A Men's Forum

[Bobx23456]

I've noticed that there have been several topics lately that are particularly of and about men, yet we have no "Men in Naturism" discussion space. We have a female specific "Women in Naturism" area provided for the women, but we men have no place to discuss men's issues, not even male biology and bodies.

Some men may not feel a need for a specific place for men's issue topics, but the same is true of some women. Some other men do feel that there is such a need for a men's discussion space, the same need that women have.

It seems to me that the time has come to make CFI into an "equal opportunity" forum and create a men's discussion forum. Can we gave a Men in Naturism forum?

Blessings
Bob

[nudeM]

This entire forum is related to mens issues. The reason there is a Womens Forum is because in the past, females would bring up certain subjects and males would start to interject their beliefs and ideas, thus 'hijacking' the threads.

The Womens Forums is designed for women who wish to bring up issues, or subjects, pertaining to womens interests. They have the freedom of discussing those issues without 'us' intruding. That has enabled the forums to adjust to our female nudists so that they may have their own points of view, without male interference.

Believe me, I remember those days well. We may have lost a great many female nudist here, but with the creation of the Womens Forums, our female counterparts are sticking around a lot longer. It has also helped to bring aboard, more female members.

Males are free to view those discussions, but we are not free to participate. After seeing what happened in the past, I thought it was a great idea. http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/smoking.gif

[Bobx23456]

Originally posted by nudeM:
This entire forum is related to mens issues. The reason there is a Womens Forum is because in the past, females would bring up certain subjects and males would start to interject their beliefs and ideas, thus 'hijacking' the threads.

Uh, no. None of it is specifically related to men's issues. It's all related to general interest issues where women as well as men often respond and participate.


The Womens Forums is designed for women who wish to bring up issues, or subjects, pertaining to womens interests. They have the freedom of discussing those issues without 'us' intruding. That has enabled the forums to adjust to our female nudists so that they may have their own points of view, without male interference.

A Mens Forums would be designed for men who wish to bring up issues, or subjects, pertaining to mens interests. We would have the freedom of discussing those issues without 'them' intruding. That would enable the forums to adjust to our male nudists so that we may have our own points of view, without female interference.



Believe me, I remember those days well. We may have lost a great many female nudist here, but with the creation of the Womens Forums, our female counterparts are sticking around a lot longer. It has also helped to bring aboard, more female members.

I blieve you. We may have lost many men nudists here, but with the creation of a Men's Forum, our men can stick around and discuss men specific issues.


After seeing what happened in the past, I thought it was a great idea. http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/smoking.gif

It was a good idea, nudeM, but what's good for the goose is good for the gander. It's time to have a Men in Naturism forum so that men could discuss penises, for example, or a men's perspective on dating, without participation from females.

Blessings
Bob

[DenitaLC]

If you will notice the "dates" of posts in the Women's Forum....you'll see it is a very seldomly used section of this forum. Heather's recent post being the exception.

I have no problem (why would I) with the men also having their own posting area, solely for them. But remember, anyone can join here and lie about their gender to gain access to special sections. Verifying who the real men, or women, are takes a lot of work from the staff.

I personally don't think it's necessary to have either of these selective catagories but I understand that CFI was trying to make shy women feel a bit more at ease. Did that work? Not in my opinion or there would be many more posts in the Women's Only section.

Just my .02

[David77]

I personally do not need a men's section and I do no think it is necessary, as we talk freely as it is. I greatly welcome women's contributions as it gives more of a natural balance to the discussion, echoing the two gender world. We need more women to contribute regarding all the subjects of the entire board. So thank you, DenitaLC and other women who post.

[MJ_KC]

We don't seem to hold back anything as it is, so I do not see any reason or advantage to having a men's only section.

[nacktman]

This thread reminds me of an old adage: "Redundancy is the haven of small minds!".
There is no need for a separate forum for men only.
It would be naught save a massive waste of organized electrons or in some cases unorganized electrons.

[Naturist Mark]

Hey, if a "Men's Forum" can segregate all the same old same old penis, erection, and shaving threads I say go for it.

[usmc1]

I vote no. There is a woman's only section which is enjoys scant use. It is that way on other nudist sites also.

And, I'm generally opposed to gender selection sites since such usually equate to, in some way or another, one gender is "special" and has "special" issues which only a another member of that gender would understand. It inegalitarian and exclusive.

Believe me if a group of women nudists starts a thread chatting about hormone therapy, I'm not going to participate.

All I'm saying, is these things sort themselves out, and we really do not need to jump through our asses creating an exclusive forum for each sex, political persuasion or sexual orientation or hobby.

[nacktman]

Originally posted by Naturist Mark:
Hey, if a "Men's Forum" can segregate all the same old same old penis, erection, and shaving threads I say go for it.

Put it that way ... it wouldn't be such a bad idea after all!

[Al Bundy]

As stated earlier, unfortunately this forum is primarily male contributions. I do not see the benefit of a male only forum. I also appreciate the female point of view.

[David77]

Women can benefit by penis and erection discussions, just as men can benefit by vagina/ clitoris discussions as well as the physical and mental responses of both genders, because both genders are vitally associated with each other in the bedroom, so learning and understanding as much as we can about each is vital. However, I realize that this forum must not be used as a sex education forum, but nudist have common human problems associated with their nudity at resorts.

[Bobx23456]

Originally posted by Al Bundy:
As stated earlier, unfortunately this forum is primarily male contributions. I do not see the benefit of a male only forum. I also appreciate the female point of view.

The benefits of a men-only forum are exactly the same as the benefits of a female-only forum. At present CFI provides a private forum only for females. If its good for women, there isn't any reason other than sexist prejudice not to provide equivalent discussion opportunity for the men. What's good for the goose, is good for the gander.

It may be that neither sex needs a special forum, in which case neither should be provided.

Blessings
Bob

[Croydon]

Originally posted by Bobx23456:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Al Bundy:
As stated earlier, unfortunately this forum is primarily male contributions. I do not see the benefit of a male only forum. I also appreciate the female point of view.

The benefits of a men-only forum are exactly the same as the benefits of a female-only forum. At present CFI provides a private forum only for females. If its good for women, there isn't any reason other than sexist prejudice not to provide equivalent discussion opportunity for the men. What's good for the goose, is good for the gander.

It may be that neither sex needs a special forum, in which case neither should be provided.

Blessings
Bob </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I think it is clear that a lot agree that a male only forum is unnecessary.

I see no need or use for it.

[MJ_KC]

Originally posted by Bobx23456:
The benefits of a men-only forum are exactly the same as the benefits of a female-only forum.
Not quite. It is virtually impossible for a male oriented discussion on this board to all of the sudden be overwhelmed with female comments.

It is quite easy and even likely that a female initiated discussion will immediately be swamped with comments by males.

It is a simple matter of the fact that the percentage of people who post messages on a regular basis is fairly close to 100% male. It isn't quite that high, but it is close.

[shaneone]

MJ is right, most of the forum responses are by males anyway, just leave them open to everyone.
It makes for better discussions anyway to have all perspectives

[Boreas]

I agree with what others have said. Of course, being female, I really can't comment on the need for a men only forum because I would not use it. Never-the-less, this does seem to be a men's forum most of the time anyway. I see no discrimination against men in here.

[MJ_KC]

Originally posted by Still_Boreas:
I agree with what others have said. Of course, being female, I really can't comment on the need for a men only forum because I would not use it. Never-the-less, this does seem to be a men's forum most of the time anyway. I see no discrimination against men in here.
In case you missed it, the person who asked this question at the beginning of this thread won't be back.

[Boreas]

Originally posted by MJ_KC:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Still_Boreas:
I agree with what others have said. Of course, being female, I really can't comment on the need for a men only forum because I would not use it. Never-the-less, this does seem to be a men's forum most of the time anyway. I see no discrimination against men in here.
In case you missed it, the person who asked this question at the beginning of this thread won't be back. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I had missed that, but I found that thread and the related blog. Thanks be to Doug!

I am catching up after two weeks away, so I hope I can be excused. http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/happy.gif

[nacktman]

Originally posted by Still_Boreas:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MJ_KC:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Still_Boreas:
I agree with what others have said. Of course, being female, I really can't comment on the need for a men only forum because I would not use it. Never-the-less, this does seem to be a men's forum most of the time anyway. I see no discrimination against men in here.
In case you missed it, the person who asked this question at the beginning of this thread won't be back. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I had missed that, but I found that thread and the related blog. Thanks be to Doug!

I am catching up after two weeks away, so I hope I can be excused. http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/happy.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


You may be excused, Ma'am!

To help with the "visualization" of the type of individual that was banned was I offer the depiction below.
Then again I may be insulting "cavemen", I might. http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/eusa_dance.gif

[PascoDoug]

Originally posted by MJ_KC:
In case you missed it, the person who asked this question at the beginning of this thread won't be back.

Indeed.. and it is now quite clear why he asked such a question in the first place - the guy's a mentally unbalanced woman hater.

Just read his sick blog or do a Google search for "bobx23456" for several pages of this guy's disturbing posts.

Here are a few gems:

"What really needs to be done is to recognize that rape isn't a big
deal and stop kowtowing to every f**ked in the head b**ch who cries
"rape!" Stop supporting the rape industry and send them to get
regular jobs. Make the punishment a $20 fine like a parking ticket,
about what the "crime" deserves."

- Bob (bobx23456) advocates rape in soc.men (newsgroup)

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"Neither rape nor consensual sex with a minor is a serious crime,
and neither ought to ruin a man's life."

- Bob (bobx23456) saying the rape of a child is not serious

(and on his blog he has the audacity to label us at CFF "perverts who abuse children")

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"I know we've all been taught that getting a young woman pregnant
is wrong, a "crime," but making men into criminals for acting
normal and male is part of the war on men. You need to rethink
your view. Men are not criminal for f**king fecund women of any
age. Only in the mind of a men=bad feminist."

- Bob (bobx23456) saying it's natural for an adult man to get a
pre-teen girl pregnant and that he has the right to do so

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In the case of young women the so called "child" may be the horny
hormone driven b**ch in heat who actively wanted, sought out, desired,
initiated, pursued, and seduced the older man. The fiction of
statutory rape is part of the feminist hate war on men.

- Bob (bobx23456) claiming that there is no such thing as statutory rape

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[Reinder]

Originally posted by Naturist Mark:
Hey, if a "Men's Forum" can segregate all the same old same old penis, erection, and shaving threads I say go for it.

Quoted for truth, can I get a witness, Amen.

[Boreas]

Thanks Nacktman.

I really do not think caveman is the appropriate descriptor. Cavemen most likely recognized women as fellow humans and did not advocate such hateful actions towards women.

[John P]

When equality is achieved, there will be a men's section here and nobody will ever post anything to it.

[BinCo]

No JohnP.

When equality is achieved there will be no need to have a womens forum where cavemen can write disparaging things about women and comments that drive them away.

Although as long as there are guys like bobx out ther making sons and spouting anti-women hatred we will have to deal with it. That's why they say "You've come a long way , Baby".

I think we still have a long way to go and am not encouraged to see true equality in my lifetime. With the RRR and Taliban and many others out there telling women what they can and can't do we are a long way off. As long as some jerk thinks his wife, daughter, girlfriend, etc is a possesion of his to be done as he sees fit we are never going to have equality.

When my wife was a kid she wanted to be an astronaut, she checked into it and was too short. She wanted to be a fireman, but could not heave a 200 pound man on her 100 pound body. She learned that if a man could not meet the requirements they could not do the job either. THIS is progress, this is equality. The last thing I want if I'm in a fire is a 100 pound person trying to carry my 170 pounds down the stairs.

What we really need is a shaved erect penis forum, right Mark http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/laugh.gif

[OZJames]

Is this the kind of post for a MEN's forum . We can post without fear of retribution , if so I'm all for it but otherwise I don't see any point. I think the only need for a men's forum is one where no one else but MEN can view and comment on it.


Nine words women use...

1.) Fine: This is the word women use to end an argument when they are
right and you need to shut up.


2.) Five Minutes: If she is getting dressed, this means a half an hour. Five minutes is only five minutes if you have just been given five more minutes to watch the game before helping around the house.

3.) Nothing: This is the calm before the storm. This means something, and you should be on your toes. Arguments that begin with nothing usually
end in fine.

4.) Go Ahead: This is a dare, not permission. Don't Do It!

5.) Loud Sigh: This is actually a word, but is a non-verbal statement often misunderstood by men. A loud sigh means she thinks you are an idiot and wonders why she is wasting her time standing here and arguing with you about nothing. (Refer back to #3 for the meaning of nothing.)

6.) That's Okay: This is one of the most dangerous statements a women can make to a man. That's okay means she wants to think long and hard before deciding how and when you will pay for your mistake.

7.) Thanks: A woman is thanking you, do not question, or Faint. Just
say you're welcome.

8.) Whatever: Is a women's way of saying F@!K YOU!

9.) Don't worry about it, I got it: Another dangerous statement, meaning this is something that a woman has told a man to do several times, but is now doing it herself. This will later result in a man asking 'What's wrong?' For the woman's response refer to #3.

Send this to the men you know, to warn them about arguments they can avoid if they remember the terminology.

Send this to all the women you know to give them a good laugh, cause they know it's true.

http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/laugh.gif <span class="ev_code_RED">JAMES</span> http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/beam.gif

[Boreas]

I think the only need for a men's forum is one where no one else but MEN can view and comment on it.

That could be true. I think one of the reasons the women's forum is underused is because it can be viewed by men. It is not "private space". That can intimidate some women.

[bikerboy]

I don't see why we all just can't get along. I personally don't care if there is a "MENS page and a WOMANS page". Who cares. I thought we were all here to make friends as naturists, nudists, or whatever you wish to call it. As for the caveman thing, some just won't progress forward now will they. So in the meantime, just enjoy life in its fullest.

[OZJames]

THIS IS A JOKE !!!!! http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/laugh.gif

After being married for 44 years, I took a careful look at my wife one day and said, "honey, 44 years ago we had a cheap apartment, a cheap car, slept on a sofa bed and watched a 10-inch black and white TV, but I got to sleep
every night with a hot 25-year-old gal. Now I have a $500,000 home, a $45,000 car, nice big bed and plasma screen TV, but I'm sleeping with a 65-year-old woman. It seems to me that you're not holding up your side of things."

My wife is a very reasonable woman. She told me to go out and find a hot 25-year-old gal, and she would make sure that I would once again be living in a cheap apartment, driving a cheap car, sleeping on a sofa bed and watching a 10-inch black and white TV.

Aren't older women great? They really know how to solve your mid-life crises.

http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/laugh.gif <span class="ev_code_RED">JAMES</span> http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/laugh.gif

[David77]

OZJames,
Very funny! http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/applause.gif

[Boreas]

http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/laugh.gif http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/applause.gif

Good one OZ

[bikerboy]

GOOD ONE OZ


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[nacktman]

Let me join the chorus!

Good one OZ!
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