If I am menstruating ...

[CB & Di]

... is it OK for me to wear shorts, even if the resort is not clothing-optional? (I wear Always sanitary napkins; I can't wear tampons).

Just curious. Usually, my periods are pretty regular and we plan our vacations around them, but worse case scenario I was just wondering.

Thanks.

[EricNY]

Yes it is OK...

[Big-Thinker]

In general, I would say it would be fine wearing shorts. There are some more extreme resorts, but they are the minority. It couldn't hurt to call ahead & ask, but you should be fine 99% of the time anyway.

[fred950]

While I agree that a vast majority of clubs will understand about your situtation, there is another option. After my ex had some surgery done, the hospital issued her a pad that attached to an elastic belt, similar to a garter belt. After the novelity of it wore off, she actually preferred it to the type that attaches to her panties.

[shomymojo]

Most nude resorts will be understanding about this...its just part of the circle of life...

[David77]

The resorts will be understand about the wearing of shorts at this time.

Incidentally, I am told that when women wear tampons at a nudist resort they should remember to cut off the string and not leave it dangling.

[krcNY]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by CB & Di:
... is it OK for me to wear shorts, even if the resort is not clothing-optional? (I wear Always sanitary napkins; I can't wear tampons).

Just curious. Usually, my periods are pretty regular and we plan our vacations around them, but worse case scenario I was just wondering.

Thanks. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I am sorry it took so long for a female to respond to you http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/sad3.gif

It is normal and accepted in the nude communities. Don't worry about it...just do what is comfortable for you. http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/happy.gif

Some women wear shorts, some bathing suit bottoms with long t-shirts or sarongs.

[tinner666]

Fine and dandy.
http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/happy.gif

krcNY put it well.

[Rabid_Clam]

Is a most natural process that will go away in a short time. Men have erections, we can't do allot about that either but is also natural. When I see a woman wearing shorts or something in a naturist setting I assume she needs that bit of privacy for that reason and is not questioned nor thought of. Just part of life.

[krcNY]

That is the problem RabidClam...we do not want to draw attention to ourselves during that time of the month. We just want to blend into the background.

[Marsketa]

Yes it is OK http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/happy.gif Or you can wear a sarong if that is more comfortable.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by krcNY:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by CB & Di:
... is it OK for me to wear shorts, even if the resort is not clothing-optional? (I wear Always sanitary napkins; I can't wear tampons).

Just curious. Usually, my periods are pretty regular and we plan our vacations around them, but worse case scenario I was just wondering.

Thanks. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I am sorry it took so long for a female to respond to you http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/sad3.gif

It is normal and accepted in the nude communities. Don't worry about it...just do what is comfortable for you. http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/happy.gif

Some women wear shorts, some bathing suit bottoms with long t-shirts or sarongs. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

[ellie]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">
Some women wear shorts, some bathing suit bottoms with long t-shirts or sarongs. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm a bikini briefs wearer in those circumstances. Fortunately my cycle is pretty regular so I can plan holidays months in advance knowing when my period is likely to occur.

I've only been caught out once, and wore bikini briefs for one week out of two, feeling like a fraud the entire time, like I wasn't a "proper" naturist.

Worse, when I did get them off the tan was a week behind, so I was a little cotton tail for the second week, imagining other naturists saying "ah, bless! He's coaxed her out of her bottoms at last!" http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/laugh.gif

[steve1979]

there is no way unfortunately, wearing a short seems to be the solution :disappointed:

[nakedjohn]

It is understandable, nature, so no problem if you wear shorts on those days.

[JeepNude]

Nobody notices or says anything, ever. Wear your shorts and have a great time!

[Cheri]

You can always use a tampon and cut your string short if you don't like wearing clothes. I know just about all nudist parks require nudity in pools and hot tubs.
Cheri

[Camille]

Did you miss the part about not being able to use tampons Cheri?

[Cheri]

Sorry, Camille. I guess I need to slow down.
Cheri

[Sigmund]

Of course I don't know why you wear pads rather than tampons, but would a menstrual cup be an option? Google "Diva Cup" for info.

[Joontiki]

I'm a bikini briefs wearer in those circumstances. Fortunately my cycle is pretty regular so I can plan holidays months in advance knowing when my period is likely to occur.

I've only been caught out once, and wore bikini briefs for one week out of two, feeling like a fraud the entire time, like I wasn't a "proper" naturist.

Worse, when I did get them off the tan was a week behind, so I was a little cotton tail for the second week, imagining other naturists saying "ah, bless! He's coaxed her out of her bottoms at last!"
"I was a little cotton tail for the second week" Lol! So CUTE!

This whole conversation makes me thankful that i had a hysterectomy 10 years ago. I haven't thought about periods for years! Back then i would never have been able to plan holidays around my periods. They were too erratic! Generally it was one week on (& down-and-out for the first 2-3 days solid, curled into a ball of pain, with a hot water bottle), and two weeks off, but that changed drastically month to month. It did get better after i had kids, but still, it was bad.

My biggest problem back then was going backpacking though. The 'alpha male' of our hiking/backpacking group didn't want me to go with them when i had my period because he considered me bear bait!! Hehe.

Anyway, if i had this problem now, as a naturist, i think i would be doing the sarong thing. Nice to know that that is an option for women during their periods.

[John Skinner]

I think being comfortable first. Being respectful of others. Shorts or covering would be up to you

[S&S]

This may have already been said, but my wife has used a tampon and cut the string short enough so it wouldn't show.

She prefers not to be fully-nude the first two days of her period but after that using a tampon works great!

[Amber1986]

You know what creeps me out?

It is getting advice about very personal matters from men (especially single men). I don't usually talk about these things in mens presence.

[Joontiki]

You know what creeps me out?

It is getting advice about very personal matters from men (especially single men). I don't usually talk about these things in mens presence.
That's why we have "Girl Talk", Amber! :-) We can talk about all this stuff without the guys!

But this is the public Women's Issues area. Men are welcome to comment, and personally, i enjoy hearing their comments.

I also post in the Men's Issues. I wonder how many men see my posts and think that i shouldn't be posting there? Hmm. I wonder. But i think that most would welcome a woman's point of view.

[Centauri4]

You know what creeps me out?

It is getting advice about very personal matters from men (especially single men). I don't usually talk about these things in mens presence.

Amber, I hope you won't mind me saying the idea of this being a "personal matter" is something that should (IMHO) be countered through education and exposure to the topic. The worst case scenario is for boys growing up in an all male environment with a single dad and being completely clueless about this topic and related issues! Even with two parents and a fairly open and progressive family environment, I knew very little about female biology until High School.

To raise future generations of more sympathetic, compassionate and understanding men, it is absolutely essential these topics not be treated as "icky" or reserved for woman-to-woman discussions. A friend of mine mentioned the Diva Cup also mentioned in this thread and when I told my wife about it (just now), her reply was, "I've never heard of this either." My wife is especially sensitive to ickiness and immediately shot down the idea of anything non-disposable in the area of feminine hygiene. I suspect this might be due, at least in part, to her upbringing and conditioning by the modern consumerist (TV ad) movement focused on "extra comfortable", "extra easy", "curved", "better fitting, "active lifestyle" and "nobody will know you're wearing it" in ALL things!

Lately I am beginning to think much of the ickiness of life and many aches and pains we all suffer through are linked to the toxic sludge incorporated into our daily diets getting absorbed in to our bodies and taking hours, days, weeks or longer to be "filtered" out. I wonder how many engineered food products also have anticoagulant properties that might be making womens' monthly cycles much worse.

We need to begin rethinking our all-consuming approach to life if we hope to save this planet.

~

[LanceAtCaliente]

You know what creeps me out?

It is getting advice about very personal matters from men (especially single men). I don't usually talk about these things in mens presence.

Amber:

It is very understandable that you feel this way. What is wonderful about the nudist lifestyle is that you can talk to anybody about things like this. Gender doesn't matter here. In the nudist scene, women and men understand and respect one another.

Periods are not taboo. Erections are not taboo. Mastectomies are not taboo. Orchiectomies (Having a testicle surgically removed because of disease) are not taboo.

Here, women and men understand one another, respect one another and help one another whenever possible. Yes, it does take a while to get used to this. It only feels embarrassing and unnatural to you now, because in mainstream society, they have made it so. You can really talk about things here.

You're accepted here. By the way, I can truly say that most of the best advice I ever received about "guy stuff" was from a woman ... my wife. Well, that just goes to show you, doesn't it?

You'll get used to it, become comfortable with it and be thankful for it in time: The ability to be truly yourself with no shame or embarrassment whatsoever ... and the ability to really talk to people about these things. Again, you're welcomed here. Feel free to speak freely. Got a question? Ask it. Have a comment? Make it.

Peace.

[MoonShadow]

Amber:

It is very understandable that you feel this way. What is wonderful about the nudist lifestyle is that you can talk to anybody about things like this. Gender doesn't matter here. In the nudist scene, women and men understand and respect one another.

Periods are not taboo. Erections are not taboo. Mastectomies are not taboo. Orchiectomies (Having a testicle surgically removed because of disease) are not taboo.

Here, women and men understand one another, respect one another and help one another whenever possible. Yes, it does take a while to get used to this. It only feels embarrassing and unnatural to you now, because in mainstream society, they have made it so. You can really talk about things here.

You're accepted here. By the way, I can truly say that most of the best advice I ever received about "guy stuff" was from a woman ... my wife. Well, that just goes to show you, doesn't it?

You'll get used to it, become comfortable with it and be thankful for it in time: The ability to be truly yourself with no shame or embarrassment whatsoever ... and the ability to really talk to people about these things. Again, you're welcomed here. Feel free to speak freely. Got a question? Ask it. Have a comment? Make it.

Peace.

Huh?

Can you elaborate on this is a bit?

[LanceAtCaliente]

Huh?

Can you elaborate on this is a bit?

Sure! Notice what Joontiki said just above:

That's why we have "Girl Talk", Amber! :-) We can talk about all this stuff without the guys!

But this is the public Women's Issues area. Men are welcome to comment, and personally, i enjoy hearing their comments.

I also post in the Men's Issues. I wonder how many men see my posts and think that i shouldn't be posting there? Hmm. I wonder. But i think that most would welcome a woman's point of view.

Thanks, Joontiki! That says it all, really!

This is a PUBLIC forum. With this website, we can send a PRIVATE message to other members. If gals (or guys) want to talk privately about anything, they can just "private message" each other using that feature on this website.

The point that I was making above is simply this:

IMO ... gals and guys are uncomfortable and embarrassed talking about gender-specific issues in a mixed-gender open forum like this one ... mostly because they are not used to doing so ..., because general society (the Textile World in nudist parlance) says that we SHOULD NOT do this and implies that if we do that it is ... bad ... wrong ... shameful. They're wrong.

They say the exact same things about being nudists; i.e., that it is ... bad ... wrong ... shameful. Well, most of us are nudists here, right? Well, are we REALLY ... bad ... wrong ... shameful ... like general society says we are?

I don't think so. Most people on this board don't think so.

My whole point is that gals and guys actually help each other a lot by openly, freely and intelligently discussing gender-specific issues. To me, anyway, there is no male race, no female race ... there is just the HUMAN race. We help each other tremendously by our joint perspectives. That's all I mean.

Love your comments, everybody. Peace to all.

[LanceAtCaliente]

Briefly, also:

Look at what Centauri4 said just above! Brilliant reply, Centauri4! Kudos to you!

Again, much of the best advice I ever got about "guy stuff" ultimately was given to me by gals! THAT'S my whole point! We, as both gals and guys, can help each other a lot with our perspectives and points of view. Good information and helpful advice is exactly that ... no matter the gender of who offers it. We're on this forum for ... good information and helpful advice!

Whether it comes from a gal or a guy, it doesn't really matter, does it? We got what we came here for. That's all I'm saying.

Peace.

[Boreas]

That's why we have "Girl Talk", Amber! :-) We can talk about all this stuff without the guys!

But you are a guy Lance, aren't you?

It is interesting that all of your posts have been in the female topics. Why is this?

[LanceAtCaliente]

But you are a guy Lance, aren't you?

It is interesting that all of your posts have been in the female topics. Why is this?

Because, my wife and I were just talking about these very things, and she recommended to go on this forum and comment. That's why. I'm done commenting on these issues and will comment in the guy issues section soon ... after finishing working much later on tonight.

Moreover, most of my commenting has been done on another nudist chat forum: www.Nudis-Resorts.org ... commenting mostly on the guy/gal ratio issue at nudist resorts and specifically on what's going on at Caliente; that is, aggressively pursuing the swinger market.

I've been to Caliente many, many times and have personally watched this whole issue develop. The management there is endangering nudist activity in the USA, because America is still a very conservative country in some ways. One zealous district attorney or state legislator getting riled up about Caliente's actions could very well set off a legistlative chain reaction and get much of our present nudist freedoms outlawed ... in a flash.

Think it can't happen? Well, it can! AANR has worked for DECADES to enable us nudist to enjoy our activities here in America. Caliente is jeopardizing these privileges. Yes, they are privileges, not rights.

Anyway, again, I only commented on these issues simply because my wife and I were discussing them a lot recently. I have no fixations or agendas. Accordingly, I'm asking you very kindly, do not infer that I do, for such is not the case.

I'll be commenting on guys' issues starting tonight, and I'll be saying exactly the same thing that I'm saying here. Feel free to read them in the guys' section and commently freely if you wish.

I thank you. Peace.

[Boreas]

Anyway, again, I only commented on these issues simply because my wife and I were discussing them a lot recently. I have no fixations or agendas. Accordingly, I'm asking you very kindly, do not infer that I do, for such is not the case.

No inferences here. Just questions.

[LanceAtCaliente]

Last Comment In This Section:

My wife and I plan to develop, build and promote two new resorts:

She will in charge of a smaller, more intimate resort specifically designed to appeal to women. Desert Shadows in California, to my knowledge, is the ONLY resort actually doing this. They are doing it very well. I commend its owners. They've done a GREAT job. Why are we doing this? Because, we would like such a resort here in Florida. There is a great, unmet need for such a resort here. All of this is my wife's idea. She will be in charge of this resort. It's her baby. She WANTS to do this. I'm just helping her out, because I know a lot about the real estate, dealmaking and legal aspects of development. My wife WANTS this resort to be smaller, more intimate and very cozy. So, that's what we'll do. If she wanted it big and grandiloquent, we'd do that. Again, it'll be her baby.

I, on the other hand, plan to develop a much larger resort greater in size and scope than Caliente ... specifically to show that we can have a very classy place ... without aggressively marketing to the swinger and adult-entertainment market. See why in the comment above. I am doing this solely to prove that it can be done. It's the kind of resort I myself want to go to. Who would really, really develop and do a resort of this kind RIGHT?

Donald Trump! You can say what you want about his ego. True enough. But! When it comes to building real estate to suit the top-of-the-market crowd, nobody does it better than Donald. I plan to follow his lead and do this one first-class all the way. More importantly, once it's built, you must run it in a first-class way, all the time, every day! THAT is the key! Lastly, at this proposed resort, I will not care about the male-to-female ratio at all. Not one bit. Anybody and everybody can come there as long as the conduct themselves well. All guys? So what. All gals. So what. Whoever shows up shows up. I'll balance the ratio with superb marketing and even better delivery of a great resort. Do THAT, and the ratio will balance itself. You'll see.

It will take years to do all of this. I have the know how. The development money is readily available if you know what you are doing. Caliente took many millions of dollars to build. Notice that Carl Anderson, Bill Baldwin and Chuck Foster did it! Carl Anderson had the balance sheet and development know how to get financed. Bill Baldwin had the architectural knowledge to design Caliente. Chuck Foster had the experience managing a major C.O. resort. The team had excellent complementary skills; hence, they got the financing. Assembling just such a team is what gets the money to do the deal. They did it. Hats off to them. Caliente is awesome. It's my favorite resort.

I've commented on this women's issues section specifically BECAUSE, in America, women are the key to getting naturist activity accepted by the general society. One MUST market to women, and, as I see it, nobody is doing that very well in our industry ... except for the couple who own Desert Shadows.

To know what women are thinking, one looks in the women's section ... because this is a public forum, after all. In Europe, especially in France and Germany, the mindset is completely different than it is here in the USA.

Over there, there is no need to market to women ... BECAUSE ... the whole mindset is far more open to naturist activity than it is here in America. If I were developing resorts in Europe, I would have no need whatsoever to look in the women's section and see what they are thinking.

Here in the USA, I do need to know that information, BECAUSE of the psychographic setting I'll be developing the resorts in. It's a linchpin issue most germane and apropos to being successful in this market. Hence, it is intelligence I must have in order to do a successful resort development. A good investment banker or venture capitalist would INSIST on this kind of information before they would invest a penny in the deal. THAT'S why I'm interested in this section.

In Europe, a developer must only do a good job of building and marketing a resort. Proof? See Le Cap d'Agde. Best naturist resort on Earth. Hail to the French! Well done!

Peace.

[Cheri]

Over the years, I've seen women wear shorts, bathing suit bottoms during those times of the month. I used to wear tampons and cut the string short; others told me they tucked in the string.

Cheri

[bluearrowil]

I usually use a tampon and cut the string very short. It works great for me:)