Accepting a C-Section scar

[Chris43402]

Hello,

I am a male nudist who has recently started going to various resorts. My girl friend is a nudist within her home. She's reluctant to go to any resorts due to a c-section scar from the birth of her dtr a few years ago. I would appreciate hearing from mature men and women on how I can help her overcome this. Thanks.

[Chris43402]

Hello,

I am a male nudist who has recently started going to various resorts. My girl friend is a nudist within her home. She's reluctant to go to any resorts due to a c-section scar from the birth of her dtr a few years ago. I would appreciate hearing from mature men and women on how I can help her overcome this. Thanks.

[NudeAl]

Positive reinforcement of how good she looks from you of course will help.

Letting her know that she can remain clothed or semi-clothed in most nude situations. Showing her pictures from nudist publications of other women who have these and other scars. I have seen women who have had mastectomies and they still feel confident enough to go nude. I'm sure the scar is more in how she perceives herself than how others will see her.

You might look into buying her some of those colorful wraps and shawls, pareos etc. There are tons of creative ways to use a yard or so of fabric and still remain essentially nude. She needs to know she will not be judged by others there, this isn't a beauty contest, no one will care that she has this scar except her. Goodluck

[jon71]

My only daughter was born in a c-section. Tell her that it's a wonderful thing (parenthood) and not to worry about it. No one worthwhile would give her a hard time over the scar.

[FireProf]

My wife also has a C-section scar from our youngest daughter, who is now 27 years old.

In our travels to beaches, clubs and resorts, we have seen many, many women with this scar and several others. A women who posts here and on other nudist message boards put this issue into the best words I've seen......."your scars are part of your road map of your life."

What makes nudism so great is that the vast majority of nudists don't concern themselves with what the outside looks like, we are more interested in who's inside.

Though I have been fortunate to not have many and have to undergo the anxiety of a biopsy, skin cancer removal, a C-section or any other types of procedures that would leave a scar, my wife has and has been able to enjoy her life and her nudist lifestyle because she has witnessed many other women and men with these same road maps.

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[naturush]

I might go through the same thing in November, as my first child is due then, a c-section is very possible. I'll let everyone know.

[Cheri]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Chris43402:
Hello,

I am a male nudist who has recently started going to various resorts. My girl friend is a nudist within her home. She's reluctant to go to any resorts due to a c-section scare from the birth of her dtr a few years ago. I would appreciate hearing from mature men and women on how I can help her overcome this. Thanks. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nudists do accept others for who they are. The scars on our bodies are just the roadmap of who we are. One nudist friend while visiting him in the hospital,pulled up his gown to show off his recent surgery. When another friend was in the hosptial for chemotherapy, it was easier to help her wash her hair/head after the chemo in the shower.

Regards,Cheri

[DoctorSurferDude]

About 25-30% of births these days are from C-section. Most women have more than one child. So....not only is there a chance you'll see other women with a c-secton scar, but you'll see a bunch.

It's really not an issue in the nudist community. But since it is to her....maybe a sarong would give her some coverage for the first few minutes...until she sees that a lot of the ladies have the same scar.

[Buff Man in MI]

You should be able to tell from the posts so far that no one at a nudist resort would even notice. If it's a "bikini-line" scar, it will generally be hidden from view anyway.

I've seen all kinds of scars on nudists and none of them are generally topics of discussion, not even whispered about out of ear-shot. I've known nudists with scars that go almost all the way around their body from front to back. I have known nudist women with scars from breast reduction surgery and from breast englargement surgery. Every nudist (every human) has one scar for their entire life, their belly button.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Nudists do accept others for who they are. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


And there are several posts right on this board, made just in the past week that blows that line right out of the water.

Can we get real here?

[DoctorSurferDude]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Cyndiannaked:
And there are several posts right on this board, made just in the past week that blows that line right out of the water.

Can we get real here? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

"This board" is not reality. Many opinions are expressed freely and once in a while without discretion. But when asked, many of us do our best to describe the consensus of nudism.

Please do a search on the topic of "scars" if you want a consensus.

[SLNudeCouple]

Child birth is a fabulous event. I seriously doubt that true nudist will even notice. I'm sure there are numerous men and some women with the telltale zipper down the chest for open heart surgery. Not a problem. Encourage her.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DoctorSurferDude:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Cyndiannaked:
And there are several posts right on this board, made just in the past week that blows that line right out of the water.

Can we get real here? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

"This board" is not reality. Many opinions are expressed freely and once in a while without discretion. But when asked, many of us do our best to describe the consensus of nudism.

</div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Do you feel it's different than a consensus of people in general? I don't.

This board is nothing but words from nudists after all.

And I know of a few incidents where nudists were not so accepting of others, in real life, not online. Are we really any better than your average person? You may want to think so but the proof is in our very own words.

[NudeAl]

Hey cindi thanks for being that black cloud that gets in the way of my little ray of sunshine.

In my experience most nudists are genuine friendly people. Not any better than most others but still not the kind of folks to make snide little remarks about the way a person looks, at least none of the clubs and resorts I've gone to. I think you may be giving out a teensy bit of a negative vibe here, just a little tiny bit.

[BackpackerBrian]

People are people. Nudists are people. So perhaps some nudists will have negative reactions to a C-section scar, most lilkely out of their own insecurity.

However, in my experience as a nudist since 1992, I can't say that I've ever seen where a C-section, or any other scar, has resulted in someone being shunned.

At any club you will see people with scars. Given the popularity of C-sections, you will probably see a C-section scar.

Naturally I also speak as an "outisder" as I have never had a C-section. Perhaps a woman here in the forum, who has had a C-section, could shed some light on this better than I.

But I hope this helps. If she tries it out, chances are good she won't be the only one there with a C-sction scar.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by NudeAl:
Hey cindi thanks for being that black cloud that gets in the way of my little ray of sunshine.

In my experience most nudists are genuine friendly people. Not any better than most others but still not the kind of folks to make snide little remarks about the way a person looks, at least none of the clubs and resorts I've gone to. I think you may be giving out a teensy bit of a negative vibe here, just a little tiny bit. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I've been trying to find a link to a study that was done a year or two back by a young woman in college. She stayed at Cypress Cove and several other nudist clubs to do this. Her study showed that nudists are no better than the general population when it comes to prejudice and those "snide little remarks".

So far I've not been able to find that link, but I will.

What I'm saying is not that nudists are bad in general but that we are not a bit different than those who aren't nudists, just as you said.

I just think that phrases like what cheri wrote shouldn't be thrown about like that, especially when it's been shown not to be true. It's just one of many phrases used by nudists that really doesn't have meaning. It distorts the truth. I'd rather be honest than have someone think something that isn't true. Cheri does have a habit of romanticizing nudism. It really doesn't help the newbies when they are given false information.

[DoctorSurferDude]

One college student.... forgive me, but that sounds like a survey or observational study at best and the bias/non-bias methodology may not be quite as random and contolled as well organized studies. Sounds like maybe a sociology study for a class paper? I can't really trust the results of this college girls one-woman study, but I'd still be interested in seeing the results.

All I can speak from is my experience. I've been to cypress cove...it's ok, I'm not a big fan, it's actually a little boring. The resort I go to now, on the other hand, has a lot of variety....tons of interesting SCARS, all ages, all shapes, all sizes. So I have an optimistic view of nudism because I've been able to find something good.

So I guess I don't think Cheri, myself or others are romanticizing nudism.... maybe they've just found something great at the places where they dwell.

[missouriboy]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> I would appreciate hearing from mature men and women on how I can help her overcome this. Thanks. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Whenever I see a C-section scar, it only rekindles my admiration for the bravery of all womankind to undergo childbirth, in any mode, something I'd be too chicken to do.

Tell her to be proud of that scar.

[Soleil Nu]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DoctorSurferDude:
One college student.... forgive me, but that sounds like a survey or observational study at best and the bias/non-bias methodology may not be quite as random and contolled as well organized studies. Sounds like maybe a sociology study for a class paper? I can't really trust the results of this college girls one-woman study, but I'd still be interested in seeing the results. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I've heard about the same paper. It's actually a masters degree thesis, and the college girl in question is herself a nudist. Her study concluded that nudists in general were not significantly different from the population in general when it comes to judging others and quietly commenting on their appearance.

By the way, this girl still enjoys the nudist lifestyle and is still a card carrying nudist.

P.S. After publishing her thesis she received angry emails and even threats.

[Nu]

Hello,Chris 43402:

Would suggest going first to a resort on a warm, weekend afternoon when a good attendance of people will be there.
Your girl friend will blend right it with the rest of the imperfect people. We are all imperfect in some way. Chances are that no one will notice her scar. Chances are huge that even if they do, it will be a glance and nothing will be said.

Finally, as indicated earlier- a c-section scar, or in fact any scar,is more apt to be admired than criticized.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Soleil Nu:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DoctorSurferDude:
One college student.... forgive me, but that sounds like a survey or observational study at best and the bias/non-bias methodology may not be quite as random and contolled as well organized studies. Sounds like maybe a sociology study for a class paper? I can't really trust the results of this college girls one-woman study, but I'd still be interested in seeing the results. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I've heard about the same paper. It's actually a masters degree thesis, and the college girl in question is herself a nudist. Her study concluded that nudists in general were not significantly different from the population in general when it comes to judging others and quietly commenting on their appearance.

By the way, this girl still enjoys the nudist lifestyle and is still a card carrying nudist.

P.S. After publishing her thesis she received angry emails and even threats. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Threats? From nudists? But nudists accept others for who they are! ROFLOL!

I finally found a copy of the original article on rec.nude.

GAINESVILLE, Fla. (Reuters) - Left your clothes and inhibitions behind
to let it all hang out at a nudist resort?

The naked truth is that you might strip off but you can't strip away
social customs, a Florida researcher has found.

People at nudist resorts tend to behave similarly to the way they do in
the outside world: with the usual sexual hang-ups, social distinctions
and gossip about weight, breast enlargements and the size of personal
endowments, said Ellen Woodall of the University of Florida in
Gainesville.

``It is rather like life with clothes on,'' Woodall, who studied the
nudist movement in the United States for her master's thesis in
anthropology, told Reuters on Thursday.

While nudists often think of themselves as progressive, the practice of
nudism fails to live up to its ideal that everyone will be treated the
same, regardless of social standing or body shape, Woodall said.

Woodall, who herself has practiced nudism for 15 years, spent two
summers as a housekeeper at a nudist resort as part of her two-year
study of nudist resorts, which have evolved into a sizable business from
idealistic and counter-cultural beginnings about 70 years ago.

``I observed the formation of cliques, men commenting on or joking about
the obesity of certain women, women giggling about the size of a man's
genitals, sexual comments and harassment -- all activities one might
commonly witness of larger society,'' she said.

Woodall also said that while women are told looks don't count at nudist
resorts, and seek a refuge from idealized Hollywood images that women
often find depressing, they are then exposed at such camps to nudist art
depicting only so-called perfect figures.

Woodall also said that while nudism evolved from the 1920s in the United
States as an alternative movement where everyone pitched in with money
and labor to build resorts, it was hardly counter-cultural any more,
with annual revenues at resorts estimated at around $400 million.

Whatever its aspirations to social openness, the nudist movement also
tends to involve white, middle class, educated people. ``Participants
are by no means a cross-section of American society,'' she said.

``People participate in nudism because they find it liberating, but it's
very firmly located in the mainstream.''

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Please do a search on the topic of "scars" if you want a consensus. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


This is going right over your head. You are insisting that I have to be wrong when we are actually agreeing. Please keep personal feelings out and really concentrate on what I'm saying. Can you take the words at face value and pretend I didn't say them?

If someone wants to know how they will be treated with a scar, it's an easy answer. They will most likely be treated well but not because we are nudists but because we are people. She would most likely get the same treatment no matter where she went. However, it is not guaranteed that a nudist would not say something unsensitive. I have a female friend that weighs about 350 and she stopped going to the club for about 2 years because she had a bad experience one time. It does happen, nudists aren't immune. The posts here show that we aren't all accepting and so does this study.

I've given proof we are just like the rest of society. Let's see your proof that we aren't.

[Chris43402]

As the original founder of the question at hand, may I politely ask all of you who are getting off the subject to hop back on it or take your discussion elsewhere. Thank you.

[lacey]

I have a C-section scar, not a nice bikini one but a longer vertical incision (I had to have an emergency c-section 18 yrs ago.)
No one has ever mentioned it or made comments. As others have said, if I didn't have the scar I probably wouldn't have my daughter.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Chris43402:
As the original founder of the question at hand, may I politely ask all of you who are getting off the subject to hop back on it or take your discussion elsewhere. Thank you. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

[MJ_KC]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Chris43402:
Hello,

I am a male nudist who has recently started going to various resorts. My girl friend is a nudist within her home. She's reluctant to go to any resorts due to a c-section scar from the birth of her dtr a few years ago. I would appreciate hearing from mature men and women on how I can help her overcome this. Thanks. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I wouldn't give it a 2nd thought. She will find that a lot of nudists have very visible scars and it just doesn't matter.

I have numerous scars. I have one running vertically from just below my breast bone to just below my belt line and another one horizontally from under my left armpit and around to my breast bone.

I am not going to let these scars keep me from going nude or without a shirt.

[DoctorSurferDude]

I'll agree with that....the nudist community is not "immune" to judgement. It certainly falls short of Utopia. It's a shame that your 350 lb. friend had a negetive experience, it's not very fair. But my guess would still be that she's suffered more judgement for her weight in clothed settings than non-clothed settings.

So specifically speaking about C-section scars again. Those are not seen in the general public, they fit nicely under a swimsuit bottom. So lots of women feel shame in having one, and hide it their whole lives, even embarassed to expose it to their husbands. Nudism offers a place where they can stand as they are, show their scar and be accepted. Agreed...there may be a rare incident, like a curious 4 year old, but....I've never seen anybody leave a nudist setting because of ridicule from having a scar, and I'd be the first to quiesce a situation like that if it arose.

[Dolby]

My two cents: I have a rather large surgical scar. I've never been made to feel the least bit self-conscious about it in any nudist setting. Perhaps people notice, but that's as far as it goes. I guess the people I meet are unusually polite or very discreet.

[missouriboy]

I have my own very noticeable surgical scar, running from my navel to just above my penis. I became a nudist in 1996 (coincidentally the same year I aquired the scar, which was very red and prominent then) and I have never heard anyone mention a word about it.

[blackrebel]

This is interesting. It sounds as if she is not really aware of what nudism is all about. I think that this vanity indicates that something is not correct in her thinking. Besides, many women have C-Section scars.

Did she ever go to a nudist event prior? If she did, then she knows that her scar is nothing to worry about. If not, take her and let her see how 'normal' she is and in fact probably in better shape than others.

I have 23+ inches of scar across my front from a liver transplant. Folks asked me what the scar is, but no problem.

[Sammyboy]

I think that responses here tend to be disproportionate to what happens in real life. The whole internet is like that. It's Internet Hardman syndrome - like people making physical threats to people who are 2000 miles away. There are people who feel free to openly say here "I hate to see X (people with scars, tatoos, cigarettes, piercings, fat people, gay people, etc etc)", who would never dare to say those things to any of those people in public.

In the times I've spent on nudist beaches, I've noted that nudists in general are more accepting of body shape and appearance etc, and so they should be. Fat people, for example, are much more represented on nude beaches than textile beaches, and "judge not lest you be judged!". I think the reality is that many people with scars, who are overweight, etc etc won't go to textile beaches, because they think they'll be judged about the way they look. When they decide that they don't care, they decide it all the way, and get naked, cos if it's ok to look the way you look, then it's ok, right?

I'm rambling, but what I'm saying is, if she attends a nude beach, she'll see fat people, thin people, saggy people, old people, scarred people, every kind of "doesn't fit the stereotype of beauty" person, and if my experience is anything to go by, she'll not see any of them getting a hard time, or funny looks. That's how I'd help her - don't take her to a resort, take her to a beach, where she doesn't HAVE to be naked, and can make her own mind up. Chances are, she'll make it up the way you want her too.

[Bob S.]

Has she gone to a beach or a pool since the birth of her daughter Chris? If so, what does she wear? A one-piece? A bikini?

If she is reluctant to wear a bikini when she has in the past, then there may be a long road to acceptance. Is it just her scar or is she also carrying those mommy pounds as well and hasn't been able to rid herself of them?

For now, just reassure her that she is beautiful and nudists accept most things, especially scars such as she has.

Bob S.

[takeitontherun]

Lets just agree to disagree and say that we all have scars in some form or another. I seriously dont forsee any horrid, OMG type expressions if and when i arrive now that i have done some reading here first. I cannot stand my scar at present moment but my asking if i would be made to feel self conscious got me nothing but positive answers that were no more hurtful had i asked if my cellulite (not that i have any! lol) would be accepted.

[PTJD]

I am sitting on the fence on this one, we need to be honest. Wife and I have been to Nudist resorts and campsites for 8 months starting in January of this year. We have gone 5 times now and enjoy it. Having said that, we go because we enjoy the feeling of being nude in the sun and around other natural people.
But we are human, I have been on a lot of other message boards and read comments about "no one will pay attention to your body etc..." YES they do! I do look (not gawk) when a new person comes to the swimming pool and notice people looking at us when we arrive.
If they have a c-section I notice, but that does not mean a thing to me and my wife, we will treat her the same as any one else.
But to say we dont notice is not true, sorry most of you want to carry the banter of nudism to a different level than normal society and I admit Nudists are friendlier than most other groups in society but we do notice!

[Naturist Mark]

I have seen active nudists with extensive scars, with missing breasts and missing limbs. People DO notice such things, but no one cares. A C-section scar is very minor (and very common) compared to what some nudists are perfectly happy to ignore. Don't let fear overule your happiness.

-Mark

[richinud]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Chris43402:

My girl friend is a nudist within her home. She's reluctant to go to any resorts due to a c-section scar from the birth of her dtr a few years ago. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

One of the most positive aspects of nudism is how irrelevant everyone's appearance is to one another. I've seen thin people, fat people, normal (?) people naked. I've seen pretty people and ugly people, young and old, smooth and wrinkly, naked. I've seen a naked man with his body covered in brown spots, a naked woman with what looked like the scar from a partial massectomy. My tummy is round and my hair is thinning on top, and splattered with grey. So, who really cares about all of this?

Chill out and enjoy the sunshine.

Rich.

[RalphVa]

Either I was seeing things or one of the finalists in the most recent Miss Teen USA had quite a scar between her belly button and pub area. It was quite apparent during the swimsuit competition. Think she was one of the final 5 even. Forgot which state she came from.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RalphVa:
Either I was seeing things or one of the finalists in the most recent Miss Teen USA had quite a scar between her belly button and pub area. It was quite apparent during the swimsuit competition. Think she was one of the final 5 even. Forgot which state she came from. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Which shows this isn't a nudist issue, it's a human being issue.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">One of the most positive aspects of nudism is how irrelevant everyone's appearance is to one another. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I guess you didn't read the posts before yours. It isn't a positive aspect of nudism, it's a positive aspect of humanity. This would have happened outside of nudist venues just as readily.

[Ren]

People are always going to judge others no matter how much they say they won't. She should be reminded that the scar came from (unless she feels otherwise) one of the most important and happy occasions of her life. Without that scar, there could have been complications and trauma. But with it, she likely had a preferable experience giving birth than to what could have happened.

Also, it's important not to worry about what other people think, too much. We care more about appearance and less about behavior. Turn the tables on that. If you overhear someone saying something, don't just let it go. Make a scene and teach them a lesson. And then she could tell the story of why the scar was a necessity and put the people in their place.

[BareDebCNA]

We (my now ex and me) weree living in a nudist camp when I had to have my Hysterectomy and I wasn't judged by anyone or made to feel uncomfortable. It is a bikini line one. Since then I have had a breast reduction and surgery on my right knee as well as my gallbladder removed leaving a scar of 7 1/2 inches. I am going to have more necessary surgery on Sept 10 and will have a scar running down from my breastbone to my navel. After that I will have many more scars. I seriously doubt that I will be made to feel uncomfortable or judged by my fellow nudists. I haven't had problems in the past so I shouldn't now eitherhttp://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif ALL the nuditst I have come accross in the 20 something years I've been around them have been accepting and loving, caring kind of people.
Tell your girlfriend that all will be okay.
Afterall, we only feel the way we make ourselves feel and are in control of our own emotions.
Love ya'll,
Deb from Montana

[HereticChick]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BareDebCNA:
We (my now ex and me) weree living in a nudist camp when I had to have my Hysterectomy and I wasn't judged by anyone or made to feel uncomfortable. It is a bikini line one. Since then I have had a breast reduction and surgery on my right knee as well as my gallbladder removed leaving a scar of 7 1/2 inches. I am going to have more necessary surgery on Sept 10 and will have a scar running down from my breastbone to my navel. After that I will have many more scars. I seriously doubt that I will be made to feel uncomfortable or judged by my fellow nudists. I haven't had problems in the past so I shouldn't now eitherhttp://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif ALL the nuditst I have come accross in the 20 something years I've been around them have been accepting and loving, caring kind of people.
Tell your girlfriend that all will be okay.
Afterall, we only feel the way we make ourselves feel and are in control of our own emotions.
Love ya'll,
Deb from Montana </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I also have a c-section scar, breast reduction scars and a long scar on my elbow. I could care less what people think of my scars. I know for a fact my husband doesn't even see them. He thinks my breast are awesome! My c-section scars are 20+ years old and are fading. It kind of looks like a smile. Just the way I feel, all the time. http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[P.J.]

Art is one of my hobbies. It's easier to draw a man than a woman. If my pen and ink rendition makes a guy look like Charles Bronson, my subject is more likely to be thrilled with such a masterpiece. Not so with any female subjects!

It seems that several scars on a guy are more positively accepted than a few minor scars on a woman. http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

Seriously, there certainly is a double standard when it comes to scars and it seems to the ladies who are to blame! How many girls express an awe at the sight of scars on men...yet get ultra-sensative when a trivial-looking blemish is noticeable? http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

The sooner that we all learn to accept our scars as marks of distinction, the better! http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[Ed 2]

I see no reason for a wonam to have shame about a c-section scar. There is only one reason for a woman to have one...childbirth. What is more beautiful than bringing a new life in to the world. No matter how it happens, bring a new life into the world is great. C-sections are a fact and nothing to have shame about

[Jason Lee]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ed 2:
I see no reason for a wonam to have shame about a c-section scar. There is only one reason for a woman to have one...childbirth. What is more beautiful than bringing a new life in to the world. No matter how it happens, bring a new life into the world is great. C-sections are a fact and nothing to have shame about </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I see no reason for a woman to have shame about a c-section scar.

[Naked_Justin]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by freedom2be:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by P.J.:


It seems that several scars on a guy are more positively accepted than a few minor scars on a woman. http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

Seriously, there certainly is a double standard when it comes to scars and it seems to the ladies who are to blame! How many girls express an awe at the sight of scars on men...yet get ultra-sensative when a trivial-looking blemish is noticeable? http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

The sooner that we all learn to accept our scars as marks of distinction, the better! http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's about the strangest observation I've read...women express awe at the sight of scars on men? I can seriously say I've never done so nor I have ever seen it expressed in my presence...scars denote injury - perhaps they have evoked some sympathy for the pain and suffering experienced...but awe???? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sure they do.
One of the scars I have from several surgeries is an indentation about and inch and a half to my left of the main surgical scar.
I've been asked several times if it's a gunshot wound.
Each time they seem very impressed until I tell them it was caused by a feeding tube.
Then they suddenly aren't so interested.

Justin

[P.J.]

Dear Freedom2be...

I agree with you!

Scars do denote injury, but some women [along with some men] do seem to have a fascination with some scars and tattoos.

After spending over 20 years on active duty with the U.S.Navy, I have no tattoos but I have acquired a few scars from some injuries from both my days as a civilian and as a Sailor.

[takeitontherun]

In order for this *lifestyle* to be completely unjudged, someone that felt the need to cover a certain area yet be nude otherwise should be respected and not be told that there are times in a club where any light covering will HAVE to come off. My sewing mind is conjuring up something that i can make to cover what i have on my midsection but every other little inch of me would be exposed and that should be fine and dandy or it would be a falsity that i would feel truly accepted and welcomed.

[MikeJB]

Women shouldnt worry about having c-section scars when theyre nude, those things are completely natural and if anybody else cant handle seeing them then theyre the ones with the problem and need to learn to deal with it. When it comes to scars I dont know why we all really care what other people think anyways, they either accept it or oh well its their loss. If they dont have the backbone to treat us the same as they treat others then theyre not really worth talking to anyways.

[oilynude]

What is the fuss about. Other people have scars from say an appendix operation, OK this is a small one, but what about people who have had heart surgery and have a large scar, are they bothered or embarrased?

Without the scar you, or your children for the ladies with the c section scar, may well not be alive.

Anyway, scars or not, although there are only two basic bodies, think of the millions of variations

[FireProf]

What is the fuss about. Other people have scars from say an appendix operation, OK this is a small one, but what about people who have had heart surgery and have a large scar, are they bothered or embarrased?

Without the scar you, or your children for the ladies with the c section scar, may well not be alive.

Anyway, scars or not, although there are only two basic bodies, think of the millions of variations

There was no "fuss."

He simply asked for advice so he could relay positive support to his female friend regarding being nude with others and have this particular scar.

Positive support!

[Navigator]

We have some good friends who have both been nudists for 40 years or so. A couple of years ago the guy part of the couple had a massive heart attack and lived through it because they got him to the hospital and opened up in time.

As he healed, his huge scar was very visible but it didn't stop them from coming out to our nudist club. Today the scar is barely visible.

When I asked him about the scar, he and his wife indicated they're proud of it. They see it almost as a badge of honor showing that he managed to live through the experience.

[FireProf]

Exactly....Navigator!

In our case....my wife's C-section scar is quite large and not the "bikini" incision they usually make. Her's is large because her C-section was an emergency. Our second child was about to be born but had a "prolapsed" cord and the head was pushing the against the cervex. Our Dr. had to insert his hand, take pressure from the head off the cord and they rushed my wife into surgery......no time for a neat and pretty "bikini" scar but a very large one from belly button to supra pubic area.

That scar is a constant reminder that our second child was born safely and healthy!

[Landlord]

Fire Prof;

We share your views. My wife has a similarly large scar from surgery for ovarian cancer. No one has ever commented on it, it we view it as a battle scar from a war she won. We all have scars, some visible, some not so visible, but they are part of who we are.

[curious78]

I view the scars as something to be proud of. They can be sexy too!

[bobk]

Whoever started this thread (too lazy to look) must have a bombshell of a wife if the only thing she is (was?) concerned about exposing to others is her C-section scar. My experiences with nudist outings has shown me that bodies under clothes are much more objectionable than nude bodies. It is so easy to pick something wrong with the appearance of another person if they are wearing clothes, but any number of physical imperfections are all overlooked if the person is nude. No one can select clothing that is going to please everyone that sees them, and sometimes thoughts come to mind that someone is intentionally trying to hide a physical imperfection with clothing, but those attempts achieve the opposite. Certain clothing choices tip off the observer as to what the wearer is hiding, or what the wearer is trying to draw attention to, and there is something dishonest about that. Conversations abound about what people wear. Nudes, on the other hand, simply do not comment about or focus their attention on the physical appearance of other nudes, probably partly because their own imperfections are not supposedly hidden under clothing, but more because of a generous feeling toward others who accept what they are and who enjoy the company of others who are like-minded.

[mzdab3000]

We all end our travels on this mortal coil bearing scars and marks that define our progress through life. Some of them are quite visible, some like a C-section are usually hidden except in our unique lifestyle. It is good to recall that some of us bear scars that are not visible at all, scars that mark our psyche and minds. Acceptance of the presence of surgical scars is but one portion of acceptance that we all should practice.

I have seen people with various scars at nudist resorts. Mastectomies, finger amputations, people wearing braces to support limbs affected my neurological conditions. Seeing a slight scar like a C-section would be minor. None of these made one bit of difference to me. I was just delighted to be experiencing the freedom of nudism.

Yes, people do notice. Most do not comment. My own wife, who is not a social nudist, bears one that has faded for the most part. It does mark an extremely happy event, the final safe delivery of our son, after a long, stressful attempt at so-called normal childbirth. She is not at all self conscious of it with me and it is now exposed since she keeps herself trimmed in that area (she used to not maintain it much and it was hidden for many years).

On one last issue, the report that nudists are just as catty as the general population. I can support that issue based on personal observation. I was seated on a ledge of the main pool at Cypress Cove a few years back where I was joined by two couples. Oblivious to my presence, their conversation soon moved to discussing another resident of the resort and her "antics". All things that I am certain they would not be prone to share to this woman's face. I didn't know these people; they obviously did not care that I heard them though they could not know that I DIDN'T know their "friend". Nudists are just normal people with the same good traits and bad characteristics.