Questions concerning admittance of single males

[Falcon46]

As a single male in my 40’s, and new to this forum and public rec. naturism, I curious about the process of how single males gain acceptance into clubs and resorts. I understand the many reasons behind limiting the number of single males… I’m just hoping this isn’t a lost cause. I’ve spent a lot of time researching through the posts here but haven’t run across these specific questions. And up front I’d like to apologize to everyone if this is a “rehashed” or "dead horse" issue (as I’ve recently read about in other posts). I don’t have the time or the inclination to read through tens of thousands of posts from over the last 2 years, so please bare with me.

First and foremost question about getting into a club is: Is there typically a screening process to weed out the undesirable element commonly associated with single males? (I personally would hope so in order to maintain the safety and considerations for others.)

It’s a given on how gender balancing is achieved (assuming it really exists at some clubs that make such claims), but how is it maintained? Are there exceptions?

After reading though several hundred posts, probably approaching 1000… I’m curious if balancing is really the issue, or is this a result of the existing family members just not wanting single males regardless of their honorable intentions, maybe a combination?

It’s not easy to miss the attitude of some that someone like me wouldn’t be welcome (even though they may be assuming just who someone like me really is), I’m just curious if this is a prevailing attitude? Is there at least an attempt to get to know an individual prior to making judgement? Should I just not bother?

I welcome any valid input to these perhaps “tough” questions. If you’d rather not post publicly, then I welcome private messages as well, as long as they relate to the questions at hand.

Cheers

[Falcon46]

As a single male in my 40’s, and new to this forum and public rec. naturism, I curious about the process of how single males gain acceptance into clubs and resorts. I understand the many reasons behind limiting the number of single males… I’m just hoping this isn’t a lost cause. I’ve spent a lot of time researching through the posts here but haven’t run across these specific questions. And up front I’d like to apologize to everyone if this is a “rehashed” or "dead horse" issue (as I’ve recently read about in other posts). I don’t have the time or the inclination to read through tens of thousands of posts from over the last 2 years, so please bare with me.

First and foremost question about getting into a club is: Is there typically a screening process to weed out the undesirable element commonly associated with single males? (I personally would hope so in order to maintain the safety and considerations for others.)

It’s a given on how gender balancing is achieved (assuming it really exists at some clubs that make such claims), but how is it maintained? Are there exceptions?

After reading though several hundred posts, probably approaching 1000… I’m curious if balancing is really the issue, or is this a result of the existing family members just not wanting single males regardless of their honorable intentions, maybe a combination?

It’s not easy to miss the attitude of some that someone like me wouldn’t be welcome (even though they may be assuming just who someone like me really is), I’m just curious if this is a prevailing attitude? Is there at least an attempt to get to know an individual prior to making judgement? Should I just not bother?

I welcome any valid input to these perhaps “tough” questions. If you’d rather not post publicly, then I welcome private messages as well, as long as they relate to the questions at hand.

Cheers

This subject has come up many times, and nothing ever gets accomplished except that people get to express their opinions.

The only undesirable people are men who go alone to nudist places. It doesn't matter whether he's never been married, divorced, widowed or a married man going alone because his wife won't go. I'm one of the divorced ones with children and grandchildren. However, we are all lumped into one catagory--we are NOT trusted. Having a woman with him somehow magically turns an untrustworthy man, single or married, into one who can be trusted. After all, every knows that a man who is married and brings his wife can be trusted. /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[Naturist Mark]

Every club is going to have its own specific rules and ways of enforcing them (or not). With that caveat, here goes:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> First and foremost question about getting into a club is: Is there typically a screening process to weed out the undesirable element commonly associated with single males? (I personally would hope so in order to maintain the safety and considerations for others.) <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Usually you call the club and they find out a little about you, mainly whether you've ever been to a nudist club event before and whether you know what to expect. If you are a member of another club or a national organization (AANR, TNS) that is usually all they need to know. Otherwise they will probably try to get a feel for why you are interested in attending.

One club that I deal with does it all by email. All interested parties (not just single males)are sent a introduction letter that tells about the club, nudist etiquette, and makes it clear that they will be severely disappointed if they are interested in swinging or expect to meet eligible naked women. Nudist clubs are just about the worst place there is to find a date. A surprising number of people never return email to make a reservation.

Some clubs will have sex offender check done.

Most rely on observation. As private groups they are free to eject someone who gives a bad vibe, and certainly anyone who misbehaves.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> It?s a given on how gender balancing is achieved (assuming it really exists at some clubs that make such claims), but how is it maintained? Are there exceptions? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>There are many variations of gender balancing. I am a member of two non-landed clubs. One has no quota or balancing policy.

The other has a 20% quota on single members in the club of either sex. However there is no quota on attendance at club events.

One resort I frequent allows single visitors of either sex, but asks that on future visits you try to bring along a person of the opposite gender. To my knowledge there is no enforcement of this.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> After reading though several hundred posts, probably approaching 1000? I?m curious if balancing is really the issue, or is this a result of the existing family members just not wanting single males regardless of their honorable intentions, maybe a combination?
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I think there are two main issues: 1) that some women will feel vulnerable if vastly outnumbered by men. 2) That some men feel it is too gay to be in a overwhelmingly male group of nude people. Fear and homophobia.

Reason 2 is silly, but unfortunately the fears expressed in reason 1 cannot be dismissed out of hand. Well founded fears or not, women will not willingly flock to a situation that makes them feel uneasy or vulnerable.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> It?s not easy to miss the attitude of some that someone like me wouldn?t be welcome (even though they may be assuming just who someone like me really is), I?m just curious if this is a prevailing attitude? Is there at least an attempt to get to know an individual prior to making judgement? Should I just not bother?
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Bother. I don't think it is the prevailing attitude that single men are unwelcome (not everywhere). There is a extra measure of precaution with respect to single men, and some places just don't bother to weed out the bad from the rest, but I don't think that is the case with most.

Not a comprehensive answer, and limited to my experience, but I hope some of this is helpful.

-Mark

[Falcon46]

Mark...
Well it sure looked like a fairly comprehensive answer to me, and thank you very much for taking the time! /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif It's very much appreciated. And thank you Jon-Marc.

A little straight information goes a long way.

[David77]

Falcon46,
A very good reference as to the "Singles Friendly" clubs in the USA is as follows;

http://www.netnude.com/main/info/states/sfriend.html

I have become a single, and some resorts will accept me without a female and some will not, but since I know from experience that there are resorts who do accept a single man without a female along, there is no need for despair!

Please join AANR (American Association for Nude Recreation) or TNS (The Naturist Society) as this helps to be admitted. I suppose one advantage is that the admitting personnel can, if they wish, check the association registration number to see if a person is still in good standing, having had no other resort filing complaint.

I'm so very glad that your first visit to a nudist resort was a positive experience for you.

[Kenny G]

Falcon46, the best advice I can give is to call the club or resort to plan a meeting with a member of management, that way you'll get one to one conversationwith the people who have the answers. Sometimes, (not always) depending on how you plead your case, they may be willing to bend some rules, maybe with stipulations. I'd also suggest trying visitation on off peak days initially, (if possible) to give some of the regulars a chance to know you. Making friends on the inside, may carry some weight and keep you from being on the outside. I don't really agree with the gender balance issue, but it's something we'll have to deal with. By the way, welcome aboard. Trust me, social nude recreation will change your outlook on life, it did mine. /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

[Falcon46]

David... I looked over the site you suggested and it's an excellent resource! Thanks loads!

I admit that the more posts I read overall, the more I felt some discouragement slipping in. I'm beginning to see that my concerns were less founded.

Thanks to everyone thus far... it's been a huge help!

[David77]

Falcon46,
I see that you are from southwest Ohio.
Last summer I was 10 miles from the southwest Ohio boarder, at Richmond Indiana, attending the annual Midwest Sunbathing Association meeting at the nudist resort there.

It was hot weather then, so later I drove from Richmond to my favorite nudist resort, Turtle Lake Resort in southern Michigan, at Union City Michigan. It did not seem like a long drive. I strongly suggest that you drive there this summer. They certainly accept singles. It is a large resort with a lake with a very nice beach. They also have a nice indoor pool and large clubhouse, etc. Their web site is;

http://www.turtle-lake.com

Lake O' The Woods at Valparaiso Indiana also accepts lone singles.

I have not been to any nudist resorts in Ohio, so I am sorry that I can not tell you about them.

Here is a web site giving some information on clubs/resorts both by your zip code, as well as by the name of the various states.

http://www.NudistparksUSA.NET

[Falcon46]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Kenny G:
Trust me, social nude recreation will change your outlook on life, it did mine. /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Kenny, the reasons I'm moving forward in this are very much in-line with your statement.

1) I don't have a problem being nude, even though it has been limited to private surroundings.

2) I like having an all-over tan.

3) I am looking to point my life in a different direction (give myself a new outlook) and meet others that I can share this interest with.

4) Which is actually related to #3, I am looking to change my self-image (for the better of course). I don't know if anyone else has experienced this, but I can't help but feel that if I am in surroundings where my body is not hidden by clothes, I'll make a more concentrated effort to drop this extra 30 lbs. Not that I worry what others will think, but for my own good and health reasons. (ok... maybe I am a little self-conscience about my appearance /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif ) Guess I'll have to wait and see on this one, huh? Seems logical though...

[Texasboy]

Falcon46

I'm a single male living in SW Ohio and I am a member of Paradise Gardens, which is in the Cincinnati area. I became a member last year and have been made very welcome there. The resort does have a quota on single males that visit on a daily basis. Paradise Gardens has made several improvements over the last year and is well worth a visit to see first hand.

[NUDE RICK]

Falcon 46,

Being a member of INA helped me get into a resort in Ca. w/o my wife (with her knowledge). Almost the same problem as being single.
I was refused admission until I showed my card. Hope this info helps.

Nude Rick /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

[Falcon46]

Thanks for the advice Rick. I applied to AANR yesterday and hope that will do just as well since most of the clubs around here are affiliated with them.

That does raise an interesting question though... At least here in the states, is membership to either INA or AANR looked upon equally among clubs? Just curious...

This entire thread has been VERY helpful for me and I hope others are getting something out of it as well.

I mentioned something about my interest in going to naturist clubs to a female aquaintence, and to my surprise she is actually leaning toward going with me sometime. While she is leaning, she is still teetering as well... but if she doesn't go, it's good that going by myself won't be as big of an issue.

[David77]

Falcon46,
Please view the PM I sent to you. Thanks.