Pleas

[kemil]

I wonted passwodr for phicters gallery, if any wont to send my pleas e-mail eim@mail.bg

[kemil]

I wonted passwodr for phicters gallery, if any wont to send my pleas e-mail eim@mail.bg

[Bob S.]

Well, if you want to see all of the pics on this site, simply join the INA (see theri front page for information on price and information). Netnude has a wide array of member pics that is free of charge. There are more naturist picture sites, but I don't know any of their addresses.

Any other types of pictures, especially from password-preotected sites, are called porn (at least soft core porn) and we are not that type of site. We discuss nudist/naturist issues, not trade in porn site passwords. So unless you have a nudist question or response, GET OUT!

Bob S.

[Rik]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bob S.:
Any other types of pictures, especially from password-preotected sites, are called porn ... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Hmm! clothesfree.com is a password protected site isn't it?

I guess some people might be wondering why it's necessary to hide perfectly innocent pictures behind a password which is accessible only by paying the purveyors of the photos a fistful of dollars.
/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

[dbickin]

A year or two ago, well before I joined up here, INA was discussed on another service, and was viewed with great suspicion as to why the pictures were hidden. The assumption was that INA was not a "real bona fide" naturist group, but possibly a soft core porn group pretending to be a naturist group. It didn't help that no one from that group could say that they had been to INA's headquarters to gauge the people in person.

David

[luvnaturism]

Wasn't it our very own deeply-appreciated /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Administrator who recently stated that he was viewed with coolness, if not suspicion, when he attended meetings of other groups?

The reason is that INA is doing things differently from other naturist organizations. One difference is that INA is posting lots of pictures. Another is that they're obviously supporting their organization by offering the pictures as a membership perk.

Another thread has been talking about ways to get more younger adults involved. My view is that there are huge generational differences today, so that the only way to reach younger adults is by putting leadership in the hands of younger adults.

INA is asserting leadership, and their choices will predictably offend some older people. I don't like all their choices (I think offshore lotteries that operate without supervision are a seriously bad idea), but I support the value of younger leadership.

And, lest my remark above be misunderstood, I will add that I was here at this forum in the days when it didn't have an ongoing administrative presence. That was a bad time. The guys are doing a great job. /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

[Rik]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by luvnaturism:
..they're obviously supporting their organization by offering the pictures as a membership perk. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Alternatively you could argue that they're inducing people to join with the promise of access to nude photos.

Or another option might be that offering photos to "members only" reduces the strain on the clothesfree.com servers.

Either way, if the purpose of the photos is to encourage people to become naturists then it seems unlikely that they would reach their target audience as presumably only those already converted to naturism would be likely to apply for membership of the INA unless of course they join simply to have access to the photos.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> The guys [administrators] are doing a great job. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I wholeheartedly agree and I'm sure they would welcome the opportunity to explain the INA's policy on "membership only" photos.

Rik

[Stewey]

What INA is doing as far as photos are concerned is really no different from any other nudist website with lots of pictures is doing. And quite frankly, if I looked hard & long enough, I'd most likely find all the member photos INA has on some other website for free. I personally would not pay for membership at ANY site, be it nudist, porn, or any other related site on the net, just to look at pictures. There's too much out there that's already free for me to do that. However, I would pay a membership fee to a site that I thought would use my money to help the cause of nudism, regardless if I get to see pics because of it. But honestly, there really isn't a whole lot out there that's worth my money.

As far as what the original poster to this topic has asked: No, no one in their right mind is going to give you a password for free that they paid money for, especially since they'd be responsible for anything you'd do or say using their password. And quite frankly, asking for someone's password just to see nude pics (or for any other reason, for that matter), is in incredibly bad taste.

[Rik]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dukhat:
What INA is doing as far as photos are concerned is really no different from any other nudist website with lots of pictures <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>And indeed they're doing the same as any porn site - hiding nude photos behind "paid for" passwords.

Rik

[Stewey]

Hi Rik,

Well, I never said that I agreed with that stipulation, just that I would never pay money just to see pics that I'd be able to find elsewhere for free.

However, I don't necessarily put INA in the same league as, say, www.pornforcash.com (http://www.pornforcash.com) (Don't bother clicking on that; I just made it up /infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif ). I don't see the administrators for that porn site actively talking with their members like how Corey, Corky, & Bart do. Nor would they take the time to create & maintain forums such as this one, which non-members can access. But if INA didn't offer anything to it's members, then why would the members give them any money? It's like the tabloids; don't blame the tabloid creators for selling their product, blame the bored, lonely women who buy them.

[Corky]

Unfortunately, in this life, everything costs money. If we took down the photos and videos, we would get no money to even have this forum or website at all. We would have no money to promote this great lifestyle. We take most of the photos and videos ourselves. We work very hard on the Nudes in the News webcast. It takes money and the 5,000 beautiful naturist photos, videos and news webcast present the lifestyle better than words and pays for the whole site. We have no pop-up ads and very little advertising on our site. We actively work on spreading the word about good nudity. Most of the people who work here happen to be under 30 and are bored with AANR or TNS and want to do it differently. We want to make a difference and grow.

The Nudist Casino is making some money but not a lot. We might take it down, but cutting off money that comes in without us doing anything and going towards a good cause makes us think maybe not.

I can't wait to meet more fellow members at our next events. (to be announced soon!)

Enjoy!

Corky Stanton
INA Staff - Webmaster
Always open to suggestions!

[Bartamus]

Thanks Dukhat. You stated it better than we could. The fact of the matter is there are other
naturist sites on the web where you must become
a member to view naturist photos. The main
difference between INA and those guys is..they
offer nothing else. We specifically designed our
site to help wanna be naturists and those already
in the lifestyle educate others and give people
a way to find nude venues near them and around
the world. As Corky mentioned, INA strongly
supports the work of the Naturist Action Committee and backs up that committment with
funding.
Yeah, INA offers a lot more than photos for a
price. We are working hard to open "traditional
nudism/naturism" to younger people and believe
me no one else is doing it.

[Rik]

I just knew there had to be a perfectly reasonable answer - thanks Corky and Bart. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Seriously I never, ever believed there was anything underhand or sleazy about INA. Its totally honest and forward thinking views are what have attracted me to this site and frankly we could do with a similar organization here in the UK to energize its somewhat lethargic (and ageing) naturist community.

Cheers.

Rik

[greensunshine]

To All Who Elect to Read My Comments Regarding the Topic of Sharing Passwords,

I personally believe that to share a password for any website is only inviting TROUBLE, and if I even remotely suspected someone did, I would refuse to refuse to share any (more) of my thoughts or viewpoints on whatever...including nudity...on that website.

So for those WHO ARE LOOKING for a cheap thrill, this is definitely NOT the website I would recommend doing it on...

This is another reason, that a lot of us females refuse to post our pics...

Sorry little boys and girls...if that is what you have in mind, is an easy and cheap way to get your thrills, move on /infopop/emoticons/icon_redface.gif because I can guarentee, others like myself will speak out /infopop/emoticons/icon_redface.gif

Thanks, all of you for speaking up in regards to this subject /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Greensunshine

From what I could figure out from all the misspelled words is that Kemil hopes someone will be foolish enough to give him their password so that he (a teen or child perhaps?) can look at the nude photos. This would be a big mistake since, if it is a minor from a non-nudist family, INA and those who run it could be in for a lawsuit from irate parents who consider ALL nude photos to be porn. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with the photos or that they would be in any way harmful to children. They're not because they're perfectly innocent photos of nudists enjoying the nudist lifestyle.


Of course, we who are members know that there is no porn in this website. However, when I was a child in the fifties I would have loved to be able to get on a computer had they existed and look at nude photos. My dad had some nudist magazines that I enjoyed looking at when he wasn't at home. They were innocent photos, but after all the people were NAKED, and that was all that mattered to me as a minor. He wasn't a nudist so why he had nudist magazines instead of porn magazines I don't know. However, those magazines got me hooked on seeing photos of naked women and got me into porn when those innocent photos got boring. This is similar to starting on smoking pot and graduating to harder stuff when the pot doesn't do it any more. Or when I started drinking, I starting on wine and graduated to vodka 100 proof and got wiped out of my mind.

Children who grow up in a nudist family will grow up with a healthy respect for the human body, but children from non-nudist families who are "protected" from the "harmful" nude bodies of others will possibly grow up wondering what it is that's being kept from them. Like Adam and Eve who felt God was keeping something good from them when He forbade then to eat of the one tree--so they ate of it.

Even though the photos are not porn, they are of nude people and should be seen only with a password to keep minors out whose parents would be VERY upset to find that 8-year-old junior is looking at what THEY consider to be porn, or at the very least indecent.

What you don't need or want is a lawsuit and the name of nudism dragged into court and connected with porn because of an irate parent who doesn't like his child looking at your innocent photos. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

[Bob S.]

I never had any intent to imply that INA was a porn site and am sure Rik was just being facetious in revealing my seemingly double meaning in my message. Oh Rik, you are such a laugh (read monotone with no emotion).

The INA offers much more than pictures, although the pics are a major attraction.

And BTW, my first "Playboy" was my father's National Geographic collection.

justBob

[Rik]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bob S.:
I never had any intent to imply that INA was a porn site and am sure Rik was just being facetious in revealing my seemingly double meaning in my message. Oh Rik, you are such a laugh (read monotone with no emotion). <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Monotone with no emotion? Moi? - it must be the way you read it. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Yes of course I was being facetious but there was also a serious point. You and I both know that the INA is an upstanding organization and does its level best to promote naturism in an open and honest way. That's because we're both naturists and can empathize with the approach the INA takes.

One of its aims is to attract more people to nudism and (to state the obvious) the only people it can attract are those that aren't already nudists. One of the main reasons why poeple aren't nudists is because they think there's something odd, secretive, perhaps even perverted about nudity and putting nudist photographs behind a password which can only be obtained for cash, might just confirm their view.

They might also challenge the INA to justify its position which, in my "facetious" way is what I did and I felt satsified with the answers from Bart and Corky - but then I never doubted their integrity for a moment. /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Rik

[Naked7]

I rarely participate in these conversations, but find this one especially interesting. My introduction to INA came about when I attempted to visit a nudist resort, having previously been a backyard, in-home nudist. I ws told I had to be a member of a national nudist organization. After joining INA, the resort refused to accept the organization as meeting their qualifications. I have enjoyed my membership nevertheless.

I have assumed that one of the reasons for limiting the hotos to members was to restrict access so that those submitting photos would know their pictures are not open to the general web browsing public. I have submitted a photo and am happy to have people who share my views look at my naked self, but don't care to have others do so. I do find it interesting, however, that some of the submitted pictures seem to be poses not necessarily designed to glorify a natural life style, but evoke other responses. On balance, however, I certainly enjoy many of the pictures.

I, too, have noticed that certain photos seem to be posed for an effect that perhaps doesn't show the true spirit of naturism, or maybe I'm just too sensitive. I've been accused of being that way. My screensaver is of INA photos, and one in particular I find very appealing. I don't usually find butts very interesting, but one young lady (I can't see her face so I assume she's young) has a very nice butt. The camera is pointed right at her backside as she's bent over, and even at my age I find that very sensual. Otherwise, as I said, there's nothing in the photos that could be called porn. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

[Bob S.]

No, no, no Rik. You misread my parenthetical statement. I was telling you to read the previous sentence, "Oh Rik, you are such a laugh" in monotone. What's next, a pronunciation guide to all commonly misread words?

read (reed), not read (red)

Oy, vey.

Bob S.

[ranul]

okay here is my pass word u r a id 10 t

[Rik]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bob S.:
read (reed), not read (red) <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>LOL. The English language eh? What a wonderful communication tool it is! /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Rik

[Frank R]

What surprises me is that no one has commented on the totally unethical aspect of this request. Regardless of how much (if any) money someone may have paid to obtain membership and a password, you do not have the right to share your password with anyone. That is one reason people who join are called "members" and not just password holders.

[michael simondet]

HEY GUYS, I HAVE BEEN A NUDIST SINCE THE MID 70S.I DID NOT KNOW OF SUCH GROUPS AS THIS. THE I.N.A. GIVES ME THE PROPER TOOLS I NEEDTO LIVE MY LIFE AS I AM NOW.THERE IS NO SOFT PORN HERE.JUST PHOTOS OF MY FAMILY.IF WE DID NOT NEED PASSWORDS IN HERE,JUST IMAGINE THE LUNACY THAT WOULD FOLLOW.WELL,HOPE TO SEE THE FAMILY OUT THERE SOON.

NUDE MIKE SILVER LAKE MINNESOTA