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walter05

08-08-2007, 06:48 AM

We have several threads focusing on attracting new nudists. We also have threads wondering what it will take to get more acceptance for nudism.

Zammit registered on July 27. He has been on the forums for two weeks. He is told he has a stupid post, a trick question, etc.

Y'all claim that no one cares. However, there are long threads talking about circumcision or not. There are also long threads talking about erections. It is clear that nudists do look and do care.

If you want to attract more people to nudism, you need to be inviting. In order to be inviting, you have to accept all questions, even those already addressed.

For Zammit;

If you want to send me a private message, I will attempt to help answer any questions without criticism.

As far as your question is concerned, one's penis has a variety of states and sizes. Erection or not, temperature, coming out of water, etc. affect penis size. If someone sees your penis, that person will not really know what the size is. Therefore, don't worry about it.

For everyone else;

If you want to attract new people to nudism, you must be inviting. Please be warm and gracious to new nudists.

simonsebs

08-08-2007, 08:02 AM

Originally posted by walter05:
We have several threads focusing on attracting new nudists. We also have threads wondering what it will take to get more acceptance for nudism.

Zammit registered on July 27. He has been on the forums for two weeks. He is told he has a stupid post, a trick question, etc.

Y'all claim that no one cares. However, there are long threads talking about circumcision or not. There are also long threads talking about erections. It is clear that nudists do look and do care.

If you want to attract more people to nudism, you need to be inviting. In order to be inviting, you have to accept all questions, even those already addressed.

For everyone else;

If you want to attract new people to nudism, you must be inviting. Please be warm and gracious to new nudists.

You have to understand that there are some grizzled veterans on this board. When you've been here for a long time some questions start to get redundant. Topics about the penis being the most often.

The reason I think some people have said what they have is out of worry. If a person visiting the forum sees numerous topics devoted to penis size, erections, and shaving they'll think thats all nudists care about. You're right that we should be nicer to people, but after awhile it gets to be too much. Also, not to sound like a jerk, but a quick search of the forum would have given the answers he was looking for.

But in closing, from what I understand no one cares about it. If a person gives you crap about the size of your penis then they're not a true nudist and you shouldn't be bothered with them. Be happy with what God gave you. Because as small as you think you are, there is probably someone out there even smaller.

David77

08-08-2007, 08:16 AM

Physical anthropology is a branch of anthropology which is concerned with the physical attributes of all groups of persons around the entire world. Thus they measure persons body parts around the world. They find that there is a high correlation between length of penis and length of thumb.

However, you may simply come from "a long line of short penises" in your family.

If you are fat, the suprapubic area of fat may lop over your penis making it merely appear short.

P.S.
Definition of Physical Anthropology
The scientific study of the physical characteristics, variability, and evolution of the human organism.

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All physical variations are accepted at nudist venues, and there are "all" variations.

walter05

08-08-2007, 08:20 AM

Simonsebs;

As usual, you make some valid points.

I just want people to be more civil and welcoming.

I agree with your statement that people don't care. I also agree that no one would say anything about it.

As has been pointed out the Frequently Asked Questions section is not working. Perhaps if it was visible, someone could get the question answered without starting a new, redundant topic.

Also, I think that the moderators could take a post of a new topic, and if they see that it is related to an older topic, add a post that the post was being copied to that topic and close the new topic. After a sufficient amount of time, the new topic would be deleted.

This would enable someone to get his question answered either from the frequently asked questions or via an existing topic. Do you think this would work?

blackbare6

08-08-2007, 10:41 AM

Yo Zammit; the truth is , no one cares! It is after all your dick. Just be glad you have one. Personally , I was never so glad to be a guy than when I saw my kids being born!
Henry

RCH44

08-08-2007, 10:56 AM

I would not worry about the size. In nude beaches and resorts you see all shapes and sizes.
Be nude and happy.

Ralph

Originally posted by zammit:
I never measured myself with anyone, but I sort of have a small penis. What will people think?

Fuzzy Nuts

08-08-2007, 11:54 AM

Just wondering if anybody posted that they wouldn't go naked because their penis was too big?

simonsebs

08-08-2007, 12:10 PM

Originally posted by Fuzzy Nuts:
Just wondering if anybody posted that they wouldn't go naked because their penis was too big?

Someone (http://clothesfreeforums.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/3400016152/m/9270030374) did. http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/laugh.gif

Buzzer

08-08-2007, 01:36 PM

http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/happy.gif A smile is always the right size!

Rabid_Clam

08-08-2007, 02:22 PM

Social nudity is not a contest of penis size, reast size, butt size or any other attribute other than your personality. And that is all that counts. If your penis works, gets erect and passes urine, then it is normal and fully acceptable in all forums.

David77

08-08-2007, 03:01 PM

If your penis works, gets erect -----, then it is normal and fully acceptable in all forums.

Clam,
In response to your statement, what if you have ED, problems of erection? Does that mean that you are not "acceptable in all forums"? http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/rolleyes2.gif Just kidding!

tinner666

08-08-2007, 04:54 PM

Originally posted by walter05:
We have several threads focusing on attracting new nudists. We also have threads wondering what it will take to get more acceptance for nudism.

Zammit registered on July 27. He has been on the forums for two weeks. He is told he has a stupid post, a trick question, etc.

Y'all claim that no one cares. However, there are long threads talking about circumcision or not. There are also long threads talking about erections. It is clear that nudists do look and do care.

If you want to attract more people to nudism, you need to be inviting. In order to be inviting, you have to accept all questions, even those already addressed.

For Zammit;

If you want to send me a private message, I will attempt to help answer any questions without criticism.

As far as your question is concerned, one's penis has a variety of states and sizes. Erection or not, temperature, coming out of water, etc. affect penis size. If someone sees your penis, that person will not really know what the size is. Therefore, don't worry about it.

For everyone else;

If you want to attract new people to nudism, you must be inviting. Please be warm and gracious to new nudists.

I'll apologize! When you put it in that light, I can see I was too harsh. But I was trying to point out 'It isn't an issue!' Nudists and naturists don't care.
Maybe somebody making a pass at you will care? Or Not, if they're making a pass at you! But that wouldn't be appropiate in most venues. IMHO

OZJames

08-08-2007, 05:40 PM

Being a boring accountant I couldn't help but to look in the dictionary -

the long and the short of it
something that you say when you intend to tell someone something in the quickest and simplest way possible. Anyway, the long and the short of it is that he's not going to be working for us any more.

Cambridge International Dictionary of Idioms © Cambridge University Press 1998
the long and the short of it
the truth of the matter The long and the short of it is that physical activity is extremely good for your health!

Cambridge Dictionary of American Idioms © Cambridge University Press 2003

the truth of the matter is that it doesn't matter. People generally worry about their body image . The great thing about nudism is that nudists do not care they just ENJOY.

http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/beam.gif <span class="ev_code_RED">JAMES</span> http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/beam.gif

DoctorSurferDude

08-08-2007, 07:56 PM

What size is your appendix?

MJ_KC

08-08-2007, 08:46 PM

Originally posted by DoctorSurferDude:
What size is your appendix?
Mine is long gone along with my spleen.

GaryCooper675

08-09-2007, 05:36 AM

Once again, I'm blown away by the insults on these posts. Zammit is a new member. Lighten up guys!! Why is his question so out of the ordinary? Just because you're pros at being naked? You think he wants to be a part of this community when even the simplest question is slammed back in his face? Seriously, it amazes me the venom that flows through these postings. RELAX!!! Let's get naked!

walter05

08-09-2007, 02:33 PM

Zammit;

Please feel free to ask any questions. Tinner666 and I welcome them.

Walter

Naturist Mark

08-09-2007, 03:34 PM

Y'all claim that no one cares. However, there are long threads talking about circumcision or not. There are also long threads talking about erections. It is clear that nudists do look and do care.
I wouldn't assume that the people who repeatedly post about their own and other people's penises are nudists. In fact, do not assume the majority of people on this site are nudists - many come here out of curiosity, or a desire to learn about nudism and/or to see if it is something for them. Or to see and talk about naked people and their penises. All of that is just fine, learning is always a good thing. But please do not assume that nudists have a penis obsession just because online nudist boards are full of penis topics - that is typical of the internet but atypical of nudists.

Here are some facts, plenty of nudists have small penises, particularly those of us with big guts - that can make the penis length when in a standing position recede to zero. A very few nudists have large penises. Nudists really do not seem to care. Sure we can see each other's equipment, but it just isn't an issue at the resort, or on most beaches. No one is going to refuse to be your friend because you are too big or too small. Or because you are bald, or hairy, or have surgical scars.

Non nudists find it nearly impossible to believe, but learning to leave clothes out of the equation does not make the appearance of the body more important in social interaction, it makes it LESS important.

Rest assured, the people most concerned about your penis, or any other body part, are not nudists.

MJ_KC

08-09-2007, 05:06 PM

Originally posted by Naturist Mark:
Rest assured, the people most concerned about your penis, or any other body part, are not nudists.
What Mark said is correct. They have something else in mind other than just being a nudist.

David77

08-09-2007, 06:00 PM

I think that the persons most concerned about their penis size, are those who are most insecure about their manliness. To them, their penis symbolizes their manhood. Possibly they did not get a chance in childhood to identify enough with their father and his manliness to feel entirely strong in their maleness.

As we know, boys identify with their father's in their maleness and girls identify with their mother's femaleness. If we see a boy with mannerisms like his father's, we can be glad that he had a strong bond psychologically with is father. If he has not had this good fortune to identify enough with his father or father figure, possibly he is insecure about his manliness, manhood.

To compensate, he may become extra macho acting. In any event, he may feel insecure about his penis size which to him is a great symbol of manhood - unfortunately, he may not feel that his penis size has nothing to do with his being a real fine man.

If genetically, this same type person has a small penis, he may be apprehensive in letting women see it, as he may feel that his love asperations, women, will feel that he is inadequate - which he is not - but that is another story.

Persons need to know what this board is telling them, that is, physical variations and penis size do not set them apart in a nudist venue but that they are accepted by all, according to their behavior and friendliness.

walter05

08-10-2007, 08:40 AM

With all due respects to Naturist_Mark and MJ_KC, I agree and disagree.

The circumcision and shaving threads are dominated by nudists.

The erection threads have also included numerous contributions from true nudists.

It is clear that if a person walks up to me, I see the person. If the person is a male and nude, I will also see his penis. However, the notice is momentary along with all other body parts and features. After that, it is ignored.

I agree that appearance of any parts of the body does not really matter not only to nudists but to real human beings.

Rabid_Clam

08-10-2007, 02:07 PM

To speak to the ED comment, I was speaking of someone who had an erection. If a person has ED, well, I would not know unless he mentioned it. Either way, erect or soft the penis is acceptable in any form. As are any other body shape. We are just people.

TheNorm

08-10-2007, 04:58 PM

Originally posted by DoctorSurferDude:
What size is your appendix? Now THAT'S a trick question! http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/laugh.gif

Fuzzy Nuts

08-10-2007, 06:01 PM

Mine went years ago.

webbguy

08-10-2007, 09:18 PM

Well, a few here accused me of having a semi erect on my pic,which is a lie, but I really do think a real nudist will not even see it, everyone is human , so we are all not non sexual, but as nudist we all just love the sun and friendship and want to meet SINCERE friends here.

toadfish327

08-11-2007, 02:01 AM

Zammit,
Are you sure you have a small penis? Have you been comparing yourself to others in a locker room? In my humble opinion, you are never too old, too young, too thin, too fat, too short, too tall, too scarred, etc, etc to enjoy being nude. I met a guy through this forum who lived at a nudist resort that was very small in the penis category. He was extremely pleasant to talk to. Just get out and get naked and you will soon lose the fear of having a small penis and gain a better image of your body.

RichNH

08-11-2007, 03:52 AM

Originally posted by DoctorSurferDude:
What size is your appendix?

I DON'T KNOW!!! I'm too shy to let it see the light of day much less even look at it. Some things are simply improper and I think that this is one of them, methinks the doctor crosses the line! http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/sad3.gif

Rich
http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/laugh.gif

RichNH

08-11-2007, 03:56 AM

Oh and BTW, the day the picture that I use for my avatar was taken, my penis was particularly small, testes were pretty tight too... Just in case anyone was wondering....

Rabid_Clam

08-11-2007, 11:19 AM

Well, RichNH, that is natural! The penis and scrotum will shrink in cold to maintain body heat and avoid thermal damage to the parts.

But having a small penis even in warm weather is no crime either. And if the owner can get all he needs out if it, then that is all that counts.

kelly99

08-11-2007, 02:12 PM

Don't be too self-concious. I've been a naturist for 35 years and the only time I was ridiculed for being small (1.5") was by 1 guy and 2 female teens. I shrugged it off and moved down the beach.

Terry nude

08-11-2007, 02:13 PM

Originally posted by Zammit:
I never measured myself with anyone, but I sort of have a small penis. What will people think?

My advice...get over it.

nacktman

08-11-2007, 02:26 PM

Originally posted by Zammit:
I never measured myself with anyone, but I sort of have a small penis. What will people think?

You could always purchase a penis extension, such as the one depicted below!

<span class="ev_code_RED">(But you'd better hurry the opportunity to get a penis extension like this doesn't last long! It'll only be around for a short time!)</span>

Terry nude

08-11-2007, 03:02 PM

Originally posted by nacktman:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Zammit:
I never measured myself with anyone, but I sort of have a small penis. What will people think?

You could always purchase a penis extension, such as the one depicted below!

<span class="ev_code_RED">(But you'd better hurry the opportunity to get a penis extension like this doesn't last long! It'll only be around for a short time!)</span> </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Or he can really be dumb and try nonsense like this...

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/217XRVJHMSL._AA280_.jpg (http://ec1.images-amazon.com)

But I think it would be better, in this case, that he simply except who he is and get on with life. Some things can be changed, some things are better left as is.

MJ_KC

08-11-2007, 03:20 PM

Originally posted by nacktman:
You could always purchase a penis extension, such as the one depicted below!
Got one already.

Bob S.

08-11-2007, 07:59 PM

People, realize that zammit may be a teen. He still lives with his parents who view nudity as obscene and has never been out of his house naked.

He is absolutely a newbie.

As for the original question, as Tinner and others have mentioned, nudists don't care.

Bob S.

shaneone

08-11-2007, 08:37 PM

I agree with you Bob, but there are loads of penis threads in here and they all end with the same conclusion, who cares?? you have what you have, live with it

Elendil

08-11-2007, 11:55 PM

Originally posted by shaneone:
I agree with you Bob, but there are loads of penis threads in here and they all end with the same conclusion, who cares?? you have what you have, live with it

Here, here!

Rabid_Clam

08-12-2007, 05:37 AM

we have all this on penis, what of belly buttons? Innies and outties?

I just sold my corvette. A boat is a hole in the water you throw money into, a vette is a pair of bucket seats on 4 wheels you throw money into.

NCguy49

08-12-2007, 05:52 AM

Originally posted by Rabid_Clam:
we have all this on penis, what of belly buttons? Innies and outties?

Yeah, there ya go! Now I can relate to that 'cause I sport a very large outie. (aka naval hernia) I have never measured it, but I'm sure I'm near the top when it comes to belly buttons. LOL

Rabid_Clam

08-12-2007, 11:21 AM

I suppose there is a group out there that will argue that your belly button is obscene and you 'have' to do something about it!

The world of 'supposed to'

RichNH

08-12-2007, 06:46 PM

I have an innie, a very proud and deep innie, Sometimes, as Rabid once pointed out, my innie is the only thing that's clothed on me.

Rabid_Clam

08-13-2007, 07:14 AM

Well RichNH, a nice deep innie is a great place to have chip dip when eating chips and dip in bed.

bikerboy

09-04-2007, 03:23 PM

Originally posted by Rabid_Clam:
Well RichNH, a nice deep innie is a great place to have chip dip when eating chips and dip in bed.

That is a good IDEA. I will have to try that. LOL Now this is a thread that can be fun. What else can we do with bellybuttons (innies or outies)?

RichNH

09-04-2007, 03:40 PM

You know Rabid, that's not too bad of an idea, but I have this absolute resolute thing about crumbs in bed. Hmmmmm, perhaps some carrot sticks...

bikerboy

09-04-2007, 08:18 PM

I personally like salsa and chips. But I don't think I want to try putting salsa there. Chili pepper is not something I would suggest anybody put on for fun. LOL However, still like where this is going. How wierd can this get????????

David77

09-04-2007, 08:19 PM

What else can we do with bellybuttons
Some persons use the bellybutton as a depository for cologne.

nudebushwalker

09-04-2007, 10:58 PM

NCGuy49
Yeah, there ya go! Now I can relate to that 'cause I sport a very large outie. (aka naval hernia) I have never measured it, but I'm sure I'm near the top when it comes to belly buttons. LOL

Actually, the medical term is 'umbilical' hernia, for the navel - I naturally have an "innie", but last year it 'popped out' to give me a temporary "outie" - which I had repaired (only day surgery, but it still takes several weeks for full recovery, afterwards..)- so once I'm back in shape, I will have my natural (though this time round, well scarred..) "innie" back again..
In my case, with me doing physical work, and being physically active, this had to be considered as an 'essential' operation (and even for those people who don't exert themselves, not getting it repaired means there is still the risks of 'strangulation', even 'rupture', and then complications from there..).

chuckincville

09-05-2007, 06:47 AM

Originally posted by nacktman:
Aw look, another penis thread! http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/bonk.gif

Instead of calling this a "Forum" maybe they should call it the "Old Boys Network" I get really tired of the superior attidude of some of you old timers. As newbies we are well aware of our ignorance which is why we ask "stupid" questions. (Croydon)
If a topic or "thread" doesn't interest you why on earth do you bother to post?? - or even read it? If you don't have something positive to contribute why not click on something that does interest you? You guys evidently have way "to much time on your hands".
Maybe you'd rather we stick to the "New member" topics and stay away from your your domain (read "click")?
People like Walter05 and David77 you're my heroes. Thanks for your positive and insightful posts.

Chuck

P.S. Hope this topic isn't so old that you guys don't read this!

David77

09-05-2007, 07:16 AM

Chuckincville,
Wow! Thanks. I hope that you have noticed my new PMs.

walter05

09-05-2007, 07:59 AM

Chuckinville;

Thanks for the kind words. If you have a question and are afraid of the fire breathing responses, just PM David and me. We will be happy to answer.

I do understand the veterans being tired of seeing the same topics over and over. However, for a new person, the topic seems new.

I will answer the question on size as I have before and see if it helps you.

The size of one's penis is not static. Temperature, water, how fat one is, how warm and hence how far the testicles hang down allowing for the penis to hang down further affect the appearance. Even erections vary in size. Therefore, since any one penis can have so many different sizes, people who are used to seeing penises don't notice if one is small or not.

Therefore, don't worry about it.

roaddog

09-05-2007, 01:09 PM

Thinking of bellybuttons, I have an inny, and a question has always vexed me. Why, Oh Why, if the fluff that gathers there always a different colour to the shirt I am wearing? When I am wearing one that is. And where the hell does the fluff come from when I am not?????
Cheers
Mick
;-)

Nuddion

09-05-2007, 02:20 PM

Originally posted by walter05:
We have several threads focusing on attracting new nudists. We also have threads wondering what it will take to get more acceptance for nudism.

Zammit registered on July 27. He has been on the forums for two weeks. He is told he has a stupid post, a trick question, etc.

Y'all claim that no one cares. However, there are long threads talking about circumcision or not. There are also long threads talking about erections. It is clear that nudists do look and do care.

If you want to attract more people to nudism, you need to be inviting. In order to be inviting, you have to accept all questions, even those already addressed.

For Zammit;

If you want to send me a private message, I will attempt to help answer any questions without criticism.

As far as your question is concerned, one's penis has a variety of states and sizes. Erection or not, temperature, coming out of water, etc. affect penis size. If someone sees your penis, that person will not really know what the size is. Therefore, don't worry about it.

For everyone else;

If you want to attract new people to nudism, you must be inviting. Please be warm and gracious to new nudists.

I have to admit, his seemingly controversial question hit home for me because I am also a new nudist and I found out firsthand last weekend what happens when you jump into a reservoir naked and then climb out into a bit of a chill. When you are new to it, its something you have to go through in order to find out if naturism is for you, I guess. I thought it was more of a human nature question than a dumb question. Hey women probably go through the same insecurities regarding their breasts, so what, its still worth it for that feeling you get that you're involved in something so un-evil and cleansing.

Nuddion

Rabid_Clam

09-05-2007, 02:35 PM

When it is cold the penis will 'deflate' to conserve body heat. That is quite normal. You can end up with a pimple on your back side if cold enough.

Otherwise if you have a small penis, so what! If it works for you in what you need it for, then its big enough.

simonsebs

09-09-2007, 01:15 PM

Originally posted by chuckincville:
As newbies we are well aware of our ignorance which is why we ask "stupid" questions. (Croydon)

The best advice I can give to new members is to look around first. Search around the main site and scroll through a few pages on the forum before you ask a question. Because more than likely the question has already been covered. This way you can get your question answered and not have to worry about getting your head bit off by all of us who are tired of redundant topics, most about the penis.

windowphobe

09-09-2007, 01:28 PM

So far as I can determine, 50 percent of penises are smaller than average.

Fuzzy Nuts

09-09-2007, 01:50 PM

Yes, but 50% are larger!

newton

09-09-2007, 02:27 PM

Originally posted by Fuzzy Nuts:
Yes, but 50% are larger!

That is not strictly true. Because of the large number involved, some are, in fact, just average.

RichNH

09-09-2007, 04:00 PM

well, I guess it all depends on just how many decimal points you include in the measurement. You could get to the point where nobody at all is exactly average... http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/wink3.gif

Naturist Mark

09-09-2007, 04:26 PM

Actually well over half of all penises may be smaller than average, or larger, depending on the distribution of sizes.

But half are larger or smaller than the MEDIAN size.

-Mark

Fuzzy Nuts

09-09-2007, 04:53 PM

NakedGa;ry - Glad someone else agreed with my stats course in university!

JohnE44

09-10-2007, 06:37 AM

The only thing I can add is when I was in my 20s it took two hands to cover myself,know that I am in my 40s it only takes one hand and my hands have gotten bigger.

chuckincville

09-10-2007, 10:33 AM

Originally posted by simonsebs:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by chuckincville:
As newbies we are well aware of our ignorance which is why we ask "stupid" questions. (Croydon)

The best advice I can give to new members is to look around first. Search around the main site and scroll through a few pages on the forum before you ask a question. Because more than likely the question has already been covered. This way you can get your question answered and not have to worry about getting your head bit off by all of us who are tired of redundant topics, most about the penis. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks for the input.
Not all of us have tons of time to peruse the extensive posts on this site and so ask questions you've obviously answered before. Rest assured, I for one, will be checking out the lists before I ask another question here - or I'll ask someone with a little more patience.

With my very limited experience I thought all nudists were "nice" helpful people - tolerant of newcomers --- so much for gneraliztions, eh?

No one, as yet, has answered the question as to why post or even read a topic you're tired of?

Anyway I find the forum very helpful (overall), sometimes irratating and always entertaining!

At any rate I appreciate your feedback - advice noted and taken.
Thanks
chuck

simonsebs

09-10-2007, 03:26 PM

Originally posted by chuckincville:
Thanks for the input.
Not all of us have tons of time to peruse the extensive posts on this site and so ask questions you've obviously answered before. Rest assured, I for one, will be checking out the lists before I ask another question here - or I'll ask someone with a little more patience.

With my very limited experience I thought all nudists were "nice" helpful people - tolerant of newcomers --- so much for gneraliztions, eh?

No one, as yet, has answered the question as to why post or even read a topic you're tired of?

Anyway I find the forum very helpful (overall), sometimes irratating and always entertaining!

At any rate I appreciate your feedback - advice noted and taken.
Thanks
chuck

I can only speak for myself, but for the most part I do say off of redundant topics. The only reason I've posted on this topic is because I saw what you and Walter05 wrote and felt the need to set the record straight. The only reason I can give as to why people post on certain topics is out of bordem. That would explain all the jokes we see on topics like these.

Also as I said earlier I think some members have said what they have out of worry. We're trying to show the world, and any visitors to this board, that nudism is more then the stereotypes about sex. All the topics about penis size, erections, and shaving don't help our cause.

Now I agree that people here should be nicer and answer the questions of new members. Still even the most patient person will get tried of answering the same questions over and over again sooner or later.

ctmike345

05-25-2008, 05:26 PM

mine's about an inch soft. i was worried and after about 10 minutes was over it. only twice ever has anyone said anything, one was some high school girl who was being obnoxious and i just moved on one was a little kid who asked 'why that mans thingy is so small' i just smiled and laughed with the mom who was more embarased than me. it happens.

David77

05-25-2008, 07:29 PM

A stand-up commedian said,
"I come from a long line of short penisis".

I think that heredity has a lot to do with it, just as features of other parts of our body are inherited - such as size of hands, thumbs, etc.

Pizzaguy

05-27-2008, 10:03 AM

mine's about an inch soft.
Mine too. "Inflated", I have no reason to be worried, but since no one sees it that way, I kinda wondered too.

But I went to my first event two weeks ago, only 3 other guys and 3 women were there .... all of us guys looked remarkably similar.

And beside, NO ONE CARES - nudity is about body and personal acceptance. And for me, it isnt' about other nude people anyway - - it's about MY nudity!

Sure, this is an old, tired topic (and I'v only been here 3 weeks or so), but it is understandable that a guy would worry about this. I know I did, but I don't any more!

valley_nudies

05-27-2008, 12:08 PM

if you are going to places in hopes of somebody lookin at your little one, then that's not nudism. and everyone else is right about what might be small, your knowledge. can't put clothes on on your ignorance.

keep the peace!

Josh-here

05-27-2008, 01:28 PM

You will find shallow and superficial people EVERYWHERE. But I think the vast majority of nudists are the least shallow concerning this type of thing. So no worries. We don't care if you are round and fat or skinny as a skeleton, if your penis or whatever else is tiny or large. We are what we are physically and comfortable in our bodies.

Mosquito_Bait

05-27-2008, 07:11 PM

When I was a boy, I was very thin and I hit puberty early. As a result, I dangled quite a bit lower than my friends and I was actually teased for being too large. Now that I am old and fat, I dangle quite a bit less. I would probably have a complex about it if it weren't for my experience as a kid.

fre2bnude

05-30-2008, 10:13 PM

There's always some of the time when it's small, and some of the time when it's not. I'm not self conscious any more and size don't matter.

andy_ma

05-31-2008, 02:43 AM

I agree with all - who cares! And frankly, at the right beach in some very cold water, any "member" can look small. The best thing about being a nudist, NOBODY cares! It's not important!

Garden

05-31-2008, 07:55 AM

Enjoy your younger years account as one gets older there will be shrinkage.

Garden

Sigmund

05-31-2008, 02:22 PM

Now that I'm old, maybe I can claim that as the cause.:laugh:

fre2bnude

05-31-2008, 11:03 PM

I've heard that as people get older some parts of the body, for instance ears and nose, continue to grow even though you tend to shrink in size generally. Maybe it's a good thing that the penis doesn't continue to grow otherwise it could look ridiculous. Don't think mines shrunk any, nor has it grown.

Mrs. Natura

06-09-2008, 05:34 PM

We are all BEAUTIFUL ~ so don't fret! :)

Nashoba-nowa

06-13-2008, 08:06 AM

Everyone is different, and people really do not care, at least the ones I know do not, small, average, large, there are every type imaginable. Enjoy naturism.

Franklyminim

06-13-2008, 09:21 AM

Won't a small one absorb less sunlight meaning there's more for other people on the beach?!

eagle59

06-13-2008, 09:58 AM

no one will care what size your penis is. If there are people there judging you by your penis, you are at the wrong beach...
It's amazing, you never see threads or posts from women worrying if their breasts are too small?

David77

06-13-2008, 10:19 AM

Sue Johanson, sex therapist on the Oxygen channel on Sunday nights, seems to indicates that "bigger is not better" as a woman's vagina measurements are 4 and a half to 5 and a half inches long, and can not feel sensation past about her first two inches. She states that is why a woman can not feel a tampon far up. Thus a long penis will not give more sensation.

She also states that some men with extra long penises do not have enough blood supply for such a large organ to become erect properly.

So let's hear it for smaller penises"!!! Applause!

steve-o

06-13-2008, 12:57 PM

I never measured myself with anyone, but I sort of have a small penis. What will people think?

Too small for what?

connorsdad

06-13-2008, 01:24 PM

Won't a small one absorb less sunlight meaning there's more for other people on the beach?!

Thats just wrong! Funny but wrong!

connorsdad

06-13-2008, 01:25 PM

fre2bnude

06-19-2008, 10:25 PM

Well, you're the lucky one I suppose, but I'm happy enough just being average and nobody gives me a second glance.

G I Joe

06-20-2008, 11:55 AM

Well I would have to disagree with you here....as I can account for, I have a few tell me, WOW your so "Big" and so forth.....they don't call me tripod for nothing, and I got that name in 1st grade!

Good for you tripod. Pray for the rest of us. There's no envy quiet like penis envy!

David77

06-20-2008, 05:34 PM

Good for you tripod. Pray for the rest of us. There's no envy quiet like penis envy!

Very funny. I do not envy an <i>exceptionally</i> large one.

Oh well, Michaelangelo's statue of David that every one admires seems to have been short-changed in the size department.

nakedbear

06-20-2008, 09:35 PM

David was not short changed - the fetish our culture has for large penises is quite different than what was considered to be aesthetically pleasing in classical Greece - the style of Greek sculpture was Michelangelo's inspiration for David.

Playgirl magazine twenty years ago used to show lots of guys with small or average size penises - would never see that now - part of the super-sizing of America

fre2bnude

06-20-2008, 10:18 PM

MissionNudists

06-21-2008, 03:21 AM

Zammit:
Like baldness it will be noticed, but like baldness not many will care.

For the rest of you folks:
Penis size varies greatly depending on the time of day and the weather conditions; so measuring it is like measuring a fish with a rubber ruler.

Fitz1980

06-21-2008, 05:09 AM

Well, before becoming a nudist I always thought I was below average size, but now I have others to compare with I realise that I'm about average, at least on a warm day. I'm quite happy with that and would never want to have an overlarge one. The man with the worlds largest penis, Jonah Falcon, isn't too happy with his.
Question is connorsdad, how much bigger than average is yours? Do you really stand out in a crowd?

I always though I was average before becoming a nudist at 18, turns out that I'm above average. I never played on a team sport in school so I had never showered in the locker room. I had seen guys in porn films (what teenager hasn't?) but using that as the measure would be like girls judging their breast size based on porn girls; that would lead C-cup women to think that they were the president of the itty bitty titty committee.

baregreg

06-21-2008, 12:32 PM

I think it boils down to wanting more confidence in ones self.

Just like why guys or gals lift weights and exercise there bodies, Whether to have a healthy body or to feel good about themselves.

To the thread starter (or others)- I can give you a link to website that is absolutely "free" if you would like tips on how to increase you penis size. If that's what you would want.

Feel free to PM me for the link. They don't sell gadgets and etc...

MrNaturist

06-21-2008, 03:54 PM

[QUOTEWell, you're the lucky one I suppose, but I'm happy enough just being average and nobody gives me a second glance.

I must agree with this statement!

nuovonudo

06-21-2008, 08:06 PM

Well, before becoming a nudist I always thought I was below average size, but now I have others to compare with I realise that I'm about average. . .

what he said.

fre2bnude

06-24-2008, 11:41 PM

Why do most men want a bigger penis? Because they think it looks more pleasing, in the same way as good muscles and a trim body, not because it needs to be any bigger.

G I Joe

06-25-2008, 05:54 AM

Unfortunately, probably because of the same reason women with small breasts often want larger ones. It's mostly about how we see ourselves. Society has dictated to us that more is better than less; full is better than empty; and bigger is better than smaller regardless of what you are talking about. Body image falls into that same thinking. Average is totally acceptable, but less than that is usually not. And those of us "less" fortunate, will never be able to totally get the "average or above" to understand how it feels. Because they can't.

fre2bnude

06-25-2008, 10:51 PM

Yes, that's it, everybody wants wants to be better than or have more than the next person. It's the, mines bigger than yours so that makes me better, syndrome.

Fitz1980

06-26-2008, 04:55 AM

I know that among the girls that I know it often seems that they all want whatever they don't have. Often the ones with the big natural boobs say they would rather have smaller perky ones. They often feel that they have saggy gross boobies and that they "need" to wear a bra all of the time while if they had smaller ones they could wear backless tops and braless tank tops. Of course much like guys thinking they have small penises (because most guys don't see that many and they ones they do see in porn are huge) textile girls all think they are saggy because they see strippers and playboy models topless and other girls in bras and base their judgment off of that.

baregreg

06-26-2008, 04:58 PM

Yes, that's it, everybody wants wants to be better than or have more than the next person. It's the, mines bigger than yours so that makes me better, syndrome.
The word "everybody" never seems right to me.
"SOME" folks would be better.
And I don't think this really has anything to do with "mines bigger than yours so that makes me better, syndrome."

NudonyII

06-26-2008, 07:12 PM

The word "everybody" never seems right to me.
"SOME" folks would be better.
And I don't think this really has anything to do with "mines bigger than yours so that makes me better, syndrome."

How about: "His is bigger than mine so I must be inadequate" syndrome?:o

baregreg

06-26-2008, 07:53 PM

How about: "His is bigger than mine so I must be inadequate" syndrome?:o
If that's "How" you feel. But no.

Fuzzy Nuts

06-30-2008, 06:33 PM

astaroth - Although I am better than average in the male parts I am horrified at your comments. Does that mean that males should be laughing at all the small breasted ladies out there? I hope not!!!!

G I Joe

07-01-2008, 05:49 AM

I have to say that some friends of mine (girls) can't stop laughing at smalls penis in a nude beach :p

Well, all I can say is that this kind of behavior speaks volumes about your friends (and, hopefully, not you). They obviously are not naturalist--just gawkiers. They belong in a funhouse--not at a nude beach! I would say their "shortcomings" are a lot more than the men they are laughing at!

fre2bnude

07-01-2008, 11:16 PM

MissionNudists

07-02-2008, 04:02 AM

Yes, that's it, everybody wants wants to be better than or have more than the next person. It's the, mines bigger than yours so that makes me better, syndrome.

Yeah, but if we could change to "as good as" or "my best" and want only what we needed, most of our problems would go away.

baregreg

07-02-2008, 10:27 AM

Well I don't know about the rest of you but I'm very much affected by the temperature. On a cool day everything is embarrasingly small and withdrawn whereas on a hot day it all relaxes, hangs better, looks better and makes me feel better. OK it doesn't really matter how small but it still affects how you feel about yourself.
Reminds me of the Seinfeld episode with George and his "shrinkage" issue. If you remember Elaine's line (when George mentioned it to her) "They do that?" :D

Griffin

07-21-2008, 06:29 AM

The short penis issue is mitigated by lots of things, including the fact that some men are growers (their flaccid penis is very small and it can grow to much larger, so its smallness is deceiving); or they are showers, as in show-ers (they show large flaccid and are about the same size when erect). So flaccid size can be deceiving. Obviously, it has been said here a gazillion times that people are not judged -- nor should not be judged - by the structure of their genitals. We cannot really change what nature dealt us.

Nudekj

07-24-2008, 05:16 AM

Nudism is about living freely without the burden of clothes.It´s not about people looking at & comparing the sizes of their genitals.

Fredro Starr

07-30-2008, 09:38 PM

People will think he has a small penis and keep moving. It really is less of a big deal than you think.

FreeinNJ

01-23-2009, 12:38 PM

I never measured myself with anyone, but I sort of have a small penis. What will people think?

as someone who has a small penis, you may get looked at , but it's rare.

Naturist4Ever

01-23-2009, 03:23 PM

I have to say that some friends of mine (girls) can't stop laughing at smalls penis in a nude beach :p

Generally, anything that is extreme (in whatever direction, large, small etc) will draw attention, and often enough ridiculed - it makes joe average look better, joe average likes to be average afterall. That is why penis size reports always state that a few inches is "average" just not to make feel joe average feel bad. No big deal.

In real life, it is much worse to be oversized than undersized - unless you thrive on the wrong sort of attention. Since extrovert people seem to do (must be their nature) they set the scene...

Fitz1980

01-24-2009, 06:51 AM

Generally, anything that is extreme (in whatever direction, large, small etc) will draw attention, and often enough ridiculed - it makes joe average look better, joe average likes to be average afterall. That is why penis size reports always state that a few inches is "average" just not to make feel joe average feel bad. No big deal.

I usually stay out of these size discussions but.....

Actually those reports say average is a few inches because that's accurate. You also have the erect/non-erect, grower/shower issue.

I'm reminded of two conversations that I had with some people. One was when I was drinking with a female friend and my tape measure was sitting on the coffee table. She started joking about measuring that part of the body, but than at some point she reeled the measure out to 7" and marveled that 7" is actually pretty big. To hear most guys tell it they're all nearly 7" erect. Of course this is in textile situations where they know that most of the other people in the room will probably never see them naked. Ladies try it yourself, reel out a tape measure, hold up your hand for comparison; it probably helps if it's a thick construction site measuring tape, not a skinny sewing machine tape to give you a better sense of girth.

The other conversation was with my roommate and a girl who he was seeing. We were talking about the average erect size being 5.5" and she said something to the effect of "Wow, I must have never had an average guy because all of my partners have been bigger than that." My roomie responded by pointing out that he's 5.5" and she was all "no, no, you're way bigger than that." Most women have a distorted sense of size because they aren't exactly pulling out a tape measure in the bedroom. I'm what you would call well endowed, 7.75" erect and I've had girls (sexual partners & friend who I went skinny dipping/streaking with) who are shocked to hear that I'm "about 8 inches" because they were sure that I must be about 10 inches. 10 inches is more like circus freak size. Try reeling that tape measure out to 10" and imagine using that one for it's intended biological function.

Actually most everyone has a pretty distorted sense of size, except for those who actually measure all of the guys for those charts. Guys know how big they are, everyone has tried measuring it, I don't care who you are or what you claim. Thanks to the fact that kids don't shower after school and most gyms have private shower stalls guys don't get much of a chance to see other guys, so most of the other penises they see are in porn, which isn't even close to a representative sample of the male population. Thanks to all of that most textile guys walk around thinking they are the only guy in town who's not packing a "13 iron." That's why all of those con-artists make millions selling pills, pumps and God knows what else through spam e-mail and those idiotic Extenz commercials on late night TV.

I actually think that guys and the penis size issue is similar to girls and the saggy boobs issue. I've known 18 year old girls with large & perfectly shaped breasts who were convinced that they had ugly saggy boobs because when they remove their bras their boobs don't look like the surgically enhanced women (and few "natural wonders") in Playboy Magazine or at the strip club. Heck I remember when American Beauty came out some idiot on a BB saying that her brief topless scene must have some computer enhanced body double because those breasts looked to him more like those of an older woman who's probably already had a few kids rather than a 17 year old like Ms. Birch. I responded by pointing out that "no that's just called a natural D-cup." Clearly he was some kid who's had very little experience with actual naked women and gets his info from the porno industry.

MoonShadow

01-24-2009, 07:23 AM

LOL Fitz! I had to pipe in here because you are right. Most women have no clue about the size of their partner's penis. If they would just take a simple ruler and look at what 5.5 inches is. That is way more than a thimble full. ;) Women also don't realize that their vaginas will only stretch so far. Getting to 7 inches or more is getting quite tricky for women to handle.

In fact, all of you reading this thread should get a ruler or your tape measure from your toolbox and look at what 5.5 inches is. Quite a good size, eh?

David77

01-24-2009, 08:45 AM

MoonShadow

01-25-2009, 07:28 AM

"The vagina varies in length from woman to woman, but is generally 2 1/2 to 4 inches long (from vulva to cervix). In addition, the vagina has the ability to stretch quite a bit, thus allowing an erect penis in, and a baby out"

A man with an extra long penis should "travel part-way", so as not to cause the woman any pain.

Yes, there is some stretch to women's vaginas but a guy with an 8 inch penis or larger is NOT going to be able to go in all the way. There just isn't that much stretch. And the biggest stretching is when a baby is being born where the pelvis shifts and expands. The pelvis in a non-birthing woman does not shift and allow the stretching required.

I guess my whole point is men need to quit worrying if they are large enough or not. You want to be able to enjoy your sex with a woman so don't want for more than can be received :)

Pete Knight

01-25-2009, 07:37 AM

Well now, I think that six inches is all you need, two inches in, two inches out, and two inches in and out.

Nuff said!

Pete Knight

bernardc

02-02-2009, 11:19 AM

Who cares...its nice having him dangle free,no matter what size.We dont look at size....besides...when erect,its not that small any way...so dont worry....enjoy being naked,and dont measure yourself against others.You are unique,and your penis suits you perfectly!

pukunui

02-03-2009, 05:55 AM

As another male with a smaller than average sized penis, take it from me that the issue goes away with more exposure, acceptance of yourself, time or age etc. When I was younger it used to bother me, I would even go as far as to admit that at times I felt ashamed of it. Looking back, this was all self inflicted on my part (no pun intended). Nobody ever commented on it. And besides, if you look around, you'll find there's plenty of men with penis's about your size or even smaller and there's always someone worse off than you. Smaller, fatter, skinnier etc. You have to just accept yourself as what you are and be proud of that.

Now that I'm older and/or more used to being nude in front of others, it's a lot easier to do than when I was younger and less self confident. Yet my penis is still the same. In fact, if I'm to be honest, it even looks smaller than it did back then because my belly is bigger. The difference is, I'm now proud of my penis.

Here's why...
It's given myself and my wife a lot of pleasure over the years.
It's kept one woman satisfied for over 35 years and counting.
It's given me 4 great kids that has lead to 6 beautiful grandkids (so far).
It still works perfectly whenever I want it too and sometimes even when I don't want it too.
And on top of all that. It's cute.

What more could any man want? I now consider myself one of the lucky ones.
Pukunui

Shanghaist

02-03-2009, 08:08 PM

Here's why...
It's given myself and my wife a lot of pleasure over the years.
It's kept one woman satisfied for over 35 years and counting.
It's given me 4 great kids that has lead to 6 beautiful grandkids (so far).
It still works perfectly whenever I want it too and sometimes even when I don't want it too.
And on top of all that. It's cute.

What more could any man want? I now consider myself one of the lucky ones.
Pukunui[/QUOTE]

WELL SAID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I WILL LEAVE THE CUTE PART TO YOU AND YOUR WIFE"S DISCRETION, HA!

Willynillyuk

02-04-2009, 11:14 AM

I have to say that some friends of mine (girls) can't stop laughing at smalls penis in a nude beach :p

So how would they react to a guy with NO penis? Scream in horror and flee?

Pathetic uneducated!

Fresh Air

02-14-2009, 09:00 AM

I never measured myself with anyone, but I sort of have a small penis. What will people think?

What will you think? And, why will you think such?

"They", the other people, truly won't even notice. This is about you, not 'them'.

Journeyman

02-19-2009, 07:19 PM

u r calling my friends uneducated bitches? U r the uneducated one...

and btw yes ,scream in horror maybe....[snip]

Breanna or Astaroth, you are being rude and unkind. The man who is posting - Willynilly - has a rare medical condition that I must admit I was unaware of, but it obviously happens in nature. Accept it.

How would you feel if you never developed breasts but had all the other physical attributes of being a woman? You would still *deserve* to be on the same nude beach as anyone else who did not have a physiological omission. And you would deserve *not* to be laughed at.

I can see from your posts that you are only 20, and that Italian is your first language, but respect among our members here is very important. Intsead of defending your friends who might laugh at someone with a small penis or no penis, maybe you can learn something here about the mysteries of the human body and what we are born with.

Having said that, Willynilly, you could do much to educate people here about your condition with some links that are understandable to the non-medical reader.

Running Bear

02-19-2009, 10:25 PM

and btw yes ,scream in horror maybe....[snip].

This is just so wrong and an insult to another human being.
If a girl has no breast due to a mastectomy she is still a girl. Is a girl who has had a hysterectomy still a woman or do you define that as purely the ability to have babies?
There is ample information on the web concerning genital deformities so there is no excuse for ignorance.
Although I do not like Wilynilys emotive words either. I hope they come from an emotional reaction and the intent is not malicious. Your words can do great harm and I trust you are as ashamed of them as I am.
I have personally met this individual and as far as I am aware he is a human being with a right to be a naturist. I have no concerns over his medical complaint since that is none of my business. All I see is an individual who appears male apart from having no penis. Regardless of how that arises I just accept him for who he is.
Your intolerance is unacceptable here as it goes against the philosophy of "naturism for all".

G I Joe

02-20-2009, 06:18 AM

What will you think? And, why will you think such?

"They", the other people, truly won't even notice. This is about you, not 'them'.

Unfortunately, untrue. Many of "they" notice and have either laughed or made snide remarks as an individual in this state walks by or hears behind his back. There are plenty of posts to prove this point. I have personally both heard and witnessed it often. Hopefully "they" (mostly women) still represent a very small number overall. Yet, it is true, that in the final analyasis, it is about the man himself; both inside and out.

G I Joe

02-20-2009, 06:28 AM

This is just so wrong and an insult to another human being.
If a girl has no breast due to a mastectomy she is still a girl. Is a girl who has had a hysterectomy still a woman or do you define that as purely the ability to have babies?
There is ample information on the web concerning genital deformities so there is no excuse for ignorance.
Although I do not like Wilynilys emotive words either. I hope they come from an emotional reaction and the intent is not malicious. Your words can do great harm and I trust you are as ashamed of them as I am.
I have personally met this individual and as far as I am aware he is a human being with a right to be a naturist. I have no concerns over his medical complaint since that is none of my business. All I see is an individual who appears male apart from having no penis. Regardless of how that arises I just accept him for who he is.
Your intolerance is unacceptable here as it goes against the philosophy of "naturism for all".

ABSOLUTELY TRUE Running Bear. Astaroth's reply is totally ignorant, unacceptable and disgusting! I have met such a man with no penis at a club and had nothing but admiration and respect for him. So did everyone else around. It would take unbelieveable courage and self-esteem to face the world in this condition. I praised him for continuing to live and enjoy the nude lifestyle that he loved. Hopefully, he won't run into too many Astaroth's along the way.

walter05

02-20-2009, 08:58 AM

There are people that have had terrible burns. These burns have left them disfigured. Their faces can look quite odd.

There are people with various other disfigurements.

IF you and your friends will scream when seeing someone disfigured, then y'all are sick.

If a male does not have a penis, either because of a congenital birth defect or some post-birth experience, the human being is not disfigured. There is a problem with the body.

Many women have faced breast cancer and had one or both breasts removed. Many have chosen not to have reconstructive surgery. For them the scars are scars of a war with a cancer that tried to kill them. No one should scream because they have one or no breasts.

You and your so called shallow friends will focus on the disfigurement and scream.

I would prefer to be with someone with a disfigured face, missing one or two breasts, missing one or two testicles, or missing a penis than to be with you. You are missing a heart and compassion. Your inside is hidious and disfigured and that is worst.

MoonShadow

02-20-2009, 09:20 AM

Goodness! Sounds like a couple of people have some anger issues.

Willynilly made an angry remark to a comment made by Astaroth. She, in returns, comes back angrier.

Both should just simmer down and forget the angry remarks made by each other. At the end of the day, is any of this going to matter?

Running Bear

02-20-2009, 09:29 AM

...Having said that, Willynilly, you could do much to educate people here about your condition with some links that are understandable to the non-medical reader.
Willynilly may have a medical condition but why should he feel the need to explain this. This is a naturist forum and not a medical forum. He appears on this forum to debate naturism not lecture on medicine. Respect his privacy.
General comment:
I would accept that his bitches ending was uncalled for but in no way does that condone disrespect from us. To state that we found his last remark offensive would be constructive to attack him is not what I perceive tolerance is all about.

Running Bear

02-20-2009, 09:53 AM

Journeyman

02-20-2009, 10:57 AM

Willynilly may have a medical condition but why should he feel the need to explain this. This is a naturist forum and not a medical forum. He appears on this forum to debate naturism not lecture on medicine. Respect his privacy.

Easy, Running Bare. It was just a suggestion, that's all. And these forums are about many things, not just naturism.

Journeyman

02-20-2009, 10:59 AM

I would accept that his bitches ending was uncalled for but in no way does that condone disrespect from us. To state that we found his last remark offensive would be constructive to attack him is not what I perceive tolerance is all about.

I did *not* make reference to his 'bitches' comment at all, so I assume you are talking to someone else here, although your whole note was addressed to me.

MoonShadow

02-20-2009, 11:55 AM

Moonriver, I doubt it can be defused but we will try (reviewed post 12 here).
It is unacceptable to laugh at a man with a small penis.
I can understand the subsequent anger.
I am also very angry with this initial remark because it has the capacity to do so much harm.

Yes, I completely know where you are coming from. It is totally unacceptable to make such remarks as well as lashing back in print. But maybe the anger for both parties will subside. We can hope.

Running Bear

02-20-2009, 09:43 PM

Easy, Running Bare. It was just a suggestion, that's all. And these forums are about many things, not just naturism.
Just reflection and again only a suggestion. I just did not want anybody to feel they have to explain personal details in order to be on here.

And regarding your other posting I replied to a quote from you, yes. But the second paragraph was a general comment but I will edit that and make it clearer. Sorry.

walter05

02-22-2009, 08:43 AM

I have seen loving responses to husbands whose wives have had breast surgery and are afraid to go to a nudist resort.

I have seen loving responses to men who only have one testicle.

The most noble aspect to nudism is the idea of body acceptance. The idea that others can se someone's nude body and not think obscene thoughts or focus on what is wrong.

You are refusing to acknowledge that you and your friends laughing at someone else's body is rude and disgusting. Laughing at someone else's body can cause the person a great deal of embarrassment and anguish. You and your friends appear to be insensitive to that.

Please don't worry about not being with me. The feeling is mutual.

If you are not aware that your words were cruel and hurtful and can't admit that the sentiments you expressed were cruel, then you have a major character flaw. Loving, compassionate human beings attempt to comfort people and help then face theif frailties. Cruel and inhuman beings take advantage of those frailties to cause pain.

If a man were standing there with a small penis, and you and your friends laugh at him, that is likely to cause him a great deal of pain and hurt. If you and your frinds find that so funny that you can't understand the hurt that is caused, then you are a very cold person.

Even a year later, when the cruelty of your words are pointed out, if you can acknowledge the pain you would cause and apologize, it would reinforce the idea that you are a warm and compassionate human being.

Instead your appear to be merely defensive and cruel.

Boreas

02-22-2009, 06:30 PM

I decided to do some editing in here. I apologize to those who were trying to maintain some civility. It is too bad that some comments were made in the manner that they were. Flying in with drive by insults is not acceptable. :disappointed:

Now, back to our regularly schedulled programming......(what was the topic again? Oh ya)

It always amazes me that men put so much importance on the size of their penises. I guess women can be accused of the same sort of thing, when we focus on our breasts or butts or whatever. Frankly, I feel more comfortable among my nudist friends sometimes, because they see beyond my big butt, or flabby thighs. It is so nice to be able to be comfortable being nude with friends with no ulterior motives, or whatever.

Whoever started this thread, I hope you are able to get to some social nude events so you can see that people really do not care about the size of your penis, because penises come in all shapes and sizes.

Boreas

02-22-2009, 08:39 PM

ohh Censorship...I never see a forum like this....

people (with inferiority complex) insulting are tolerated and protected by moderators.

So good job...but what I can say,it's disgusting.

If you have a concern about a particular post feel free to report it. :)

lewisis

02-22-2009, 08:57 PM

Running Bear

02-22-2009, 11:14 PM

What a shame we are now subject to overzealous moderating :-( Although carried out with the best intentions, this form of censorship will ensure that said offensive opinions will continue. The only way to change opinions is by debate and indicating that this form of opinion held is unacceptable to many.

I respect Astaroth's right to an opinion just as much as my own. The ability to define those opinions as unacceptable or acceptable has been effectively murdered.

I accept the moderators decisions but am disappointed that it shows a lack of respect to all and destroys this boards intention of debate :-( We should not destroy debate just because we do not agree with certain opinions.

MoonShadow

02-23-2009, 06:40 AM

Astaroth was not debating anyone. She was shouting people down while at the same time sharing how much fun her friends and her had laughing at a small penis. I found her comments rude, crude, and unacceptable on a public forum. This was her intent to begin with.

I surely would not have put up with such comments in a face-to-face so would definitely not put up with her cruel comments on a public forum. But she was not alone as another poster came back and called her friends and basically her, bitches. Another rude, crude, and unacceptable comment.

Regardless of what others were trying to convey to her, she was not listening/reading and it only escalated her crudeness as you have seen with her censorship comment.

I agree with the editing. Thank you, Boreas

walter05

02-23-2009, 07:38 AM

I was one of the ones she may have been shouting down.

For whatever reason, some men are embarrassed by their penis sizes. They are particularly afraid of it being seen in public.

This forum demonstrated how civilized people react if someone says something.

I think many of them may have actually found this reassuring.

We found out that if someone says something rude about someone else's body, others will respond forcefully. I think that is good for people to know.

I understand what you are attempting to do and believe it is noble. I am not sure I agree tactically with it.

Running Bear

02-23-2009, 09:53 PM

A. has effectively 'gotten away with it'. Because her comments have been deleted (as well as the response) nobody will be able to judge that her comments were unacceptable. The debate was on the willingness to accept these comments or object to them It was not an attempt to change A.'s opinion.

This debate has been valuable because it has demonstrated to people who feel they may be party to ridicule that they do have friends that will stand up and defend them.

This is a story from the yogic tradition which demonstrates our bodies are the result of our passage through life. The scars we should wear with pride because they show we have lived. Anybody with a disfigurement should not try to deny it. Most normal people will accept them for the person inside while only the superficial people will judge them from the outside.

Are the trees in the forest all strait and tall? No! Each tree has its own pain, its own agony. Each one is twisted and gnarled in some way; distorted by circumstances, twisted, cut-down, attacked by lightening, its bark torn and stripped by animals.
A tree does not grow without pain and suffering, but it grows to great majesty because it has taken its pain and allowed the whole process to take place without denying it.

Fresh Air

02-27-2009, 09:45 PM

Unfortunately, untrue. Many of "they" notice and have either laughed or made snide remarks as an individual in this state walks by or hears behind his back. There are plenty of posts to prove this point. I have personally both heard and witnessed it often. Hopefully "they" (mostly women) still represent a very small number overall. Yet, it is true, that in the final analyasis, it is about the man himself; both inside and out.

Either way, there is no "they", only "you".

We are not the summation of the opinions of others. That is not our existence (or it shouldn't be). If someone else has a problem with another, then the problem they have is really one with themselves. No "them" only "us".

To feel self-conscious is a reflection of the self and where worth of self is found, not in anything else. To believe that we are self-conscious because of what someone else thinks of us is just a nonsense cop out. Playing into that kind of mentality is ridiculous, IMO. It is completely a personal choice, nothing else. So, blame can only be placed on the individual with doubt and low self-esteem, because the self image is a personal choice. They choose to believe others rather than themselves. We are NOT the summation of others opinions of us, unless we choose to be.

If you wish it to be, there is no "they", only "you".

Home Nudist

02-28-2009, 02:01 PM

Either way, there is no "they", only "you".

We are not the summation of the opinions of others. That is not our existence (or it shouldn't be). If someone else has a problem with another, then the problem they have is really one with themselves. No "them" only "us".

To feel self-conscious is a reflection of the self and where worth of self is found, not in anything else. To believe that we are self-conscious because of what someone else thinks of us is just a nonsense cop out. Playing into that kind of mentality is ridiculous, IMO. It is completely a personal choice, nothing else.

So, blame can only be placed on the individual with doubt and low self-esteem, because the self image is a personal choice. They choose to believe others rather than themselves. We are NOT the summation of others opinions of us, unless we choose to be.

If you wish it to be, there is no "they", only "you".

Words are easy.

I will agree that we ALLOW the opinions of others to influence us. But, with all due respect, you speak in unrealistic, lofty platitudes. Feelings aren't easy to control.

I'm willing to guess that you were never the fat kid in gym class who was taunted because his breasts were large and his penis was small, and looked even smaller because of supra pubic fat.

As insignificant as those things were to WHO I WAS, to MY BEING, let me tell you that taunts like that hurt, and the wounds run deep. Kids can be very cruel.

No one knows how a "fat" person yearns to look "normal." Every time I read these threads where it's said that no one cares, no one looks, no one notices, I wonder if the writer has been endowed with a pretty good all-around physique. (Easy for him to say.)

Or, as another cliche says, "Walk a mile in MY shoes."

To say that reactions to criticisms don't matter is to tell a person that his feelings aren't real and don't matter. Not true. As a Physician (as stated in your profile), you should know that. I was an RN for a while, and NOT to belittle a person's perceptions of his situation were one of the things we learned in the first semester.

I've been fat and I've been thin over the years. Now, I'm fat again (and trying to lose again). But, as I approach being a senior citizen, things matter less. I've grown to understand and accept myself. I'm now at the point where I could disrobe in a locker room setting and feel comfortable that you, as an adult, would accept my appearance, whatever it might be, and not "point and laugh," nudge your friends, or talk about me behind my back.

And, these are the things, I think, people with body image issues fear. And, it's very hard to convince them that these things don't go on.

PS - As to why I am a "Home" Nudist, that has less to do with body shame and modesty, and more to do with the fact that I am not a very social person. I don't look for places to go and things to do clothed. So, I hardly have the inclination to do so nude.

tiger79

02-28-2009, 06:30 PM

Words are easy.

I will agree that we ALLOW the opinions of others to influence us. But, with all due respect, you speak in unrealistic, lofty platitudes. Feelings aren't easy to control.I've stayed out of this thread so far. Sure, feelings aren't easy to control. I'm small, and I have a significant scar patch on my penis. For more years than I care to remember, I shied away from any sort of public exposure. Gradually, I progressed to skinny-dipping on deserted beaches. About 5 years ago, I summoned the courage to book myself into a naturist resort for a vacation. I confess I was very nervous. To my astonishment, no-one pointed and laughed. I had a great time; a truly liberating great time. Now, my wife and I actively seek out naturist destinations for our vacations. We've met some really lovely people (some of whom are posters here - you know who you are, and we thank you for your friendship) and maintain our friendships through emails as well as coordinating our visits to favourite resorts. Hindsight's a wonderful thing, but if I'd known 30 years ago what I know now, I'd have been hitting the nude beaches way back then, with not a care in the world.

roid3551

04-08-2009, 01:31 PM

Nobody will ever think anything. size is only measured in sexual situations and the whole idea of nudism is to look beyond that. there is every size and every one is equally treated.

DJ Leo

05-04-2009, 05:43 PM

indeed this is very difficult to talk about, and certainly a forum such as this might harbor persons with less then good intentions who might be fond of making fun of the ill equiped....be that as it may i am willing this one time to stick my penis out to get stepped on..so to speak.......so here goes.....i admit with some level of embarrassment to having a 5 inch penis...go ahead, laugh.....fortunately some women like it that wide..:)

You may have a five inch penis, this is normal compared to mine. I was born with what is known as micropenis. I am not ashamed of what God has given me. I also can not understand why someone would laugh or make nonsense jestors at someones manhood. That is just plain childish, and they should be ashamed of themselves for it, JMHO:disappointed:

Pumpkinpie

05-04-2009, 06:37 PM

It is not a nice thing to laugh or make fun of any mans manhood just as long as they can function and satisfy their partner,same goes for men I have seen and heard guys talk about women breasts and butts that pissed me off to and I had to give them my opinion and ask them to apologize to them, everyone have feelings and it hurts really bad beauty is in the eyes of the beholder and we are all beautiful people inside out no matter what size,shape, color, we are all beautiful in gods eyes and we should be like that with each other.

emsdude

05-05-2009, 04:26 AM

Who cares what you have. Being nude is a beautiful thing and being with over is even better. Your free of what the world thinks, and how the good lord has made us all. I think his handy work the best. When he made you he did not care how thing would look on you. So be nude and enjoy the freedom you have.

bareman58

05-07-2009, 03:30 PM

You should not care at all what some self-centered idiot with no heart thinks of your manhood.We are all created equally in God's eyes.I say do what you will..
have fun with your self,your friends and your penis...never be ashamed of what God has given you.Take care,my friend.:)

Smiley

05-08-2009, 06:06 AM

As was said earlier "walk a mile in someone else's shoes", the best part of it is you A) have another pair of shoes and B) you're a mile away from 'em:laugh:

All joking aside, once a person is comfortable in their own skin they usually don't put much mind to what others think of their appearance. The human form comes in all sizes, colors and shapes. What is normal or average? I read somewhere the average penis erect is around 5" and the average flaccid length is around 2 1/2". This just means that about half are larger and half are smaller. I believe the average height of a male is around 5' 8". About half the men are taller and half are shorter. Does being taller or shorter than average bother anyone? So why should penis length be such a big question? Does anyone worry about being taller or shorter than average? Not much ya can do about it, same with penis length. You is what you is and that's it. No sense in obsessing about any of it. .

FreeinNJ

05-08-2009, 06:11 AM

can we kill this topic finally , WAY too much talk for a question with a simple answer

eagle59

05-08-2009, 06:47 AM

really, the only thing that matters is this: Does what you have work? If you can pee and keep your partner happy that is all that really matters. end of discussion, case closed!

Baretodabone

05-08-2009, 09:20 AM

I've read a good portion of this thread and finally decided to make a post. I am one of those men who was born less than well endowed, with a slight deformity that has been surgically corrected. And for many years was concerned about how I looked and somewhat envious of the men with more "perfect" equipment. I've come to realize that in the end, the male genitalia is primarily and foremost a gender indicator.. if you have a penis, you are a male. If you are over the age of majority, you are a man regardless of orientation and all such. Urination and sexual activities are secondary purposes and if as eagle59 said it works for all those purposes, it's serving its purposes. Focus on life, not what life has dealt.

David77

05-08-2009, 10:21 AM

If you have a smaller penis, you need to buy a smaller size condom so that it won't slip off, as one size may not fit all. There is nothing dishonorable in being a smaller size man in any part of the anatomy.

Fresh Air

07-09-2009, 06:40 AM

Words are easy.

I will agree that we ALLOW the opinions of others to influence us. But, with all due respect, you speak in unrealistic, lofty platitudes. Feelings aren't easy to control.

I'm willing to guess that you were never the fat kid in gym class who was taunted because his breasts were large and his penis was small, and looked even smaller because of supra pubic fat.

As insignificant as those things were to WHO I WAS, to MY BEING, let me tell you that taunts like that hurt, and the wounds run deep. Kids can be very cruel.

No one knows how a "fat" person yearns to look "normal." Every time I read these threads where it's said that no one cares, no one looks, no one notices, I wonder if the writer has been endowed with a pretty good all-around physique. (Easy for him to say.)

Or, as another cliche says, "Walk a mile in MY shoes."

To say that reactions to criticisms don't matter is to tell a person that his feelings aren't real and don't matter. Not true. As a Physician (as stated in your profile), you should know that. I was an RN for a while, and NOT to belittle a person's perceptions of his situation were one of the things we learned in the first semester.

I've been fat and I've been thin over the years. Now, I'm fat again (and trying to lose again). But, as I approach being a senior citizen, things matter less. I've grown to understand and accept myself. I'm now at the point where I could disrobe in a locker room setting and feel comfortable that you, as an adult, would accept my appearance, whatever it might be, and not "point and laugh," nudge your friends, or talk about me behind my back.

And, these are the things, I think, people with body image issues fear. And, it's very hard to convince them that these things don't go on.

PS - As to why I am a "Home" Nudist, that has less to do with body shame and modesty, and more to do with the fact that I am not a very social person. I don't look for places to go and things to do clothed. So, I hardly have the inclination to do so nude.

We can live in the bondage of our own distorted perspectives or we can learn new perspective. Empowering someone to think incorrectly about themselves is not 'good medicine'. Feelings matter, but distorted feelings should not be reinforced by making such the center of the issue. Acknowledge it, reframe it, then move onto the real issues...