Thought For The Day

[R.M.GREENMAN2]

"He who will not reason, is a bigot;
He who cannot, is a fool;
And he who dares not, is a slave!"

William Drummond
Scottish Writer
1585-1649

[R.M.GREENMAN2]

"He who will not reason, is a bigot;
He who cannot, is a fool;
And he who dares not, is a slave!"

William Drummond
Scottish Writer
1585-1649

[OZJames]

We continue to use our cell phones regardless of suggestions of dangerous radio waves and will not stop unless SCIENTISTS PROVE IT IS DANGEROUS

We resist eating food from genetically modified crops because the SCIENTISTS HAVE NOT PROVED THAT IT IS SAFE

JAMES /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[FireProf]

Sorry, not feeling too creative so I will steal a phase from a hat and t-shirt I saw during my day visit to Shangri La Ranch, AZ today.

Get Naked
Get a Life!

[Rex]

"We continue to use our cell phones regardless of suggestions of dangerous radio waves and will not stop unless SCIENTISTS PROVE IT IS DANGEROUS"

I carry mine in my car for emergency use only and it has not been used for possibly two or three years. The number is not on my card or business literature and is not given to anyone. The phone is never switched on.

In regard to GE crops, I see them as a possible threat to the environment, virtually forced on farmers and others who do not want them by pollination from adjacent GE crops. The GE-Free food guide, published by Greenpeace, can be obtained [in Australia] from either Greenpeace or the Australian or state Greens political party. I believe they are still free of cost.

[Outlaw]

"Patience is co-operating with the tempo of life."

Don't whose quote this is but seems like good wisdom.

Mike

[NudeAl]

Here's my thought,

When you close the refrigerator door how do you really know if the light goes off?

[OZJames]

REX , I think you might be the exception, modern society (especially business) would not work without a mobile (cell) phone.

Question -- What is the most common phrase used on a cell phone ?

Answer -- "WHERE ARE YOU" ?

JAMES

[Naturist Mark]

Just to be safe I always hold my cell phone at arms length and shout. The people around me admire me for my safety consciousness.

There is no such thing as a crop that is not genetically modified. The only question is how it was modified. Regardless of its method of genetic manipulation, I prefer to further modify much of my food by judicious irradiation with electromagnetic waves primarily of infra-red and sub-radio frequencies.

-Mark

[Rex]

"REX , I think you might be the exception, modern society (especially business) would not work without a mobile (cell) phone."

I'm sure I'm the exception James, but I can live with that. It's not particularly on account of the alleged health issues, I just don't want to be pestered everywhere I go. I have a home office. As you know, I can't currently get broadband where I live,so if I'm on the net, I can't be contacted by phone. When I'm out, my office can receive recorded messages, faxes or emails.

Fact is, in many ways I'm like a primitive man living in modern society. Most of my interests are what could be called "natural" or artistic. I take an active part in the commercial world basicly for financial survival.

[Rex]

Hi Al,

"When you close the refrigerator door how do you really know if the light goes off?"

Going back many years, the British version of Candid Camera used this concept for a very amusing episode. Jonathon Routh [I think that was his name] went into an electrical appliance store and showed interest in a very large fridge. He told the retailer that he was very economy-minded and wanted to be sure the light really did go off when the door was closed. The only thing which would satisfy him would be to be inside when the door was closed. So all the shelves were removed and he got inside and the door was closed on him. I just hope the store owner was suitably compensated!

[NudeAl]

So it did go off then? Well good, there's one I can cross off my list. Thanks Rex

[Zorro]

My brother and I once got the camcorder, got it recording, put it in the fridge and closed the door. We opened it after a few seconds, and then watched what we taped... and yes, the light does turn off! BTW, this was something like ten years ago... lol

[OZJames]

On my fridge I found a button that IS PUSHED when the door shuts. When I push it with the door open the light went out - That saved me buying a camcorder. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

JAMES

[Zorro]

Good point, but how do you know it's not just there to make you think the light turns off??? Maybe there's another button somewhere so that when the door closes, the light actually stays on??? LOL

[OZJames]

Have FAITH

[Zorro]

I do now, especially after doing the camcorder thing...

[missouriboy]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by OZJames:
Question -- What is the most common phrase used on a cell phone ?

Answer -- "WHERE ARE YOU" ?
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The Blonde wife was really proud of the cell phone her husband gave her. When he first called her on it she shrieked, "I didn't tell you I was going to the hairdresser today! How did you know where I am?"

[OZJames]

Another advantage of NUDITY - you cant be found by anyone because you havn't got anywhere to carry the cell phone.

JAMES

OZ...I am sure some resourceful naturists have found a place to carry their cells... /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[OZJames]

ODB - you mean DNA cells (DNA = difficult nudist activity) /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

<span class="ev_code_RED">JAMES</span>

[Chief78CJ7]

I marvel at people that are proud to be 'disconnected' from life.. as it's somehow a testamony to their concentration on 'keeping it real' or 'keeping it simple'.

I wonder how these people choose which timeframe to live in.. Cars are OK, and so is an refriderator. An inside bathroom is also OK, but no cell phones or TV.. OK.. I think that would be living in about the 50s or so, right?.. Why do the Amish settle on their time frame.. I mean, why not go back to living life as it was the 1910s, or the mid 1800s or 1400s? Why is living your life with out 'modern contraptions' make you feel you're living life more than others?.. Is it that you feel better than others who life a modern life? It makes you comfortable? I guess if you live in the 1950s, you'd have to live without more things to 'keep it simple' for your life, huh?

It seems it isn't the particular item you omit from your life to make you feel you're actually able to resist modern life, but just the fact that you *are* resisting things like cell phones, TV..

Incidentally, my wife is this way.. she'd live out in the field back behind our house in a teepee if she could. I claim she'd get cold in the winter, but she says that 'natives' coped, so would she... I reply.. "yeah, they also die from silly deseases because they didn't have medicine and had an average lifespace of 50 years too.."

I don't get the 'thrill' of not using some particular modern invention.. like anything, they're tools. Its not the tool, but how it's used.

I'd like to see 'back to basics' type people go live in caves and eat raw meat (no fire, it's too 'modern') and spend all their waking hours hunting and gathering food and see how long they stand it... heh.

My idea of "roughing it" would be no hot running water /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif. I like all the modern conveniences and have no desire to do without any of them--especially my microwave /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif.

[FireProf]

Chief,

I think you are on target there. It's not the modern conveniences, it's how there used.

Heard the other day that a poll was taken and the worst invention today was the cell phone. Most everyone has one but most people don't care how or where it's used.

I have a good friend that was at a restaurant with his wife. He watched as a mother talked on the phone and the woman's child wanted more to eat but the mother was too busy talking on the cell phone, loud enough for everyone to hear, and then barked at the child to shut up because the child was interupting her conversation. This friend got up from the table and told the woman she should pay attention to her child and get off the phone...to the applause of several people around him.

I do remember keeping ourselves occupied on driving trips with games we would make up. Now a days, parents just pop in the DVD and the electronic babysitter has entered the vehicle at 60+ mph.

Is this staying on topic!!? I may be quilty of straying a bit.

[NudeAl]

Well I'm not sure if they've thought of places to carry their cell phones but I sure have a couple of ideas for them! /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif I'd gladly tell them where they can put it! /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[missouriboy]

NudeAl, you said a couple of ideas. What is the other one? /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[shãybare]

/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gifI don't mind camping out with no frills. I feel more attached to nature without all the modern day conviences around. I don't even need a tent because I can make a shelter with what is there. My children, however, have to have at least a radio and Tent. Some of them have to have a McDonalds close at hand. I do not NOT like conviences, I use them all the time, but going without the use of them helps me focus more on my immediate surroundings.

I can see the benefits of owning a cell phone but they should come with a set of ethics. I commend your friend, FireProf, for confronting the lady. More of us should speak up against these inconsiderate people. I thing many do this because it makes them feel superior to others.

[nudeM]

I just love the outdoors without the modern conveniences, i.e., cell phones, lights, stoves, bathrooms, etc. Nothing like living in nature as god intended, clothesfree included. You don't have a thing to worry about, except where to go when you have to go #2. /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Not to get off subject, but when I was watching the Reagan funeral, when his body was laying in state, I couldn't help but notice (heard) a cell phone go off when others were viewing the casket. What made it so distinctive was that it happened during the changing of the guards, complete and total silence. Modern convenience gone awry? No, just inconsiderate parties involved.

[shãybare]

Alot of people believe living in simpler times is what god intended but in about 20yrs from now, our grandchildren will look back on this time as primitive.

/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif I agree totally, nudeM, some people have no consideration for what is going on around them. And the sad part, I believe, is they still wouldn't have a clue if you expained it in detail. Some people think the world revolves around them.

[hm0504]

nudeM wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Not to get off subject, but when I was watching the Reagan funeral, when his body was laying in state, I couldn't help but notice (heard) a cell phone go off when others were viewing the casket. What made it so distinctive was that it happened during the changing of the guards, complete and total silence. Modern convenience gone awry? No, just inconsiderate parties involved <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

My guess is it was probably an accident leaving the cell phone on. I think the root problem is our the ridiculous and increasing pace we find ourselves drawn too (I admit I'm sucked into it too!). Just today, I'm driving around town a bit, and it strikes me how many people are walking and talking on their cell phones.

We're very much becoming an always connected, always on society (and I'm not just talking technology). Very much indeed, we are being shaped by technolgy rather than the other way around.

[missouriboy]

"...in about 20yrs from now, our grandchildren will look back on this time as primitive."

Grandpa today: "Sonny, in my day we didn't even have electricity."

Sonny: "But Grandpa! How did you get your e-mail?"

[nudistmatt]

You know, in my day we only had 150 pokemon.

[NudeAl]

Okay my observations here.

I think we are, as a society, getting a little conceited. I mean are we really so important that we can not be out of touch for a little while durring our busy day? I admit I have a cell phone. But due to my location it dosen't work half the time. I also hate carrying the thing around. I don't want to be called by the office because they can't find this or that thing. Nine times out of ten they can solve the problem if they get off their buts and try. It is much easier to call someone else to get them to fix their problem.

I like having the cell phone when I am going shopping with my wife as she spends time in parts of the store I find boring. I can spend hours in the sporting goods section or in a bookstore though. I also carry one when traveling incase of car trouble. I don't like to talk on one and drive though. Honestly my wife is about the only person who calls me.

I enjoy going online but unlike most of my co-workers I do not rely on email. I actually go by the various offices that I regularly do business with and ask them whats going on for the day. This social interaction gets me far more info than I would get sitting in my office and just reading the emails. I would then get called by one of my co-workers saying we have to do such and such. I would reply yes I know I did that already. "How did you know?" they would ask, "Well yesterday when we were talking the idea came up so I took care of it on the spot." Boy how did we ever survive before email and cell phones.

[OZJames]

Regarding the above comments,cell phones and other technical developement -

Thought For Today: Just because it's POSSIBLE, doesn't mean people WILL.

<span class="ev_code_RED">JAMES</span>