Would you want to live in a town where everyone shared your values.

[usmc1]

[usmc1]

This article recounts how the man who founded Dominos Pizza is developing a community in Florida with lease restriction built around Catholic moral teachings, no birth control, porn, abortion, x-rated cable, etc.

Putting aside, for the poll, the notion that most nudists would like to live in an all-nude community, please vote and explain your reasons for wanting, or not wanting, to live in a town where eveyone believed exactly as do you.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/03/02/catholic.town.ap/index.html

[l2ltlarry]

I had a friend who used to say, "If two people are thinking exactly alike, then obviously one of them isn't thinking." On the other hand, few of us would want to live where many people were hostile and or dismissive of our values. My real answer is, It depends, but since there are only two choices, I vote No.

[NudistGuy47]

I voted "no" to the poll question.

The why is simple to me. I enjoy being with people who are similar to me in some aspects. I like to share the common interests and the acitivities that the common interests bring. I also like sharing conversation with those who have differing views with my own. The discourse that ensues provides many opportunities to be engaged and to grow and learn. If we all heald the same views and attitudes, I would find the tie spent in public with this group to be less satistfying than I find life to be today when individual attitude and thoughts are welcome to be expressed and practiced.

Just MOHO (My Own Humble Opinion) http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/happy.gif

[shãybare]

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I also voted NO. I like diversity in life. I think it adds depth to relationships. It allows you to learn new things.

[Boreas]

No way! The one thing I liked about living in Toronto was the diversity of cultures and ideas. That makes a community more vibrant and interesting.

I am thinking that part of the problems in the world (US anyway?) is that people are hanging around only people who are likeminded a little too much. We have to have our views challenged and stretch from time to time.

[Sauna]

Absolutely no. That means one thinks and the others do as he wants. Horrible. I want use my own brains.

[usmc1]

No, for me too. No matter how many gas- guzzling, yellow-ribbon, flag-bedecked, icthus emblemed, SUV-driving, cell-phone addicted yahoos there are around me, life would be boring without having them around to flip off and sneer at.

I mean who else would there be to feel superior to?

[hm0504]

Interesting to read Governor Jeb Bush was at the town's ground-breaking ceremony. Now if only his brother in the White House would have the guts to legally declare all of America as a Christian fundamentalist nation, this sort of localized attempt wouldn't be needed.

[jon71]

The good news is that the courts will never allow fundy town to codify that nonsense into law. The bad news is that in a town full of rrr types the law will be routinely ignored.
As far as naturism it would be nice to be in a town where it is across the board optional whether to dress or not. Mandated would be overkill but universally permitted o.k.

[Bob S.]

It would depend on the values we are taling about. No one can find anyone who can share all of their values. In fact, each person places their values in a priority list, no two of which are the same.

I would like to live in a community that reflected my general valie system, even if it differed in some aspects. Can anyone here say they would choose to live in a town that reflects everything they feel is wrong with the world?

For all those who disagree with the Domino's Pizza town, who would like to go live there? After all, that is the epitome of diversity apart from what you believe.

The two options given me are too black and white. I enjoy diversity and those who do not hold my POV. Debating can be fun and so long as tolerance follows, I welcome all sides of an issue.

At the same time, I also value my friendships with those whom I can share my values with. That is why I am a member of a nudist park and come to nudist boards. It is why I attend Temple.

Seek those who share your values and welcome those who do not.

Bob S.

[Nudeinbama]

I voted no too, I like free thinking and have rarely foundanyone who shares all my veiws on most topic's. I wouldn't work for me.
Nudeinbama

[hm0504]

Looks like the 28% voting yes are not saying why. Why?

[Baron Lake]

There is the problem that the folks that think "exactly" as I do would never let me in; corollary with Groucho's refusing to join any club that would have him as a member.
b.l.

[Jason Lee]

I voted Yes and would love to eat Domino's Pizza in the nude.

[Tampanude]

I'd be bored silly

[fred950]

A whole town with people who think exactly the way I do??!!

Good Lord, the world isn't big enough for two of me!! http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/shocked.gif

[sw1sweendog]

i voted no,people should have whatever opinions or morales that they wish.i also would'nt want someone pushing thiers on me.kinda like the far right wackos are currently doing. http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/worried.gif

[Nude in the North]

I guess I'm not taking the question quite as literal as some of you.
The other people wouldn't have to THINK or ACT EXACTLY as I do. They would only have to share the same basic beliefs and values.

I picture it as a town with as much diversity as most towns already have. The difference being that in this town nudism is accepted as well as a general morality to only do what is good.

If it gets boring, you can always drive to the next town for a little change of pace.

Steve

[Swimguy]

I didn't vote, but I think people who share the same values do have differing opinions on a lot of things. I think we can come up with a broader definition of diversity than a lot of people on here have mentioned.

[Buff Man in MI]

Isn't that what Communism is all about? Or at least isn't that how Communism was portrayed as being all about during the Cold War? The part about government forcing people to all believe (or not believe) in the same thing, people giving up their rights to have an opinion that differed from the oligarchy.

Hmmm, good thing this is the 21st century, if they had tried it in the 1950's they'd all be hauled before Congressional hearings and blacklisted. Gov. Bush would probably have been tarred, feathered and run out of the state on a rail (or fed to the aligators deep in the Everglades).

Personally I have learned a lot more about myself and the world at large from people with different beliefs, backgrounds and cultures. I believe in the "melting pot". Each of us is better off, we complete each other, like a potluck dinner. Being without the diversity would be like only having one working leg, as long as you only wanted to walk in circles you'd be fine.

Specific to the idea of a Catholic community with no contraception, I think they used the wrong resident to home ratio. I calculated 1.8 people per home, using the numbers in the article. Unless they are planning for fifty year olds and up, in which case the pharmacies would spend much more time dusting off the contraceptive boxes than they would ringing up sales.

[Nude in the North]

I don't see any connection to Communism.
The Government isn't Forcing anyone to Change their views, or beliefs. In fact the Government doesn't have anything to do with it at all.

Remember the Pilgrims? They left England to start a colony where they could pratice their beliefs without influence from the King and Church.

The Mormons founded Salt Lake City for the same reason.

I don't see any real difference with what this man is attempting. Only people that choose to live there will be living there. Nobody's being forced to live there. Nobody is being asked to change their beliefs.

If he was building a Nudist Community we would all be Praising him.

Steve

[Trailscout]

I saw a television interview and the founders of this town said quite the opposite. They insist that the town will violate no state or national laws, and the community will be open to all who want to live there.

Nude in the North has a point about a nudist community. We would be all for that. If nudists from all across America decided to move to a certain county in Florida with beachfront, we could potentially move there in high enough numbers to take over county commission and make all beaches clothing optional in the county.

The opposite has certainly occured in San Diego years ago. Nudists were enjoying all of Black's Beach back in the 1970's until the city made it illegal. The portion of Blacks beach that remains was spared because it lies just outside the city.

[Trailscout]

Nudiarist,

The only thing I can figure is that these guys are talking out of both sides of their mouth. Saying one thing to people who want to hear what a nice Catholic community it will be and another to people who worry about trampling on civil liberties.

Ultimately I don't see how they can override Federal Law. I think it is just marketing hype and if their town gets off the ground it won't be that different from any other.

A more realistic scenario is like what happened in Antelope Oregon a few years back with the followers of the Bhagwan Shri Rashneesh. Tbey descended on that town in such numbers that they legally dominated the community and locals often felt compelled to move away to escape them. The guru's followers won local elections and passed all sorts of crazy laws that DID NOT violate federal law but still were very annoying and inconvenient to the native residents.

I heard about some community in Ontario that tried impose Islamic sharia law. Needless to say the non-muslims in that area took strong exception. I don't think Canada's federal government allowed sharia, but I am not sure.

[usmc1]

Here's a marvelous town in Vermount where I'd like to live. They want to impeach that little dry-drunk sociopath, Dubya!

http://www.newsday.com/news/politics/wire/sns-ap-vermon...p-politics-headlines (http://www.newsday.com/news/politics/wire/sns-ap-vermont-impeach-bush,0,5954020,print.story?coll=sns-ap-politics-headlines)

[Buff Man in MI]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Nude in the North:
I don't see any connection to Communism.
The Government isn't Forcing anyone to Change their views, or beliefs. In fact the Government doesn't have anything to do with it at all.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You are of course correct. If Governor Bush attended the ground-breaking ceremony, that's enough for me to believe that government is involved. In any case, I was writing sort of "tounge-in-cheek," simply because I am amazed at the number of things that were attempted by Nazis and the Communists, but when applied to the various branches of Christianity are today being portrayed as being good, wholesome and as part of some mythical set of "family values". (Additionally, I am doubly amazed at the number of WW 2 era folks, not to mention the number of 1960's radicals, who've let the wool be pulled over their eye's in some of those cases.)

You said we'd all be praising him if it was a Nudist Community. Some people might, that's true. How many would be praising him if it was a "White's Only" community, or "African-American's Only", or "Muslim's Only", or what have you? Suppose it was a Nudist Community (but you had to be under 40, under 200 pounds, 100% nude all the time?

(Sorry, I don't mean to direct all of this at you Steve. You made good points, I appreciate them. I'm in one of my *moods*. http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/angry.gif)

[herooftime8]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Nude in the North:
I guess I'm not taking the question quite as literal as some of you.
The other people wouldn't have to THINK or ACT EXACTLY as I do. They would only have to share the same basic beliefs and values.

I picture it as a town with as much diversity as most towns already have. The difference being that in this town nudism is accepted as well as a general morality to only do what is good.

If it gets boring, you can always drive to the next town for a little change of pace. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's the only reason why I'm voting "Yes."

If they were people exactly like me, I'd go nuts within a month. But we'd all love a nudist community, I do agree on that.

Besides, not many people who live in small towns stay there all the time. Sometimes they'll go to a larger city to go to the theatre or something. You'd most likely have to leave the town occasionally.

[Nude in the North]

"Suppose it was a Nudist Community (but you had to be under 40, under 200 pounds, 100% nude all the time?"

Then I suppose it would be a pretty Quiet town.

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[shãybare]

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My nude body says YES while my brain says NO.

[nacktman]

Afraid it would be so boring.

Where's the spark of life if everything is the same every day for your entire life?

[namedun]

I'm not sure it would be possible. I don't like people, and I don't really want to live in a conventional community.