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Qikdraw
11-26-2006, 10:45 AM
Let your inner geek out. I know its in there. Don't be ashamed. http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/beam.gif

Rate countries around the world D&D style.

<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
<LI>Lawful Good (Crusader) - Loyal, hard-working members of the community, or truthful and honourable fighters against evil who hate to see bad go unpunished. They believe that having an ordered society is the best way to further the common good.Example: King Arthur.
<LI>Neutral Good (Benefactor) - They believe that a balance somewhere between total order and total chaos is best, and would generally concentrate on doing the morally right thing without worrying about whether it was good or bad for 'society'. Example: Mother Theresa.
<LI>Chaotic Good (Rebel) - Strong believers in freedom who like to make their own way and hate people who bully other people and try to push them around. They will often have a strong moral code which may not agree with the law. Example: Robin Hood.
<LI>Lawful Neutral (Judge) - They are disciplined and believe that adhering to and enforcing laws and traditions is the most important thing. They will not generally go out of their way to help others but will intervene to stop crime. Example: Asimovian robots.
<LI>True Neutral (Undecided or Balanced) - This can mean either of two things, depending on whether the character is actively or passively neutral. Active neutrals (the Balanced type) are very rare. They are philosophically committed to maintaining the Balance, and will tend to join every fight on the losing side. Passive neutrals (the Undecided type) are somewhere in the middle on both the Good-Evil and Law-Chaos axes. The passive neutral alignment can also apply to creatures with no moral sense such as animals. Example: Zen masters (Balanced), animals (Undecided).
<LI>Chaotic Neutral (Free Spirit) - A strange and very rare alignment. Chaotic neutral characters are very unpredictable individualists, being governed by whatever they feel like doing at the moment. Example: Calvin (from Calvin and Hobbes).
<LI>Lawful Evil (Dominator) - They respect the law, but have no concern for others, and tend to exploit the law to rise to power. Often they will engage in merciless, organised, planned killing. Example: Adolf Hitler.
<LI>Neutral Evil (Malefactor) - A purely selfish type, with no concern for other people or the law, but without as much lust for killing as Chaotic Evil characters. Example: Case (from Neuromancer by William Gibson).
<LI>Chaotic Evil (Destroyer) - The most dangerous characters of all, they will rove around killing and destroying for the sheer joy of it. Example: orcs.
[/list]

If thats too complicated here is a shorter description:

<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
<LI>Lawful Good - society is better off when people help each other.
<LI>Neutral Good - you need it.
<LI>Chaotic Good - I want to get back at the uncaring society that left you to die.
<LI>Lawful Neutral - the law obliges me to.
<LI>True Neutral - you'd do the same for me (for the Undecided true neutrals, by analogy with them killing in self-defence at the website above) or you are the underdog (for the Balanced true neutrals who join every fight on the losing side).
<LI>Chaotic Neutral - I feel like it.
<LI>Lawful Evil - you are vital to my conquest of the world.
<LI>Neutral Evil - there's a nice reward for it.
<LI>Chaotic Evil - I want to torture you more before you die.
[/list]

So how do you rate countries around the world? Try and pick more than ten (10), if you know of that many. http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/beam.gif

*edit* I should also add that this is a rating of a country, not its people. So if you think Canada is Chaotic Evil, its a alignment for its foriegn policy, not the people inside. So don't take it personal.

Qikdraw

Qikdraw
11-26-2006, 10:45 AM
Let your inner geek out. I know its in there. Don't be ashamed. http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/beam.gif

Rate countries around the world D&D style.

<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
<LI>Lawful Good (Crusader) - Loyal, hard-working members of the community, or truthful and honourable fighters against evil who hate to see bad go unpunished. They believe that having an ordered society is the best way to further the common good.Example: King Arthur.
<LI>Neutral Good (Benefactor) - They believe that a balance somewhere between total order and total chaos is best, and would generally concentrate on doing the morally right thing without worrying about whether it was good or bad for 'society'. Example: Mother Theresa.
<LI>Chaotic Good (Rebel) - Strong believers in freedom who like to make their own way and hate people who bully other people and try to push them around. They will often have a strong moral code which may not agree with the law. Example: Robin Hood.
<LI>Lawful Neutral (Judge) - They are disciplined and believe that adhering to and enforcing laws and traditions is the most important thing. They will not generally go out of their way to help others but will intervene to stop crime. Example: Asimovian robots.
<LI>True Neutral (Undecided or Balanced) - This can mean either of two things, depending on whether the character is actively or passively neutral. Active neutrals (the Balanced type) are very rare. They are philosophically committed to maintaining the Balance, and will tend to join every fight on the losing side. Passive neutrals (the Undecided type) are somewhere in the middle on both the Good-Evil and Law-Chaos axes. The passive neutral alignment can also apply to creatures with no moral sense such as animals. Example: Zen masters (Balanced), animals (Undecided).
<LI>Chaotic Neutral (Free Spirit) - A strange and very rare alignment. Chaotic neutral characters are very unpredictable individualists, being governed by whatever they feel like doing at the moment. Example: Calvin (from Calvin and Hobbes).
<LI>Lawful Evil (Dominator) - They respect the law, but have no concern for others, and tend to exploit the law to rise to power. Often they will engage in merciless, organised, planned killing. Example: Adolf Hitler.
<LI>Neutral Evil (Malefactor) - A purely selfish type, with no concern for other people or the law, but without as much lust for killing as Chaotic Evil characters. Example: Case (from Neuromancer by William Gibson).
<LI>Chaotic Evil (Destroyer) - The most dangerous characters of all, they will rove around killing and destroying for the sheer joy of it. Example: orcs.
[/list]

If thats too complicated here is a shorter description:

<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
<LI>Lawful Good - society is better off when people help each other.
<LI>Neutral Good - you need it.
<LI>Chaotic Good - I want to get back at the uncaring society that left you to die.
<LI>Lawful Neutral - the law obliges me to.
<LI>True Neutral - you'd do the same for me (for the Undecided true neutrals, by analogy with them killing in self-defence at the website above) or you are the underdog (for the Balanced true neutrals who join every fight on the losing side).
<LI>Chaotic Neutral - I feel like it.
<LI>Lawful Evil - you are vital to my conquest of the world.
<LI>Neutral Evil - there's a nice reward for it.
<LI>Chaotic Evil - I want to torture you more before you die.
[/list]

So how do you rate countries around the world? Try and pick more than ten (10), if you know of that many. http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/beam.gif

*edit* I should also add that this is a rating of a country, not its people. So if you think Canada is Chaotic Evil, its a alignment for its foriegn policy, not the people inside. So don't take it personal.

Qikdraw

LamontCranston
11-26-2006, 06:19 PM
I've never played or studied D & D but this list is interesting and I'll have a go...

First off, I don't believe there are Lawful Good or Chaotic Evil people, organizations, societies, or countries. Those are both pure ideals that can't quite be reached because of some impurity inward or outward.

King Arthur was betrayed and the Orcs defeated.

This is tough because you're asking to rate countries, but the examples are all individuals.

I rate the post-Civil War U.S. during the period of westward expansion as Lawful Evil.

I rate the U.S. and Great Britain today as Chaotic Good.

I rate the former USSR as Lawful Evil during the Cold War period.

I rate Russia today as Lawful Neutral.

China today is also Lawful Neutral.

I think I rate the European Union of today as Neutral Good (but I don't live there, so my knowledge is filtered).

I think, upon reading this list a few times, that Adolf Hitler belongs in the Neutral Evil category (consider his final solution, shooting his own retreating soldiers, his insane push on the eastern front, paranoia within his staff). If there can only be one being in Hell, Hitler might be it.

A better example of Chaotic Neutral might be the Columbian Drug Cartels.

I'll think of more later...

My philsophy on all this?
I think individuals aspire to be Crusaders and/or Benefactors, depending upon circumstance.

I think countries (or any assembly of unlike groups) aspire to be Judges.

And most important. I think individuals should have a Free Spirit day or an organization a Free Spirit member who matters, in order to filter impurities I mention at the top.