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Gary Naturist
12-27-2003, 03:08 AM
From a feature article in Florida Today:
The expression on Jack Nicholson's face when he inadvertently spots Diane Keaton in the buff in "Something's Gotta Give" is priceless and typical.
Old naked women, no matter how accomplished or stunning, are rarely considered appealing or desirable -- at least in Hollywood. This holiday season, however, Keaton's full frontal nudity and Helen Mirren's partial nude scenes in "Calendar Girls" are the talk of the town.
"It's about time," says Kevin Thompson, who covers television and movies for The Palm Beach Post. "Diane looked good!"
For Keaton, the choice was simple. "I really didn't think much of it," Keaton, 57, said during a recent interview to promote the film in New York. "I mean, it was like what do I have to hide? Besides, I didn't think anyone would really want to look at me anyway. I think I would have been more worried about exposing myself at 20 than I am now."
"I am what I am, and my body is what it is," she said.
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What a great attitude she has. We are seeing more and more full, casual nudity in movies, including involving older actors, Kathy Bates being a prime example.
Gary
Gary Naturist
12-27-2003, 03:08 AM
From a feature article in Florida Today:
The expression on Jack Nicholson's face when he inadvertently spots Diane Keaton in the buff in "Something's Gotta Give" is priceless and typical.
Old naked women, no matter how accomplished or stunning, are rarely considered appealing or desirable -- at least in Hollywood. This holiday season, however, Keaton's full frontal nudity and Helen Mirren's partial nude scenes in "Calendar Girls" are the talk of the town.
"It's about time," says Kevin Thompson, who covers television and movies for The Palm Beach Post. "Diane looked good!"
For Keaton, the choice was simple. "I really didn't think much of it," Keaton, 57, said during a recent interview to promote the film in New York. "I mean, it was like what do I have to hide? Besides, I didn't think anyone would really want to look at me anyway. I think I would have been more worried about exposing myself at 20 than I am now."
"I am what I am, and my body is what it is," she said.
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What a great attitude she has. We are seeing more and more full, casual nudity in movies, including involving older actors, Kathy Bates being a prime example.
Gary
TXK NUDE
12-27-2003, 03:26 AM
Hurray for Diane! Why Jack Nicholson should be surprised is beyond me...he's a home nudist from all I hear about him. That statement about older women nude not being desireable in Hollywood is part of the problem with America today. When popular entertainment only wants to show trim, attractive, young females in the nude, then the myth that all women should look like their eighteen with "perfect" bodies is propagated from the oldest to the youngest! Kathy Bates and Diane Keaton get my vote for the People's Choice Award for finally breaking the stereotype and showing that older woman can be beautiful nude!
RalphVa
12-27-2003, 04:25 AM
He was just acting in the movie. Guess he's acting like a lot of men in America would, but probably somewhat exagerated.
I'll go hiking with a naked Diane Keaton any ole day.
I thought he was over-reacting to the situation, although I'm sure Stu's reaction would be similar to that. I would have simply turned away to avoid causing her any embarrassment unless she said it didn't matter.
NuTex
12-27-2003, 12:11 PM
I understand that Jack Nicholson's reaction is his character's reaction. In the movie he's only interested in young women and then falls in love with the mother of one of his girlfriends. The mother is played Diane Keaton.
NuTex
NuTex
12-27-2003, 12:12 PM
That being said do we actually see her nude or is it just implied? And in what setting? Sexual or otherwise?
NuTex
I think a lot of TV "nudity" is only implied. I've seen different movies where young boys were supposed to be nude. However, when you got a good enough look because of the camera angle, you could tell that they were wearing a flesh-colored, skin-tight body suit that made them "look" nude. One boy was bare above the waist and had the body suit on his lower body, but I could see a ring around his waist where they couldn't hide the waist band on the body suit. This was a Disney movie where he was changed into a mouse by a witch. When he was changed back to a boy, he was supposed to be nude. Here the nudity was implied. I'd be willing to bet a lot of other nudity is faked that way. The flesh-colored body suit makes it nearly impossible to tell that they're not really nude.
GeorgAZ
12-28-2003, 02:41 PM
I found the movie somethings gotta give entertaining
Bob S.
12-28-2003, 06:00 PM
It's a comedy. Of course Jack's character is going to overreact. It's done for comedic effect. And he was seeing her as she was changing clothes in her bedroom, nothing sexual.
Jon-Marc, there is one movie where four boys are actually naked. In the movie, "Now and Then" there is a scene where the four main characters (girls) happen upon four boys skinny-dipping (they are four brothers who love to antagonize them). After the boys come out of the lake, the girls quickly gather up their clothes and run away from them. he boys give chase, picking up objects to hide their front sides, but the camera shows them giving chase from the backside and shows their naked behinds.
Bob S.
MikeJB
12-28-2003, 06:29 PM
Yeah I know alot of studios probably use those fake skin covering outfits but speaking in words they can understand, dont they think that it might help their budget, just a little bit if they just let the actors go nude? I mean they might have to pay them to do so but if they either dont mind acting nude without a fee or can somehow lower it or make a deal with the studio then its ultimately cheaper to let them go nude. Besides even for those actors who dont want people to see their bodies, our digital technology is good at reducing or eliminating certain parts, although this brings us right back to where we were with the skin outfits its at least closer to reality and only certain parts are fuzzed out, as little as is needed. Mostly though it would be nice if directors could just talk the actors into going naked and explain the importance of it and say that it might give them more support and higher ratings from their fans if they did it.
There's lots of nudity on Australian TV, including big name actors and actresses.
The govt SBS channel often screens European films with full frontal [what a daft phrase] nudity and sometimes carefully filmed sex scenes.
To digress a little, the European film-makers seem to have the ability to make sex look romantic and/or fun and thus acceptable and appropriate, unlike their Hollywood counterparts.
To get back to [non-sexual] nudity, the govt ABC channel and the commercial stations have to be more careful than SBS with nudity. What seems to happen is this, they gradually push the limits until some out-of-touch govt minister, possibly in an over-reaction to a handful of complaints, imposes his own ideas of censorship.
Just a little example. A number of years ago, when Pay-TV was expanding in Australia, an independent survey found that 80% of Australians were in favour of allowing sex and nudity on Pay-TV. That's not to say that 80% necessarily want to view it, but Australians traditionally give everyone a fair go, ie freedom of choice. The govt minister for communications at the time said that Pay-TV could not show sex and nudity, because the public "did not want it". Is he stupid, dishonest, or both? And this guy, with a proven inability for rational judgement, makes far-reaching decisions which affect many facets of Australian business and economy.
I think this stupidity and dishonesty is common throughout politics and the bureaucracy. I don't wonder the world is in a mess.
David77
12-29-2003, 04:43 AM
In Illinois, USA, the cable TV company presented studies to the Illinois court revealing that the majority in their viewing area watched nudity and some sex. Thus the court determined that viewing nudity and some sex met the requirements of the law of "meeting community standards".
Thus, nudity and soft porn is seen on a number of "premiun channels" and on "pay TV channels" in that geographic viewing area. Such programs as HBO's program called "Real Sex" and soft porn on other channels are seen.
Across the river from Illinois, in nearby Missouri, the same cable company can not show this, as is allowed in Illinois.
Hi David77,
It seems to me that Illinois got it right, because they listened to factual survey results and common sense and Missouri got it wrong because they followed the old stupidity, don't ask the people what they want, TELL them what they want.
I don't know what "soft porn" is. Maybe someone can enlighten me.
David77
12-30-2003, 06:16 AM
It is when the nude bodies are freely shown in sexual activities, but at such an angle that the area of "sexual connectioning" is not completely visable.
Thanks,
We get plenty of that on Australian govt SBS TV [which shows a lot of European films].
It doesn't bother me. I don't think it bothers hardly anyone.
NewAndNude
12-30-2003, 07:25 PM
"I think a lot of TV "nudity" is only implied. I've seen different movies where young boys were supposed to be nude. However, when you got a good enough look because of the camera angle, you could tell that they were wearing a flesh-colored, skin-tight body suit that made them "look" nude. One boy was bare above the waist and had the body suit on his lower body, but I could see a ring around his waist where they couldn't hide the waist band on the body suit. This was a Disney movie where he was changed into a mouse by a witch. When he was changed back to a boy, he was supposed to be nude. "
You are referring to the movie "The Witches" starring Anjelica Huston as The Grand Witch. I have seen this one several times on ABC Family and Disney so even if the nudity was supposed to be implied it was probably a body stocking of some sort. However from seeing it several times it doesn't look that way to me. The kid is about 11 or 12 I believe. He morphs back into a boy and runs to the window to thank the witch outside who changed him back and while he's doing this his grandmother walks over with a blanket to give him something to cover up with. It's a quick edit but I don't ever remember seeing any indication of a body stocking being worn in the six or so times I've seen it. Great movie, by the way. Henson productions always are.
http://www.suntimes.com/ebert/ebert_reviews/1990/08/563696.html
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0100944/
"Here the nudity was implied. I'd be willing to bet a lot of other nudity is faked that way. The flesh-colored body suit makes it nearly impossible to tell that they're not really nude. "
Usually there's either a body stocking or a body double, depending on the scene, unless you're watching Cinemax or Showtime in which case usually what you see is what you get, though that's almost never non sexual nudity.
Jochanaan
12-31-2003, 09:30 AM
Does anybody remember A Room with a View from the 1980s? It had a wonderful skinny-dipping scene, with adult men shown full-frontal, and to me it looked entirely realistic.
And there's also the famous (or infamous, depending on your point of view) coed shower in Starship Troopers. It looked real too. I've also read that its director Paul Verhoeven got naked during filming to encourage the actors. It might be interesting to find out if doing this scene changed the perspective of anyone involved...
NewAndNude
12-31-2003, 06:10 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jochanaan:
Does anybody remember A Room with a View from the 1980s? It had a wonderful skinny-dipping scene, with adult men shown full-frontal, and to me it looked entirely realistic.
And there's also the famous (or infamous, depending on your point of view) coed shower in Starship Troopers. It looked real too. I've also read that its director Paul Verhoeven got naked during filming to encourage the actors. It might be interesting to find out if doing this scene changed the perspective of anyone involved... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I think that most non-sexual nudity in movies and television these days is limited to toddlers and small children. Which is why diaper commercials can get away with showing baby bottoms, it's just a baby so who cares? Another example is in "Everybody's All American." One of the female characters is tending to two small children around ages 3 and 4, a boy and a girl. She brings them up from playing at a lake and they enter an outdoor shower that has a cubicle that comes up to about her neck. While talking to a male friend of hers who has come to visit she removes the childrens' swimsuits, then her own, while they take a quick shower to remove any sand and debris. Then she opens the door up and the two kids come running out, full frontal nudity on display, and run up a long set of stone stairs leading to her cottage. Before she comes out she grabs a towel and wraps it around herself, but it is quite obvious she is nude underneath as all three of their swimsuits are shown hanging over the edge of the shower. The two children can't be more than four years old, and she even makes the comment "you don't know how good it is to see a face above the age of six." But it's still full frontal for both children and direct nudity of the actress -- it's just that she comes out in a towel while the kids come out wearing nothing.
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