new member- miscellaneous advice querys

[eg03]

wouldnt it be weird if you go naked with your mom and her best friend, i've been to friends houses that are clothing optional and ive been nude around kids my own age also, and also what would i feel like if i get "excited" in front of my mom and her friend which would be quite embarassing, can somebody please give me advice on this.. thank you.

[eg03]

wouldnt it be weird if you go naked with your mom and her best friend, i've been to friends houses that are clothing optional and ive been nude around kids my own age also, and also what would i feel like if i get "excited" in front of my mom and her friend which would be quite embarassing, can somebody please give me advice on this.. thank you.

[Bob S.]

How did you feel when you were naked around your friends? Did you get excited? It is unlikely that you will get excited around your mother and her friend, although it may happen if you believe it will, a self-fulfilling prophesy.

I would say don't fret over what might happen. You know when you are going to start "the growth" and can always cover it or go into the water (cool water=shrinkage). But it probably won't happen.

Good luck.

Bob S.

[Gary Naturist]

When I was younger (into early 20s) and nude in the presence of thers, my penis would often become erect if I felt that someone else was looking at it -- an embarrassment reaction, definitely not sexual. Could be anyone -- male or female, family member or friend.

I doubt that I'm the only one to get an embarrassment erection. But I've never heard anyone else describe it in this way.

If you are worried about getting an erection when around your mom and her friend, mention this to her in advance. She'll likely say "Don't worry about it", and if she does .. don't worry about it.
The problem will subside after a period of time.

Gary

[PAnudist1431788]

I wouldn't worry about it, they've probably seen an erect penis before so its not anything new. If you get an erection, you get an erection. Cover it up if you need to. I also get embarrassment erections Gary Naturist.

[Trojan]

The first time it happened to me with women present was at a nude beach. Before I went there I knew it might happen and I planned to not cover up, but be discrete about it. So that's what I did and it was OK. I was laying on my towel and I rolled to one side so my erection wasn't sticking straight up. After about 15 minutes it subsided. To me it is always very exciting to get naked, alone and moreso in front of others. At the nude beach my penis starts to swell while I'm driving there. Often I have to sit in my car a few minutes and wait for it to go down. By the time I get undressed on the beach I have a "semi" and it pretty much stays that way for awhile, then finally goes down more. If it comes back I just stay quietly where I am until it goes away. To me it's very exciting when anyone sees my genitals hard or soft (especially any females except children) and I love to see others nude, so I expect to be excited and have learned how to deal with it. Once I'm at the beach for an hour or so it's not as intense and it's easier to control. I've learned that it is possible to feel very excited but not show more than a "semi". At a nude activity men are at a disadvantage because their excitement is so obvious. My pet peeve is women at a nude venue who complain about erections, because all the time I see women at the beach with rock hard nipples. I think the women who complain and get indignant are very excited themselves by seeing an erection. These women need help because they love to go nude, to see others nude, and to get excited by it while also having strong feelings that they are doing something that is very wrong. Their reaction is to condemn erections. I think it is wrong and offensive for a guy to flaunt a public erection or do something sexual like start to masturbate. I think he should be able to keep doing whatever he was doing before the erection appeared, without criticism or condemnation. His erection will subside soon by itself. Erections are normal, natural, and feel great. The man who gets one at the nude beach or wherever nude should be able to freely enjoy (discretely) a few minutes of sensuality unhampered by other people's hysteria and paranoia. My advicd to people who freak out over erections: Erections happen! Get over it!

[Rik]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Trojan:
... To me it is always very exciting to get naked, alone and moreso in front of others. At the nude beach my penis starts to swell while I'm driving there.... To me it's very exciting when anyone sees my genitals hard or soft (especially any females except children) and I love to see others nude, so I expect to be excited... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>As a self-confessed voyeur and exhibitionist do you not think you might be better off going to a strip club or a swinger's venue and leaving naturism to naturists?

[Bartamus]

Rik: Good point. After reading a few of
Trojans posts..it makes one wonder

[Nate Dekan]

Trojan,

Sigh, unfortionatly, I feel my earlier post in another section thanking you for your common since approach to erections was premature when I see statements like the following in your above post in this section.

"To me it is always very exciting to get naked, alone and moreso in front of others."

and

"To me it's very exciting when anyone sees my genitals hard or soft (especially any females except children) and I love to see others nude, so I expect to be excited and have learned how to deal with it."

What I was talking about is body acceptance, not sexual excitment, before I thought we were on the same line after seeing this, I don't think we are.

Sure we are sexual beings and the body can be sexually exciting nude or clothed, but I find it to be generally far more sexually exciting clothed (especially in most types of swim suits and some other types of clothes) and in a sexual context than I do when it is simply nude in a non-sexual context. Nudist clubs and beaches are non-sexual contexts and as such are not the place one should go looking for sexual excitement. If that is what you wan't please go somewhere else for that and learn to seperate simple nudity from sex, it's NOT the same thing.

Nate

[Trojan]

TO RIK, BARTAMUS, and NATE DEKAN:

Thank you for your responses to my posts. I realize that my comments sound "over the top" and I'd like to clarify them.

I've often heard nudists state that a nudist venue is a non-sexual context. I agree, and I do not go there for the purpose of seeking sexual arousal. It has never occurred to me to approach someone sexually in a nudist setting. That would be inappropriate and offensive. Also, I'm not interested in strip clubs, swinging, or any other kind of sleazy sex.

For me nudity and sexual excitement have always been intricately intertwined psychologically. To expose my nude body to the view of others and to see others nude generates sexual arousal. I can't explain it. It just happens. I don't try to make it happen, or go to a nude venue for that reason. But I expect that it probably will happen and I am prepared to deal with it appropriately. Most people would probably not be aware of my arousal level. I don't walk around with an erection, or get one anymore often than anyone else. I don't deny that I feel excited. I wouldn't feel honest doing that. But I don't broadcast it either. For me, it's just a normal component of the exhilarating experience of attending a nude venue.

I go to nudist venues for the purpose of nude socializing, and to be able to relax outside nude and free. For me, it's about self-acceptance. To be in a nude setting with other nude people and be accepted by them at face value (as I also accept them) is a powerful experience and deeply satisfying - a satisfaction I've never experienced any other way.

I've disclosed my thoughts and feelings on various forums here in an effort to be honest and straightforward and to divest myself of pretences like I divest myself of clothing. I guess I get overwrought at times reacting to what I see as society's supression of male sexuality.

Thanks for your feedback!

Trojan, I agree with you wholeheartedly. Anyone who says there is nothing whatsoever sexual about being nude with strangers is obviously either lying or dead both mentally and sexually.

I don't get aroused because I can't, but the only time I got an erection undressing in front of a woaman was on my wedding night. It was my first time. I never went to a nudist resort as a young man.

Like you I don't go to the nudist resort for sex or to get excited, since I can't do either. I go because, like you, I love being nude either alone or with other people. It's much more fun if there are other people. Be nude and have fun. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

[Rik]

Trojan,

Your honesty does you credit but your "clarification" confirms that, for you, naturism is sexually stimulating for you say:

"For me nudity and sexual excitement have always been intricately intertwined psychologically. To expose my nude body to the view of others and to see others nude generates sexual arousal."

The cornerstone of naturist philosophy is that the naked body is not, in itself, a sexual object. No-one can deny that there are occasions when the naked body /is a sexual object (even in a naturist setting) but that is closer to soft pornography than to naturism.

Whether pornography itself is wrong or harmful is another issue but natusists, and their representative organisations, go to great lengths to separate naturism from sexualisation of the body. There is, of course, much pornography masquerading as naturism and, sadly, some people use naturism as a pseudo-pornography and it seems that your reaction to nakedness falls into this category.

Sure, you can't help it, it's not sleazy, you're not being offensive, you're not looking for physical sexual encouters and it's probably not harming anyone BUT it's not naturism.

Rik

[Rik]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Nude always:
I don't get aroused because I can't....
Like you I don't go to the nudist resort for sex or to get excited, since I can't do either... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Your post worries me because it suggests that if you could get aroused then you would. If you could get sex at a nudist resort then you would. It's only your physical inability which stops you.

Surely I'm mistaken.

Rik

Rik, you're reading more into my message than was intended. Even when I was able to get aroused, I didn't get that way very often or very easily.

Even if I could get aroused, I am quite sure I wouldn't. Even if I was interested in sex, which I'm not, I wouldn't be going there for sex. You tend to misinterpret what I say. Is it because I don't explain myself well, or is there a language barrier? Just kidding so don't get offended.

Anyway, sex was something I had very little interest in even when I was young. That was one reason my marriage failed, besides having an adulterous wife that no one man could satisfy.

As I said, I go only for the purpose of enjoying being nude. I said what I said because of all the men talking about getting aroused. Whatever looking I may do is beside the point. It's not lustful looking. I just enjoy the beauty of God's greatest creation--the human body. /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

[Rik]

Nudealways,

Then I was mistaken - just as I thought /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Rik

[Nate Dekan]

Trojan,

Thank you for your clarification, and honesty.

I agree that the human body is sexual, so I understand that sexual excitement and the body (nude or clothed) are intricately intertwined. The callange I see is that for most (if not all people) inticing clothes are far more sexually exciting than simple nudity, YET, YET while many people may find sexual excitment at a textile beach (with lots of very sexually inticing clothing around) or swimming pool (and many may even go there for that reason) most people don't automatically first associate regular swimming pools with sex, (especially open or "free" sex, the way they've been programed to think with nudity) they first, most, and automatically associate swimming pools with swimming.

The problem is that despite how most people have been programed we know that nudity does not equal sex. People are just simply swimming at the swimming pool at the nudist club, they are not all over each other having sex! Nudity and sex are seperate and distinct, people can be nude together in mixed company and do tens of thousands (actually far more) of things that are completly non-sexual, and aren't even in the least sexually exciting. Yet, I think due to this societies programming most non-nudists wont get that nudity and sex are different and seperate issues unless a clear (and perhaps even exaggerated) distinction between them is maintianed by naturists.

In a society where none sexual nudity was very common place if someone said Nudity and sex are not the same" most people would probably respond with something like "No kidding!" in that same society if someone said that "sexual excitement and the body are intricately intertwined" they would probably again think "no kidding!"

Perhaps I'm wrong, but for me, even though it may be more "honest", in this society that does not clearly seperate nudity from sex (at all!) to see someone say "... To me it is always very exciting to get naked, alone and moreso in front of others. At the nude beach my penis starts to swell while I'm driving there.... To me it's very exciting when anyone sees my genitals hard or soft (especially any females except children) and I love to see others nude, so I expect to be excited..." seems to be counterproductive in trying to get the message out that nudity does not in fact equal sex, they are seperate issues.

Nate