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Rabid_Clam
12-29-2006, 03:37 PM
Tonight Saddam Hussein will be eliminated from the population of this planet. We are not murdering him but only facilitating the meeting of Saddam and his Maker.
It is not for us to judge, but we need to protect ourselves and others and this is what we do. Punnishment will be the sole judgement of God Almighty, not us. Yet we do not need to keep such a terrible person in our company and that we will not.
Let there be Peace now that we can.
Rabid_Clam
12-29-2006, 03:37 PM
Tonight Saddam Hussein will be eliminated from the population of this planet. We are not murdering him but only facilitating the meeting of Saddam and his Maker.
It is not for us to judge, but we need to protect ourselves and others and this is what we do. Punnishment will be the sole judgement of God Almighty, not us. Yet we do not need to keep such a terrible person in our company and that we will not.
Let there be Peace now that we can.
Fuzzy Nuts
12-29-2006, 03:42 PM
The newscast I heard in Canada said that he would be hung soon even tonight but it didnt really say that it would happen tonight - I hope it does.
nacktman
12-29-2006, 05:44 PM
According to AP the Iraqis plan to hang him by 10PM EST which will make it near dawn in Iraq.
Now, how long do you think it will take for the nuclear blast of violence following his hanging will induce to begin?
If you thought it was bad there now - you're only part right.
Like it or not he was the only thing keeping the lid on top of the boiling pot as it were. So, a few drops boiled over every so often, well they'll be on another planet wondering what that strange object is that fell from the sky when the lid finally lands after it is blown off the top of the pot.
hm0504
12-29-2006, 05:57 PM
Saddam is "credited" with killing about 1 million people through war and murder between his rise to power in 1979 and his overthrow in 2003 -- about 40,000 per year. In the three years since his overthrow, between 300,000 and 600,000 Iraqis have died -- or about 100,000 per year (taking the low end) and that rate is unfortunately increasing dramatically.
My guess is the U.S. will soon put in someone like Saddam in order to get the figures down to where they were in Saddam's time.
Boreas
12-30-2006, 10:39 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Rabid_Clam:
We are not murdering him but only facilitating the meeting of Saddam and his Maker.
It is not for us to judge, but we need to protect ourselves and others and this is what we do. Punnishment will be the sole judgement of God Almighty, not us. Yet we do not need to keep such a terrible person in our company and that we will not.
Let there be Peace now that we can. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I am truly disturbed by this whole issue. While I do agree that Saddam Hussein was an evil man, I am strongly opposed to capital punishment. To me it is indeed playing god and we have no more right to do that than Saddam had in executing those he did. What is the answer? I do not know. I just do NOT think capital punishment belongs in society and it does not create peaceful circumstances. We are already seeing evidence of that this morning after the execution.
Peaceful acts do not include killing another human being, even one we consider to be despicable.
Qikdraw
12-31-2006, 12:11 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by hm0504:
Saddam is "credited" with killing about 1 million people </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Ahhh... But what was he actually convicted of? 148 dead in Dujail Thats it.
Why?
I think partially the reason he was only convicted of something relatively minor, in light of his other 'accomplishments' anyway, is that for a good amount of his other crimes he was supported by the US while he was doing it. It wouldn't look good in the papers if during Saddam's trail he mentioned that it was the US and Britain who gave him WMD technology.
While it was supposed to be the Iraqi people putting him on trial, we were the ones calling the shots.
An Iraqi mentions in her blog...
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Why make things worse by insisting on Saddam's execution now? Who gains if they hang Saddam? Iran, naturally, but who else? There is a real fear that this execution will be the final blow that will shatter Iraq. Some Sunni and Shia tribes have threatened to arm their members against the Americans if Saddam is executed. Iraqis in general are watching closely to see what happens next, and quietly preparing for the worst.
This is because now, Saddam no longer represents himself or his regime. Through the constant insistence of American war propaganda, Saddam is now representative of all Sunni Arabs (never mind most of his government were Shia). The Americans, through their speeches and news articles and Iraqi Puppets, have made it very clear that they consider him to personify Sunni Arab resistance to the occupation. Basically, with this execution, what the Americans are saying is "Look- Sunni Arabs- this is your man, we all know this. We're hanging him- he symbolizes you." And make no mistake about it, this trial and verdict and execution are 100% American. Some of the actors were Iraqi enough, but the production, direction and montage was pure Hollywood (though low-budget, if you ask me). </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Her final words are a taste of what we have brought Iraq to.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Here we come to the end of 2006 and I am sad. Not simply sad for the state of the country, but for the state of our humanity, as Iraqis. We've all lost some of the compassion and civility that I felt made us special four years ago. I take myself as an example. Nearly four years ago, I cringed every time I heard about the death of an American soldier. They were occupiers, but they were humans also and the knowledge that they were being killed in my country gave me sleepless nights. Never mind they crossed oceans to attack the country, I actually felt for them.
Had I not chronicled those feelings of agitation in this very blog, I wouldn't believe them now. Today, they simply represent numbers. 3000 Americans dead over nearly four years? Really? That's the number of dead Iraqis in less than a month. The Americans had families? Too bad. So do we. So do the corpses in the streets and the ones waiting for identification in the morgue.
Is the American soldier that died today in Anbar more important than a cousin I have who was shot last month on the night of his engagement to a woman he's wanted to marry for the last six years? I don't think so.
Just because Americans die in smaller numbers, it doesn't make them more significant, does it? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Qikdraw
hm0504
12-31-2006, 02:37 PM
Qikdraw, see my Eric Margolis post in the "Saddam is dead" topic.
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