trailracer88
05-08-2004, 05:51 PM
I'm sorry for mentioning masturbation in my last post, it was late or early (like 3 in the morning) when i wrote that, my mind wasn't very clear. I do not confuse sex and nudity and i do not have any porn magz that i know of. Please forgive the blurb.
trailracer88
05-08-2004, 05:51 PM
I'm sorry for mentioning masturbation in my last post, it was late or early (like 3 in the morning) when i wrote that, my mind wasn't very clear. I do not confuse sex and nudity and i do not have any porn magz that i know of. Please forgive the blurb.
florida-david
05-08-2004, 08:03 PM
everyone was a bit harsh. i feel there is nothing wrong with masturbation, i do not see the big deal, but others here are worried of the nudist perception to the rest of the world if us nudists were discussing masturbation. the thought is that nudists must not be seen as perverts at all costs, and somehow normal bodily activities like masturbation, makes people perverts. i guess that 80% of the world's population are perverts since just about everyone masturbates. oh well....
Nudist Guy-222
05-25-2004, 09:03 PM
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Reply to Trailracer88 [ Nate ], from Nudist Guy-222 :
It?s a shame that the first two replies to your first post were pretty negative. I hope they don't discourage you from posting to the ClothesFree forum. This forum desperately needs many more younger members who are willing to post regularly. Even though this is a NUDIST forum, I feel you should have the right to ask questions and discuss masturbation as it relates to nudism. Like, "While practicing nudism, I usually end up masturbating more than normal. Or like, I masturbate to help control my erections, for the times I am nude in front of others. Do these things happen to other teen males who are new to nudism?"
Don't buy into any suggestions that you may be labeled a sexual pervert, simply because you masturbate. The actual truth is, you are a NORMAL 15 year old teen male. Even if you have some moral or religious concerns about masturbating too often, it is still hard for young males NOT to masturbate at all. For most males, masturbation is almost uncontrollable. I don't believe ANY male goes through his teen years without masturbating to some degree.
To make you realize how normal male masturbation really is, I wish all the guys who currently masturbate, or who have masturbated often in the past, would post back here, admitting the practice as being very enjoyable and somewhat addictive. I have heard it said that 98% of all males masturbate, and the other 2%, lie about it !
Becoming a nudist doesn't mean you have to give up being a normal teen male. Nudism is the non-sexual enjoyment of being nude. Enjoying nudism means enjoying the feelings of freedom you get from not having any clothes on, and not being ashamed for others to see your Entire male ( or female ) body, including your genitals.
But enjoying nudism does not mean that you will never ever get another erection, or you will never want to masturbate again. Even as a nudist, you still remain a sexual male. In the beginning as a new nudist, you will often find it hard handling your excitement when you are naked. But that is normal. You will be okay, as long as you don't handle your ?excitement? in front of others. The longer you stay nude, you should find your excitement starting to diminish, and it should not come up as often !
So, Trailracer88, welcome to this ClothesFree forum. I hope you stick around for a long time. And maybe you could spread the word, and get other teens to learn about this site, and to start posting here regularly with questions and experiences.
A few days before your first post, I replied to another new ClothesFree member, ccstt, ( a 16 year old male ). Although I addressed it to him, ccstt, in reply to his post, "WHAT TO DO?", I actually intended it for ALL new potential nudists. Read the copy below.
Ccstt has the exact opposite problem as you, Trailracer88. His parents actually WANT him to embrace the nudist lifestyle. Maybe you and he can contact each other, privately or here at ClothesFree, and start talking about things that interest you, like guys & girls & nudism, erections and even masturbation. Until the administrators of this site tell you that you are going over the line, you should not concern yourself with any negative posts you may receive here. None of the regular posters here OWN this site. You have just as much of a right to post here as anyone of them.
I hope you post back any progress you make in your new interest and enjoyment of nudism, and any concerns you have about masturbating.
The " Afraid To Ask " Home page is the medical health site, and it includes Message Board forums on masturbation, male genitalia, and female genitalia, as well as other forums.
http://www.afraidtoask.com/
Visit the " Afraid To Ask " Bulletin Boards Section at :
http://www.afraidtoask.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php
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Reply to ccstt, on "WHAT TO DO?" in The Fun of Nude Recreation,
from Nudist Guy-222 on Sunday May 02, 2004 :
You posted a note on this NUDIST forum asking WHAT TO DO about going to a nude beach with your dad and step-mom. ALL of your replies so far are positive and are urging you to just do it. That should not have come as any big surprise. So I will echo all the other replies, and suggest very strongly for you to just "Go for it"! Did you really expect that any of the nudist posters here would ever tell you NOT to go?
Maybe you don't realize it right now, but you are an extremely lucky young 16 year old. Your dad and step mom are open-minded and friendly towards the nudist lifestyle. You should be happy for the opportunity they are offering to you, and you should accept it gladly.
Many teen males would love to have parents like yours. Lots of teens can't even let their parents know that they enjoy being nude. They have to be secretive about sleeping in the nude. And they can't even walk between their bedroom and the bathroom without wrapping a towel around them, out of fear that a parent may see them naked.
In your case, your dad and step mom are not only allowing you to enjoy nudism, but are actually encouraging you to practice it. What teen male could ask for more? You should be jumping up and down, ( in the nude, of course ).
Here are some suggestions you might think about. If you don't do it now, start sleeping nude, and let your parents know you are doing it. This will allow your body to get used to being naked for about 1/3 of every day. Try wearing as little clothes as possible around the house, like just low rise or even bikini underwear. And better yet, try staying around the house completely nude, when you are home alone. My guess is that your parents would not object to you walking around naked in their presence, but you can tackle that obstacle at a later time.
Many nudists who discovered the freedom and enjoyment of nudism in their 20's, 30's, or 40's all testify that they wish they had experienced nudism at a much earlier age. And wished they had nudist friendly parents like you have. So if you don't take this opportunity that your dad and step mom are offering to you now, you will most definitely regret it when you are older.
From your post, it sounds like you are not against being nude in front of your dad and step mom. At age 11 - 12, it was not weird for you to be nude on the beach in front of your dad and step mom. That is a big PLUS for you. Your step mom knows that you are still the same person. The only difference is, now your genitals are bigger and you have pubic hair around them.
Your biggest concern is the universal male fear of having an erection on the nude beach, and in front of your step mom. Please, please don't let getting an erection stop you from enjoying the freedom of being completely nude at the beach. A male getting an erection from simply being nude, or seeing other nude people, is a normal and natural reaction to simple nudity. It is considered an innocent, non-sexual erection. And you should not in any way feel ashamed of any non-sexual erections. You should not flaunt it or draw attention to it, but on the other hand, as far as I am concerned, there is no need for you to hide it or cover it up. Just be comfortable with the fact that you have an innocent erection, caused from simple nudity.
The more you can accept your erection and be less bashful about it, the more accepting and comfortable the people around you will feel. If you act embarrassed, others ( like your dad and step mom ) will feel embarrassed for you. Especially if the beach is sparsely populated when your family goes, nobody will object to you sitting / standing on the beach, or walking to or from the ocean with your penis in the UP position. Just as long as you do NOT stand at the edge of the water, and pump your boner like crazy! That would be a sexual act you should do in private, and NOT the proper way to enjoy your beach nudity.
As for your step mom, since you have a good relationship with her, why don't you try just being honest with her and telling her that you want to go with her and your dad to the nude beach, but you are scared about getting an erection, so you want to know if she would be offended by seeing you that way. I have a very strong feeling that she will tell you that she will definitely NOT be offended by your erection, and if it is okay with you, then it is okay with her.
If this is her attitude toward nudity ( and I suspect it is ), you should try being nude ( especially with an erection ) in front of your step mom and dad, BEFORE you venture onto the nude beach with them. This will eliminate any surprises on 'nude beach day'. Maybe you should suggest an exercise for your family to get you all accustomed to seeing one another naked. For one week before ' nude beach day', your dad, your step mom, and you should agree NOT to wear ANY clothes in the house, at any time. And any erections either from you or your dad will NOT be hidden or covered up. After ' nude beach day', wearing clothes in the house should become optional. You and your dad should have no problem in letting each other see your erections, because you're a guy and he's a guy ( as well as your dad ). Seeing your erections does NOT mean you want to have sex with each other, and it is NOT being gay.
I can almost guarantee you that once you go to the nude beach, and you recall the total freedom you felt as a 12 year old, then you will want to go back again and again. You will forever question Society's insistence on beach attire, and you will never want to wear a swimsuit from now on. After you get a taste of being nude on the beach ( with or without erections), perhaps your dad will let you take a male friend or two along next time, ( after clearing it with their parents ).
Just remember there are definite differences between innocent, non-sexual erections, and sexual erections. Innocent, non-sexual erections are caused simply from being nude, or from seeing other people nude. They are NOT accompanied by sexual activity or thoughts and fantasies of sexual desire. They are spontaneous, automatic and involuntary. When you are naked in front of your dad and step mom for the first time in a long time, this is the type of innocent erections that you will get. Nudeinfl gives you 5 to 1 odds that you will NOT get an erection on the beach. Since you are only 16, I will give you 5 to 1 odds that you WILL get non-sexual erections when you first start practicing nudism. But you should consider them as natural and normal, and you should NOT feel ashamed for getting them, or for letting others seeing them.
Sexual erections, on the other hand, are those erections caused by sexual activity or thoughts and fantasies of sexual desire. These are the type of erections you have whenever you masturbate in bed at night ( or in the morning ). I am not saying that nobody ever gets any sexual erections. But just like everything else there is a proper time and place for them. Sexual erections are also a normal part of everyday life, and should be enjoyed in private, and NOT while engaging in nudism.
There is no observable difference between non-sexual erections and sexual erections. They both look the same, feel the same, and produce the same physical pleasure for a male. So the major difference between these two types of erections, is the primary cause ( mere nudity, or sexual activity ), and the Intentions and Behavior of the male who is attached to that erection. If your intent and behavior remain normal, then don't be ashamed to let your erection show, simply because you are nude.
I realize that this is a real long post, but I am not writing this only for you, ccstt. I am writing it in an effort to help all other male teens and twenty-somethings, who believe there is nothing morally wrong with the nude human body, and with enjoying nude recreation. But they will not attempt getting into nudism, only because of the fear of getting erections when nude and others seeing them. I wanted to emphasize the difference between non-sexual erections and sexual erections, which teens ( and many adults ) don't realize. Most males are afraid that ANY erection will label them as a sexual pervert or a homosexual. Neither one is true. Erections often happen to males who get naked in front of other people. It's simply a normal, physical male reaction.
Ccstt, I hope you post back with any other questions you have. I hope you decide to go with your dad and step mom to the nude beach. I am sure that you will love it, and you will be glad that you went. And when you do go, I hope you give us an update on how you enjoyed it and what happened to you.
Don't be ashamed of being a normal male, or of showing any of your male parts, regardless of the state they are in. Just get naked and stay that way for as long as possible. Sad to say, but you will not be young forever. So don't pass up this golden opportunity to enjoy nudism with your dad and step mom.
Posted by : Nudist Guy-222 to Ccstt on Sunday May 02, 2004
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Posted by : Nudist Guy-222 to Trailracer88 [ Nate ] on Tuesday May 25, 2004
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