ABC Good Morning America segment

[nekkidgene]

Did anyone watch the Good Morning America segment on Nude Youth Camp? Here's the link if anyone is interested:

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/GMA/Living/GMA030624NudistCamps.html

[nekkidgene]

Did anyone watch the Good Morning America segment on Nude Youth Camp? Here's the link if anyone is interested:

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/GMA/Living/GMA030624NudistCamps.html

[nudeM]

Not to hijack this thread, but has anyone listen to Bill O'Reillys' take on this? Just last evening, 6/24/03, his radio show focused on this very same subject. His view was shared by many of his listeners (callers), allowing kids to participate in sports, games, etc. in a nudist environment should not be allowed, because the activities are being held behind closed walls (private clubs).

Many of the callers called for nudists to be jailed, although Mr. O'Reilly didn't go that far. He did, in fact, support nudists in that if they choose to be nude at home or participate in nudist resorts, that is their choice, and there was nothing wrong with that. He just did not support allowing kids attend any nudist resorts alone, i.e., dropped off and picked-up later. He was basically in the same boat as Rep Foley, in that it is the kids COULD be allowed to be around pedophiles, even though the private club is a members-only group.

Since Rep. Foley began to insist that the Governor, Jeb Bush, look into this matter, I can't beleive how much headlines this subject has evolved. It made Good Morning America, Bill O'Reilly, two of the biggest influences that the media has to offer. The signals are mixed, but I would say, leaning a bit to the negative side. But it does show, how much an impact that the nudist movement has made over the past, say, five or so years.

Mr. O'Reilly had a number figure (can't remember the exact numbers) on how much the nudist organizations have grown. The numbers were somewhat amazing. Let's hear if for the people of INA, AANR (just to name a few), for their efforts in helping this movement proceed at a rapid pace. I applaud Mr. O'Reilly for his fair and balanced report on this subject, over the radio. As stated, he sides with the nudists to practice at home or among social groups, but he was against leaving the kids alone in a nudist environment. Who knows, maybe this might work out, but on the other hand, it could also hinder a popular event. Only time will tell. C'mon Floridans, make your congressman know your stance on this. Only you can make the difference. We, on the other hand, can only stand by the sidelines and watch.

nekkidgene: Sorry, but I hope I didn't hijack your post, but the subject matter was the same. Two different media organizations have brought this into light. After reading the attachment on Good Morning America, and after listening to Bill O'Reilly, I thought this would be the appropriate thread to tie the two subjects together, instead of starting another thread.

[Bob S.]

Well nudeM, if you hijacked it, I am your co-conspirator. And really, how can someone hijack a topic by introducing some comments about it? I went to a Florida TV News channel website, that of WFTV: http://www.wftv.com/news/2290836/detail.html

In that story, which is about the Florica teen camp, there is a poll in which, when I last saw, had only 34% (sad that I do say ONLY 34%) of the respondents (totalling over 10,000 I think) saying that it is bad and will lead to trouble. The other two choices, one saying that if parents want to send their children, they should be able to and the other saying that it is very positive received the rest of the votes. The very positive response received 50%, which in a three way race, is good, especially seeing how it is ahead by 16%.

Also, on the poll results page, there is a link to a message board which has a very comfortable majority, I'd say about 75-80% of those writing in being positive. And those who are pro-nudism were very calm and informative. Thise who were anti-nudism were emotional and just gave their own beliefs with nothing to back themselves up.

Pooped.

Bob S.

[Smoof]

Whoa nellie!
This quote I gleaned fron the "Good Morning" article is so typical of most of the "men of power"(read "Big brother") we have running our government which can let anyone (read "lawyers, siphon filters, or drains") make even the simplest most basic decision so complicated as to leagally make white black.

"Obviously I have no way of knowing whether illegal behavior is taking place in this camp, but the situation clearly raises legitimate issues that should be addressed given that it involves minor children," Foley, R-West Palm Beach, said in the letter.

Obviously he has no way of knowing anything but obviously he believes as an elected official that it should be his business to know nothing yet interfere with someone elses rights to privacy or to raise thier children according to thier own views just "in case" there might/could be a possibilty of something inappropriate to happen.
And this is the same govt. that decided that it was wrong for the Boy Scouts of America to ban known gay men from being scout leaders! Who in thier correct mind is going to "let a fox into a henhouse?" Since the BSA is a private organization(luckily) the govt. could not force them to do it but the govt. could stop all funding aid and encourage (or stongarm) other major agencies like the "United Way" to also retract thier funding.
Big brother can and does monitor our every phone and internet transmission, spoon feed us what they want us to know and hide what we "shouldn't know" in all the media. They monitor all the roads with cameras so they can track you everywhere you drive,and check this out, every cute new cell phone on the shelf has a GPS tracker built in to it (not to mention those annoying built in cameras you can add), they can photograph you skinnydipping in you own backyard from space, and if they deem so they can storm your house with guns drawn, confiscate everything you have including your kids and figure out why later on and wreck you financially to clear it up with no recourse upon themselves.
Whats next? The govt. needs to stick to issues of govt. and stay the "H" out of private lives. Some of this stuff is pure madness!
Sure, of course if children are running around in naked abandon then someone (but not everyone) should be watching and protecting them. I would just like to venture to say that if these children are watched and monitored as closely as I have been as a visitor in a nudist venue, then they are safer at a reputable club than they are in the public schools we are forced to send them to!

Sorry folks that I flamed a bit but these points are valid and some a bit upsetting to me.

G'day
Smoof

[nekkidgene]

To Bob S & nudeM,

I don't feel hijacked at all. Thanks for your additional news coverage tid-bits! I feel that naturism may gain good insight from this publicity to tweek (if you will) its organized structure to better deal with these issues. Pedaphilia is a serious matter in our country and if nudism can contribute to the healing of this condition then the more it will be applauded as a healthy lifestyle.

[Suntied]

"Sorry folks that I flamed a bit but these points are valid and some a bit upsetting to me.

G'day
Smoof "

Hey you're fine... a bit paranoid, but fine. /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif Life really isn't as dangerous as the media portrays. The Government really doesn't have the resources to watch you naked in your back yard. And, we all live on this earth and know what it COULD be like without having the GOVT. to ensure our way of life. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Ease up on them, they are just overdoing their job without really meaning to. It is just their nature. /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif Captain Boxer Suntied /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>And this is the same govt. that decided that it was wrong for the Boy Scouts of America to ban known gay men from being scout leaders! Who in thier correct mind is going to "let a fox into a henhouse?" <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I just want you to clarify this statement for me so I am sure I am not misunderstanding you.

Are you saying that it was a good thing that the Boy Scouts banned gays because you think they are pedophiles?

[RIVERRAT]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by cyndiann:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>And this is the same govt. that decided that it was wrong for the Boy Scouts of America to ban known gay men from being scout leaders! Who in thier correct mind is going to "let a fox into a henhouse?" <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I just want you to clarify this statement for me so I am sure I am not misunderstanding you.

Are you saying that it was a good thing that the Boy Scouts banned gays because you think they are pedophiles? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>you need to go back to Sodam watch lot walk away.

[RIVERRAT]

When I was boy scout age and at boy scout outing, kids talked what kids talked about seeing girls naked, breasts, and other body parts, im sure the same topics come up at girl scout gatherings, kids who arn't aware have this curiosity, when you spend a week at a nudist outing, body awareness isn't the topic, it's just kids playing sports and having fun.Those of you who are so uninformed, think about, maybe even your small minds will see the wholesomeness, of this lifestyle, get your heads out of the dark spot and think.