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NuTex
12-11-2003, 03:37 PM
Corkey and all,
I placed this here because I wasn't sure where would be best.

I was wondering if the member ratings are really positive or useful. Do they really add to the experience of using this forum or do they subtract?

IMHO, I see some potential problems. One that comes to mind concerns the fact that jerks sometimes join up (recently one went by a name that rhymed with "Dud"). A jerk could vote someone a 1 just to be, well, a jerk.

I want to say that I'm not saying I think they should be removed. I just think this deserves discussion.

I hope others would give their opinion on this.
NuTex

NuTex
12-11-2003, 03:37 PM
Corkey and all,
I placed this here because I wasn't sure where would be best.

I was wondering if the member ratings are really positive or useful. Do they really add to the experience of using this forum or do they subtract?

IMHO, I see some potential problems. One that comes to mind concerns the fact that jerks sometimes join up (recently one went by a name that rhymed with "Dud"). A jerk could vote someone a 1 just to be, well, a jerk.

I want to say that I'm not saying I think they should be removed. I just think this deserves discussion.

I hope others would give their opinion on this.
NuTex

greensunshine
12-11-2003, 06:58 PM
Actually one really effective way to deal with some of the "Jerks" who like to liven this BB up with their tricks is to report them to Corey and Aaron. Something I always attempt to do is copy the thread they post along with my complaint.

Greensunshine in the Pacific NW /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Baron Lake
12-11-2003, 08:17 PM
NuTex,
You are certainly not the only one who views the "star" system with some skepticism as to its relevance; not to mention its "accuracy". Absent any objective standard of evaluation anything goes. OTOH, I guess it gives us something to talk about until the drugs kick in. (Claritin, just Claritin. Honest! I live in the San Joaquin valley, Allergy Capital of the West. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif )
b.l.

NudeAl
12-12-2003, 12:45 PM
I tend to agree. I think that the system is over rated. I used to be a little upset that I wasn't rated that highly but I could care less now. I have seen some who are rated rather highly post some really obnoxios posts. I would rather we all only had our membership dates or something like that. But honestly, it is not a big deal to me anymore.

hw
12-12-2003, 03:29 PM
You can always opt to not allow ratings on your profile, as Greensunshine and a few others have done. /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif
I always give everyone 5 stars when I rate them, except that one unfortunate time when I clicked on the wrong one. I couldn't change the rating, but I think that poster has since left the bb's.

I hope everyone has a ***** weekend! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

NuTex
12-12-2003, 04:17 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> You can always opt to not allow ratings on your profile, as Greensunshine and a few others have done. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>At first I had 5 stars and went "Yeah!" But when I went down to 4 I was disappointed. It was then that I got asked myself "what the &*%$# was I thinking?" These are meaningless. I almost decided to opt out but then I decided I wasn't going to let it get to me. So I choose to just ignore it.

But then I realized if I felt that way what about others? What concerns me the most are the feelings of young people. What if some jerk drops a young person rating just to be mean? How might that make her or him feel? And many young people are rather sensitive to the opinion of others.
NuTex

nudeM
12-12-2003, 05:57 PM
I have been posting since March of 2002 and only 11 people have given me stars, which I am still stuck with only 4. I used to think that the ratings were given by the administrators, but quickly found out they were given by the members. It used to bother me, but I have since came to the conclusion that we all can't be perfect "5-stars" /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif .

Seriously, to me, it doesn't mean a thing, other than the fact, it gives others another feature to play with. I believe that everyone deserves stars for being able to debate, within reason, about topics concerning nudists, either pro or con, as we have all seen. Kind of gives everyone an idea on how we are all different, and how many are all on the same track. Afterall, that is what keeps these forums going.

hw
12-12-2003, 07:10 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by NuTex:
What concerns me the most are the feelings of young people. What if some jerk drops a young person rating just to be mean? How might that make her or him feel? And many young people are rather sensitive to the opinion of others.
NuTex [/QB] <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>NuTex...We have no control over the jerks that come here. What we can do is be ever vigilant and report things we do not like to Corky, Bart, and Corey. We can always use the PM feature to ask how things are going for the younger people. (If they choose to use that feature.)

BTW...I gave you 5*****'s....feel better now? /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

12-12-2003, 09:27 PM
All the stars mean is who we agree with and who we don't. The more people agree with someone, the more stars he/she gets. The less people agree with someone, the less stars he/she gets. It's a popularity contest.

missouriboy
12-12-2003, 11:35 PM
Jon, that can only be your opinion, since it can't be universally true. For myself, I considered friendliness and depth of thought, and not at all whether I agreed.

But your post does point up one important fact: there is NO uniform test for awarding stars, which tends to make them pointless. Therefore I quit fooling with them long ago.

12-13-2003, 03:32 AM
Missouriboy,

Pretty much everything I say or write is just my way of seeing things. I don't claim to know the answers. However, like everyone else I enjoy expressing my thoughts.

sawdust
12-13-2003, 11:02 AM
...is just my way of seeing things. I don't claim to know the answers.

I think your statement is pretty much typical of all the people responding to this site. Why then should anyone else sit in judgement of that opinion with the existing star point system. As another poster said, "It is just a big popularity contest". It's only function, as I see it, is to allow those with mean spirits, to get in a final slap if they don't agree with you. /infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif This seems contrary to the policy of free speech, which should include the additional policy of "no retaliation." /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Just thought you would like to know. Sawdust

Bob S.
12-13-2003, 09:38 PM
I wonder how many people actually give stars. I found it ridiculous and have never rated anyone. I also do not care what my rating is. I also do not understand what the point of the number of posts each person has. Other than watching the number hit those milestones such as 100, 200, 1,000... there is no real reason to have them.

Bob S.

12-13-2003, 10:21 PM
I tried to give someone a fifth star once, but he didn't receive it. It says in my profile that I gave it to him, but he still has only four.

12-14-2003, 03:51 AM
I think it averages out the total of all star ratings given so if you only gave one star you actually brought their average down and could have caused them to lose a star.

Did you not wonder why you could give from one to five stars?

Croydon
12-14-2003, 04:47 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by cyndiann:
I think it averages out the total of all star ratings given so if you only gave one star you actually brought their average down and could have caused them to lose a star.

Did you not wonder why you could give from one to five stars? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>The ratings is just a popularity contest. It is all about who likes you and who don't. Those who may say something great and truthful will not receive pts that they deserve b/c there will always be people who do not like you. For ex: Cynd normally have truthful and honest postings but many ppl are offended by what she says, despite the fact that her statement is truthful. Instead of awarding her pts for a good positive statement, ppl will just give her a low rating b/c they don't like Cyn. Rather thinking critically about the statement, ppl will just get offended or hold a grudge agaist her for past comments she has made.

Sorry mentioning you but you were only person here that could serve as perfect example

12-14-2003, 05:21 AM
Well I totally agree with you on that. Some people
"just can't handle the truth" to borrow a phrase from the movies.

I need to show a few what a strawman argument is. Not that they will listen with an open mind.

I just hid my stars and don't pay attention much to it. On another website those who contribute to it have their names in green. I feel it is just another way to make some feel better than the others.

I don't have any rating system on my sites and won't.

Rik
12-14-2003, 06:00 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by cyndiann:
I just hid my stars and don't pay attention much to it. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Well Cyndiann, as it's nearly Chrstmas and I'm feeling generous I'm gonna give you five stars whether you like it or not!

http://www.clothesfree.com/personals/cyndiann-avatar.jpg
http://www.clothesfree.com/ubb/user_ratings_5.gif

There!

Rik

12-14-2003, 08:28 AM
Hahahaha!

Merry Christmas to you too Rik!

http://www.mynudelife.com/bellsanta.gif

Bartamus
12-14-2003, 08:56 AM
Well I guess it's time for the administrators to chime in on this one.
First off the "star system" was something we designed as a means of rewarding forum contributors who A) introduced the most interesting topics. B) made the most lucid
arguments without attacking others C) Did the most to advance the positive attributes of naturism
It's not a popularity contest. We earnestly hope you all grade others based on those criteria.

As for abusive posts from those who have no other agenda than to attack, HW is right. Report it to us and we'll deal with it.

We like keeping a count on all the individual
posts from people. It gives us a way to measure how active the forum is. We intend to keep both systems in place.