nudists fear clothing?

Do any Nudisis/naturists fear wearing clothing/being seen wearing clothing. the way textile people fear being naked/being seen naked etc...???

[soundman]

No, but textiles fear nudity.

I don't fear either one.

[Boreas]

I don't fear clothing, especially when the temps drop to -30. It serves a useful purpose. I do though, prefer comfort over fashion, and also tend to stick to cottons since some other fabrics (ie wool) make me itchy. I also have to avoid certain laundry soap that makes me itch.

[nudeM]

I don't know why anyone would 'fear' wanting to be seen wearing clothing. On the other hand, due to personal experiences, I can see why those would 'fear' being seen nude.

I'm sorry, I really don't understand the reasoning of the question. We all 'have' to wear clothes at one time or another. Even the 'hard core' nudists have to wear clothing at times. http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/smoking.gif

[barenaked1]

Strange question.
I have no 'phobia' about clothes as I have no obsession with being naked. As long as I don't have to wear constrictive clothing when I choose to do so in the appropriate places, I will do so.
Although these forums may be designed for some debate, as I've stated before, i am opposed to those that come in here with their pre-conceived textile ideas when this is a definitive place for those that choose a lifestyle that is free of negative conotations and that they need to leave their judgemental behavior behind.
Bottom line.
If you don't like nudist, being nude or cannot comprenhend that there are likeminded people that enjoy this lifestyle in one fashion or another, you don't need to be here.

Originally posted by Segnet:
Do any Nudisis/naturists fear wearing clothing/being seen wearing clothing. the way textile people fear being naked/being seen naked etc...???

[Swimguy]

Originally posted by Segnet:
Do any Nudisis/naturists fear wearing clothing/being seen wearing clothing. the way textile people fear being naked/being seen naked etc...???

Like I said in another thread, I like clothes. I enjoy staying fashionable--within reason. I will not go broke on my wardrobe, but I like staying with the current fashion trends.

[Pete Knight]

Originally posted by soundman:
No, but textiles fear nudity.


That's a bit of a generalisation isn't it, I think you'll find that the vast majority of textiles prefer to wear clothes, but don't actually fear nudity, then of course we have Stu, who does fear nudity, but he's no ordinary textile.

I don't really understand the reasoning behind the question either, I don't fear clothes, but I do get a feeling rather like claustrophobia when I'm sat in an office on a hot summers day, I just can't wait to get my clothes off, is that the same?

Pete Knight

[emsdude]

I pfefer to be nude anytime I can , wait too the last second to get dress to go out.Have a great nude day.

[nakedjohn]

No I do not fear clothing, but if I can and weather permits, I love to be nude.

[shãybare]

http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/cool4.gif
I don't LIKE wearing clothes but not certainly afraid of them or being seen in them. When I have to wear them, I dress for comfort not fashion.

great replies everyone, this was an entirely hypothetical question by the way. i enjoy building hypothetical "what if" questions in my mind and seeing what conclusions result.

I have noticed that in many posts and nudity propaganda, a mental image is conjured up of a "roll reversal" (a good example is in the "bare pit" page on CFI's home page) this draws out a situation where everyone is nude, and suddenly someone sees "a clothed man" aaaagh!

a complete roll reversal of what we know as the "norm" of today. it was entertaining none the less to hear everyones thoughts about fearing clothing. I suspect it is not immposible for someone to have a "clothes phobia" after all we as a scociety have invented such terms a "homophob" to describe someone that is opposed to that lifestyle. it stands to reason that there could be texile-phobic's out there too. or perhaps one day it could be an issue if the people of the world where actually nude by nature (pun intended). and clothes wearing would be some kind of taboo. only to be practiced when necessary, and then you wouldn't want anyone too "see you in these clothes"

anyway, I have a very inventive mind, and like to explore new ideas, inventing situations, play them out in my head, discover what ideas result, and how that affects other things.

and for the record... I do not fear clothing, or being seen in them.
i enjoy being nude at much as possible.
I wear clothing as a necessity only, when required.
not because I fear being naked ( I dont)

there. now you can see the reason for the question. it was most enlightening.

[Stu2630]

Pete

I think you'll find that the vast majority of textiles prefer to wear clothes, but don't actually fear nudity, then of course we have Stu, who does fear nudity, but he's no ordinary textile.

There are a LOT of people who really don't want to be around nudity. Check out this site from Jersey.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/jersey/have_your_say/nude_beach.sh...ent=response#comment (http://www.bbc.co.uk/jersey/have_your_say/nude_beach.shtml?comment=response#comment)

Stu

[Zorro]

Why would a nudist fear clothing? I sure don't, but I do feel odd and out-of-place when I'm heading home from a resort, put my clothes back on and am surrounded by nude people. I want to tear my clothes off again and feel normal, but we kinda have to wear something when we venture back out into the textile world...

[Boreas]

Originally posted by Stu2630:
Pete

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I think you'll find that the vast majority of textiles prefer to wear clothes, but don't actually fear nudity, then of course we have Stu, who does fear nudity, but he's no ordinary textile.

There are a LOT of people who really don't want to be around nudity. Check out this site from Jersey.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/jersey/have_your_say/nude_beach.sh...ent=response#comment (http://www.bbc.co.uk/jersey/have_your_say/nude_beach.shtml?comment=response#comment)

Stu </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I am confused Stu. I read most of the comments in the link you provided and most seemed in favour of the nude beach and the opportunity to be nude in public if appropriate. Several even suggested that public areas be changed to clothing optional. (One poster even suggested that people be allowed to smoke pot nude in public. http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/wink3.gif)

[Stu2630]

Still_boreas

Sorry, I didn't make my point very clearly.http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/embarassed.gif Yes, of course on a nudism topic you can expect to get a lot of people contributing who are nudists themselves, and they will find this link through forums like this one and you can expect very many proponents will come from nations across the world. I was actually responding to the point Pete made when he singled me out as being unlike other textiles and...

I think you'll find that the vast majority of textiles prefer to wear clothes, but don't actually fear nudity

Clearly, the link I showed indicates that there is no shortage of people who contributed who have a strong antipathy towards nudity and it appears from their comments that most of those were locals. My point is, therefore, that outside of naturism and inside local communities, there are plenty of people who may be said to "fear nudity".

Does that make sense? http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/happy.gif

Stu

[Liam]

Originally posted by Still_Boreas:
(One poster even suggested that people be allowed to smoke pot nude in public. http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/wink3.gif)

Okay! OK! Now we are talking! I'm all for that. Reminds me of some great nude parties back in the 60s and 70s!! Love not War!! http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/smoking.gif

[Pete Knight]

Originally posted by Stu2630:
My point is, therefore, that outside of naturism and inside local communities, there are plenty of people who may be said to "fear nudity".

Does that make sense? http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/happy.gif

Stu

None at all Stu, you seem to think that a majority think as you do, but I think you're deluded, you are in fact very much of a minority. Most of the comments were positive, and the locals know that an increase in tourism would be good for them.

Any negative comments are usually from out and out prudes, but I don't believe you fall into that category!! The prudes attitude relates to their social conditioning, whereas yours is related to your psychological conditioning as a result of your early years.

Resist and fight as much as you like, but liberalisation is coming to Britain, and one day every beach will be clothing optional.

Pete Knight

[Naturist Mark]

Clothes fear me.

[hm0504]

Of the nudists I know, a seemingly disproportionate number are in the clothing business.

[NudstRalph]

I sure don't fear clothes but I really don't like to wear them. Nude is better!

[Boreas]

Clearly, the link I showed indicates that there is no shortage of people who contributed who have a strong antipathy towards nudity and it appears from their comments that most of those were locals. My point is, therefore, that outside of naturism and inside local communities, there are plenty of people who may be said to "fear nudity".

Does that make sense?

Actually Stu I still stand by what I said before. When I looked at your link I saw posts that were mostly in favour of the nude beach and some nudity. Perhaps I need to read it again. Perhaps we only see what supports our views. http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/happy.gif

[nacktman]

Clothes fear me.

Best answer so far, by far! http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/eusa_dance.gif

Leave it to Mark to put it all in perspective.

[andy_ma]

I don't fear clothes and they do serve a purpose at certain times. However, I can say, that the longer I live the lifestyle the more that clothes can depress me. If I am dressed for overly long times or in situations that I would be more comfortable nude, I am not as happy of a person as I am nude.

[Stu2630]

Pete

..you seem to think that a majority think as you do, but I think you're deluded, you are in fact very much of a minority.

I'm not as daft as that, Pete. I know that my own level of tolerance is lower than is typical - but I also know that most people have limits when it comes to nudity. People accept nudity in particular circumstances but not others. Go and sunbathe naked in a park on a summer's day in the UK, and you'll soon find yourself in no doubt that you've exceeded a lot of people's limits.

Most of the comments were positive, and the locals know that an increase in tourism would be good for them.

They would be positive. If I lived on Jersey, I would be positive about having a clearly defined and segregated nudist beach. What is interesting, though, is that more than a few people were vehemently opposed to the whole idea.

Resist and fight as much as you like, but liberalisation is coming to Britain, and one day every beach will be clothing optional.

I recall that prediction being made back in the sixties - four decades ago! Didn't happen then and I can't see it happening in my lifetime, if ever!! Still, you have your dreams, Pete http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/rolleyes2.gif

Still_Boreas

If you look at the postings again, the following people were either supportive of clearly defined and segregated nudist beaches, or were totally opposed to it:

Tom, Andy, Noelene, Julez, Ton (26), Jamie, Sophie, Mono, Eddie, Diego, Danny, Jed, Sarah, Colin, Andreas, Rico, Seb, Tony, Betty-boop, Liamk, Jerseyman, Mainlander, Tim, Mary-Kate, Jebus, AZ, faz, Mr Blobby,Yoy’ll Take Somebody’s Eye Out, James Angus, Steve, JW, Pericles, Kelvin, JimM, Anthony Fry, Suzanne, bobby, Ali. D

Many of the remainder were self-confessed naturists (or people who say they like being nude) and very many of them don't have any connection with the island of Jersey.

All I'm trying to demonstrate is that people who have issues or concerns about public nudity are by no means rare or unusual.

Stu

[nudefree03]

Least he has some dreams, instead of being a sad pessimistic man! Why do you continue to visit this site? I read another post from you saying the longest you've been nude is 10 minutes-then why are you on this site? I hate to seem so opposed to you, but I am, because I really can't understand why you post here.

[Stu2630]

nudefree03

I'm not sad or pessimistic. I am very happy with the status quo and, in spite of Pete's prediction, I don't see it changing in a way that would adversely affect me. I would like to see nudists pushing for, and getting, more and better beaches etc, but the idea of having every beach in my country designated "clothing optional" is absurd and would be unacceptable to many people. Nudists have rights - but so do the rest of us. That's why nudists should focus on getting more places where they can get naked rather than trying to force the rest of us to allow them to get naked everywhere.

Why am I on this site? I find the topic interesting and I enjoy the discussions. http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/happy.gif

Stu

[smoothmike]

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[KetchumMaine]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!! My clothes are attacking me, get them off me, get them off me!!!! Is there a moth in the house??

[missouriboy]

Originally posted by hm0504:
Of the nudists I know, a seemingly disproportionate number are in the clothing business. HAH! Why, even I once (no, TWICE!) worked at a shoe factory! http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/beam.gif

[fred950]

I pretty much echo what Shyaybare posted. I don't fear as much as I don't like clothes. http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/anxious.gif

[nudebushwalker]

In one of "Stu's" earlier posts, I remember him claiming that 95% of people agreed with his opinions ...
Where's his evidence for that statement ..
How much more deluded can one individual be ?

[Bare in the Desert]

I don't fear my clothes as much as I fear what's on them. Just found some information about the dangers of household detergents. Just another good reason to stay nude!

I'll have to look the prices of those natural brands.

http://www.betternutrition.com/print_doc.cfm?doc_id=553

[fredm74]

Thanks for the tip, BareintheDesert. I personally use Method products, there natural and good for the environment.

http://www.methodhome.com/products/laundry.php

Originally posted by Bare in the Desert:
I don't fear my clothes as much as I fear what's on them. Just found some information about the dangers of household detergents. Just another good reason to stay nude!

I'll have to look the prices of those natural brands.

http://www.betternutrition.com/print_doc.cfm?doc_id=553

[tarsus]

is answer to the question. "no"; but i do fear sunburn. lol
pass the "sp 35".

[Nude in the North]

There are many levels of fear.
And I'm sure most textiles don't fear being nude as much as they fear being seen nude

Embarrassment is more of a factor than fear.
People that are not used to seeing nudity become embarrassed the instant they see someone ( or even pictures or art work ) nude.

To be seen nude themselves, is the ultimate embarrassment. So in that respect , yes they Fear nudity.

Nudists on the other hand, are quite accustomed to seeing people clothed. They often need to wear clothing themselves in public places.
Few if any people manage to remain nude throughout their childhood and into adult hood. I doubt that anyone could live for 20 years or more without seeing people wearing clothing.
But it would be easy to live that long without seeing someone nude.

That, coupled with clothing being the "norm" explains why few if any people would build up any level of "fear" of clothing.

Steve

[shãybare]

http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/cool4.gif
I agree fully with you Steve. But did you read or hear of the woman that was lost in the jungle, in Cambodia I think, at 8 years old and she is now in her twenties? This is just recent as I read it only over the weekend.

There are many levels of fear.
And I'm sure most textiles don't fear being nude as much as they fear being seen nude...
...To be seen nude themselves, is the ultimate embarrassment. So in that respect , yes they Fear nudity.

I agree with you on that point and furthermore...

Nudists on the other hand, are quite accustomed to seeing people clothed. They often need to wear clothing themselves in public places.


I agree with that.. as we live in a culture that chastises public nudity, and labels it sexual. one HAS TO wear clothes in the open public, or risk Jail time. or at least a modest fine.

however, let me draw an analogy from another alternative lifestyle. the "GAY" lifestyle
first i understand that not all "Gay" people even recognize it as a "lifestyle" but thats not my point here...I continue...It is common thought in our culture that if you have an opposing view to the "gay" lifestyle, you are thought of as being "homophobic" or otherwise in fear of Gay-ness, or Gay people etc...
why then do the logic rules seem to change then when we talk about "nudism"

of all the studying that I have done over the last year, I have come to the conclusion that Nudists see the "clothed" lifestyle something of an option, and one to be disdained, or otherwise undesired, a subject of many jokes i have seen. (like the conjecture that there would one day be "clothed" resorts, as nudity is the norm everywhere)

would it not be true than that nudists "hate" to don a covering in order to blend in to the masses? and would not this be a form a fear?

so I still stand on my opinion that nudists fear "being clothed" like a heterosexual fears being labeled a homosexual.


Few if any people manage to remain nude throughout their childhood and into adult hood. I doubt that anyone could live for 20 years or more without seeing people wearing clothing.
But it would be easy to live that long without seeing someone nude.

That, coupled with clothing being the "norm" explains why few if any people would build up any level of "fear" of clothing.

A valid point, which might explain why we see this phenomenon in the homosexual analogy. you cant even watch a hour of TV, read the paper or whatever without being exposed to the "GAY" lifestyle. so it has become a "norm" in the minds of many. unlike public nudity, which remains a taboo" which is a strange thing if you think about it. because the more "normal" something is, you would think the less "fearful" it would be.
so as it would be, we have many fearing nudity, but few fearing clothed-ness. yet we have yet we have many fearing homosexuality, just because they are not GAY and the gay lifestyle is almost considered a "norm"

seems to me that the logic rules indicate someone is in denial.

just to settle the nerves of someone... I an nude right now, and "I hate to wear clothes", I do it anyway when I have to. so In that respect, I fear clothing.


Steve

[Unwired]

Originally posted by Segnet:
...the more "normal" something is, you would think the less "fearful" it would be.

Oh, if only that were the case...

I think I'm identifying the point you're trying to make...that there exsists a line of cultural divisiveness and phobia for nudists against "textiles" much as there exists one on the part of some straight people against gays. I believe that's what you're trying to say; I'm just not sure I agree with it. The attempt to identify the gay minority and the textiled majority as somewhat similar in terms of the object of phobias seems a bit of a reach.

Also, as an aside, I'm a bit curious as to why you seem to have fixated on the gay community as a means of drawing an analogy. If anything I would think that as targets of prejudice and repression (to varying degrees) from the majority, the nudist side of the analogy might be a bit more able to relate than textiles.



UW

[NewShyNJGuy]

Originally posted by fredm74:
Thanks for the tip, BareintheDesert. I personally use Method products, there natural and good for the environment.

http://www.methodhome.com/products/laundry.php

i followed your link to their site. if you go to http://www.methodhome.com/whatfor/ you can see a couple cleaning in the buff. how's that for nudist friendly? Title of the page? "people against dirty" Just thought I'd share.