INA and MEMBERS MUST HELP

[Journeyman]

Yes, the subject line looks like I'm shouting, and I am. INA and all of us who use these forums have to help the people affected by the destruction from Hurricane Katrina.

This is not a US problem - this is an international disaster and it means all of us can help, with our money from around the world. Naturists can make a difference.

INA! Show you are a **compassionate company** by organizing INA members' donations to the American Red Cross -- it is the very LEAST you can do!

[Journeyman]

Yes, the subject line looks like I'm shouting, and I am. INA and all of us who use these forums have to help the people affected by the destruction from Hurricane Katrina.

This is not a US problem - this is an international disaster and it means all of us can help, with our money from around the world. Naturists can make a difference.

INA! Show you are a **compassionate company** by organizing INA members' donations to the American Red Cross -- it is the very LEAST you can do!

[NudeAl]

I don't think we should count on seeing a enourmous out pouring of help. Not if the posts of our old friend Cpl Zen express the veiws of many.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> The USA does not need any help from other countries, it is the most powerful and the richest nation on the planet. It always helps others, now it will help itself...
And btw, US army was only in oil rich Aceh, to secure its interest, not for humanitarian help </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

[nudeM]

Journeyman, I'm with you. I think it would be a nice gesture if a donation is made to the disaster victims of Hurricane Katrina in the name of INA. We have a couple of members, who I'm sure, have been affected by the devistation.

I hope the moderators will forward this request to the INA "brass". Very nice idea indeed. As soon as the moderators respond back and set up some sort of a trust, I will most definately send in my donation to the Red Cross on behalf of INA.

We must not forget our members who are unable to enjoy life, however they may see fit, because of this monster storm. http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

[SunGod]

Not that I expcect it or anything, but it would be nice to see some donations from the countries we've (USA) helped recently. Maybe the tsunami victims returning the favor, or Mexico or Canada sending relieif workers and food perhaps. Dont think I'll hold my breath.

[Journeyman]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SunGod:
Not that I expcect it or anything, but it would be nice to see some donations from the countries we've (USA) helped recently. Maybe the tsunami victims returning the favor, or Mexico or Canada sending relieif workers and food perhaps. Dont think I'll hold my breath. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Quite a cynic, aren't you?

I'm a Canadian and I started this thread. I've already donated to http://www.redcross.org - have you?

I wouldn't be at all surprised to see a great many Canadian firemen and police help out down south -- just like hundreds of them did after 9/11 in New York.

[PascoDoug]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SunGod:
Not that I expcect it or anything, but it would be nice to see some donations from the countries we've (USA) helped recently. Maybe the tsunami victims returning the favor </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I kinda doubt the tsunami victims will be able to help, considering that it's been less than year after their disaster (which was several magnitudes worse than Katrina), and most of the victims are either dead, still rebuilding their lives and/or living below poverty levels.

[hm0504]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SunGod:
Not that I expcect it or anything, but it would be nice to see some donations from the countries we've (USA) helped recently. Maybe the tsunami victims returning the favor, or Mexico or Canada sending relieif workers and food perhaps. Dont think I'll hold my breath. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The Government of Canada has already offered any support necessary to provide relief:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">From http://www.psepc-sppcc.gc.ca/publications/statements/2005/20050830_e.asp

On behalf of all Canadians, I wish to extend our heartfelt condolences to those who have lost loved ones as a result of Hurricane Katrina, as well as our sympathies to those who have suffered great losses and personal hardship,” said Deputy Prime Minister Anne McLellan. “During this difficult time, we are offering our support to our friends and neighbours.”

The Deputy Prime Minister added that she has contacted U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff and advised him that Canada stands ready to provide assistance if needed. In addition, the Minister of Health, Ujjal Dosanjh, has directed the Public Health Agency of Canada to contact the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services and offer any assistance that may be helpful, such as emergency medical supplies contained in the National Emergency Stockpile System.
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[shomymojo]

American Red Cross...to donate $$$ just call 1-800-HELP NOW.....Thanks http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[cronat]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SunGod:
Not that I expcect it or anything, but it would be nice to see some donations from the countries we've (USA) helped recently. Maybe the tsunami victims returning the favor, or Mexico or Canada sending relieif workers and food perhaps. Dont think I'll hold my breath. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


I have just heard on CNN that Sri Lanka, one of the poorest countries in the world,
which was also hit by the tsunami, offered a help to the US. CNN didn't say what kind
of help.

[PascoDoug]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by cronat:
I have just heard on CNN that Sri Lanka, one of the poorest countries in the world,
which was also hit by the tsunami, offered a help to the US. CNN didn't say what kind
of help. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I believe they offered to send over disaster management experts

[need2Bnude]

It would have been great if the whole INA name could have been on a donation for relief efforts, but since this is taking a little while, I think the more effective and quick way to get help there is to simply donate to your favorite organization. Its too bad that the media is only focusing on the negative and hasn't given even a glimpse to the what positive things have been accomplished there.

[nudenwv]

at times like this it is impossible for some of us to donate monies. a check from one - one hundred dollars would be useful. it is tragic and over whelming for all of us. let's not forget all the animals and pets that need help or possibly did not make it. i'm sure they'll be missed by those who loved them. once again "united we stand"

[Rabid_Clam]

This disaster was well predicted many years ago. This city was intentionally not prepared for the storms that would eventurally arrive, and one did. And will again.

Is total ignorance for the government of New Orleans and Louisana to build a city housing more than a million people below sea level having a mechanical structure to hold the sea back that is designed and constructed to be only 60% of what nature will send to it. And nature did send and we did loose, just as predicted.

They saved money by creating levys to with stand a force 3 storm. But force 4 and 5 and even the most rare possibility of a 6 is out there. DUH ! So for saving several million dollars in building an intentionally inadequate structure, we loose several thousand people and billions of dollars in property. Not to mention the horrid human suffering that is still going on and will go on for months.

DUH !

Just as stupid are those who build and live in that impending doom area. The price we pay for the benefit of a pocket full of cash that needed to be spent.

I hope we can learn from your most grievous error.

[nudeM]

I have been holding off, but today I did it. I called the Red Cross and made a donation. I have been watching TV and the photos and up close and personal newscasters, really brought a tear to my eyes. I just cannot fathom the destruction, but then again, I 'personally' have not visited the area.

When you see rescue workers carrying babys, elderly folks, and the other needy personnel, it just got to me. Thanks, Journeyman, for bringing up this topic. I'm with you, buddy, we must all donate, no matter how large or small the donation is. It is for a just worthy cause. http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

[Trailscout]

One of our local radio hosts said, "Give until it hurts a little bit, because you are giving to some people who are hurting a lot".

There are many worthy charities. I chose American Red Cross, but take your pick.

Our local food pantry is taking food to some families who are hosting kin from New Orleans. Their families cannot afford to feed their homeless cousins, so the whole community is helping. To make my dollar go further, I went to the Dollar Store and got some great food at rock bottom prices.

[Trailscout]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Rabid_Clam:
This disaster was well predicted many years ago. This city was intentionally not prepared for the storms that would eventurally arrive, and one did. And will again.

Is total ignorance for the government of New Orleans and Louisana to build a city housing more than a million people below sea level having a mechanical structure to hold the sea back that is designed and constructed to be only 60% of what nature will send to it. And nature did send and we did loose, just as predicted.

They saved money by creating levys to with stand a force 3 storm. But force 4 and 5 and even the most rare possibility of a 6 is out there. DUH ! So for saving several million dollars in building an intentionally inadequate structure, we loose several thousand people and billions of dollars in property. Not to mention the horrid human suffering that is still going on and will go on for months.

DUH !

Just as stupid are those who build and live in that impending doom area. The price we pay for the benefit of a pocket full of cash that needed to be spent.
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It is not the fault of the inner city poor of New Orleans that they are flood victims!
The French Quarter of New Orleans was built above sea level on a silty bluff overlooking the river. The soft ground is poorly consolidated and gradually sank below sea level over the past 200 years. The dams on every major river upstream have also robbed the Mississippi River Delta of the sediment it needs to rebuild the land as it slowly subsides. The levees prevented floods, but they also prevented the silt from upstream from building the land back up.

The poor have always had to live on the lowest land in every river town, the land most vulnerable to floods and New Orleans was no exception.

Ideally the government should have decided that the poor should be relocated to higher ground, or we should have proactively spend millions of dollars required for protection against category 5 hurricanes. That would still not guarantee that there would not be structural failures of the levees in times of storm surge.

I have heard a lot of the fleeing residents of New Orleans say that they will never go back. Perhaps that is for the best, for their future safety.

[carebare0047]

This was published in the National Geographic in the Fall of Oct. 2004. It predicts what happened with Katrina and provides a good explanation about how the city has become increasingly vulnerable over time. Man played his part in this as well, both by his actions, and his neglect.

http://www3.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0410/feature5/index.html

[Trailscout]

What an astonishingly accurate prediction of what happened! I am awestruck.