Why don't more young adults try social nudity?

[Rex]

Article of that name on http://www.quercus-sys.com/home/naturism/nudity26.htm
Maybe some food for thought and comments.

[Rex]

Article of that name on http://www.quercus-sys.com/home/naturism/nudity26.htm
Maybe some food for thought and comments.

[greensunshine]

How bout this one,

The other day I was chatting with one of my customers (I work sales), and she said to me, it is really sad that those with the good looking bodies opt to cover them up, while the ones who have the bodies that need to improve them opt to take all of their clothes...and considering she said here home is near where one of the nudist beaches used to be in New York, I had to agree with her on that one...

Dr. Phil is right bout we need to do something about all the extra pounds we lugg around...anyone else following his book besides me???

Greensunshine in the Pacific NW /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Female, Mormon, and Proud of Both /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[leshrac]

from rex's link
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>-Young people, especially those who don't have an ongoing relationship, feel a higher degree of sexual tension that is stimulated by nudity <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Defintely. I'm not sure about the relationship part, but I think instinctively a naked female body will trigger something the back of my mind. I can look at nudists and appreciate their lifestyle for all its worth, but the still the caveman reproduction instinct is still strong. It's as if my mind is seperated from my penis'.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>-Students and young people in relatively low-paying jobs have little money to spend on travel and club fees. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Yep. I can dfinitely say that I can't pay for any kind of membership until college is done with. And going to pharmacy school won't make it any shorter a time.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>-Students with a heavy course load, and perhaps a part-time job, have little time for planned social events. Young people getting started in a career are expected to work long hours. There just isn't much time for a social life, especially one that is not part of "the beaten path" in mainstream society. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>There's too much studying and work to do to partake in any nudist activities. It's hard to do things with friends period, whether you performing a nudist activity or not.

As a young nudist, I can defintely relate to these points the most.

[Phill_G]

I think alot of young people, even those raised in naturist families, change thier attitudes towards nudity when they start pubity. a lot of young people are scared by the changes that happen to thier bodies and thus become ashamed of them. Also, teenagers place a lot of faith in the oppinion of thier piers which can put some off a naturist lifestyle. Unfourtunatly, we live in a world without inderviduality, its "follow the heard or live life as a reject." Those of us who stop caring realise how great a different way of life can be, but the rest who hold the oppinions of others higher than thier own become to ashamed or scared to accept nature.

remember: Those who care dont matter and those who matter dont care (Dr suess)

phew that was deep!

[nudeM]

Phill_G: Great response. You are correct in stating that the youths will keep within their peers as far as "physical" changes goes. But what if the kids were raised around nudists, lived in nudist communities and participated in nude youth activities? Would they still be ashamed of the "changes"?

Kids being raised as nudists at home and attend textile schools is a huge factor. A majority of the peers are not nudists, but in order to remain friends, the kids must get along when visiting and socializing with each other, which would mean, staying clothed for the most part.

Too bad there wasn't any nudist communities out there, where there are nudist homes, schools, shopping, etc. That would be the life. /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

[Empyrean]

I personaly believe that it is the way that we are brought up in this society with the way every one views nudism. Like if you look every where sex is every where and not just young people are misinformed that nudism is not a sex thing but we are constanly tought that being nude is through the media and our peers.

from what I have seen so far they are just affraid to try it because the think that they might be vied as a ***** or a slut or a pervert when in fact it has nothing to do with that, but that is what we have learnd right from the get go, but them some people do try it and they find out that it is actualy has nothing to do about sex.

[Cranialstrain]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Phill_G:
I think alot of young people, even those raised in naturist families, change thier attitudes towards nudity when they start pubity. a lot of young people are scared by the changes that happen to thier bodies and thus become ashamed of them. Also, teenagers place a lot of faith in the oppinion of thier piers which can put some off a naturist lifestyle. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I think you've hit the nail on the head there Phil. I'm in the relatively unusual situation where I grew up with a naturist father so I always knew nudity and naturism was nothing to be ashamed of. Despite this, even though I preferred being naked a lot of the time, I would be desperately embarrased if a member of my family walked in on me.

I think the fear of disapproval because you don't have confidence about your body is a key factor.

Ian @ gobare.com

[MikeJB]

We need to have some sort of nudist/naturist community where people can live and grow up in the nudist environment and go about their lives without being exposed to the textile world and their shame. I mean I know I wish we could have public nudity and im against us being segregated but the way our society is now its probably better to just have a nudist community where the textiles dont have to deal with us and our kids wouldnt have to deal with the textiles and their intolerance and misunderstandings about nudity and their misconceptions of sex and thus kids would grow up more open minded and more friendly. I just think that would be a nice thing for us to have where we could live our whole lifes nude if we wanted to and the society at large outside would never even have to see us naked.

[Kim Richards]

I certainly didn't change my attitude when I reached puberty. Why alot of kids seem to "change their attitude towards nudity" has more to do with how their time is spent when they get to junior high or high school. Also, kids don't like the structure of clubs where one has to do this or that. Kids go naked in the summer more than you think.

[MikeJB]

I didnt either...I have become more of a nudist now than I ever was back then. I think that it does have alot to do with what and who you are exposed to in Jr High and High school that determines weither you stay a nudist or not. I think if we could get rid of alot of the peer pressure in schools where kids make you feel like you gotta follow the crowd to feel like you belong then kids would feel better about nudity. If their friends would just support them instead of frowning upon them or trying to get them to follow stupid trends.

[Rex]

By the time a young person is in their mid-teens, they are old enough to understand that "giving in to peer pressure", is just another way of saying, "being gutless".
So, if you want to be known as one of the gutless ones, just blindly follow the crowd.

[Arnabas]

Several months ago (maybe as much as a year?) I read Ann Landers and there was a letter about nude slumber parties. A mother wrote in to ask about this, because her teen daughter had been invited to one. She thought it was wierd, but the mother of the girl hosting the part said they are "all the rage right now".

[Trailscout]

nudeM,

Just wondering if teens living near southern California's nude beaches find the affirmation they need to remain comfortable in their skin.

I met several girls in college who were either nudist or very carefree about nudity. One girl was really outspoken and wasted no opportunity to tell everyone on campus how great it was. I heard some people on campus say nudism is weird, but some of us admired her but were too chicken to try it ourselves.

[Naturist Mark]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Arnabas:
Several months ago (maybe as much as a year?) I read Ann Landers and there was a letter about nude slumber parties. A mother wrote in to ask about this, because her teen daughter had been invited to one. She thought it was wierd, but the mother of the girl hosting the part said they are "all the rage right now". <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Its a hoax. Story (http://www.newhousenews.com/archive/story2a051702.html)

Almost all of the major advice columnists have received letters like that. A person with a suspicious mind might think someone was attempting to incite anti-nudist sentiments.

Wouldn't it be something if the hoax sparks a real trend? Gotta be a healthy counter to body image unrealism taught by the popular media.

Interestingly Jeanne Phillips, the current author of the Ann Landers column (she is the daughter of Pauline Phillips, the original Ann), gave very different advice compared to the others: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> "as long as you trust the mother of these girls to supervise for the duration of the party, I see no harm in it."
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Jeanne has consistently been nudist friendly in her column. Perhaps I'll meet her at a c/o resort one of these days. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


-Mark

[Kim Richards]

I don't know anything about nude slumber parties 'all the rage now.' I would be curious to know WHERE it is all the rage. I would be lying if I said that I hadn't slept nude at other houses before, but usually when only girls or a mom was around. And usually just when it was hot in the summertime. Only a couple times when other family members were there. A rage? I doubt it.

[nudeM]

Trailscout: I live in the Central Valley, about 4 hours from the Southern California beaches. The nearest nude beach is 2 hours away (Pirate's Cove). Pirate's Cove is relatively easy to get to. The nudists who attend there are in their teens up to middle age. There have been times that it was standing room only. I have seen that only once, when it was a holiday weekend. Nudists from everywhere were there.

To answer your question, yea, I think living along the coast, near a nude beach, teens are more open with their bodies. They have a chance to shed their clothes around others who do the same. Also, living along the beach, clothing is more "revealing" than on the inland cities.

[Bob S.]

Just a correction, Eppie Lederer (spelling may be off) was the author of the Ann Landers column. She passed away last year and two of her writers have created a new column called Annie's Mailbox.

Jeanne Phillips is Dear Abby. She is the daughter of Pauline Phillips, the previous Abagail Van Buren (Dear Abby) who was the twin sister of Eppie Lederer. I don't recall if she just made that name up or if she took over for someone else. I do know that Eppie was the second Ann Landers.

Bob S.

[Naturist Mark]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bob S.:
Just a correction, Eppie Lederer (spelling may be off) was the author of the Ann Landers column.
...
Jeanne Phillips is Dear Abby. She is the daughter of Pauline Phillips, the previous Abagail Van Buren (Dear Abby) who was the twin sister of Eppie Lederer. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Right! I knew that... just got careless, they are so much alike! /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif I used to live in Sioux City, Iowa where the sisters grew up, even went to the same school (but not at the same time).

Abby (Jeanne) has been pro-nudist several times in her column. She has reassured a woman with a mastectomy who's husband wanted them to visit a nude beach, and has told critical writers that nude hot-tubbing is OK, and that nudists are decent people. (Sorry no links, the company that syndicates the columns has all the old links timed out.)

-Mark