The hairless look

[uskman]

Whether rightly or wrongly I love the hairless look, but (a) I am very hairy and (b) I find shaving quite difficult, particularly my scrotum. I wish I could find someone who would be willing to shave or wax me regularly. Do others have this problem?

[uskman]

Whether rightly or wrongly I love the hairless look, but (a) I am very hairy and (b) I find shaving quite difficult, particularly my scrotum. I wish I could find someone who would be willing to shave or wax me regularly. Do others have this problem?

[WacoTX]

No problem. I like my hair.

[andy_ma]

I'm good either way. Like everything, there are always body differences. I think I just have one that wasn't made for shaving. Too much maintenance and regardless of attemtping to toughen up the skin, I have ingrown issues. Gave up! I admire those that can though and glad they can enjoy it.

[nudenwv]

yes the bare look is fine. if you have a lot of hair on chest and belly,shave up to an inch or two above the penis. then do scrotum,and back cheek or just trim closely.. that would make it look more natural.i on the other hand lack body hair so it was easy for me. good luck.

[need2Bnude]

I like being smooth, but for winter I plan to let a little grow back. Shaving was difficult for me as well, but now that I have someone to wax me, Well; I would rather wax.<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by uskman:
Whether rightly or wrongly I love the hairless look, but (a) I am very hairy and (b) I find shaving quite difficult, particularly my scrotum. I wish I could find someone who would be willing to shave or wax me regularly. Do others have this problem? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

[Vin]

Count me as one who likes his hair... though I'll confess to the occasional trim and back wax. Shaving is definitely more trouble than it's worth to me, but to each his own. http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Vin

[barbararuth]

I have been a smoothie since I decided to bring nudism into my life six years ago. I prefer the look and feel and do not worry about the "maintenance"! My pubic hair grows in much darker than the hair on my head and I think that looks funny.

I feel sexier with no pubic hair.. I know, there is is no sex in nudism.. but it makes me feel better about myself.. and that helps my self esteem.

[David77]

I realize that it is a personal preference and not a moral/ethical issue, but I do not like the look of the pubic shaved on an adult, as it is an unnatural, child-like appearance of no pubic hair.

[shãybare]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by David77:
I realize that it is a personal preference and not a moral/ethical issue, but I do not like the look of the pubic shaved on an adult, as it is an unnatural, child-like appearance of no pubic hair. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

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David, you say 'it is a personal preference and not a moral/ethical issue,' but then you turn around and say 'it is an unnatural, child-like appearance'. You are insinuating it is not moral/ethical when you give the suggestion of it being attached to pedophilia.

It is one or the other.

[PascoDoug]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by shaybare:
David, you say 'it is a personal preference and not a moral/ethical issue,' but then you turn around and say 'it is an unnatural, child-like appearance'. You are insinuating it is not moral/ethical when you give the suggestion of it being attached to pedophilia.
It is one or the other. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

But he didn't bring pedophilia into the equation at all.. he merely stated his opinion that shaved pubes & body hair look childlike.

[David77]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PascoDoug:

But he didn't bring pedophilia into the equation at all.. he merely stated his opinion that shaved pubes look childlike. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Exactly! You understood me correctly, Doug, and thank you for your pointing out the correct meaning of my post.

[PascoDoug]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by David77:
Exactly! You understood me correctly, Doug, and thank you for your pointing out the correct meaning of my post. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You're very welcome. Just doing my job http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[carbuff]

Well said Barbararuth. Now I agree I feel sexier too if thats alright . I love the way it feels. I have been smooth all year and plan on continuing I like it so much. As a guy I feel it weird to say I feel sexy as a smoothie.

[MJ_KC]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by car/buff:
Well said Barbararuth. Now I agree I feel sexier too if thats alright . I love the way it feels. I have been smooth all year and plan on continuing I like it so much. As a guy I feel it weird to say I feel sexy as a smoothie. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I do it because it feels better to me. If it didn't, I would stop doing it because it does require a bit of extra effort almost every day,

[hairyhomer]

I am just too hairy everywhere to shave just my pubic area. I have been shaved before for surgery twice in the last 4 years and it looks very strange http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif with my hairy body and only two bald spots. http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif one by nature and the other by razor. Oh yea and when I had radiation it all fell out and when it grew back it has never been as thick as it was. So I guess I'll just always be HairyHomer! http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

HairyHomer http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

[stephen russell]

Me, I dont like it, for some for some OK its thier issue BUT I like the Hairy look IE Old Playboys & Penthouses etc. pre nudisim exp.
I can see maybe shaving my chest but not penis area & legs. 2 Much work.
God made US this way.
Its who we are.

[FireProf]

We've enjoyed the hairless look for several years now. There was one couple we vacationed with for the last 4 years that remained natural until this last year.

We have a group of friends, we meet each year for a vacation. We've never talked about being smooth but all of us except for this one couple is smooth. It's not that we planned being friends with just smoothies, it just happened that way with this group. Anyway, this one couple did ask a few questions of my wife and I. We answered directly and honestly and this last year we met them in the Caribbean and both of them were smooth. Another convert!

My wife enjoys being hairless and I also like her that way. She had asked me to do the same and we're both glad we did and will remain that way for as long as I can continue to shave us both. http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

You know, I don't get the comments about those who are smoothies or have hairless pubic areas somehow being equated to immaturity or childlike. I really thought we, as nudists, were past those stereotypes and comments.

No offense but...God gave us a brain to think, reason and make decisions. I'm not convinced the almighty is too concerned about whether you shave your pubic hair off, tattoo your body or pierce it either. I'm pretty sure it's just about treating each other with respect. http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[GMiller]

There are as many reasons for being hairy or hairless as there are people. To each his/her own. However I do notice a trend towards less body hair on men and less pubic hair on women. Hope the trend continues.

[Pieguy]

No shavy, no trimmy. I like my hair where it is.

[fre2bnude]

I'm not too hairy but even if I was I'd leave everything the way it was, I'm not keen on the hairless look, it's unnatural.

[Matt Cotter]

The amount of time/effort I spend on staying smooth doesn't even compare to the satisfaction I get out of being smooth.

[Baron Lake]

And I suppose getting a haircut and trimming a beard is (watch out Mr. Grammar Person) non-unnatural? http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Is the login name Fre2besmooth still available"?
b.l.

[GMiller]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Matt Cotter:
The amount of time/effort I spend on staying smooth doesn't even compare to the satisfaction I get out of being smooth. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Way to go Matt! Great picture!! This is one lady who loves the smooth look on men. Husband has been smooth for years. He shaves the easy to reach places and I help him with the hard to reach places. I therefore know how much time and effore it takes and I admire you for your dedication.
Ginger

[GMiller]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by fre2bnude:
I'm not too hairy but even if I was I'd leave everything the way it was, I'm not keen on the hairless look, it's unnatural. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Unnatural is in the eye of the beholder, Fre.
Ginger

[PascoDoug]

One could argue that everything mankind has done since the race became self aware has been unnatural.

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[traindriver40]

My personal choice for the last 4 years has been to be smooth, and yes can be a bit time consuming but has been said in an earlier post its well worth it in the end. I do appreciate not all want to do it which is their choice.

regards
John

[Kenv]

I like the smooth look and feel. But each to his/her own. It does seem, like so many other things, a matter of personal preference.

Question; Would women be as sexy and beautiful looking if they had body hair?

[NakedGary]

[Quote by "Kenv"]
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Question; Would women be as sexy and beautiful looking if they had body hair? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes they would.

[PascoDoug]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Kenv:
Question; Would women be as sexy and beautiful looking if they had body hair? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sure. I'm already more attracted to women who have unshaved pubes. I would not have a problem with unshaven legs and armpits either.

Though, I must say that I am glad women don't have abundant chest and facial hair. http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Croydon]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by fre2bnude:
I'm not too hairy but even if I was I'd leave everything the way it was, I'm not keen on the hairless look, it's unnatural. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Aren't you a self righteous one

[Kenv]

What if gals had hairy backs.

Sorry only kidding around.

[MJ_KC]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PascoDoug:
One could argue that everything mankind has done since the race became self aware has been unnatural.

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My take on this is that anything we do is natural for us as a species. We just have the ability to vastly expand what we can do compared to other animals.

[GMiller]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by traindriver40:
My personal choice for the last 4 years has been to be smooth, and yes can be a bit time consuming but has been said in an earlier post its well worth it in the end. I do appreciate not all want to do it which is their choice.

regards
John </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Great picture, John! I know how much time and effort it takes for you to be smooth because I am married to a smooth man.
Ginger

[barejohn]

I have been shaving for over 10 years and prefer the hairless look. It looks and feels totally nude.

[fre2bnude]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">quote:
Originally posted by fre2bnude:
I'm not too hairy but even if I was I'd leave everything the way it was, I'm not keen on the hairless look, it's unnatural.


Aren't you a self righteous one </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No I'm not being self righteous or critical, that's just my opinion and if people like to shave themselves that's fine by me, but the human body does grow hair and that's natural. I also have a beard but I don't criticise men who shave theirs. There are a lot of things added to and taken away from the natural human body, piercings, tattoos etc etc - and that's not natural either but each to their own. As I said I don't have a large amount of body hair but I like to keep it, don't know what I'd do if I had a lot of body hair like Hairy Homer, but I think I'd just leave it alone. I like to see some hair on people, women included, - it looks "NATURAL" and as naturists we like to be as nature intended, natural, without clothes. The only non natural things about my body, as seen in the avatar, is that I wear glasses, a wristwatch and a light tan, the rest I was either born with or has developed as I grew older. I come as seen and that's the way I prefer.

[traindriver40]

Ginger,

Thank you for those kind comments

John

[Nathan B]

I have been smooth for more than 10 years and I must say that the acceptance certainly has changed over the years. Time was when not many on a beach were smooth and now it's just the other way around.

I was at a resort this summer with a bunch of hard-core NASCAR fans watching a race and almost to a man everyone of them were smooth. Including a father with a 20 year old son in college who was also smooth!

I have always liked it and don't mind the extra time it takes to shave.

[cigarhog]

Hey Nathan,

I think I know what resort u were at with the hard core NASCAR fans in Georgia. I spend quite a bit of time there and had my first nudist experience there in 2004. I would have never even thought to go smooth until I saw how many men & woman were. I have been smooth ever since & love it.

Yea it does take a few minutes every few days, so to compensate, I stopped washing my cars.

Bruce

[GMiller]

My husband and I were at a social gathering with 4 other nudist couples last night. My husband and one other guy was a total smoothie. Of the other 3 guys, one was smooth from the waist down and the other 2 were not shaved at all. When the guys weren't around I brought this topic up amongst the women for discussion. Needless to say, myself and the other woman with the totally smooth guy liked the smooth look on men. The wife of the guy who was shaved below the waist said she wished he would go all the way, but whatever he did below the waist seemed to be some sort of compromise between what she wanted and what he was willing to do. Of the other 2 women who had the natural hairy husbands, one likes her men naturally hairy. The other likes the smooth look and has tried to get her husband to shave (or allow him to be shaved by her) but he is totally opposed to it. That means of the 5 women who discussed this issue last night, 4 out of 5 like the smooth look on men (80%) and one does not. While this may not be very scientific, it may be some indication of how women think when it comes to this relatively new trend amongst the men.
Ginger

[shãybare]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by fre2bnude:
I'm not too hairy but even if I was I'd leave everything the way it was, I'm not keen on the hairless look, it's unnatural. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

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Are you not being judgemental when you say that it is 'unnatural'? And apparrently you are not leaving everything the way it was because you do cut the hair on your head. Or do you consider that an exception.

[PascoDoug]

Shaving one's body hair (and yes, cutting one's hair, trimming ones beard, wearing glasses, smoking, etc. etc. etc.) is indeed "unnatural" (in the strictest sense).

But "unnatural" isn't necessarily a negative connotation or an insult, and just because one states that they prefer the "natural" look of body hair doesn't immediately make them self righteous or judgemental.

[NudeTopher]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by fre2bnude:
I'm not too hairy but even if I was I'd leave everything the way it was, I'm not keen on the hairless look, it's unnatural. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

For that matter, all grooming may be considered unnatural. Trimming one's nails, (female) armpit and leg shaving, and getting a haircut (head) are all unnatural if we follow your (il)logic.

[krcNY]

I love the hairless look on my husband. I think he looks sharp. Looks much cooler in the summer too.

I just trim myself, just to keep things neat. Just a time thing I guess for me.

[PascoDoug]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">For that matter, all grooming may be considered unnatural. Trimming one's nails, (female) armpit and leg shaving, and getting a haircut (head) are all unnatural if we follow your (il)logic. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

All you describe is indeed unnatural. But natural isn't always the most healthy, comfortable or hygienic state. http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[NudeTopher]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PascoDoug:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">For that matter, all grooming may be considered unnatural. Trimming one's nails, (female) armpit and leg shaving, and getting a haircut (head) are all unnatural if we follow your (il)logic. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

All you describe is indeed unnatural. But natural isn't always the most healthy, comfortable or hygienic state. http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Since it would violate TOS to post a picture of my errr ummm most hygenic areas - let's just say that crabs, body lice, or any such thing would have a difficult time finding a hair to gain foothold http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

[cigarhog]

This is an extremely subjective conversation. There are plenty of people(although not nudists) that think nudity especially with those of the opposite sex is "unnatural".

Its all a matter of personal preference. Shaving, not shaving, shaving certain parts, not shaving certain parts.

As nudists, we are supposed to accept everyone regardless of what look like like. Its one of the things I like best about the nudists.

Bruce
Bottom line is we are all different with different preferences.

[krcNY]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by cigarhog:
This is an extremely subjective conversation. There are plenty of people(although not nudists) that think nudity especially with those of the opposite sex is "unnatural".

Its all a matter of personal preference. Shaving, not shaving, shaving certain parts, not shaving certain parts.

As nudists, we are supposed to accept everyone regardless of what look like like. Its one of the things I like best about the nudists.

Bruce
Bottom line is we are all different with different preferences. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Great Post http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[fre2bnude]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Shaving one's body hair (and yes, cutting one's hair, trimming ones beard, wearing glasses, smoking, etc. etc. etc.) is indeed "unnatural" (in the strictest sense).

But "unnatural" isn't necessarily a negative connotation or an insult, and just because one states that they prefer the "natural" look of body hair doesn't immediately make them self righteous or judgemental. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thank you, that's what I was trying to say.

When I said "unnatural" I meant it to mean that it was not left "natural" and as such I never trim any body hair, but then it never grows long enough to need it as does my facial hair and the hair on my head. If my pubic hair grew long enough to hang round my knees then I'd trim that too. I notice that people that shave their bodies still have hair on their heads, why not shave that too?
It would seem that I'm in the minority for keeping body hair, but I won't start shaving, I still prefer to keep things as "natural as possible" - i.e. within reason. Having said all this I feel that I'm being put down for expressing MY opinion in what would seem to be a minority situation, it's nothing more than MY OPINION. And as a nudist I do accept others as they are, shaved, tattooed, whatever, what they do with their bodies is their business.

[shãybare]

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Thanks for clearing that up for me about your feelings of others shaving different areas of their body.

No one is coming down on you. We just have different opinions on what is natural (acceptable) or unnatural (unacceptable) about the human body.

I do think, however, that if I were to say what I do is natural and what you do is unnatural, you would take offense. I am not in the least being condesending.

We are all individuals and as long as what we do is not harmful to ourselves or others, we should be allowed to do it. Fashion comes and goes and it is always a matter of individual tastes.

I do consider telling someone they are unnatural because they follow a fashion you do not approve of as being judgemental.

[FMII]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by krcNY:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by cigarhog:
This is an extremely subjective conversation. There are plenty of people(although not nudists) that think nudity especially with those of the opposite sex is "unnatural".

Its all a matter of personal preference. Shaving, not shaving, shaving certain parts, not shaving certain parts.

As nudists, we are supposed to accept everyone regardless of what look like like. Its one of the things I like best about the nudists.

Bruce
Bottom line is we are all different with different preferences. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Great Post http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

[FMII]

I believe, as I have said before. Athleticism, and health awareness will encourage more men to become smoothies. It truly has it advantage if you exercise and swim.
All the best
Fred

[PascoDoug]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by shaybare:
No one is coming down on you. We just have different opinions on what is natural (acceptable) or unnatural (unacceptable) about the human body.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Again, stating that something is natural or unnatural has nothing to do with whether it is acceptable or unacceptable.

Something is either natural or it isn't. It's not a judgemental statement.

Cotton is natural, polyester is unnatural. Whether one is more desireable than the other is opinion.

[need2Bnude]

Its interesting how conversations in my office can be overheard. I have heard women talk about men and how they prefer men. Some love hair, others hate it, and some would like trim.
Overall the favorite is smooth to neatly trimmed.

[nakednudists]

I would like to be a smoothie, but it seems to be a pain in the... to do so. I do keep it neatly trimmed, but do want to be a smoothie. I just don't want to shave my *** and other things like that. I think it would hurt.

[Baron Lake]

Pasco, contemporary cotton may be a natural plant but it must still be processed and woven into fabric. So, in that sense, it is no more natural than petroleum based compounds (also from natural, if somewhat older, plants).
b.l.
(actually needed a bit of fabric this chilly morning...arg.)

[Baron Lake]

Ya know, on second thought, I wonder just how "natural" commercial cotton plants really are. Considering the extensive genetic modification....
b.l.

[PascoDoug]

Gee, somehow I knew some nitpicker would pick on the cotton metaphor..

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[tinner666]

My wife is a smoothie, and I would be, except:; I just don't have the time, or won't make the time for 'maintainence work'. If I could shave it all once, and be done with it, I'd be a smoothie. http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
And I accept everybody in whatever 'state' they are in. Frank http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Bigdan]

smoothy all the way,but sometimes with really short hairs,but males and females look better smooth

I agree, Bigdan, but shaving is way too much work.

[naturistcoloradocpl]

I shave during my evening shower, so used to it now its no bother at all.

[fre2bnude]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I do think, however, that if I were to say what I do is natural and what you do is unnatural, you would take offense. I am not in the least being condesending.

We are all individuals and as long as what we do is not harmful to ourselves or others, we should be allowed to do it. Fashion comes and goes and it is always a matter of individual tastes.

I do consider telling someone they are unnatural because they follow a fashion you do not approve of as being judgemental. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm sorry that I used the word "unnatural" it was a bad choice, it smacks of being a bit strange or even weird - and that's NOT what I meant, I don't even disapprove of shaving any part of the body, or tattoos, or piercing or anything like that. It's just something I wouldn't like to do to my body and would prefer to leave things more natural, if body hair grows, leave it, it looks OK to me.

[jandatxnude]

My wife and I have been smooth for about 8 or 9 years. We love the look and feel. I shave every morning in the shower. We use a product called Nad's on her pubes, and she shaves the lower area around the lips. I started using Nad's on my stomach. It's like waxing, but it's not hot. There is a bit of pain involved, but it gets less and less each time. I stay smooth for over a week, and the hair comes in much thinner when it returns.

Barefoot-n-Nude in Texas!

[UpstateNYBill]

If I went for the hairless look, it would take me three days to achieve it (and I can't imagine the itching).

I figured if the creator designed me the way I am, I will keep it.

But to each their own and whatever makes them comfortable.

[GMiller]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by krcNY:
I love the hairless look on my husband. I think he looks sharp. Looks much cooler in the summer too.

I just trim myself, just to keep things neat. Just a time thing I guess for me. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I totally agree. Also, why allow anything to cover the body's largest sensory organ (the skin) with another layer of covering (hair). Makes no sensory to me!
Now, I understand what a chore it is for you hairy guys. You just need to find someone to assist you. It can be fun, and very sensual too.
Ginger

[Unwired]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by GMiller:

Now, I understand what a chore it is for you hairy guys. You just need to find someone to assist you. It can be fun, and very sensual too.
Ginger </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Or, we could just stay the way we are, and be comfortable with ourselves regardless of what anyone else thinks.

[NudeAl]

I'm more of a trim around the edges guy. I like having hair and yes I did shave once. One thing I do that I haven't seen mentioned before is that I do use a product called Sun In on my pubes. I am light skinned and my hair, on my head, does get almost blond in the summer months so I figured might as well make it match, and decided to use a lightening product, down there. I like the result. I was just wondering if anyone else has tried this? So has anyone else done this any blondes out there?

[Jason Lee]

I wonder if Bianca (Diary of a Teenage Nudist) has The Hairless Look.

[sawdust]

Nude Al you bring up an interesting point and one I have wondered about myself. At clubs and resorts I have seen women with a full head of blond hair and yet their pubic hair will be some other color. Just seems odd to say the least! If they are to be nudist and go through all the trouble of coloring the hair on their head why not take the time to do their pubic hair as well? Do that or shave their pubic hair off to keep up their blond elusion.
Just a good question that needs an answer. Sawdust

[krcNY]

I pay good money to color the hair on my head, I do not think my salon with dye my pubics.

I just trim so it looks neat. When there is not so much hair it does not look as dark.

[Naturist Mark]

Even with natural blondes pubic hair is usually much darker - so when a vary fair haired nudist matches both on top and below - they are probably dying it.

-Mark

[naturalmanwa]

I am not shaved, but I think it is a personal choice. I prefer the "natural" unshaved look in members of both sexes, just as we were created!

[richinoregon]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by naturalmanwa:
I am not shaved, but I think it is a personal choice. I prefer the "natural" unshaved look in members of both sexes, just as we were created! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
In that case you also prefer men to be bearded, because that is the way we were created! http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[BEE-1]

Smooooooooth....... no other way! http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by richinoregon:
In that case you also prefer men to be bearded, because that is the way we were created! http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Are you saying Adam had a beard? How do you know that? I do know we aren't born with a beard. Anyway, I like beards as long as they're kept neatly trimmed. I shaved my head once and didn't look as bad as I thought I would, but I prefer some hair on my head. However, if I could shave the rest of my body without too much bother I would. As it is I just shave the pubic area because I like it that way.

[Trailscout]

I'm with you Jon-Marc, for a lot of guys shaving is way too much trouble, and for hairy guys would be necessary at least every two or three days to avoid itchy stubble. Those of us with head to toe body hair would need a long time with each session. Back hair is impossible to remove on one's own. I have more hair on my back than most men have on their chest. I priced a back wax job and they wanted sixty bucks. If I had a back wax three times a week, 52 weeks a year, that comes to: $9360.00 a year for the back alone, not including state and local taxes.

And for all this hair, my skin is in full contact with the outside world, just slightly protected against grass and shrubs as I roam the woods in my natural state.

I have met plenty of females who appreciate my hairy appearance, so I have have no incentive to follow the shaving fad.

[Nudony]

Smoothness is really not a big deal anymore. It used to be a controversial topic; but it is now a cultural trend and is acceptable pretty much anywhere.

In my case, it is simply too much work; I'm with Trailscout. Being naturally hairy, if I shave my pubic region, I also have to shave my entire lower torso so that it looks even. A friend of mine subscribed to the "no-hair" look; she shaved her entire body every single morning. 45 minutes in the shower. She'd have to get up every morning earlier just so she'd have time to shave. Pheeewwwww! I also wonder what her water bill looked like. LOL!!

[richinoregon]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jon-Marc:

Are you saying Adam had a beard? How do you know that? I do know we aren't born with a beard. Anyway, I like beards as long as they're kept neatly trimmed. I shaved my head once and didn't look as bad as I thought I would, but I prefer some hair on my head. However, if I could shave the rest of my body without too much bother I would. As it is I just shave the pubic area because I like it that way. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ask any orthodox Jew (especially a rabbi) and he would say "of course Adam had a beard-he was a Jew!!" http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif (no Jew bashing intended-I like Jews)

I'd do the same, but as you said I think it would take too much time, so just the stomach and pubic region.

[richinoregon]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Trailscout:
I'm with you Jon-Marc, for a lot of guys shaving is way too much trouble, and for hairy guys would be necessary at least every two or three days to avoid itchy stubble. Those of us with head to toe body hair would need a long time with each session. Back hair is impossible to remove on one's own. I have more hair on my back than most men have on their chest. I priced a back wax job and they wanted sixty bucks. If I had a back wax three times a week, 52 weeks a year, that comes to: $9360.00 a year for the back alone, not including state and local taxes.

And for all this hair, my skin is in full contact with the outside world, just slightly protected against grass and shrubs as I roam the woods in my natural state.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I hope you don't have as much as the guy I occasionally see riding his bike in N.E. PDX. His back is so hary that without a shirt on, he looks like he is wearing a heavy vest.

[GhostFreeHiker]

Too lazy to shave but trim from my head to my pubes every two weeks.

[nakedjohn]

I have been smooth for a couple of years now. After the summer, I said to myself, no more shaving, will let it grow back.
And guess what, I cannot get use to it anymore.
So it is shaving again and I do not mind!!

[KetchumMaine]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Trailscout:
I'm with you Jon-Marc, for a lot of guys shaving is way too much trouble, and for hairy guys would be necessary at least every two or three days to avoid itchy stubble. Those of us with head to toe body hair would need a long time with each session. Back hair is impossible to remove on one's own. I have more hair on my back than most men have on their chest. I priced a back wax job and they wanted sixty bucks. If I had a back wax three times a week, 52 weeks a year, that comes to: $9360.00 a year for the back alone, not including state and local taxes.

And for all this hair, my skin is in full contact with the outside world, just slightly protected against grass and shrubs as I roam the woods in my natural state.

I have met plenty of females who appreciate my hairy appearance, so I have have no incentive to follow the shaving fad. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

A roll of duct tape costs about a dollar. It has the same affect. http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_redface.gif

[Croydon]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Trailscout:
I priced a back wax job and they wanted sixty bucks. If I had a back wax three times a week, 52 weeks a year, that comes to: $9360.00 a year for the back alone, not including state and local taxes.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Boy you do have this thing of just saying whatever pops out of your head, does not matter if it true or not.

On average, a back wax is about $30. Waxing is an effective way of temporarily removing hair. A wax last b/w 5-6 weeks, NOT three times a week. To make it simple, once a month. Waxing and shaving are two different things. Shaving simply removes hair on the surface while waxing pulls the hair.

How about we recalulate: 1 back wax a month is $30, there are 12 months in a year..12 x 30 = 360.

I am a waxer. I get my chest and stomach wax and an occasional brazilian...my normal wax cost is about 40/mo.

[Trailscout]

No doubt the price of waxing varies from one shop to another. I was quoted $60.00 for the back alone.

As of yet, no one has billed me for leaving my back hair intact, so I gladly pocket the savings.

As to the broader topic of the hairless look, I contend that people look quite alright with pubic and axillary hair. If removal of the hair facilitates sexual congress that's another matter. From a purely esthetic standpoint, I see no advantage.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KetchumMaine:

A roll of duct tape costs about a dollar. It has the same affect. http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_redface.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

OUCH!! http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

[Norbert]

I prefer smooth on myself and on my fiancee. It feels so much nicer to me.

[mikeandjenny]

I prefer the hairless look as it feels so much better. Left to grow naturally, it is so thick that I don't feel naked. Shaving it off gives me a feeling of being completely naked - to ennjoy the breeze, etc. Shaving can take a little while (as you have to be careful) but I find it worthwhile. It is, of course, a matter of choice and I have found at the many visits to various venues I have been to it's about 50-50 for those who do and those that don't. My wife Jenny is lucky as she has very little, and very fair pubic hair - so although she looks like she's shaved, she doesn't have to worry about it....

[sunaddicted]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by richinoregon:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jon-Marc:

Are you saying Adam had a beard? How do you know that? I do know we aren't born with a beard. Anyway, I like beards as long as they're kept neatly trimmed. I shaved my head once and didn't look as bad as I thought I would, but I prefer some hair on my head. However, if I could shave the rest of my body without too much bother I would. As it is I just shave the pubic area because I like it that way. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ask any orthodox Jew (especially a rabbi) and he would say "of course Adam had a beard-he was a Jew!!" http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif (no Jew bashing intended-I like Jews)

I'd do the same, but as you said I think it would take too much time, so just the stomach and pubic region. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

This is way off topic but Adam wasn't a Jew. Abraham was the first Jew. As far as hair is concerned, I think it looks juvenile for adults to have no hair. I also think, on males, the depression above the genitals, which is hidden by pubic hair, looks weird.

[stcloud50]

I like the hairless look and feel. Iget a Brazilian every 5 weeks and it costs $70. Appears some of you are paying less.
If you like being hairless you should try the Brazilian at least one time.

[Old Hippie]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Kenv:
I like the smooth look and feel. But each to his/her own. It does seem, like so many other things, a matter of personal preference.

Question; Would women be as sexy and beautiful looking if they had body hair? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Somewhere in my wasted youth, I read a story by Poul Anderson which featured a world populated by people with animal characteristics. I thought the description of C'Mell, the cat-woman, was about as sensuous a passage as I had read outside of a girly mag. Sleek, soft fur silken to the touch, covering all her body so she needed no other protection from the elements....all the appeal of naturism and a warm coat besides. I recall wondering how snuggling with such a creature must feel, and the idea still seems attractive.
In short, I think a woman would be just as attractive covered in hair (or fur) as she is in unadorned skin - a lot will still depend on her wit and her smile, either way.

[usmc1]

It really is a matter of simple preference and need not be laden with all these heavy meanings and interpretations. After all, some people like a lot of pepper on their eggs and some want none, and some don't even like the eggs at all.

You don't want to be smooth, don't. You wanna be? go for it. Each has its own advantages and disadvantages--there are real things in the world to agonize over, now aren't there?

[bendigonudey]

Here's a link to an article from the New York Times in September about the hot fashion trend of going smooth:

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/01/fashion/thursdaystyle...ner=rssyahoo&emc=rss (http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/01/fashion/thursdaystyles/01skin.html?ex=1283227200&amp;en=b7a6bbfcb9cf7e63&amp;ei=5 089&amp;partner=rssyahoo&amp;emc=rss)

[FireProf]

I appreciate you posting the link to the NY times story.

Interesting and expected from what we've seen at beaches, clubs and resorts. A tiny bit bothered by some of the remarks regarding health reasons, the uncomfortable feelings some dermatologists have doing certain areas, and the sex issues, but all in all, I thought the article was good and regardless of this trend or what some may say, I do think that lazer hair removal of our pubic hair is in our future. http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[RainyDay]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by sunaddicted:
As far as hair is concerned, I think it looks juvenile for adults to have no hair. I also think, on males, the depression above the genitals, which is hidden by pubic hair, looks weird. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I agree.

[usmc1]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RainyDay:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by sunaddicted:
As far as hair is concerned, I think it looks juvenile for adults to have no hair. I also think, on males, the depression above the genitals, which is hidden by pubic hair, looks weird. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I agree. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Fine, that's your opinions. Welcome to it and you should coninue to act on them by not removing your pubic hair. Those of us with a different set of opinions will continue to do as we do without a thought as to whether or not it pleases either of you.

I am curious what is that depression above the genitals on males that is kept hidden by pubic hair?

I ain't got one of them--so I guess I ain't looking all that weird, huh?

But, I want to know how come some people got depressions and other's don't, particulalry since I aint never seen none. Should I be depressed cuz I ain't got me one of them there depression doo-hickeys?

Weird looking depressions above the male genitals kept hidden by pubic hair--now, who says you can't come here and learn new stuff.

You don't suppose "in the eye of the beholders" have any sort of application here do you?

[Caipora]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Somewhere in my wasted youth, I read a story by Poul Anderson which featured a world populated by people with animal characteristics. I thought the description of C'Mell, the cat-woman, </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You're thinking of Cordwainer Smith (Paul Linebarger). C'Mell appears in Norstrilia, The Ballad of Lost C'Mell, and some other stories, if I recall. The underpeople appear in much of his fiction.

Linebarger wrote the standard textbook on psychological warfare. There's a tale about him from the introduction to "The Best of Corwainer Smith":
"While in Korea, Linebarger masterminded the surrender of thousands of Chinese troops who considered it shameful to give up their arms. He drafted leaflets explaining how the soldiers could surrender by shouting the Chinese words for 'love,' 'duty,' 'humanity,' and 'virtue'--words that happened, when pronounced in that order, to sound like 'I surrender' in English. He considered this act to be the single most worthwhile thing he had done in his life."

- Caipora

Isn't it interesting how many people have this "I am right and you're wrong" attitude? Just because some people do things one way and others differently, that doesn't mean one is right and the other wrong.

Most things in life are simply a matter of choice. There is NO right or wrong in them. There are right and wrong choices in some things but certainly NOT whether you shave or not.

There's nothing wrong with having and voicing an opinion, but the problem I have is with people who say, "You're wrong" without absolutely PROOF that they are right.

[Ren]

You know Jon-Marc, I just read all this for the first time, and I couldn't agree more. It's funny how a matter of preference for oneself becomes so contentious, especially when there is no right or wrong, such as in this case.

I have personally just come to accept my chest hair, because I felt (for me) it was time to grow up. But it's also winter and I usually trim down in the warmer months. I have friends who just trim down under and others who find the idea of trimming anything to be crazy-talk. I once shaved my whole body just to do it. It felt good; it felt weird. And then I was itchy as it all grew back. But I'm neither here nor there on the whole thing.

To each his own.

[Trailscout]

Jon-Marc, I will not object if those around me insist on shaving themselves. But if someone comes at me with a razor, that's when shaving becomes wrong! http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Old Hippie]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Trailscout:
Jon-Marc, I will not object if those around me insist on shaving themselves. But if someone comes at me with a razor, that's when shaving becomes wrong! http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Another case of "Your freedom ends at my nose!"

[FireProf]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Trailscout:
Jon-Marc, I will not object if those around me insist on shaving themselves. But if someone comes at me with a razor, that's when shaving becomes wrong! http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Do you honestly believe someone is going to come at you with a razor and threaten you with shaving your pubic hair!? http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

I surely hope because of the smiling face at the end of your statement, you're attempting to be humorous. http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[Trailscout]

Fire,
I may be paranoid, but I ain't crazy. Can't you see that from my smile? http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[RainyDay]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by usmc1:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RainyDay:
I agree. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Fine, that's your opinions. Welcome to it and you should coninue to act on them by not removing your pubic hair. Those of us with a different set of opinions will continue to do as we do without a thought as to whether or not it pleases either of you.

</div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Jeez, why does this have to be a point of contention? Can't I agree without it getting philosophical?
And when are you going to answer my PM about your inflammatory remarks in other threads?

[usmc1]

You think calling people juvenile and weird is not contentious? That is what you agreed with.

But, I repeat, that is your opinion--fine and welcome to it. Those of us who prefer smoothness will continue to do so regardless your opinion. We owe you no apologies or explanations.

I like completely hairless except perhaps for the face and head, but I don't like beards and mustaches on women! http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif My grandmother had a mustache.

[BrianP]

First thing I want to say is hi to everyone. Now on the shaving debate, I feel there is nothing wrong with it. To each there own. If you want to save and like it then do it. If you dont like to shave then dont, but do not judge others who do. Nobody is hurting anyone shaving them selves. I keep my trimed and some times I will even shave it all off. That does not make me a bad person or anything like that. So like I said before to each there own.

BrianP

[usmc1]

Yep, this issue got decided by the supremes a few years ago when one said, in effect, "the freedom to speak does not extend to yelling FIRE! in a crowded theater when no fire exists".

Just one other quick point about the subtext of Christians as oppressed victems denied their right to speak here and elsewhere.

It's probably just me, but there seems to be an element in so-called "Christianity" that wants to be victimized and martyred. Again, probably just me, but they seem as though they would be gleeful to be tossed to the lions in the coliseum so that they could be real martyrs. I regret, that for their own happiness, that in some way they cannot be obliged--speaking metaphorically and I guess, just for me.

Now, excuse me, I need to make an appointment to get waxed.

[naturalmike]

http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gifNot Quoting Christianity BUT from the writings of the late and very great Pope John Paul, Naturism does NOT violate Christianity and as far as I am concerned that's good enough for me!

So I have no hesitation shedding my clothes!
Mike from Kent UK

[FireProf]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MJ_KC:
A good rule of thumb is to wait awhile and then decide if you want to really make a not so nice comment. You may write something that you regret saying because a message struck you wrong. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Exactly!!.........make sure the brains in gear before engaging the mouth or in this case the typing fingers. http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[uskman]

Given that, to the naturist, no part of the human body is "private" (I dem that term to mean not simply "not to be exposed" but also "not to be touched by anyone else") how do male members feel about exposing their best bits to females for the extremely intimate treatment of waxing - that is, if they want to be as smooth as possible?

[usmc1]

I don't care about the sex of who does it as long as the person doing it knows what they're doing. It can be a trained chimp for all I care--as long as it's done right.

That's why I choose spas with licensed, established estheticians that have good references. But, male or female, what's the difference?, I'm more interested in the outcome and results than the who is doing it.

Same as choosing a Doc, I don't care if they're male, female, androgynous, straight, gay,..as long as they know what they're doing when they're prodding, poking and fingering.

Best bits? I've always been told by the opposite sex that my big brown eyes and lying tongue are my "best bits". Whee--doggie!

[tinner666]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by uskman:
Members seem to have wandered off-topic. This was supposed to be a discussion about the merits (or otherwise) of hairlessness. Therefore, can I pose this question: Given that, to the naturist, no part of the human body is "private" (I dem that term to mean not simply "not to be exposed" but also "not to be touched by anyone else") how do male members feel about exposing their best bits to females for the extremely intimate treatment of waxing - that is, if they want to be as smooth as possible? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

My wife takes care of me all the time. Wouldn't be any different if another person was doing it. Though, I would prefer a female to a male as a matter of preference. http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[FireProf]

Since we're veering of topic a bit and onto waxing, I'm with Frank, I'd prefer a female perform the waxing but if I could find a salon around me that would just do it, it wouldn't matter. http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

As to calling or referring to our genitalia as private parts; it seems some are not quite comfortable using anatomical or slang names for these and are not sure what is acceptable and what is not. I would think that anatomical names for genitalia are acceptable and we should be using them as opposed to saying private parts, cuz......my parts haven't been private since we went public! http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[stcloud50]

The Spa I use has 6 female employees so when I get my Wax it is by a female. They are very professional and if anyone tried or said something inproper the person would be asked to leave. As for what to call private parts they call each of them by their correct name and explain what they will be doing. I personally like the direct approach .

[FireProf]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by stcloud50:
The Spa I use has 6 female employees so when I get my Wax it is by a female. They are very professional and if anyone tried or said something inproper the person would be asked to leave. As for what to call private parts they call each of them by their correct name and explain what they will be doing. I personally like the direct approach . </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Does Southwest fly into Kansas!! http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Unwired]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by FireProf:

Does Southwest fly into Kansas!! http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I don't think so...the only nearest Southwest destination is Kansas City, whose airport is located right next door in Platte County, Missouri. http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[cigarhog]

I was under the impression that Nudist/Naturists are all about acceptance of another, whether they be fat/skinny, tall/short, Black/White, Hairless/Hairy/trimmed etc. So what is this big debate. You are what you are & you like what you like.

Bruce

[Bob S.]

sunaddicted:"I think it looks juvenile for adults to have no hair."

Even on the face? How about on the chest? What is the difference between pubic hair and any other hair on the body? This is a question for anyone.

Also sunaddicted, I am with usmc, what is this "weird" depression above the penis. My skin does not depress inwards right above my penis.

Bob S.

[FireProf]

Here again, yet another post that concerns me.

sunaddicted said; "I think it's juvenile to have no (pubic) hair."

Two things concern me, 1) why is someone that is so against shaving one's pubic hair, posting on a thread about shaving pubic hair? Do you really think that.....2) this juvenile statement is going to change any of us shaver's minds!!? http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

[grl66]

There you go using logic in your arguments again Fireprof http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

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[FireProf]

I hate when I do that! http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Revolutionary]

This is sorta a strange issue. I am of mixed views on this. I guess there is no/very little difference between the hair under your arms and the hear in your pubic area. As styles have changed so have attitudes on (at least women) concerning shaving. I would guess that 100 years ago few women shaved there -- but the 20s ushered in fashions that tended to promote shaving. I heard that women also started shaving their legs in WW2 since there was such a shortage of nylons. And then in the 70s (when I was a young teen and started swimming at local spots that atracted many nude swimmers) many of the women you could see that many women had ample hair that extended all the way to their navels (at least the mid-abdominal hair line). Now with styles ushered in by Victoria's Secret and Britney (and porn) you see many women shaved to very little hair.

Maybe I can be wierd but in a way I prefer a more natural look -- sometimes I even find that when an attractive woman doesn't shave at all you get the feeling that she is someone who totally bucks conformity. I know the stereotype is that she's French, doesn't like men or an earth-mother but I have met a few women who don't fit that description in the least.

[cigarhog]

revolutionary makes some great points. I Don't really care if a woman is shaved everywhere or anywhere. The beauty of the person doesnt come from what she or he is wearing or isnt wearing(in this case hair, it is however who that person is. Before i was nudist i only shaved my face. Now I shave my genitals. In a year from now or tomorrow, I may stop shaving anyting. The bottom line is who cares if you are a good person.

I know its very cliched.

Bruce

[curmudgeon]

I could care less about the hairless or hairy _look_. For myself, I used to itch and chafe all the time. I have been shaving my pubic area for a couple years and find it much more comfortable.

[hazelton]

I always shave myself. (3) times,a day. More, if *neccessary*. Genital hair is quite un-comfortable for me. I had to start shaving, as soon as I got my baby-hair. I also go in for the wax job, every month.

[uskman]

This is amazing, Hazelton, that as a man you can find someone who will wax you. Did you have any problems finding someone, and having done so did she jib at doing your best bits?

[usmc1]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by uskman:
did she jib at doing your best bits? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I don't know about anyone else, but, I'm having deja vu all over again.

[HBJosh]

I agree with most everybody here. It's personal preference. I trim the patch and shave the balls. An electric razor works best for me.

[A. J.]

I strongly agree with you. It looks good for me. It feels cleaner. It is the ultimate form of nudity - Nuder Than Nude. I am convinct that you become familar with the right techniques. To remove hair from the scrotum, I stretch the skin. I even don't use a razorblade, I use an epilator. Exept at he base of the penis. There I use a pair of tweezers.
Ther are also a lot of webpages regarding to that problem. Happy google;-)

[Buck Naked Bear]

Personally, I have so much body hair, If I shaved, I'd have to start again as soon as I finished! Kinda like painting the Golden Gate Bridge, LOL
But if others want to shave, and it makes them feel better, absolutely.

[travros]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by hazelton:
I always shave myself. (3) times,a day. More, if *neccessary*. Genital hair is quite un-comfortable for me. I had to start shaving, as soon as I got my baby-hair. I also go in for the wax job, every month. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

yeah i could care less to it ichs when i shave my pubic hair and i suppose both methods of shaving will not remove hair at the root, which means hair will grow back more rapidly than a hair-removal method that does remove hair at the root which is bad.and its bad that you guys have no hair,it fights againt STDs,herpes, and syphilis

[Ann Wife and Mom]

I only shaved myself there once years ago. My kids thought I looked weird and ridiculous, even though they had seen many at resort. Hubby didn't make a bit deal. So I never did again. Now I have seen a few gray hairs there. Getting old! I may shave once they all turn gray.

[FireProf]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by travros:
and its bad that you guys have no hair,it fights againt STDs,herpes, and syphilis </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

What????? Are you serious!? http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/shocked.gif

[NorthVanNudist]

I find that once you are shaved, it just takes a minute or two a day to maintain. I favor the "half and half" look, (pubic hair above the genitals kept trimmed short, shaved scrotum), as I find it really comfortable (and a VERY common look for men at our local nude beach.) I have noticed more and more women at the beach shave or at least trim their pubic hair every year, with an increasing number going completely smooth. Like so many aspects of nudism, I think its just personal choice, with styles and preferences going in and out of fashion.

[baredownthere]

I always shave the bottom and sometimes shave it all. I think it looks neater and feels better. Took some time to get used to it. Hubby is atleast partially shaved. Works for us but it's up to you.

[DenitaLC]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by NorthVanNudist:
I find that once you are shaved, it just takes a minute or two a day to maintain. I favor the "half and half" look, (pubic hair above the genitals kept trimmed short, shaved scrotum), as I find it really comfortable (and a VERY common look for men at our local nude beach.) I have noticed more and more women at the beach shave or at least trim their pubic hair every year, with an increasing number going completely smooth. Like so many aspects of nudism, I think its just personal choice, with styles and preferences going in and out of fashion. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Are you refering to Wreck Beach? I'd LOVE to get up there one summer....I've heard wonderful things about it and the fun atmosphere and people. We're near Tacoma so it shouldn't be more than a 3-4 hour drive?

:-)
Dee

[MJ_KC]

Some people will enjoy being hairless and some people won't. A lot depends upon whether the shaved area itches or gets ingrown hairs.

I personally prefer to be shaved and I don't have any problems with it. It sure would be easier if I could get some of my hair permanently removed though.

[NorthVanNudist]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DenitaLC:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by NorthVanNudist:
I find that once you are shaved, it just takes a minute or two a day to maintain. I favor the "half and half" look, (pubic hair above the genitals kept trimmed short, shaved scrotum), as I find it really comfortable (and a VERY common look for men at our local nude beach.) I have noticed more and more women at the beach shave or at least trim their pubic hair every year, with an increasing number going completely smooth. Like so many aspects of nudism, I think its just personal choice, with styles and preferences going in and out of fashion. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Are you refering to Wreck Beach? I'd LOVE to get up there one summer....I've heard wonderful things about it and the fun atmosphere and people. We're near Tacoma so it shouldn't be more than a 3-4 hour drive?

:-)
Dee </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hi Dee,

Yes, I am referring to Wreck Beach, our official clothing optional shorefront. If you have never been there and would like directions or additional information about this wonderful beach, just let me know.

[DenitaLC]

Very cool! We go down to Collin's Beach on Sauvie Island, near Portland, OR but haven't traveled up to Vancouver yet to Wreck! It's on the "to do" list for sure!

:-)

[Tampanude]

We live in Florida. We prefer the comfort and coolness. Interesting how this type of thread consistently pops up. What's the big deal?

[DenitaLC]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Tampanude:
We live in Florida. We prefer the comfort and coolness. Interesting how this type of thread consistently pops up. What's the big deal? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
LOL......I think it's just human nature, people are curious!

:-D

How are ya Tampa? I enjoyed chatting with ya back when! Next time you are enjoying Caliente, think of us up here shivering! LOL!

Dee

[CanadaDan]

I shave, only by personal choice. I don't think others really care. I do not sit there and look at someone and try and 'profile' them based on what their personal choices are. It's like asking someone if they prefer Coke over Pepsi! It's justa choice. http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/happy.gif

[FireProf]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DenitaLC:
Very cool! We go down to Collin's Beach on Sauvie Island, near Portland, OR but haven't traveled up to Vancouver yet to Wreck! It's on the "to do" list for sure!

:-) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

We have very close friends that frequent Collins Beach quite often. Wouldn't it be fun if you knew them!? http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/beam.gif

[Longhairbear]

I trim armpits,eyebrows, beard,ears and nosehairs. I always wanted to have a hairy body growing up, and ended up that way, so I'll never shave it off. Just a personal choice also.

[Nude_Edward]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by car/buff:
Well said Barbararuth. Now I agree I feel sexier too if thats alright . I love the way it feels. I have been smooth all year and plan on continuing I like it so much. As a guy I feel it weird to say I feel sexy as a smoothie. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I have all my pubic hair at the moment but there are times when I shave. I like the feel of being a smoothie but I also like to feel my pubic hair. I suppose it compensates for the lack of it on my head!

[NKID_D57]

I think that everybody should try the smooth look at least once. If you don't like it, your hair will always grow back.

[foux003]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Longhairbear:
I trim armpits,eyebrows, beard,ears and nosehairs. I always wanted to have a hairy body growing up, and ended up that way, so I'll never shave it off. Just a personal choice also. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Good for you GOOD BUDDY. Let the GRASS GROW!!!

[Norbert]

My lady friend used NAIR hair remover on me and it woked awesome. We just did it last night. No sting, no irritation. I have been shaving for 12 years, but NAIR is my choice now.

[chadnude]

Im a hairy sort a guy but the smooth look is great, i like the look of it and feel of it...but each to their own.

[MrNaturist]

Or, we could just stay the way we are, and be comfortable with ourselves regardless of what anyone else thinks.
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I believe this this the smartest statement yet, I am smoothie in the public area and will always be. If it were to ever become unlawful it would make no difference to me.

I grew up with a heat rash so bad from rubbing hair and suffered nearly daily until I was shaved for a vasectomy. My God what a difference that made, and I swore I would never let it grow back. It takes less then 2 minutes to shave and who couldn't spent 2 minutes extra in a shower.

Now the good Lord gave us a brain, to use it, why not use it to be comfortable with who we are, not everyone will think a like or have the same opinion to what is comfortable. It would be one boring life if we were all alike, I like the look, and enjoy the company of a smooth lady. Both as a companion, and as a lover!

By the way, becoming a smooth nudist has been the absolute best mental medication I could ever find!

[JohnE44]

I like the smooth look for me I find it cooler in the summer and more comfortable

[tdstorm]

I am able to wax some of my body that I want it done to, and luckily have a girlfriend who can wax the rest I want. A nice trimmer is good for the legs, and arms.

[eagle59]

I just shaved totally yesterday for the first time. I have shaved my scrotum and shaft in the past and I do enjoy the smooth feeling, but I am a very hairy guy and I thought it would "look funny" you know, having a bare spot in the middle. But it really isn't that bad. I usually keep everything trimed real close, especially my pubic hair. (I am a cyclist and I hate it when the course pubic hair pokes through my bike shorts.) It is a little itchy so that is something new. but on the whole I like it. My wife is out of town for a week so I thought why not try it out and see what I think. I will be interested in getting her opinion on the matter. In the end I will probably go back to doing the close trim since she enjoys the hairy look. Only time will tell...

[timothyc]

i am what you might call a lazy smoothie shaving evertything once or twice a week. I don't have much body hair to begin with so there isn't a lot to shave each time but am too lazy to bother doing it more often to be a true smmothie. i wish there was a practical cheap, relatively painless way to avoid all that shaving yet be hairless.

[NKID_D57]

It takes me about 15 minutes every 2nd day to keep smooth.

[drgracer]

Personally, I like the feeling of a smooth shave, but the maintenance is more trouble than it's worth for me.

[nev]

With 90 or so days of triple digit hot weather....the "smooth & hairless look" serves as much of a comfort factor as a "look" for me...It's just a bit cooler (meaning temperature) this way :)