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au revoir
07-13-2007, 08:27 PM
Can anyone give me some legal and not-so-legal advices in my following case?

I swim naked (lap exercise) three times a week in the gym and have been doing this for quite sometimes.

I can swim naked (without wearing my swimsuit) because usually there was no one swimming at the time. Timing is the essence here.

Second, even though there was a pool-guard, he (a student) was usually being occupied with his computer or reading his books.

I am sure the pool-guard could see me swimming naked if he wanted to. But so far he has never mentioned anything about it, even though when we chatted after my swim exercise.

My questions here are:
- Is it legal to swim naked in the gym?
- What could happen if other people see me swim naked there?

Thanks for your advice in advance.
Yellowstud

nakedjohn
07-14-2007, 12:21 AM
Check the rules of the gym first. You could may be come to an agreement with the gym and get some nude time in the pool.

Bobx23456
07-14-2007, 07:33 AM
The municipal pool where I used to swim had a sign which read, "Proper swimming attire is reccommended."

I never challenged them by disregarding their reccommendation, but we noticed that it did not say it was required.

There is an old rule that anything not specifically prohibited is allowed. Keep swimming naked until someone tells you to cover up. No problem.

Bob

luvnaturism
07-14-2007, 08:52 AM
There's another old rule that says that it's easier to get forgiveness than to get permission. Part of what that means is that, when you ask permission, the person in authority has to give an answer that supports official policy, whether he/she agrees with the policy or not.

If the lifeguard is at all doing his job, he already knows that you're swimming nude. He has chosen not to make an issue of it. If you ask permission, he'll have to support whatever policy they have.

So keep doing what you're doing, quietly and without attracting attention. If someone does challenge you, be quick to apologize and assure them that, now that it has been called to your attention, you'll follow their rules. Otherwise you might be banned from the pool.

Nudeinbama
07-14-2007, 11:24 AM
Sounds like very good advise luvnaturism.
Nudeinbama

Evernude
07-14-2007, 08:38 PM
Following luvnaturism’s logic, you also gain plausible deniability should you have a complaint filed against you by some other swimmer who might encounter you naked. You can simply point to the fact that the life guard and attendants never told you not to swim naked. You’ll get one pass for that. Of course, if State law forbids it, you may be in trouble. Look up State Code at: http://www.nac.oshkosh.net/StatesFrames/Legislation_Sum..._summary_frames.html (http://www.nac.oshkosh.net/StatesFrames/Legislation_Summary_Frames/legislation_summary_frames.html)

Happy Skinnydipping.

RichNH
07-15-2007, 04:40 AM
Another adage which seems to apply here is "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!".

Rich

Pete Knight
07-15-2007, 01:07 PM
Originally posted by Bobx23456:
The municipal pool where I used to swim had a sign which read, "Proper swimming attire is reccommended."



But skin IS proper swimming attire!!

Pete Knight

David77
07-15-2007, 04:17 PM
If the lifeguard is at all doing his job, he already knows that you're swimming nude.
It is almost certain that the lifeguard knows that you are nude. Since you swim nude three times a week, it is all the more convincing that he sees you nude. Your timing for a swim when no one else is in the pool is an important factor in deflecting any complaints.

Lifeguards are stationed above the water in such a way that they can look down and scan everyone in the water.

Since you are swimming laps, your body would not be entirely beneith the water and the lifeguard could clearly see your skin, and that you do not have on swim trunks.

I bet that you slip your trunks off while you are in the water and lay them in a small bundle along-side the pool.

Fuzzy Nuts
07-15-2007, 06:23 PM
maybe it wouldn't be a good idea to do the backstroke!

walter05
07-16-2007, 09:33 AM
I would be concerned.

It is not fair, but one day, if a woman, or worse, a woman with a child sees you and calls authorities, you could face legal problems.

That could even lead to being on some sort of sexual predator list. I am not saying this is right, it is wrong, but in this age of paranoia, possible.

I would ask the management in the gym in writing if you want to swim nude. If you don't get permission, I would not take the risk.

Eric6420
07-16-2007, 04:03 PM
You are lucky that you are always alone in that pool.

I find your story a little hard to believe because, at least here in Quebec, the gyms do not open their swimming pool at hours when the demand is low. At what hour do you go to that pool?

Of course the danger depends also on the hour you are in the swimming pool. If it is around midnight, the kids are supposed to be sleeping, and the night croud tends to be more relax.

In gay saunas, there is often a swimming pool where you can swimm naked without problem. It is more expensive than the gym, but you can make a deal with the manager.

Another idea would be if you have a friend with a swimming pool in a discret area.

MJ_KC
07-16-2007, 05:40 PM
I wouldn't do this unless I had permission. Could be that the life guard is letting you do this when he isn't really permitted to let you swim nude.

You have to ask yourself if you are ready and willing to accept any trouble this might cause for yourself.

justnude
07-26-2007, 12:23 PM
I would think that the very worst thing that would happen is that you would be asked to put a suit on if they have not done so already. BTY, which gym is this-as a former Marylander I can not begin to imagine which one of the gyms would allow this to happen-clearly I belonged to the wrong one when I liver there! http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/happy.gif

Rabid_Clam
07-28-2007, 04:11 PM
Where the pool guard has not said a word the law of silence takes precideice. Especially where this has been the case for some time.

Is this pool on pirvate property and owned by private enterprise? Or is this owned by local or state government? All that will make a bearing on such decision.

Would be good to look into but yet again would be good to document every time you went nude and every time you were nude talking to the pool guard.

One has to ask what a jury would think and decide. The more evidence to your favor the better favorable results to your favor will be.

Boreas
07-28-2007, 04:22 PM
Originally posted by justnude:
I would think that the very worst thing that would happen is that you would be asked to put a suit on if they have not done so already.

I would agree with this. This is probably a case too, where it is easier to ask forgiveness than permission.

Pillowman
08-11-2007, 05:25 PM
If you have been doing this a while it is not likely you'd have a problem. and even if you did a precedent has already been set. About teh worst they ould do was ask you in future to wear a swimsuit.

Is the gym open just for guys? If it is you won't be likely to get complaints from other members. Do others swim nude as well?

Each state has different laws and some may not have a law specifit to this.

Here the law states that being nude is not a chargable offence. You'd have to be doing something else "obscene." But Canada is much more lax about nudity in general.

HaroldTheNudist
08-13-2007, 09:22 AM
I don't see why it would be a problem swimming nude. It's the only way.

enjoy yourself

Rabid_Clam
08-19-2007, 10:00 AM
Most likely Canada is much more lax on nudity where it is so darn cold nudity is seldom an issue.

Boreas
08-19-2007, 01:50 PM
Originally posted by Rabid_Clam:
Most likely Canada is much more lax on nudity where it is so darn cold nudity is seldom an issue.

It is not cold here all the time. In fact for many months of the year, the weather in Southern Ontario is much what you would be having in Virginia.

It is not the temperatures that determine Canada's rules. We started out with much different beginnings from the US and so we tend to have more relaxed laws on many fronts. The Mountie (police officer) has been our hero, while the cowboy has been yours. I think that speaks volumes.

vapaa
08-20-2007, 06:33 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by yellowstud:
<...the pool-guard could see me swimming naked if he wanted to. But so far he has never mentioned anything about it...>[QUOTE]

I think he also swim nude!... http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/happy.gif

bikerboy
09-08-2007, 09:42 PM
I would again have to say that Walter05 has really good advice. There is no reason to take chances and then have to deal with the ramifications. Let us know what happens however.

au revoir
09-09-2007, 12:19 PM
Thanks for all your comments and advices.

It seems like a lot of issues related to nakedness that I didn't know or never paid attention to. I will be more cautious.

It's very sad that in fact it's a big gray area / thin line between being naked and breaking the law. I wish things could be as simple as taking the clothes off from our bodies, but it isn't.

Just FYI I am not an exhibitionist, I just like swimming free from textiles if I could. So far so good and I did talk and make friends with the guard. That's the key, I think.

Anyway, thanks again and you all are great advisors. Stay naked though http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/applause.gif

koko
09-23-2007, 05:37 PM
actually i think it is ok as long as there r no rules on the pool or any regulations given to stop u from doing tht and as long as u r happy then go on!

mnguy07
09-26-2007, 11:22 PM
i dont think its legal in mn, but it should be

at least 1 of the 10,000 lakes, should be for nudists

minn18nude
09-26-2007, 11:38 PM
i could agree with ya on that one, there are many hidden lakes here in minnesota that would be great for skinny-dipping and tanning...

mnguy07
09-26-2007, 11:40 PM
many have been used just for that! even in minneapolis

just dont get caught