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BareDebCNA
02-01-2004, 06:10 PM
Dont want to spoil it, be watching it as RIchard is up to his nude bathing!! YOU GO RICHARD!~
BareDebCNA
02-01-2004, 06:10 PM
Dont want to spoil it, be watching it as RIchard is up to his nude bathing!! YOU GO RICHARD!~
Motorcity Nude
02-02-2004, 04:01 AM
I think Richard is a fine model for nudism. The weekly exposure (intended) to the television audience is a good thing.
It will be interesting to see how his teammate's attitudes evolve throughout the game. I expect acceptance and getting to just being as normal as the skimpy bikini bottoms some of the ladies are wearing.
Nude in the North
02-02-2004, 05:41 AM
It would be nice if they would show a clip of Him having a conversation about nudity with one of the "embarrassed" contestants. Or in some way show his nudity in a supportive, positive way.
Showing the women turning their heads in embarrassment makes him look more like an exibitionist.
Steve
It's not Richard's fault if some of the others look embarrassed, just as it's not our fault if Stu would feel upset at some of the things we find normal.
Richard's a gutsy guy, leading by example.
I haven't watched "Surviver" for years, but I remember seeing Richard in the series where he won. I just couldn't understand why all the others clung to their wet, uncomfortable, unhealthy, clothing.
Gary Naturist
02-03-2004, 10:58 AM
I watched the first episode of Survivor's All-Stars. Richard Hatch, the winner of Series 1 and a declared nudist is one of the participants.
Richard was nude in two scenes shown. He went went in the water nude to swim/bathe. In the immunity challenge, which was a team event that took place both in the water and on shore, he was nude the whole time. His genitals and butt were pixellated out, of course.
There were two remarks shown: one in which one of the women said something mildly negative and the other where Jeff Probst announced "Richard Hatch nude!" during the challenge.
It appears that Richard will go nude whenever nudity is more appropriate than textility (new word just coined by me). This is great exposure (pun intended) for the cause of nudism.
Add Richard Hatch to the list of nudist heroes.
Gary
BareDebCNA
02-05-2004, 12:30 PM
Yep, I agree with you and it is back on again tonight at 7 centeral time. According to the previews that I saw, he will be continueing with his way of playing the Survivor games and I say: " GO RICHARD"!!!!! We can only hope that more people are curious enough to try it and get hooked to this way of life that is very good!
Have a great nude day/night and stay warm! /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif (we've got around 36 inches of snow on the ground total here) /infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif
Deb /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif
BikeRacer
02-06-2004, 10:19 AM
Deb, you've got 36 inches of snow in Omaha?... Holy-Molly!
I'm way behind here with Survivor...Is Richard the guy who won the first one and there was a national controversy because he was so devious winning his million? Please forgive me for being so lame here...Sheesh!
Nude in the North
02-06-2004, 11:39 AM
Looks like I got my wish.
They showed a clip of one of the contestants saying that he didn't really mind Richard being nude. And he said that the others were "getting used to it" too.
I hope by the end of the show there are a few other contestants skinnydipping and keeping their clothes dry. And maybe a few more conversations about how nudity isn't such a bad thing.
I'll be watching.
Steve
andy_ma
02-07-2004, 12:35 PM
Bravo to Richard! A true nudist hero that rocks!
S.M.A.
02-07-2004, 05:16 PM
You know, I had been wondering for ages what the people at ClothesFree thought of Richard Hatch (not the "Battlestar Galactica" guy). I was going to guess that the posters here were either indifferent or found him patronizing, but it's good to see somewhat overwhelming support for him. He's not female nor attractive, so he would be not be considered all that appealing to the bourgeois. Instead, he became reality TV's first star and a successful radio personality in his native Rhode Island.
To Richard Hatch, the patron saint of nudism.
Gary Naturist
02-07-2004, 10:33 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Nude in the North:
Looks like I got my wish.
They showed a clip of one of the contestants saying that he didn't really mind Richard being nude. And he said that the others were "getting used to it" too.
I hope by the end of the show there are a few other contestants skinnydipping and keeping their clothes dry. And maybe a few more conversations about how nudity isn't such a bad thing.
I'll be watching.
Steve <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>If Richard continues to be nude from time to time, I'm quite sure that the other participants will get used to it, and the millions of viewers as well. Just what we want: our nudity to be ignored.
Gary
RalphVa
02-08-2004, 03:22 AM
I sent a note to CBS saying that I didn't mind seeing a boob but did mind seeing that sexually explicit whole halftime show. I tuned it out soon as I saw and heard what it was.
Then I asked them to please unblur Richard.
Saw a pair of boobs on a PBS travel show yesterday afternoon. They showed a topless gal welcoming them to Micronesia.
Gary Naturist
02-12-2004, 11:38 PM
I watched Survivor again last night (episode #3). Richard was nude on land a couple of times, and no one seemed to take any notice (except the pixellator guy).
Gary
AussieBeachBoy
03-02-2004, 08:20 PM
Well, unfortunately Richard has gone and blown it.
They had a contest where contestants had to run back and forth across narrow balance beams between platforms. Contestants were competing from different teams. Richard ran his first leg in shorts but got knocked off the beam into the water.
He took his shorts off and ran the next leg naked. He ran across a beam and encountered a female contestant from the other team on a platform, and proceeded to rub his genitals against her. The host, who was refereeing, said something noncommittal like "We don't care about that sortof thing" and Richard stopped and moved on.
The female contestant later said it was "disgusting". Apparently in the coming week's episode she takes the host to task for not doing something about it.
Richard has now been voted off so we won't see him again. But his behaviour has tainted his portrayal of nudity. He generally said that he got naked because he enjoyed it and because it made sense. But in the contest he used nudity as an offensive weapon, and by rubbing himself up against another player has probably done absolutely nothing for the image of nudity in the popular media.
FLslimguy
03-05-2004, 04:17 AM
For all of the "good" you think Richard was doing on Survivor, he has turned nudism into not only a mockery but has now been "exposed" as a lewd nude.
That's real good. He probably set back our cause by five years. I wonder how many people thinking about trying social nudism have been turned OFF by those actions, thinking "Omigawd, I might set offended too..."
I never really saw any advantage to him being nude on the show. This reinforces my belief.
shãybare
03-05-2004, 05:27 AM
I thought Richard was doing OK with the nude bit by being nonchalant about it and the rest of the group came to accept it with no sexual connotations attached. I do not see what Richard did to Susan as acceptable behavior. I believe that at the time Richard rubbed himself against Susan he actually meant nothing sexual but just thought it to be funny. He did it without thinking and certainly made a bad choice.
I am not blaming Susan for getting upset. She has a good reason to be but I think this is something that should be resolved by Richard apologising to Susan for his inappropriate behavior toward her. I don't feel there was any malicious intent on Richards part.
I am not a Richard Hatch fan but I just don't feel this should be blown all out of proportion. Of course the media will run it for all it's worth.
yet again, reality tv has made nudists (never mind if richard is really a true nudist) look like freaks. There has never been a reality tv show yet that has shown nudism in a positive light.
This reality tv thing is, in my humble opinion, the biggest threat to naturism I have seen. I'm not sure what we can do about it, but maybe the bright people here can come up with some ideas?
Not to belabor the point, but the current state of naturist associations is piss poor. Where are the sanctions against resorts which harm the industry by participating in these shows?
Where are the spokespersons who can educate the public that crotch-rubbing "nudists" are not representative of our lifestyle?
Why doesn't anyone care that naturism is being ruined every night on every reality tv show.
The ****ing aanr should have a spokesperson on every morning show explaining that crotch-rubbing is NOT NOT NOT acceptable at naturist venues. Is that so hard?
Instead, our community remains silent, reality tv shows degrade us further, and just about everyone thinks nudists are sex-starved, crotch-rubbing, giggling tramps at desert shadows freaks.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by shaybare:
I thought Richard was doing OK with the nude bit by being nonchalant about it and the rest of the group came to accept it with no sexual connotations attached. I do not see what Richard did to Susan as acceptable behavior. I believe that at the time Richard rubbed himself against Susan he actually meant nothing sexual but just thought it to be funny. He did it without thinking and certainly made a bad choice.
I am not blaming Susan for getting upset. She has a good reason to be but I think this is something that should be resolved by Richard apologising to Susan for his inappropriate behavior toward her. I don't feel there was any malicious intent on Richards part.
I am not a Richard Hatch fan but I just don't feel this should be blown all out of proportion. Of course the media will run it for all it's worth. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I agree!
FLslimguy
03-05-2004, 01:07 PM
No one on Survivor "wanted" Richard to be nude. They just rolled their eyes and said "well, that's just Richard"...implying that it was different, strange or weird. Even in the middle of nowhere.
I never felt that his nudeness was a benefit to letting the world understand the joy and freedom of nudism. If he was really an honorable nudist and not such an egomaniac, he would have asked if his nudeness bothered anyone and might have been more selective.
He "wasn't thinking" during the lewdness toward Susan, and has since apologized and they have moved on ...and maybe Susan was a little over-reactive, but the point is that she was sexually attacked in a way that only SHE knows and has dealt with it. I don't feel Richard's nudity was helpful in any way.
I socialise a lot.
I am with dozens of people, 3 or 4 times a week, or more, at dances, social get-togethers, and the occasional business function.
Some of these people are somewhat conservative, probably nearly all of them know I'm a nudist, and no-one has even mentioned it to me.
Maybe that episode of Survivor hasn't been shown in WA yet. I neither know, nor care.
In the unlikely event that someone does mention it to me, I will simply say that Richard is an unusual guy, I don't think he meant any harm, but, on the spur of the moment, he did a very silly thing, for which he has since apologised. And he's not a nudist, anyway.
Nudists are, with justification, very sensitive about anything which may reflect poorly on our lifestyle, but I think most intelligent people will not see Richard as being typical of nudism, or any other particular lifestyle.
AussieBeachBoy
03-07-2004, 04:58 PM
The point is, he attempted to use his nudity as a weapon and as a point of intimidation. He confronted Sue, waited for her to get to his location, and though it was a small area and some close contact was inevitable he prolonged that by continuing to press his body against hers and face her even when she was trying to move off.
Richard did a pretty good job in the first series he was in - a lot of people hated his personality but his nudity was practiced in a responsible and acceptable way. However he has blown all his good work.
I saw the first episode, and, although I haven't, and won't, see the current one, I accept and agree with your comments, as they apply to the general perception of Richard.
However, at least in Australia, and in other countries which do not have a gross prejudice against nudism, in all its forms, I don't see it having any effect in regard to the way we come through to the general community.
I agree, however, that Richard was in a position to reinforce his earlier good work, but that's not what he would have considered himself there for, would he?
tailfinz
03-22-2004, 11:54 AM
I never viewed Richard as a nudist because of his tan lines; he stuck me as an opportunist. And his encounter with Susan confirmed my feelings. I'm sure that many viewers (who wouldn't realize what the tan lines meant) ended up thinking: "See those nudists are all perverts." And yes, I do realize that even real nudists sometimes have tan lines, but if you were going to show your *** on national TV, wouldn't you at least go to a tanning booth if it was too cool outdoors? Good riddance to Richard.
Elton
03-22-2004, 12:53 PM
Reality T.V. is manipulated by the producers. It should be called "Unreality" T.V.
missouriboy
03-22-2004, 11:51 PM
All TV is "unreality." My favorite control setting is "off."
Elton
03-23-2004, 07:22 PM
Okay.
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