bad nudists experince

[ranul]

I would like to know if any one had a bad nudist experience and why they are still in nudisim .
I am not to concerned with what the expreince was but more to the question of what save nudism for you

[ranul]

I would like to know if any one had a bad nudist experience and why they are still in nudisim .
I am not to concerned with what the expreince was but more to the question of what save nudism for you

[closit2000]

I would say my bad experience would be the lack of support I have recieved from those whom i've told that I enjoy being nude as much as possible. Social nudity in a club situation is not possible at this time since my wife is totally against the idea. I am still a closet nudist for the same reasons I became one to begin with, it feels good. At this time, Clothesfree is my social outlet.

[Jeff1950]

I would guess that my bad experience is the fact that my wife is so against it that she doesn't even like for me to be nude around the house when she is here. So my nude times are just me and the computer.

[Nudony]

I wouldn't consider any of my nudist experiences to have been "bad"; yet, I've had some days tarnished by people whose motivations where less than wholesome. I've been stared at very intently, and so has my wife. But that's nothing compared to a lady I once met, whom, on her very first nudist experience, was hit on by a man with an erection. But just as she did, most nudists understand that the nudist world contains its share of "bad apples", and to not let one or two bad experiences impede on their desire to pursue social nudism.

[luvnaturism]

I've never had a bad experience, partly because I'm very careful about where I take my wife. Earlier on it would have taken only one single unpleasant happening to have caused her to refuse to try any further. We have enough experience at it now that I don't think the effect of a single event would be the same, but part of my caring for her is that I'm not going to carelessly take her places where she might be approached by that guy with an erection that someone else mentioned.

[danorganic]

The first two times at a nude beach I was hit on by a gay man each time. I fugured out that i was sitting in an area of mostly gay men looking for sex. So i moved to a differnet area and havent had that happen since. I was kind of upset about this and almost gave up going to the beach, but I wanted to keep going and try to keep the true nudist experience alive, and mainly because I enjoyed being able to be naked outdoors and this was the easiest and most economical way since I dont have privacy in my yard and clubs cost and you have to go through some hoops to get in it seems. I understand that there has been a recent movement to improve the conditions at this particular beach.

[Steve Dallas]

Each time I've been nude, I've had the bad experience of having to put my clothes back on.

[danorganic]

Finding economical ways to be without clothes sounds kind of bizzare. http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

[NudePete]

On my first or second visit ever to a C.O. beach years ago I witnessed a very obnoxious man hitting on a woman. Not being confident enough to walk over and intervene, it was up to someone else to stand up to this pervert - and some one else did (several in fact). The woman was relieved and thankful, and I regret my inaction to this day.

It hasn't stopped me though, and I believe that the woman is still a regular visitor as well.

[Cheffred]

My worst experience at a nude beach is leaving and gettind dressed

[ranul]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by NudePete:
On my first or second visit ever to a C.O. beach years ago I witnessed a very obnoxious man hitting on a woman. Not being confident enough to walk over and intervene, it was up to someone else to stand up to this pervert - and some one else did (several in fact). The woman was relieved and thankful, and I regret my inaction to this day.

It hasn't stopped me though, and I believe that the woman is still a regular visitor as well. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
it would be intersting to know why she is still a nudist

[NudeAl]

My first social nude experience got me arrested, well sort of. I was following a rumor of a nude beach on the north end of the base, San Onofre. I just headed out the wrong way, on the military side, well a Military Police patrol came by. Normally they just herd the nudies off the beach, well they could tell by my hair cut that I was a Marine so the busted me. Ended up turning me over to my command and I was sweating bullets. But, I had a really cool warrant officer and he got all of it removed from my record, and nothing was ever said again. Another time I almost got ticketed by a park police officer, I had to give him all my info but he decided to give us a break. I have been at beach that was raided by an over zealous sheriffs deputy. I have also seen some of my favorite spots get closed to nudism for inappropriate behavior. I still go not as often but it is still part of who I am.

[tinner666]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ranul:
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it would be intersting to know why she is still a nudist[/QUOTE]

I believe she knows one bad apple can show up in any mixed bag, but understands that it's not the norm. And she may also know that we will not tolerate that behavior for long. You were shy the first time, but I bet you step to the plate next time. And don't worry, you won't be alone. We tend to band together when necessary.

[David77]

As usual, I put my car keys in my pants pocket. I undressed at the car, put all my clothes in the car trunk and closed the trunk lid.

Since I therefore could not get my clothes without my car keys in my pants in the car trunk, I called a locksmith, but it was on a holiday and no locksmith was avalable in that small town (Union City Michigan).

A resident of Turtle Lake Resort used his wrenches to take out the back seat so that we could retrive, (with use of a wire) my pants with my keys.

[riptidenj]

Aside from experiencing the anti-single discrimination , at one resort I encountered a
grumpy old loudmouth who got all bent out of
shape claiming I took "his" lounge chair. I hadn't of course. I have learned that in any
activity you will meet at least one rude and obnoxious idiot, you can't let them spoil things for you.

[missCarol]

My negative experience came when I was at the beach and I was acosted by one of those mouthy preaching types who screamed at me because I was wearing a Thor's Hammer necklace and not her precious cross.

Why is it those idiots think I want to hear them when I am not relaxing at work much less relaxing at the beach?

[Rabid_Clam]

The worst experience I ever had was fantastic.

As to those preaching screaing bible thupers, a a reverend myself but certainly do not bring up the subject of religion unless the other/s want to discuss it. Am very open anyway, there is no correct relition or incorrect one, just some we can live with and others, like you were attacked by that you can't.

[usuallylurk]

Never had a "bad" experience.

There were some situations that my wife and I stayed away from; also, some that we wouldn't go into again, but on the whole, they've been good.

[Joe Nudist]

My Worst experience was when Old Man said I have good looking body.

[ncnudlady]

Like most women I have had my share of unwanted advances. But, the one bad experience in a nudist environment was the advancements of a extremely drunk individual that thought it funny to crawl on the floor, although I believe that was all he could do at the time, and stick his face within 2 inches of my crotch and say howdy neighbor as I sat cross legged on the floor talking to friends. After the second time he did this I left and have not been back. I could not ask the management to throw him out, he and his wife were/are the owners of the club.

[Croydon]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Joe Nudist:
My Worst experience was when Old Man said I have good looking body. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I still do not know what the bad experience was.

[shãybare]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ncnudlady:
Like most women I have had my share of unwanted advances. But, the one bad experience in a nudist environment was the advancements of a extremely drunk individual that thought it funny to crawl on the floor, although I believe that was all he could do at the time, and stick his face within 2 inches of my crotch and say howdy neighbor as I sat cross legged on the floor talking to friends. After the second time he did this I left and have not been back. I could not ask the management to throw him out, he and his wife were/are the owners of the club. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif
Sorry you had the bad experience but I would like to assure you this was not typical nudist behavior. Far from it. Be brave enough to stand up for your self. What club was this and what was the owners' name? If you can't face this guy again, at least write or e-mail him and demand an apology.

[barbararuth]

The worst experience I ever witnessed was when a very overweight middle-aged woman was verbally abused during lunch at the resort I used to attend. Several younger people were making inoppropriate comments for all to hear and the woman was not only embarrassed but getting extremely upset. I asked the woman to join me at an outdoor table away from those rude people and she did, and then to join my friend and me by the pool. The woman was extremely appreciative but decided to leave soon afterward swearing to never return under any circumstances.

[Rabid_Clam]

Actualy just had a bad experience! Is a very cold winter so far, much below normal for many weeks. But today it warmed up to just above normal.

Was outside bringing wood in for the wood stove and was so nice i wanted to get totally naked to do this task, but the neighbors were home.

This was a very bad experience where I had the great warmth of the sun, a private yard but not private enough to enjoy the sun and wind as I would most choose to.

Oh well!

[Ken Palmer]

Wow! That was very unfortunate for that lady. You may expect it in place like a shopping mall or on a city bus or something. But never in a nudist or naturist setting. Especially when the general concept is body acceptance! What a shame if she were never to return there to enjoy an activity she obviously enjoyed and relished because of the actions of a few rude and obnoxious individuals!

Ken Palmer


<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by barbararuth:
The worst experience I ever witnessed was when a very overweight middle-aged woman was verbally abused during lunch at the resort I used to attend. Several younger people were making inoppropriate comments for all to hear and the woman was not only embarrassed but getting extremely upset. I asked the woman to join me at an outdoor table away from those rude people and she did, and then to join my friend and me by the pool. The woman was extremely appreciative but decided to leave soon afterward swearing to never return under any circumstances. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

[Jeff1950]

The fear of something like this happining is what is keeping my wife away.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by barbararuth:
The worst experience I ever witnessed was when a very overweight middle-aged woman was verbally abused during lunch at the resort I used to attend. Several younger people were making inoppropriate comments for all to hear and the woman was not only embarrassed but getting extremely upset. I asked the woman to join me at an outdoor table away from those rude people and she did, and then to join my friend and me by the pool. The woman was extremely appreciative but decided to leave soon afterward swearing to never return under any circumstances. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

[G I Joe]

On my very first visit to a nudist resort I was told that I wasn't allowed since I was single.

[MarvinJS]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Freedom Guy:
On my very first visit to a nudist resort I was told that I wasn't allowed since I was single. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Since I am not partnered, that makes me sad. Especially since I am new to this, and was hoping that I might be able to visit resorts that would allow nudism/naturism in all of its diversity (single/partnered/male/female).

I guess that means that before I make any vacation plans, I better do my homework. Would hate to travel and then have to turn around.

[Cheri]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MarvinJS:
Since I am not partnered, that makes me sad. Especially since I am new to this, and was hoping that I might be able to visit resorts that would allow nudism/naturism in all of its diversity (single/partnered/male/female).

I guess that means that before I make any vacation plans, I better do my homework. Would hate to travel and then have to turn around. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Many nudist parks, clubs, and resorts welcome singles. Homework should definitely be done and inquiries made about accommodations, etc. before one travels to anywhere, be it nudist or textile.

I've been to over 50 clubs, parks, beaches, and resorts during the 38 of my 58 years and would be happy to make recommendations to you or anyone. There are some parks that do require AANR membership before entrance. There are other parks that recognize any and all national memberships.

Back on topic...never really had a bad experience.

Regards, Cheri

[tinner666]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by barbararuth:
The worst experience I ever witnessed was when a very overweight middle-aged woman was verbally abused during lunch at the resort I used to attend. Several younger people were making inoppropriate comments for all to hear and the woman was not only embarrassed but getting extremely upset. I asked the woman to join me at an outdoor table away from those rude people and she did, and then to join my friend and me by the pool. The woman was extremely appreciative but decided to leave soon afterward swearing to never return under any circumstances. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


I'm sorry to hear of her experience.
http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif I can honestly say that I believe the 'commenters' would have been spoken to, and then in all probability, shown the gate at WTP.

[fred950]

While I never personally witnessed any thing like BarbraRuth's expirience, I have had a few of my own.

Shortly after my divorce, I decicded to seek out social nudity. One of my first stops was a large (in acreage) nudist camp just a few miles fro where I grew up. I was given a day pass then told firmly never to come back unless I had a female companion.
Another local group turned out to be a thinly disguised gay sex club. I stuck around just long enough to get directions to Mazo Beach.

At Mazo, I think my worst was when I was awoken by a Dane County Sherriff's Deputy. Seems if there was a drowning at the beach over the night. He and others were trying to find out what happened.

[MJ_KC]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MarvinJS:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Freedom Guy:
On my very first visit to a nudist resort I was told that I wasn't allowed since I was single. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Since I am not partnered, that makes me sad. Especially since I am new to this, and was hoping that I might be able to visit resorts that would allow nudism/naturism in all of its diversity (single/partnered/male/female).

I guess that means that before I make any vacation plans, I better do my homework. Would hate to travel and then have to turn around. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I have gone to one local place that consists of a lake to swim in and some sand dumped on the shore to create an artificial beach area.

I have never been to a nudist resort that is fully equipped with a pool and rooms to stay in because all of the ones that I have enquired at do not allow a single male to attend by themself.

I have pretty much given up after 15 years of asking. It is just too much trouble for me to want to deal with it any more. I would have to travel a long distance to find a resort that would let me in and it just isn't worth the hassle.

[MJ_KC]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Cheri:
Many nudist parks, clubs, and resorts welcome singles. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Can you name any clubs/resorts within 3 or 4 hours drive of Kansas City that allow single males and that do not impose a strict limitation on attendance? I haven't found any.

I do not have or plan to get an AANR membership, but I do intend to renew my TNS membership that recently expired.

[sliver]

The only "bad" experience I've had was at my parents New Years Eve party last year. My family is well aware of my naturist tendencies and light jokes are normal. A couple from out of town was present and the woman asked me several questions about the lifestyle. Her husband was highly offended by this and they had a huge fight on their way home that night. Although I did my best to promote naturism in a positive way, the husband thought I was "hitting" on his wife. I've learned that some people will be offended/jealous no matter what.

[PascoDoug]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by sliver:
The only "bad" experience I've had was at my parents New Years Eve party last year. My family is well aware of my naturist tendencies and light jokes are normal. A couple from out of town was present and the woman asked me several questions about the lifestyle. Her husband was highly offended by this and they had a huge fight on their way home that night. Although I did my best to promote naturism in a positive way, the husband thought I was "hitting" on his wife. I've learned that some people will be offended/jealous no matter what. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

This sounds more like a bad textile experience than a nudist one. http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Cheri]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MJ_KC:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Cheri:
Many nudist parks, clubs, and resorts welcome singles. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Can you name any clubs/resorts within 3 or 4 hours drive of Kansas City that allow single males and that do not impose a strict limitation on attendance? I haven't found any.

I do not have or plan to get an AANR membership, but I do intend to renew my TNS membership that recently expired. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Prairie Haven and Oaklake Trails are two. When my club members (even if they are associate long distance members) want to travel I gain entrance to clubs for them. One traveled a number of times to 40 Acres.

Cheri

[kelly99]

One of my first times to a clothing optional beach. One guy and two girls(20's) joking about my undersize genitals. Fortunately in 30 years of naturism it was the only time (that I know of).

[greensunshine]

If I recall the resort over in Topeka KS doesn't restrict its membership to those who aren't single or in a relationship.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MJ_KC:

I have never been to a nudist resort that is fully equipped with a pool and rooms to stay in because all of the ones that I have enquired at do not allow a single male to attend by themself.

I have pretty much given up after 15 years of asking. It is just too much trouble for me to want to deal with it any more. I would have to travel a long distance to find a resort that would let me in and it just isn't worth the hassle. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Greensunshine

[greensunshine]

If one's own worth has be measured against that of his/her outside body, it is obvious, he/she isn't worth much.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by kelly99:
One of my first times to a clothing optional beach. One guy and two girls(20's) joking about my undersize genitals. Fortunately in 30 years of naturism it was the only time (that I know of). </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Also let those who measure others against the size of what they supposedly have on the outside, be reminded that it is nearly impossible to measure a man or woman until one gets to know the person being measured against what is unknown on the inside...many a great person, is completely unknown and undervalued until they reach their more mature years (over 40).

Greensunshine

[nacktman]

My 'bad experience(s)' came when I was a young boy and had some of the others about my age tease me because of the thick glasses I had to wear (without them I could not see a person 3ft in front of me much less clothed or not), but this was not confined to my being a nudist either, I used to get it from everywhere.

Now, after retnal surgery to both eyes I can see a person 1000ft in front of me and be able to tell which side their hair is parted on.
No more glasses and no more hassles due to them.
It is funny about that, decades of discrimination and poof its gone, makes you wonder sometimes.

[MJ_KC]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Cheri:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MJ_KC:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Cheri:
Many nudist parks, clubs, and resorts welcome singles. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Can you name any clubs/resorts within 3 or 4 hours drive of Kansas City that allow single males and that do not impose a strict limitation on attendance? I haven't found any.

I do not have or plan to get an AANR membership, but I do intend to renew my TNS membership that recently expired. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Prairie Haven and Oaklake Trails are two. When my club members (even if they are associate long distance members) want to travel I gain entrance to clubs for them. One traveled a number of times to 40 Acres.

Cheri </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Prairie Haven basically told me that I would never get in because they already have too many male members whose wives have passed away. That leaves them with a surplus so they are not accepting any new single male members.

I haven't contacted Oaklake Trails, but I will ask them what their position is on single male visitors. They list themselves as a family park, so the may have limitations in place.

[MJ_KC]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by greensunshine:
If I recall the resort over in Topeka KS doesn't restrict its membership to those who aren't single or in a relationship. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I have been there. This is a lake area with no cabins or a place to park a travel trailer.

[DoctorSurferDude]

Single males...at nude beaches...pretending to be sausage makers. Although I wouldn't call them "nudists" really.

Paradise Lakes...the swinger thing. But aside from that I've not had bad experiences at resorts aside from front gate unfriendliness (MJ_KC is familiar with that).

[stephen russell]

Went to So CA camp & felt I didnt relate to the people there.
Came in alone & felt left out.
Everyone in group or couples etc.
It was NO Fun.
May try again.
BUT NO connection came forthwith.
Maybe Europe is better??
IE to Americans or not???
Felt shunned by camp X.
Are all AANR camps like this??
Plus being single didnt Help.

[Cheri]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MJ_KC:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Cheri:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MJ_KC:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Cheri:
Many nudist parks, clubs, and resorts welcome singles. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Can you name any clubs/resorts within 3 or 4 hours drive of Kansas City that allow single males and that do not impose a strict limitation on attendance? I haven't found any.

I do not have or plan to get an AANR membership, but I do intend to renew my TNS membership that recently expired. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Prairie Haven and Oaklake Trails are two. When my club members (even if they are associate long distance members) want to travel I gain entrance to clubs for them. One traveled a number of times to 40 Acres.

Cheri </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Prairie Haven basically told me that I would never get in because they already have too many male members whose wives have passed away. That leaves them with a surplus so they are not accepting any new single male members.

I haven't contacted Oaklake Trails, but I will ask them what their position is on single male visitors. They list themselves as a family park, so the may have limitations in place. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

When you call, it's in your attitude that may deter you from admittance. When you call, be pleasant. If you have an AANR membership let them know nicely. Ask if it would be possible to visit.
Cheri

[fredm74]

Sausage makers? Do I really need to ask what you mean? http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

And by the way, what do you have against swingers?

-Fred


<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DoctorSurferDude:
Single males...at nude beaches...pretending to be sausage makers. Although I wouldn't call them "nudists" really.

Paradise Lakes...the swinger thing. But aside from that I've not had bad experiences at resorts aside from front gate unfriendliness (MJ_KC is familiar with that). </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

[fredm74]

Can you elaborate? How is that a bad nudist experience? Were you left traumatized?

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Joe Nudist:
My Worst experience was when Old Man said I have good looking body. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

[Joe Nudist]

The man was Gay. No I was not Traumatized.

[BackpackerBrian]

I feel I am pretty lucky. Not a lot of bad nudist experiences. Been hit on by some swingers and single guys. This happened most in the "early days".

Nowadays at beaches I will go to the more social areas, where the volleyball net is, and tend to go with friends. And I also tend to be with friends at clubs, so there's a natural barrier aganist unwanted advances.

[deejay-gee]

One of the first times I went to Brighton beach a rather loud individual started to "pleasure" himself within sight of not only myself but a young lady who was on her own, presumably this display was for her benefit. She ignored him and he got bored and went elsewhere.

The worst time though was when I took my girlfriend (now wife) to Brighton beach and as we were leaving we saw a man in the bushes doing the same but within the confines of his shorts and poking his tongue out in a really unpleasant manner. I haven't taken her back to Brighton since.

[hootowl]

Hey, Would anybody else care to join a roster of prior military, i.e. Vets! Ill start. U.S. Army 1967 thru 1971, including tour with 101st Abn Div. RVN, then to Bangkok Thai for 30 months. From Hell to Heaven, as it were!!

[justnude]

On one visit to our local club, I undressed and placed my clothes in the trunk. Unfortunately, I had apparently hit the "lock" function on the alarm and there I was-naked with my clothes and keys safely locked in the alarmed car!

Fortunately, my sons were still in high school so after a call to the school principal, one was released to go home and fetch the spare set of keys! Other then that, any day nude is a great day!

[Fuzzy Nuts]

justnude - Great story!!!

And I agree with other posts the worst experience I have had while on a nude beach or resort was putting on clothes to leave.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MJ_KC:
I have gone to one local place that consists of a lake to swim in and some sand dumped on the shore to create an artificial beach area.

I have never been to a nudist resort that is fully equipped with a pool and rooms to stay in because all of the ones that I have enquired at do not allow a single male to attend by themself.

I have pretty much given up after 15 years of asking. It is just too much trouble for me to want to deal with it any more. I would have to travel a long distance to find a resort that would let me in and it just isn't worth the hassle. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Keep Your eye on CBR in franklin Co. MO. they are a new upstart and are family and single friendly. at last word the official opening will be in the spring of 2007
http://www.caribbeanbreezesresort.com/
I have been to at least one "pre-open open" and have met a small handful of others that all seem to be decent and polite.

at the event i made my attendance, there where more than one gay people attending,(I am not gay) but I was not made uncomfortable by any, except one.
I tried to strike up a "small talk" conversation with one person and was blown off(ignored)
that was the worst of my social experiences. I just went on and talked with some one else.
we where all circled around under a canopy by the owners RV. I noticed that this person pretty much kept to him self and did not talk to anyone, (not just me)

[tiger79]

My worst experience was on one of my very favourite nude beaches in Greece - Mirtiotissa on Corfu. It's a fabulously beautiful little beach, flanked by dramatic limestone cliffs. I was there without my wife one day and this gay Greek guy decided to target me; despite being quite rude to him, I couldn't get away other than by dressing and leaving. Bad experience!

[Big-Thinker]

I've also had advances by gays... most take a hint without me having to be rude, but of course you have to be less subtle in an urban beach like Haulover. While momentarily annoying, I can't say it ruined my day or anything like that. And I'm sure it's the tip fo the iceberg as far as the unwanted advances women get.

We had a experience was at a Florida resort, which we had information was "clothing-optional". I took a woman there on our second date. Never having tried nudism before, she naturally wanted to remain clothed and I admired that she at least had the courage to try the place. I think she was considering getting nude, but not ready. She wrapped a towel around, although she was nude underneath. The problem was an employee of the resort... he kept following us around trying to "persuade" her to get nude. Looking back I should have said "Hey, if nudity is mandatory, kick us out - otherwise leave her be!". Now, mind you there were women that looked like regulars, who were clothed or wrapped in towels, but somehow this guy felt he had to harass my date on her first time. She is now my girlfriend, and needless to say we never returned to that resort. The experience may have something to do with her current refusal to get nude herself at a nude beach or resort (although, of course, I do- and she is a home nudist now).

Oh, I almost forgot...about 1992, on Haulover Beach, which was more rough around the edges at the time... I was married at the time and some freak walks by and starts "pleasuring himself" while trying to get the attention of my wife. Needless to say, we didn't stay long. If only I would have had a taser handy.

Of course, nothing will ever ruin nudism for me, unless we suddenly plummet into an ice age and there is no way to heat my home :-) If I have repeatedly bad and intolerable experiences at a certain location or group, I'll just avoid them - and possibly report the behavior.

[Liam]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ranul:
I would like to know if any one had a bad nudist experience and why they are still in nudisim .
I am not to concerned with what the expreince was but more to the question of what save nudism for you </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I would say that the most disappointing experiences I've had as a nudist have been here on this forum. I used to consider nudists to be the most accepting of all groups. I am rethinking this viewpoint. I have met more hypocrits and subtle homophobes here than anywhere else I have ever been. Most seem to parrot the nudist "party line" and seem unable to have any individual thinking. Many take nudism too seriously, in my opinion, and lack the joy of living and the necessity of humor.

There are many good people here and I have benefited by getting to know them and learning from them.

[Nudony]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I would say that the most disappointing experiences I've had as a nudist have been here on this forum. I used to consider nudists to be the most accepting of all groups. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Like any other sub-culture, you're going to find "purists" that are intolerant of anyone who thinks or acts "outside the box." I have seen nudists openly criticize another person for not going completely nude; and one nudist I know will not socialize with or even address another person unless he/she is completely nude. A woman got kicked out of a nudist group I belonged to for being flirtatious (perfectly innocently.) And I saw a gay man I knew being treated like a lepper from the moment he set foot on a resort.

Luckily, such attitudes are not in the majority.

[CCNude]

Sorry to hear about problems like Big-Thinker and others have experienced. I guess I've just always been more lucky in getting weirdos and other unpleasant people to get away from me and leave me alone.

[Liam]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Nudony:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I would say that the most disappointing experiences I've had as a nudist have been here on this forum. I used to consider nudists to be the most accepting of all groups. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Like any other sub-culture, you're going to find "purists" that are intolerant of anyone who thinks or acts "outside the box." I have seen nudists openly criticize another person for not going completely nude; and one nudist I know will not socialize with or even address another person unless he/she is completely nude. A woman got kicked out of a nudist group I belonged to for being flirtatious (perfectly innocently.) And I saw a gay man I knew being treated like a lepper from the moment he set foot on a resort.

Luckily, such attitudes are not in the majority. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I agree that they are not in the majority. There just seems to be more of this aspect of nudism here than I have found in either real life or on other nudist fori.

In "real life" social nudism, I have never been caused a moment's difficulty. It makes me wonder about how many posters here are actual practicing nudists.

Thank you very much for your post!

[Liam]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by CCNude:
Sorry to hear about problems like Big-Thinker and others have experienced. I guess I've just always been more lucky in getting weirdos and other unpleasant people to get away from me and leave me alone. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Perhaps you are just too darned attractive to resist! http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/laugh.gif

[CCNude]

More likely so darned unattractive that I don't get hit upon often.

And PS: I am an actual practicing nudist!

[rascal56]

Bad nudist experience. the only one that comes to mind is having to get dressed!

[tiger79]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Liam:

I would say that the most disappointing experiences I've had as a nudist have been here on this forum. I used to consider nudists to be the most accepting of all groups. I am rethinking this viewpoint. I have met more hypocrits and subtle homophobes here than anywhere else I have ever been. Most seem to parrot the nudist "party line" and seem unable to have any individual thinking. Many take nudism too seriously, in my opinion, and lack the joy of living and the necessity of humor. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Liam - I hope you didn't misinterpret my story as homophobic. Nothing could be further from the truth; and indeed some of my closest friends are gay. I've been travelling to Greek beaches for 25 years and Mirtiotissa is one of my all-time favourites. It attracts a lot of repeat visitors, from all over the world. They come as singles (both male and female), couples and groups, with fairly equal proportions of straight & gay people. Almost without exception, they're quiet discreet fun-loving nudists who just want to enjoy the sun, sea and sand. But that one late afternoon a couple of years ago, a local Greek guy started following me as I was walking along the beach, then came over and put his towel on the sand next to mine, lay down and proceeded to masturbate enthusiastically whilst giving me suggestive looks. I asked him a couple of times to go away, but he wouldn't. So I dressed and left. What was even more bewildering was that he was a good-looking, well-built 30-something, whereas I'm an overweight, under-muscled 50-something! Anyway, it wasn't a pleasant experience.

[Big-Thinker]

I wanted clarify a couple points also:
1. Although I pointed out my bad experiences (because it was the subject of the forum), the vast majority of my nudist experience has been great! I'm sure that's the case with most of us.

2. I'm certainly not anti-gay... I am live-let-live, and I am supportive of their freedom and mine. I just don't want advances. I know that's just going to happen sometimes. I thinkmy bad experiences with some place like Haulover were more a function of an urban environment and so many unrestricted people on the beach. Of course in a resort, people must be better behaved. In any smaller group of people, there is that natual behavioral feedback system where people can only get away with so much. For me, I'm still going to Haulover in a couple weeks... the occasional annoyance is not enough to keep me from that big sunny beach!

[FireProf]

We've only had one experience that wasn't as we would have wanted it. We've not had any "bad" experiences.

We vacationed at a very upscale nude resort and were there over a holiday weekend....unfortunately so were the "swingers." We got through it okay but didn't appreciate their..."in your face" attitudes toward everyone else.

Also didn't appreciate the resorts front desk and managements handling...or shall I say, non handling, of the incidents and situations.

http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/happy.gif

[Tampanude]

The only bad experience we've encountered was a woman slapping her approximately 4 year old (guessing) because he had an erection which, as anyone may deduce, was probably the result of a full bladder at that age.


Very disconcerting.

But that didn't really have anything to do with nudism as much as an ignorant parent.

[CCNude]

What the hell could possibly be wrong with a FOUR-year-old getting a bit of a stiffy? People should lighten up.

[NakedGary]

Nothing, but the mother slapping him for it?

He probably thought what the heck are you slapping me for, I'm just standing here.

[CCNude]

Yeah, what's he going to learn from that? The mother, on the other hand, should be severely dealt with.

[Liam]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by tiger79:
Liam - I hope you didn't misinterpret my story as homophobic. Nothing could be further from the truth;(....) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No, I didn't object to your post in the least. Looking back again for refrence, I only found 1 post that I found to be rude. Not yours Tiger! I actually agree with your post in the situation as you described it.

No, this dissapointment has been growing over some time now. It isn't just any one post or any one poster. It isn't just about intentional or unintentional rudeness re: sexual orientation. It is also about the general nudist-conservatism.

[Liam]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by CCNude:
More likely so darned unattractive that I don't get hit upon often.

And PS: I am an actual practicing nudist! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/laugh.gif

[CCNude]

Ignoring them usually helps. Or if a guy asks me about something that I'm not interested in and I tell him that I'm not interested (this happened at Blacks), he usually loses interest in me because what could be less interesting to him than somebody who isn't interested in what he's interested in doing? I hope that's clear...

[FireProf]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by maliakei:
"Swingers" huh? Someone once approached me at a dance asking me, "are you alone?" and "do you like couples?" I found that kinda strange but reiterated by asking "couples, huh?, what do you mean by 'couples'?" Never did I get a straight answer, just sqeamish body language and "Sorry". An awkward moment yes knowing swinging wasn't my thing but didn't brush him off totally since it was a dance where everybody else was having fun..

But the other approach from someone another time openly said he was a swinger after I got up from playing the piano. The guy was hanging around in the background -- weird vibes -- probably waiting for patrons to clear out & get time alone.. He was pretty forward and had strong opposing opinions in regards to monogamy..and.. how he'd like to make me his 'Main One'..and.. how he's an experienced masseur.. On & on he went and out the door I went to my car telling him "Go Away". Very creepy.. Man O Man..
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

We have not been approached by anyone or any couple. They may pick up on some signal we don't realize we are giving. It's a good thing cuz I really sold my wife on the idea that that type of stuff didn't happen at Naturist venues and she was happy to see that it didn't....in the beginning. Now she's not that naive that she doesn't think it happens but at this resort, the swingers weren't discreet at all.

[Fuzzy Nuts]

[quote by Liam

I would say that the most disappointing experiences I've had as a nudist have been here on this forum. I used to consider nudists to be the most accepting of all groups. I am rethinking this viewpoint. I have met more hypocrits and subtle homophobes here than anywhere else I have ever been. Most seem to parrot the nudist "party line" and seem unable to have any individual thinking. Many take nudism too seriously, in my opinion, and lack the joy of living and the necessity of humor.

There are many good people here and I have benefited by getting to know them and learning from them.[/QUOTE]

Liam - I think you are having a bad day.

Everything is okay as long as someone doesn't say a negative thing about gays. GET REAL There are bad gays as well as bad straights and every negative thought about gays isnt directed towards you.

You know me I try to have positive feelings about all - straight or not.

[CCNude]

Somebody once asked Pres. Lyndon Johnson why he didn't fire FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover and he replied that he'd "rather have him inside pissing out than outside pissing in" -- so, please, people, let's stop pissing in.

[Liam]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Fuzzy Nuts:
Liam - I think you are having a bad day. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/beam.gif Not at all! I got good news from my oncologist on thursday and have been in a good mood ever since!

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Fuzzy Nuts:
Everything is okay as long as someone doesn't say a negative thing about gays.(....) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

My dear Mr. Nuts, I wish I hadn't even mentioned it in my post. The rest of my post would have been less misunderstood then. The "homophbic" thing was a small part of what I was talking about. Yet everyone jumps on that. That speaks louder than I did. "Nudony" understood what I was talking about and responded in a useful manner.

You have known me here and on PM for a few months now. Do you really think I knee-jerk at every negative anti-gay occurance? Surely not. I was mentioning the super conservative views held by many here about nudisim.

I should have kept my mouth shut and not said anything or, at least, been more clear. Or, perhaps more servile. http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/eusa_dance.gif

It seams to me that most peoples "bad" experiences have come from inappropriate behavior from Gays and swingers.

I have noticed this myself. and it has deterred me from returning to a socially nude event.

mind you I have not been approached like this but I find it uncomfortable to be nude around such people because I don't know what SEXUAL thing they are thinking are they oogleing me or having an *** job in their mind with me? I don't want to be the object of ones Lust.

I recently read a post on another forum where someone that was "Bi-sexual" had advertised that he was, was devorced and wanted to attend a nude get together at another gay mans home. he mentioned he "could keep his sex life and nude life seperate; if that was so true then he would not have even made such a comment. and kept it to himself.
I don't go around advertising what my sexual preferences are especially on a nudist forum or at a nude social gathering. that is just BAD MANNERS, and makes people uncomfortable. it's no wonder non nudists think that nudist venues are a bunch or gay and swinger orgies. Thats what it would turn into if all the good mannered types would suddenly disappear.

in short, I don't want to know what your sexual preferences are, keep them to yourself. nude venues are not "pick up joints" no more than a non nude resort are. do that on your own time in a "PRIVATE" manner. that behavior is uncool nude or not.

[walter05]

Segnet;

Whenever people are together, there is a potential for sexual attraction. I have not been to a nudist event. However, I have had women proposition me. I have even had a woman grab me in a private place of my body. I have told the women I am happily married and to leave me alone and left them.

I have also been propositioned by a gay man. He did not touch me however. (I think women who are interested assume all men are, but gay men don't.) I told him I was not interested and that was the end of it.

Inappropriate sexual advances are just that clothed or nude.

This also explains why I have been hesitant to go to a place like Apollo Beach alone or with my wife the first time. While advances can always happen, I would feel far more vulnerable if I was nude. After all if I fell asleep on a beach towel, I would be totally vulnerable. I believe if I am with someone else, this would be less likely.

Walter

[Fuzzy Nuts]

Since I have come out of the nudist closet and have started going to quite a few nudist resorts and beaches I have never been propositioned by a gay male or by a female. I like to think that it is because my wife is usually somewhere in the area and not to the fact that I am past the age of being propositioned!!!

Dont know how this old fart would handle a proposition by either.

[tiger79]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Fuzzy Nuts:
Dont know how this old fart would handle a proposition by either. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Delicately, I'd suggest! http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/wink3.gif

[sliver]

The only time I had a "bad" experience was at Mazo beach, WI. I had planned to go with my girlfriend for months but she was ill and unable to attend with me on that day. I sat in the hetero (upstream) side of the beach, but, because I was alone, no one would talk to me. We plan to go again, but ONLY as a couple. I have learned.

[CCNude]

...or perhaps with stunned surprise??!

[Liam]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Fuzzy Nuts:
Dont know how this old fart would handle a proposition by either. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Just say no. Then bask in the pride and warm glow of being considered a hottie!

http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/rolleyes2.gif

[Baron Lake]

Silver, if you want to go as a couple maybe you should take segnet along. He not only knows what is right and wrong for himself but for everyone else as well. You would have someone to talk to and he can help you fight off the rampaging gays at the other end of the beach.

No doubt the conversation would be both expansive of topic infused with wit.

Have fun kids.
b.l.

[oldbob]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by FireProf:
We've only had one experience that wasn't as we would have wanted it. We've not had any "bad" experiences.

We vacationed at a very upscale nude resort and were there over a holiday weekend....unfortunately so were the "swingers." We got through it okay but didn't appreciate their..."in your face" attitudes toward everyone else.

Also didn't appreciate the resorts front desk and managements handling...or shall I say, non handling, of the incidents and situations.

http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/happy.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Would that have been Sea Mountain Inn?

[kphoger]

has anyone else gotten completely sick and tired of the word "homophobe"?? not only is it usually misused, but it's already just plain OLD.

i thought segnet made a good point and actually brought it back AWAY from the gay thing: sexual advances of either persuausion can turn someone off from nudist venues. if my wife ever ends up attending somewhere, it will probably be in part due to my explaining that it's not sexual in nature. for someone to hit on her while there would definitely stop that in its tracks.

(((as a heterosexual man, i can say that being hit on by a gay man shakes me up more than being hit on by a woman. a gay man might not be able to understand that because he would be used to being hit on by women his whole life. but, it's uncharted territory for most straight men. what would be viewed as flattering coming from a woman would not be viewed that way coming from a man.)))

[NakedGary]

I find it very unusual when anyone emphasizes in speech or text they are heterosexual, homosexual, or bi-sexual, and then mentions "homophobe"

Re:

(((as a heterosexual man,........)))
.

[Unwired]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by kphoger:
has anyone else gotten completely sick and tired of the word "homophobe"?? not only is it usually misused, but it's already just plain OLD.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Interesting, since prior to the above referenced post, the most recent use of the term in this thread was the following:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> The "homophbic" thing was a small part of what I was talking about. Yet everyone jumps on that. (emphasis mine) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

At any rate, my personal preference is to assign responsibility for 100% of untoward behavior at nudist venues to the class of people known as "creeps", which is an equal-opportunity employer. http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/cool4.gif



UW

[Bob S.]

My only bad experience was a perv who kept on following me at White Tail.

You know how some people just give you the creeps upon first meeting them, that was how this guy was. I got an uneasy feeling the first time I met him (he came up to me and introduced himself). Everywhere I went, he seemed to arrive soon afterwards, trying to make conversation with me just trying to ignore him.

Finally, he came out and asked me to accompany him in his room for a "mutual massage". I then flat out told him that I was not gay. This, apparently, did not stop him as a few hours later, not long before I was about to leave, he came up to me again and told me he liked my penis (using the rooster word) and asked me if he could touch it.

Yes, I talked to the office staff and I am guessing they blacklisted him. I never saw him there again.

Bob S.

[NakedGary]

Speaking of Roosters, Have you ever seen my big rooster?

I'm reminded of an incident in a wal mart store around the holidays. the store was packed out and a real nightmare, not enough help, too many shoppers. i was there looking for wiper blades as I recall, and another person behind me in an isle was looking for some special crimp-on electrical wire-ends. she obviously did not know what to get, an I as a mechanic for over 10 years now knew instinctively how to help her, which I did.

about that time some "paid help" arrived only to shout LOUDLY but in a talking manner like she was deaf or something "IT'S NOT A GOOD IDEA TO LEAVE YOUR BAG UNATTENDED AS THERE COULD BE SHOPLIFTERS AND THIEVES LOOKING FOR A CHANCE TO STEAL" she said this because I was in easy reach of her purse. but it really made me fell bad, all I wanted to do was help the woman, and i get labeled a potential thief!

it seams that we almost have to take a similar approach at nudist venues. perhaps carry a whistle or something to "blow" if being solicited, or feel threatened by another guest.

[missouriboy]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">has anyone else gotten completely sick and tired of the word "homophobe"?? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Yes, I have. Long, long ago. Literally, it just means "fear of sameness" (phobia=fear, homo=same). Why should I or anyone else be afraid of sameness?

It's just a concocted word, used as an accusatory epithet against those who have no similar word in defense, like the equally dirty-word "anti-semite." The use of either word means "You are guilty until proven innocent," but there is no way to prove innocence!

I refuse to use it.

[walter05]

I am happily married. I am not interested in a sexual encounter with anyone other than my wife.

When I was propositioned by the gay man, he took no for an answer and left. I was not offended.

When I was propositioned by the persitent women, especially the one that grabbed me, I was offended.

Whether gay or straight, if the proposition is polite and if refused that is the end of it, I don't have a problem. If the proposition involves stalking or persistence, this becomes offensive.

As I said, all of the incidents involving me were in clothed settings. Therefore, nudity was not a variable.

I would prefer not to be propositioned. However, if I am and it is polite and no is accepted as an answer, then gay or straight, I will not be offended. If the proposition involves stalking and persistence, then gay or straight, I will feel threatened and be offended.

[Fuzzy Nuts]

Wow Gary, you sure have a big rooster lol

[kphoger]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> I find it very unusual when anyone emphasizes in speech or text they are heterosexual, homosexual, or bi-sexual, and then mentions "homophobe"

Re:

(((as a heterosexual man,........)))
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

i stated that i'm heterosexual (in case it wasn't already obvious) because i proceeded to explain something that i thought might not be obvious to a gay man. i thought it might clarify things.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Interesting, since prior to the above referenced post, the most recent use of the term in this thread was the following:
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>
oh, i didn't mean just in this thread. the term has been increasingly annoying me for a while now, and thought i might not be the only one.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> perhaps carry a whistle or something to "blow" if being solicited, or feel threatened by another guest.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>
maybe a fly-swatter.....

====

i've never been to a nudist resort, so answer me this: is it a general rule that people shouldn't flirt with or proposition others at a nudist resort, or is it acceptable? if it's acceptable, then what exactly is the complaint? if it's not acceptable, how is it that people don't get that message or heed it?

It has been my experience that flirtatious behavior of any kind in unacceptable and will be dealt with in accordance with the club policies.

(asked to leave) I have not been to too many resorts so my experience is not very diverse.

[Big-Thinker]

I wanted to mention that, while it may seem like there is alot of mentions of unwanted gay approaches here (including my post), I think it's because there are not so many woman posting. I'm sure that, for every man that gets an unwanted approach from a gay man, there are many more unwanted approaches to a woman from straight men.

Just another topic where women need to chime in and give us their side! :-)

[brainyguy9999]

I think you're on a valid track Big-Thinker. A female friend of mine told me about an incident where she and her husband stayed at a resort overnight. A lot of people got together in their hot tub pavillion (the hot tub seated 20-30. It was a big deal.) and were drinking and listening to music. She said that she was speaking to one of the long time members and all of a sudden he reached out and grabbed her breast. Up until then they had been laughing and talking about various things but nothing remotely sexual. She said several people saw it and most conversations stopped. Knowing that he had been caught and out of line, he tried to brush it off as a joke, but she and her husband got out of the tub, got their things, and went back to their cabin. She said he apologized several times before they got out the pavillion door and she said 'she accepted his apology but told him that it still wasn't something that he should have done in the first place'. I hadn't spent the night and met up with them the next day at the pool, where she told me the story.

So, I suspect that there are quite a few of these unreported unacceptable incidents that occur but aren't posted here either because of lack of female representation or from the embarrassment of recalling such incidents.

Hope that all makes sense.

Stay nude.

bg

[LamontCranston]

Maliakei.

May I make a suggestion...? Not sure if you tried this, but chivalry is certainly not dead, even while nude.

When you sense a creep in your presence, please approach someone like me, minding my own business, and just ask if I would be kind enough to keep an eye on both you and the guy.

Not interference or help or a complaint or a long conversation, but I'd be happy to pay attention.

If it's off, I'll do something that doesn't involve you.

No embarassment, no scene, don't owe me anything, safe and comfy. That's how it should be.

There are way more helpful guys out there than creeps. If you wanted to fend off advances (or invite them) you'd be standing in a bar on Saturday night, not a nude resort on Saturday afternoon.

Aloha..

Mike S

BTW - This sort of advice goes for wherever you are, any woman reading this, nude resort or not. A feeling like that is thousands of years of survival instinct getting your attention. Don't ignore it.

[Fuzzy Nuts]

Lamont - sounds like real good advice to all the ladies out there and even some of the gents.

[Geo]

I have had only positive experiences at the resort I run the 5K at each year. The only bad experience is one year it was somewhat cool, unusual for July and rainy. Getting dressed to leave is not good any time.

[Baron Lake]

Very kind offer Lamont. You are assuming, of course, that it's not you who she finds "creepy". http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/happy.gif

Being a straight male I've been wondering just how to take being hit on by a woman who is gay.

b.l.

[David77]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Being a straight male I've been wondering just how to take being hit on by a woman who is gay. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Maybe you could quote the line in a play that says (regarding sex in France), "No thanks, we're British!

[Journeyman]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Baron Lake:
Being a straight male I've been wondering just how to take being hit on by a woman who is gay.
b.l. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Maybe I'm missing something from an earlier post, but why on earth would a lesbian hit on a straight man -- especially at a nudist venue? She'd be one in a million.

[NakedGary]

This women could be bi-sexual and go both ways.

[Naturist Mark]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I wanted to mention that, while it may seem like there is alot of mentions of unwanted gay approaches here (including my post), I think it's because there are not so many woman posting. I'm sure that, for every man that gets an unwanted approach from a gay man, there are many more unwanted approaches to a woman from straight men. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It's kind of funny how guys often react to gay passes - it is nothing compared to what women deal with on a daily basis.

The few times I've been subject to passes its been in public places - beach, bar etc - never at a resort, and was never really a problem, no-one has ever failed to take a polite dismissal as a no. It seems like most women don't even take much notice of the passes where a guy takes no for no, while a guy experiences a existential crisis.

-Mark

[Baron Lake]

I wasn't being serious. No, really.
b.l.

[David77]

I have heard of some women who stay with the men in the gay portion of the beach so that they will not be propositioned or bothered.

[LamontCranston]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">... in the gay portion of the beach .. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> I didn't notice the signs. http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/cool4.gif

Isn't one of the attractions of a nude lifestyle that people leave their station in life -- and all it's pretensions -- back with the pile of discarded clothes?

The only thing I know about a nudist is what they say next. That's it. That's why I like it.

[Naturist Mark]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Isn't one of the attractions of a nude lifestyle that people leave their station in life -- and all it's pretensions -- back with the pile of discarded clothes? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

We stand corrected - there aren't 'gay sections' of public nude beaches. http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/goofy.gif

-Mark

[kphoger]

sure there are. ever heard of mazo beach?

[NudeAl]

Just as there aren't many officially nude beaches there aren't many officially gay sections of beaches. However, if you were to conduct a survey of certain sections of some unofficially nude beaches you might find a higher percentage of persons who classify themselves as gay in one section than in another.

[LamontCranston]

I know what you all are talking about... methinks you miss my point.

Can we agree that the practice of naturism is separate and distinct from sexual activity?

If so, why would there be sections in a beach?

I propose it's for those folks who cannot separate naturism from sexual activity.

I'd like to think I can put my blanket down anywhere I like and not be labeled.

So is a nude beach a social event more like watching a band in the grassy park?
Or is a nude beach a social event more like a pick up bar on a Saturday night?

[David77]

Lamont,
There are no gay sections of a beach. Sorry that I missled you.

There are sometimes some areas of the nude beach where gay men like to congregate together. They may know each other as friends and enjoy each others companionship. They may identify with each other and feel a certain affinity for one another, as they are similarly gay.

As I have observed at the north end of Haulover Beach, the numerous men there are just quietly relaxing and sun-tanning. There is no visible "pic-up" activity and there is certainly no sexual activity. They are very well behaved and mannered.

[Liam]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by maliakei:
I appreciate your comments to my post.
Surely, I do love people, however, it's those few pushy pests who've ruined many long-deserved free days I've waited for at my local nudist club a few years back. I'm hoping not to appear negative on CFF, just responding to some of the subject matter posted with some of my own personal experiences. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

As my post much earlier seems to have set all this off, I have been following the progress with great interest. I find it interesting how all this has evolved. I posted that I had never had a bad experience in social nudism. Actually, I don't think I have ever met somone who was rude at nude beaches, resorts or any other nude get together. My only bad experiences have been here on this forum. Very little has been about that, but volumes about nasty encounters in social nudism. I am entertained! http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/cool4.gif