?because it is easyer than trying to explain to a young person why I did it ETC.
On the other hand if I am with adults in an area where there are no children I leave them in. I have been asked a few times about the rings. Got both neg. and Positive comments, but none vulgar. Have made a few friends due to the piercings ,meaning other perced people just being friendly .
I also have worn a "C" ring a few times, but again only at an adult spot. No I was not the only one.
Thanks for the chance to post my views

[newfred]

No Piercing for me, everone to his own choice.

[Croydon]

I had a good chuckle reading the posts.

Seems the middle age are the ones getting into piercing. What is funny is that the middle age participate into the things that young people do as well...only difference, LONG after we have done it and moved on.

Piercings among young adults is over and done with. When I was in college, I was pierced in more than one places. Once the piercing craze was done, I too became bored with it. Now, it seems that the middle age are the ones into it.

[I. B. Nekkid]

I don't think that genital piercings is any different that being a smoothie or having tattoos, and I've seen nudists with all three! People do it as a form of self-expression, to feel unique, and to be noticed (let's admit it). I'll never get a tattoo. I've tried the smooth look-didn't like it. I am not pierced but I'm considering getting a hafada. I used to be freaked out by smoothies and pierced genitals when I first started nudism, but I've learned to accept it and even try it out for myself and come to my own conclusions-I may not like it, but as long as the people who do like it aren't bothering me, let them live how they want to live!

[MoCpl]

I agree that genital piercings are no different than being a smoothie or having tattoos, or social nudity, it is a form of self-expression. I can understand that some people are uncomfortable with these forms of self-expression, but I also don't believe that everyone that is involved in them are either 'swingers' or 'exhibitionist. I have friends that believe that being involved in social nudity is wrong.

My wife and I both enjoy social nudity and both have genital piercings, there are no clubs in our area that accept piercings so we take our business to places that do. We would prefer to spend our money to support our local clubs but they do not feel we are 'their type of people'. We can live with that.

As for piercing being a middle age thing, I agree that I know a number of middle age people with piercing, myself included. Now like myself a number of those people got that piercing or tattoos 20+ years ago when we were not middle age.

I don't agree that the younger people are not still getting them. From what I have seen with my friends teens and twenty somethings and the younger people I work with, they are still getting them. They also appear to be more open about having them then we did at their age.

I also see tattoo and piercing businesses in the local strip malls and not just in the traditional areas you would expect to find them. In my area there is one piercing business next to a Starbucks, across from the post office, next to a bridal shop, across the street from the grocery store and within walking distance from the high school. I find this some what amusing because it appears to be very mainstream and not the non conformance life style of my youth.

My long winded two cents.

[eaglepeakpete]

We often get asked when someone is making a booking to stay with us if piercings are accepted.

My reply is "Its your body, if you are happy with it so are we"

Sometimes one wonders why people do it but its up to them,one guy recently had 12 in his willy,it certainly made him the centre of attraction.

I think we should live and let live, piercings seem to be taking over from tattoos, after all once removed they tend to heal up, whereas a tattoo is for ever.

[vapaa]

Sometimes it looks strange, sometimes interesting, often handsome.
I haven't, but think it's everyone's own choice.

[Mike2Nude]

I've seen some that are too obvious, but I think I'll keep mine the way I got received it. Metal Free.

[rikkiann]

Ive got both of my nipples pierced but i know if im going to a nude beach

its no big thing to remove the rings before i go. I know for some reason

piercing seem to offend some people so its easier just to remove them besides

after laying in the sun allday they do tend to get hot and are uncomfortable.

rikki

[nudebushwalker]

Should genital piercings be allowed in mainstream nudist company?

Interesting to note the original posting was more than 4 1/2 years ago, and people keep resurrecting it...

What I would like to ask is : how can anyone actually think that they could do anything to disallow any body art, ornamentation or augmentation on another person ???

It was still a free world - in this regard - last time I looked.

[steve53]

Personally niether is for me. To each his/her own. If that's what you wish it's ok with me. I've seen some very fine artwork done in tattoos and some piercings are tastefully done. Only the extremists turn me off. It's still their choice. I'm an athiest and that makes me wierd in the eyes of some others. I have Trichosporon, and that makes me look strange and I'm reminded of that everytime I look in a mirror. I'm far from perfect physically (or mentally I'm sure) and that knowledge makes it easy for me to be accepting of others.

I don't concern myself with the actions of others until I feel they're imposing their will on myself or someone else.

Live and let live

[no_tlines]

Should genital piercings be allowed in mainstream nudist company?

I don't have an issue with it...ouch!

[jimb95818]

No. Banning people on the basis of their appearance is dangerous stuff.

(Interesting how many people offer an opinion about piercing in general -- that wasn't really the question.)

[Christian]

I don't see where it really matters where someone has a piercing. What is the argument against this??

[wantago9]

I wouldn't think of it. I would rather kept my body like what God had given me as it is. I accept it as it is. If I want to change my body that might would turn God off. That's the thought I have. I have seen others but that's their business not mine. I just can't judge others. Anyhow, I love Him. Always.

[nakedjohn]

People do whatever they want, but I am against piercings.

[FishyDave]

Where permitted, nipple and simple (e.g. the favourite 'Prince Albert') genital piercings are probably so common now that they don't attract any attention anyway. Anyone who has gone somewhere with the idea of showing off their little bit of metal is likely to be very disappointed.

More extreme piercings do still make me question the wearer's motives, but the only things that really make me uncomfortable these days are items that have clearly been slipped on or clipped on expressly for show or sensation while walking around naked in public. All your average genital piercing makes me thing is "S**t! That must have hurt!"

I've seen a couple of suggestions that piercings are exhbitionistic pretty much by definition: If you notice them, then they're noticeable, QED.

I'm a naturist (call me a nudist if you will) and I see all kinds of men and women when practising social naturism. Some pierced, some not. I notice the pierced ones, and I notice the not pierced ones. How do I know they're not all pierced? Because I see that they're not.

Yes, shock horror, when naked in a mixed setting, I see genitals. I don't focus on them any more than I would on, say, someone's arm, neck or stomach, but they're there in plain view and I see them. It just strikes me that some naturists/nudists seem to function as though they only get through this whole nudity thing by applying little black censorship squares in their own minds as a substitute for covering up. Genital piercings mysteriously stop the little black squares from working, hence their anguish.

To suggest the fact that people *see* piercings is proof that they're exhibitionistic is ludicrous. You could say the same of all nudists, pierced or not. It's a very textile point of view.

[Pants off]

Not sure why but I enjoy wearing a c*ck ring but wouldn't want any piercings though.

[Steveapple]

I think that FishyDave's response is excellent. It sums up why many here have expressed a 'dislike' of genital jewelery. So what if such a display creates a mental association with 'unconventional' sexual styles? That might be true or it might not. What is true is that this association is definately in the mind of the beholder, and not necessarily in that of the wearer. We are all sexual beings, we all think about sex from time to time (some more than others). Why should being nude necessarily be required to cloud out all such thoughts (as many nudists seem to think)?
If a bejewelled wearer brings such thoughts to mind, think them, or ignore them if you can, but don't make assumptions. Just let the wearer be, whether his or her intentions are thought to be sexual or not. Does it matter?

[NakedGary]

Some guys who get PA's spray urine all over from the piercings downward, sideways etc. to a point of having to sit down to urinate otherwise they spray urine all over their pants and shoes.

No thanks for the ouch or spraying urine all over.

[eagle59]

Why would I care what other people did or do to their body? If I want others to be tolerant of me then I need to be tolerant of others; it is not a one way road. As long as they do not lecture me or bother me with their story of why and how the peircings were done I do not care one way or another. It is no ones business but theirs.

[Bobby Hill]

simple answer. NO.

[Fitz1980]

Bobby I have to disagree. I know that lots of resorts still have bans on genital piercings, but I still see people with them at those same resorts. They're pretty common these days and only going to get more common.

[Shavedinohio]

We see nothing wrong with it. I am thinking of getting a Prince Albert Ring my self.

[Codewize]

I don't see any reason for piercings to be banned. Why is that even an issue?

[fre2bnude]

I don't see any reason for piercings to be banned. Why is that even an issue?

So true. If people want to decorate their bodies, it's their business. I think a lot of textiles have genital piercings and their jewellery only ever gets to be seen by an intimate partner, whereas a nudist can show theirs off to anyone and everyone.
Having said all that, a piercing is something I'd never have done, but I'm happy enought see other peoples.

[fre2bnude]

Not sure why but I enjoy wearing a c*ck ring but wouldn't want any piercings though.

What does a c*** ring do for you anyway?

[Fitz1980]

There was a time in this country when people referred to women's makeup as "paint" and "painted women" were considered brazen hussies. Now I challenge you to find a woman who doesn't wear makeup to church. A generation ago tattoos were only for bikers and guys who had been in the Navy, now lawyers and stay at home moms are even sporting "tramp stamps" and ankle tats.

[Joontiki]

Should genital piercings be allowed in mainstream nudist company?
A very old question, i see, but i'll put my 2 cents in anyway.

I am a fan of piercings and have a few myself, including the one in question (plus ears, nose & tongue). Of course female genital piercings are less innocuous than the male counterpart. Nobody but someone i was intimate with would know i have labia piercings. Hehe. And now you know too, but you'll never see them! :-D

So i'll assume that male genital piercings are what we are talking about. It's a personal choice, and if you don't want to get this piercing, then don't get one. But please, don't try to control others... As long as it's not hurting anyone (but the piercee - ouch!), then why not?

Because you hate looking at piercings? Then don't look. ... Because it makes them stand out in a crowd? A lot of people feel the need to stand out (ie: coloured spiked hair, massive diamond ring, etc), whether it's due to insecurity or maybe they just have a different sense of fun than you do! ... Because it puts focus on their penis? Why would that be a problem? I already know they have a penis, and i'm not looking 'down there' anyway when i'm talking to them!

*sigh* If there was more "live & let live", then the world would be a far better place.

*clip* What about gential tattoos? Again a personal choice. I'm considering a tattoo in the groin area, does anyone have one and did it hurt? I have other tattoos and they didn't hurt that much. By putting art work, either ink or jewerly on the body is a personal choice and a freedom of expression. I don't care what a person looks like - it's how they act and treat others that counts.
Well said Cape Cod! Btw, i can only imagine that a tattoo on the groin area would hurt like crazy, but that's only a guess. I'm worried enough about the tattoo i want to get on my back! :-) And yes, i do like genital tattoos as well. I've seen some incredible works of art (both piercings & tattoos) on penises. They definitely make it stand out like a sore thumb, and if i had a penis, i probably wouldn't do that. But if they want to, then more power to them! :-)

In conclusion, since we're talking about "mainstream nudist company", we have absolutely no right to judge or control what other people do with their bodies! There shouldn't even be a "vote", because we simply don't have the right to do that! Now that said, if we're talking about a closed elitist club, they have every right to judge & lay down any laws they want. And of course it would be a club that i would stay away from like the plague!

[fre2bnude]

I said earlier that I was quite happy to see tattoos or jewellery on the nude body, though personally it's not something I would do. I think I'd go further than that and say that I quite enjoy seeing how people like to decorate their bodies, as long as the piercings or whatever are done in a reasonably tasteful way.
I always enjoy seeing the body painting being done at any nudist gathering and often think I'd like to try that, but never get the opportunity.

[Fitz1980]

I am a fan of piercings and have a few myself, including the one in question (plus ears, nose & tongue). Of course female genital piercings are less innocuous than the male counterpart. Nobody but someone i was intimate with would know i have labia piercings. Hehe. And now you know too, but you'll never see them! :-D


It depends on what kind of piercing it is. i know some girls with clit hood piercings that are pretty obvious when nude. Guess it depends on what kind of piercing and weather or not you are shaved.

[naturally nude]

I saw this thread and had to read through the posts. Maybe I missed any post by women, just dudes talking about adding some charm to their wittle willies:confused:

I don't care one way or another it does seem that if you have something extra down there it's gonna draw some attention from both gender so I wonder if piercing down there is for just that reason, to draw attention or if there is some other reason like sexual stimulation, once again I'm a little confused and have always wondered about that.

I did once have a girlfriend who joked around about me getting some kind of piercing down there that would do something for sex but I never looked into it as that relationship went by the wayside.

This thread did remind me of something that just happened a few weeks ago...

You see, I'm in an open relationship with my girl and "we" have a little nudist girlfriend who has both of her nipples pierced, it's kinda neat;)

Anyway, this chick and one of her friends wanted to go for a ride in the jeep and soon into the ride, this girl takes her top off and I noticed she didn't have her hoops in her boobies:D

So I said something and she says... "You think I can put this through one of my boobies?" and I just about ran off the road when I looked over to see what she had in mind!

It was one of those cocktail swords:)

Well... she did it and man did it give me goosebumps! Especially when she pulled it back out:surprised:

Anyway, you boys be careful when tooling around with your tool. Don't fix what ain't broken is what I say. Plus if you go hanging stuff from your johnson your gonna draw attention to it. Heck, I'd look and I'm as straight as an arrow and once I looked I'd feel a little uncomfortable about looking:disappointed:

Best,
N N

[fre2bnude]

I saw this thread and had to read through the posts. Maybe I missed any post by women, just dudes talking about adding some charm to their wittle willies:confused:

I don't care one way or another it does seem that if you have something extra down there it's gonna draw some attention from both gender so I wonder if piercing down there is for just that reason, to draw attention or if there is some other reason like sexual stimulation, once again I'm a little confused and have always wondered about that.

I did once have a girlfriend who joked around about me getting some kind of piercing down there that would do something for sex but I never looked into it as that relationship went by the wayside.

This thread did remind me of something that just happened a few weeks ago...

You see, I'm in an open relationship with my girl and "we" have a little nudist girlfriend who has both of her nipples pierced, it's kinda neat;)

Anyway, this chick and one of her friends wanted to go for a ride in the jeep and soon into the ride, this girl takes her top off and I noticed she didn't have her hoops in her boobies:D

So I said something and she says... "You think I can put this through one of my boobies?" and I just about ran off the road when I looked over to see what she had in mind!

It was one of those cocktail swords:)

Well... she did it and man did it give me goosebumps! Especially when she pulled it back out:surprised:

Anyway, you boys be careful when tooling around with your tool. Don't fix what ain't broken is what I say. Plus if you go hanging stuff from your johnson your gonna draw attention to it. Heck, I'd look and I'm as straight as an arrow and once I looked I'd feel a little uncomfortable about looking:disappointed:

Best,
N N

Yes, any sort of genital ornament or piercing is going to draw attention to that area and then it could start to become sexual with people gazing at those parts. But, I still say that I'm not bothered if people want to add decorations, and I'd look too, and not feel uncomfortable. If they want to decorate their intimate parts they must expect others to look, I suppose it's another form of exhibitionism and as long as it doesn't go too far that's OK.

[Dean Marshall]

I, for one, find piercings and tattoos a mixed bag. Some are well-thought out and artistic, others crass, others very intriguing. I worked for years in public relations, so visible body modifications were tabu for me. But once on a nude beach, I discovered genital piercing. I just liked the way it looked. I didn't consider it to be sexually alluring or to be a desperate scream for attention. Just decoration. Eventually I ended up with several piercings. I got them just because I like the way they look. I keep myself trim, just because I like the way it looks. I shave down below, just because I like the way it looks and feels. I go naked because I love the way the sun and air feel on my skin, and because I like the way my genitals gently flop freely as I walk, no clothing restricting my body anywhere. What matters is how I feel about myself, not how you feel about my appearance.

What I like about social nudism (I prefer the term nudism) is the inherent honesty of hidiing nothing about myself. My body piercings give you bits of visual info, as does my haircut, my sandals, the color of my towel. Yes, I'm a bit "unconventional." Yes, I am "gay." Yes, I am "artistic." Maybe I am "interesting." Within 30 seconds of opening a conversation with me you probably can gather enough info about me to decide if you want to continue the conversation and maybe become friends.

I'm not a fan of body flab, but it has never stopped me from engaging anyone in conversation. Over the years I have had countless invigorating conversations with flabby people at nude places. That iwealth of communi9cation is the number one reason to enjoy social nudism.

If all you can think of when you see my piercings is "Ugh!", and walk away, maybe you need to reconsider yourself in regards to the greater nude community. After all, we all love our skin, but it is what's underneath the skin that really counts.

[eagle59]

once again, WHO CARES?? What someone does to decorate their body is their business, not mine. I could care less who peirced or tatooed what or where. Get over it and get on with your life.

[Eric6420]

I am not a fan of body percing, but people can do what they want with their body. That being said, I do not think that genital percing would be welcome in naturists resorts of Quebec. They tend to be conservative...

[naturally nude]

I am not a fan of body percing, but people can do what they want with their body. That being said, I do not think that genital percing would be welcome in naturists resorts of Quebec. They tend to be conservative...

What the heck is it and how do you keep from ever accidentally visiting one?

Like I said some where along this thread, I don't have any piercings or tats but that's not to say that maybe someday one or the other might become A CONSIDERATION.

I'd hate to think that if I WAS SPORTING A DUMBBELL pierced through my slong and I had my hot tatooed babe by my side ... that the resort I was visiting in Quebec or were the heck ever... would be silently or opening uptight (conservative) about it.

That's not what social nudity should represent or the way nudity was meant to be portrayed in my opinion.

"Come one come all."

N N

[rikkiann]

I think it's up to the individual and it doesnt matter what other people think. Isnt that what nudism is about accepting other popele the way they are. Personallly i dont like genital or facial piercings although i wear small rings in my nipples. If anybody would complain about my piercings although no one evr has i would be glad to take them out besides they tend to get hot in the sun.

rikki

[BrianP]

Hi! My personal thought on all this is, we are all differant and that is makes this world as it is. Just think how borring life would be if we were all the same. Tattoos and piercing are part of who we are. If you dont like them tht is ok nobody has to like them and you dont have to look. I have 5 tattoos and my ear pierced4 time but now only wear one ear ring. I dont think that someone should be discriminated against just because they have piercings or tattoos. The important thing is that you treat people with respect and kindness and do not be absean or rude in you actions. That is what should matter not if you are pierced or tattooed in certian areas.

[eaglepeakpete]

We get more nad more people coming to our complex with body piecings, we have no rules against it. In my opinion I have no right to make judgements about peoples ways, so piecings are accepted. Sometimes people can go over the top, one guy here recently had 38 piecings ( 12 in his willy) .When I asked him why he said it made him happy and made him feel good. He certainly was the centre of attention, but I am sure if most people met him in the street with 20 odd piecings in his face they would cross the street fearing they might be mugged. In fact he turned out to be a nice guy but I think his own worst enemy.

[totallysmoothnudist]

Personally, I don't see any wrong with it. If a man wants to have for example a prince albert at the head of his penis, that's his right. It is his body after all. There is no big deal having pierced nipples, so why would it be different when it comes to genital peircings!!

[Nashoba-nowa]

Personally I find nothing wrong with it, it is just an expression of that individual.

[Vin272]

By putting art work, either ink or jewerly on the body is a personal choice and a freedom of expression. I don't care what a person looks like - it's how they act and treat others that counts.

Exactly. I don't see a problem with it. We are supposed to be very accepting people. If someone looks a little different who cares.

[AarDee]

I have nipple and genitals piercings and find that people do sometimes stare but will not comment. Why not? Just because it's in my penis and any reference to my penis can be considered inappropriate? Again, it's all about the whole being, the whole person.

[vanesa1017]

I have had different piercings at different times in my life (nose, ears, nipple, belly button) and have let them all grow back in except for my ears. I do not think there is anything wrong at all with anyone having whatever type of piercing they want. I think they are much more fun than tattoo's.

My 2 cents.

[jeffers]

Piercings are some peoples way of expressing their feelings, I personally don't like if it is overdone ( who says what is overdone) but it is totally up to the individual. I feel the same about tatoos

[LanceAtCaliente]

Piercings and tattoos?

Fine for people who are into it. Just not my thing, but that's just me. Peace.

[inudist]

They are not for me either. But I do respect that is an individual decision.

[mm1965]

I don't have the guts do it but I do like the looks of some of them.