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Mosquito_Bait
02-27-2006, 03:55 PM
There are anecdotes of John Quincy Adams skinny-dipping in the Potomac. Both John F. Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson are reputed to have preferred to use the White House pool in the buff. Now, my wife shows me the current issue of "More" magazine, which states the following about Al and Tipper Gore:

"They went skinny-dipping by moonlight in beautiful bays in the Greek Islands, during a lengthy 2001 vacation."

It's too bad that this wasn't known about Al Gore prior to the 2000 presidential election. Being known as a skinny-dipper might have yielded the additional votes that he needed in Florida.

Mosquito_Bait
02-27-2006, 03:55 PM
There are anecdotes of John Quincy Adams skinny-dipping in the Potomac. Both John F. Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson are reputed to have preferred to use the White House pool in the buff. Now, my wife shows me the current issue of "More" magazine, which states the following about Al and Tipper Gore:

"They went skinny-dipping by moonlight in beautiful bays in the Greek Islands, during a lengthy 2001 vacation."

It's too bad that this wasn't known about Al Gore prior to the 2000 presidential election. Being known as a skinny-dipper might have yielded the additional votes that he needed in Florida.

joeaguy
02-27-2006, 04:52 PM
Thats a bit surprised considering all the censorship issues Tipper Gore was involved in, like the explicit lyrics labels for music. Although I've noticed that after that election they've both loosened up a lot. Maybe finding naturism was part of that.

Naturist Mark
02-27-2006, 06:31 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by joeaguy:
Thats a bit surprised considering all the censorship issues Tipper Gore was involved in, like the explicit lyrics labels for music. Although I've noticed that after that election they've both loosened up a lot. Maybe finding naturism was part of that. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Actually Tipper got a bit of bum rap on that. She was for voluntary parental labels, she broke with the group when it started to push for legal censorship. You may recall Frank Zappa was a vigorous opponent of the PMRC, and got to know Tipper while arguing on the opposite side of the issue. Turned out Tipper was a fan, and they formed a friendship. Tipper (a drummer) even performed on an album by Zappa's daughter.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Now Zappa--who died in 1993--has been cast by the media as Tipper's adversary in an eternal celebrity stand-off ... newspaper after newspaper has reported how Zappa once labeled Tipper a "cultural terrorist," the sound bite that came to define their rivalry. The wrinkle is this: Since the 1980s, the Zappa and Gore families have become close. Zappa's widow Gail, who now runs her husband's company Intercontinental Absurdities, describes the Gore-Zappa relationship as "enthralling. A mutual admiration society." She says any antagonism has long been overstated. Even during the 1985 Senate hearings, a cross-examining Tennessee senator named Al Gore told Zappa, "I respect you as a true original and as a tremendously talented musician."

Today, Gail Zappa is a fervent Gore supporter and a top Democratic Party donor; she was a California delegate to the Democratic national convention in August. And she says she's tired of media misrepresentation. "I don't believe for an instant, nor did Frank believe for an instant, that Tipper Gore was actually for censorship," she says. "Now that he's dead, it's really disgusting to me that the media still uses Frank Zappa against Tipper Gore." As for the endlessly repeated "cultural terrorist" quotation, she says, "I do object to, in the name of fair journalism, misappropriating statements made by Frank and using them inaccurately against friends of mine, thank you very much." </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

-Mark

nacktman
02-27-2006, 06:58 PM
In truth quite a few of our presidents where Skinny Dippers.

Washington, Adams 1, Jefferson, Monroe, Madison, Adams 2, Jackson, Tyler, Taylor, Polk, (mainly from societal norms ... "bathing costumes" where a Victorian Era "invention")
Roosevelt, Taft, Coolidge, Roosevelt, Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Carter, Ford, Reagan, Bush 1, Clinton

Those presidents known as skinny dippers to history are Adams 2, Kennedy and Johnson, but all presidents up to this point in time grew up when skinny dipping was a normal summertime activity in the USA. It has only been within the last 30 years that it has really died off and more rapidly in the last 15 of those years.

luvnaturism
02-27-2006, 07:26 PM
Probably the first female reporter in the US was Anne Royall, who was considered to be quite scandalous for doing work that had been exclusively reserved for men.

When President John Quincy Adams refused to grant her an interview, she went down to the Potomac River where he skinnydipped just about every day. She proceeded to sit on his clothes and wouldn't budge until he allowed her to interview him.

President Theodore Roosevelt's skinnydipping habits were somewhat dreaded by his associates. He loved to swim and climb rocks nude on chilly days, and whoever he invited to go with him could hardly avoid doing the same.

But, as has been said before, no one thought anything of it (other than that it was odd to swim in cold weather) because that's how people swam in those days.

KetchumMaine
02-27-2006, 09:32 PM
Before the election, wasn't there someone on her ranting & raving about how voting for Gore would shut down nudism???